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 by: geoff - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:18 UTC

On 14/03/2022 9:54 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
>>>>>>>>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
>>>>>>>> Of course you know this from experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
>>>>>>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
>>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
>>>>>> No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
>>>>>> Pleased for you.
>>>>>> I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
>>>>>> it has an acoustic bass.
>>>>>> If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
>>>>>> upright and it's not
>>>>>> fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
>>>>>> instrument.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
>>>> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
>>>>
>>>> But what would they all know.
>>>>
>>>> Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with
>>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
>>>> slap bass sound.
>>>>
>>>> And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>> That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
>> https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
>>
>> Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
> What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
>
>

Silicone rubber. Sound is fun and usable at a pinch, but hard to play
very accurately in tune - due to the short fretboard.

geoff

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 by: RJKe...@yahoo.com - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 18:29 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:19:09 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 14/03/2022 9:54 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> >>>> On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> >>>>>> On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
> >>>>>>>>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
> >>>>>>>> Of course you know this from experience.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
> >>>>>>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
> >>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
> >>>>>> No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
> >>>>>> Pleased for you.
> >>>>>> I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
> >>>>>> it has an acoustic bass.
> >>>>>> If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
> >>>>>> upright and it's not
> >>>>>> fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
> >>>>>> instrument.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
> >>>> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
> >>>>
> >>>> But what would they all know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with
> >>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
> >>>> slap bass sound.
> >>>>
> >>>> And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
> >>>>
> >>>> geoff
> >>> That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
> >> https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
> >>
> >> Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
> > What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
> >
> >
> Silicone rubber. Sound is fun and usable at a pinch, but hard to play
> very accurately in tune - due to the short fretboard.
>
> geoff

How much are they?

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 by: geoff - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 21:20 UTC

On 16/03/2022 7:29 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:19:09 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>> On 14/03/2022 9:54 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:03:00 AM UTC-4, dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 3:42:03 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 7:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:52:37 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 5:11 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:36:19 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2022 2:23 pm, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But there is no reason why an upright acoustic bass part can't be played
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a fretless electric bass guitar (which could sound nearly identical),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're out of your fucking mind if you think that there's no difference in how and acoustic bass sounds and how ANY kind of electric bass sounds playing the same piece. It's not even close to sounding the same.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course you know this from experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A fretless electric bass, especially with muted strings, can sound not
>>>>>>>>>> too far off, if imitation is your criteria.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But why should it have to in the first place ? Not everybody is so
>>>>>>>>>> anally-retentive about the minutiae of sound.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't see the difference between acoustic and electric bass as anywhere close to minutiae. Do you also think that the difference between acoustic and electric guitar is minutiae?
>>>>>>>> No, but obsessing over whether or not it is significant is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can ALWAYS tell instantly when a recording has electric or acoustic bass, and for me, acoustic is ALWAYS better except for funk recordings.
>>>>>>>> Pleased for you.
>>>>>>>> I actually like this below almost as much as the Beatles version because
>>>>>>>> it has an acoustic bass.
>>>>>>>> If you want to split hairs then I have an acoustic bass. And it's not
>>>>>>>> upright and it's not
>>>>>>>> fretless.https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ysf9fppdytbjtl/Ibanez%20Talman%20acoustic%20bass%20w.pickup.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KOwvPgu4Y
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's OK. No better or worse than any other bass line just because of the
>>>>>>>> instrument.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We get it. You get a stiffy almost exclusively for upright basses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have a COMPLETELY different sound than an electric bass, and I'm sure vastly different than your guitar shaped acoustic. A must for rockabilly and jazz. You can't get this kind of sound from anything but an upright acoustic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi5Tq3XDRI
>>>>>> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=https%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.app%2F%3Fq%3Dfretless%2Belectric%2Bbass%2Bupright%2Bsound&iie=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But what would they all know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I can do better on by fretless Ibanez than any of these - with
>>>>>> muting, scooped EQ and a sharper picking angle I can even get a good
>>>>>> slap bass sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there is the Ashbory which is pretty much an exact upright sound.
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t33mxAKVj4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geoff
>>>>> That thing sounds amazing. I never even tried one -- to my shame.
>>>> https://youtu.be/2CmnKprLoAs
>>>>
>>>> Now, that's how you minimally maximize your rhythm section, baby!!
>>> What are the Ashbory's strings made from?
>>>
>>>
>> Silicone rubber. Sound is fun and usable at a pinch, but hard to play
>> very accurately in tune - due to the short fretboard.
>>
>> geoff
>
> How much are they?

http://www.ashelec.demon.co.uk/ashbory/

https://www.basscentre.com/bass-centre-ashbory-bass.html

Used ones on Reverb.com
https://reverb.com/item/21186041-fender-ashbory-bass

geoff

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 7:02:10 AM UTC-8, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

Caroline is now tackling conspiracy theories, including "Elvis is Alive" and "Paul is Dead." She's not a Richard Dawkins or a Frederick Crews, but she's got some some sense and makes a reasonable case for the truth.

She asked people for suggestions on which conspiracy she ought to consider next, and I suggested Q-Anon. Which is funny, because shortly after giving her that reply, I read the Sunday Boston Globe and found an article titled "Welcome to the Beatles-verse."


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