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Re: Complete Wolf Lieder on Stone Records

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On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:26:45 AM UTC-8, Mandryka wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:38:20 PM UTC, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:12:42 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:08:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:03:26 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:25:13 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:19:38 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 12:37:49 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die..............................................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh-uh.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > > > > > > > > > > > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> > > > > > > > > > > I think that she was the first to record that lied.
> > > > > > > > > > Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?).
> > > > > > > > > In the complete Wolf on Stone records they give the song to a tenor, I don’t have the booklet so I can’t say why.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Spotify I can see early recordings by Emmi Leisner (with Raucheisen), and a rather nice one from Elizabeth Rethberg.
> > > > > > > > I would have thought that Leisner's recording would have been included in the following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound
> > > > > > > But it is included in this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://boxset.me/michael-raucheisen-man-at-the-piano-66-cd-box-set-ape/
> > > > > > Concerning that box set, it also includes Maria Muller's recording of Pfitzner's VENUS MATER. To hear a sample of the beginning:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://s.awa.fm/track/17ebb05ae50548b71703
> > > > > Here's the whole song
> > > > >
> > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/3AClUT7PFOfmbSKb2fL8Gp?si=3e255a295fd043f9
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > What did you think of it?
> > > That's the first time I've listened to songs by Pfitzner...
> >
> > (Y. upload):
> >
> > "Clara Ebers " Vier Lieder" Hans Pfitzner"
> Listening now, thanks, very moving music -- Wagner and Strauss vibes. I've been enjoying Dietschy's Debussy, by the way.

"Pfitzner: 5 Lieder, Op. 9 - 5. Abschied":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWX2zKB66QA

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 by: Mandryka - Tue, 13 Dec 2022 17:45 UTC

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 7:49:29 AM UTC, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:26:45 AM UTC-8, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:38:20 PM UTC, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:12:42 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:08:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:03:26 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:25:13 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:19:38 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 12:37:49 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die..............................................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh-uh.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think that she was the first to record that lied.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?).
> > > > > > > > > > In the complete Wolf on Stone records they give the song to a tenor, I don’t have the booklet so I can’t say why.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Spotify I can see early recordings by Emmi Leisner (with Raucheisen), and a rather nice one from Elizabeth Rethberg.
> > > > > > > > > I would have thought that Leisner's recording would have been included in the following:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound
> > > > > > > > But it is included in this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://boxset.me/michael-raucheisen-man-at-the-piano-66-cd-box-set-ape/
> > > > > > > Concerning that box set, it also includes Maria Muller's recording of Pfitzner's VENUS MATER. To hear a sample of the beginning:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://s.awa.fm/track/17ebb05ae50548b71703
> > > > > > Here's the whole song
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/3AClUT7PFOfmbSKb2fL8Gp?si=3e255a295fd043f9
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > What did you think of it?
> > > > That's the first time I've listened to songs by Pfitzner...
> > >
> > > (Y. upload):
> > >
> > > "Clara Ebers " Vier Lieder" Hans Pfitzner"
> > Listening now, thanks, very moving music -- Wagner and Strauss vibes. I've been enjoying Dietschy's Debussy, by the way.
> "Pfitzner: 5 Lieder, Op. 9 - 5. Abschied":
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWX2zKB66QA

8 Gs - what do you think of Killmayer’s songs? (Really enjoying Pregardien singing the Eichendorff Lieder)

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Subject: Re: Complete Wolf Lieder on Stone Records
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 by: gggg gggg - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 05:55 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:12:42 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:08:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:03:26 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:25:13 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:19:38 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 12:37:49 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Uh-uh.
> > > > > > > > > > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > > > > > > > > > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> > > > > > > > > I think that she was the first to record that lied.
> > > > > > > > Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?).
> > > > > > > In the complete Wolf on Stone records they give the song to a tenor, I don’t have the booklet so I can’t say why.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Spotify I can see early recordings by Emmi Leisner (with Raucheisen), and a rather nice one from Elizabeth Rethberg.
> > > > > > I would have thought that Leisner's recording would have been included in the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound
> > > > > But it is included in this:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://boxset.me/michael-raucheisen-man-at-the-piano-66-cd-box-set-ape/
> > > > Concerning that box set, it also includes Maria Muller's recording of Pfitzner's VENUS MATER. To hear a sample of the beginning:
> > > >
> > > > https://s.awa.fm/track/17ebb05ae50548b71703
> > > Here's the whole song
> > >
> > > https://open.spotify.com/track/3AClUT7PFOfmbSKb2fL8Gp?si=3e255a295fd043f9
> > Thank you.
> >
> > What did you think of it?
> That's the first time I've listened to songs by Pfitzner. Love Margaret Mueller's claret velvet voice, and even more, I like the way she makes the poetry sound meaningful. Raucheisen seems to be inspired too, some very expressive piano playing there, especially at the end.
>
> Thanks for the prompt to listen to it, much appreciated.

Erna Berger also recorded "Venus Mater" but I felt that her coloratura voice was not well suited that lied.

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 by: gggg gggg - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 06:46 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:12:42 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:08:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:03:26 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:25:13 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:19:38 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 12:37:49 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Uh-uh.
> > > > > > > > > > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > > > > > > > > > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> > > > > > > > > I think that she was the first to record that lied.
> > > > > > > > Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?).
> > > > > > > In the complete Wolf on Stone records they give the song to a tenor, I don’t have the booklet so I can’t say why.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Spotify I can see early recordings by Emmi Leisner (with Raucheisen), and a rather nice one from Elizabeth Rethberg.
> > > > > > I would have thought that Leisner's recording would have been included in the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound
> > > > > But it is included in this:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://boxset.me/michael-raucheisen-man-at-the-piano-66-cd-box-set-ape/
> > > > Concerning that box set, it also includes Maria Muller's recording of Pfitzner's VENUS MATER. To hear a sample of the beginning:
> > > >
> > > > https://s.awa.fm/track/17ebb05ae50548b71703
> > > Here's the whole song
> > >
> > > https://open.spotify.com/track/3AClUT7PFOfmbSKb2fL8Gp?si=3e255a295fd043f9
> > Thank you.
> >
> > What did you think of it?
> That's the first time I've listened to songs by Pfitzner. Love Margaret Mueller's claret velvet voice, and even more, I like the way she makes the poetry sound meaningful. Raucheisen seems to be inspired too, some very expressive piano playing there, especially at the end.
>
> Thanks for the prompt to listen to it, much appreciated.

Erna Berger also recorded "Venus Mater" but I felt that her coloratura voice was not well suited to that lied.

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Subject: Re: Complete Wolf Lieder on Stone Records
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 by: Mandryka - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:08 UTC

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:46:50 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:12:42 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:08:06 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:03:26 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:25:13 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:19:38 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 12:37:49 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die..............................................
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh-uh.
> > > > > > > > > > > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > > > > > > > > > > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing.. It's here
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> > > > > > > > > > I think that she was the first to record that lied.
> > > > > > > > > Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?).
> > > > > > > > In the complete Wolf on Stone records they give the song to a tenor, I don’t have the booklet so I can’t say why.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Spotify I can see early recordings by Emmi Leisner (with Raucheisen), and a rather nice one from Elizabeth Rethberg.
> > > > > > > I would have thought that Leisner's recording would have been included in the following:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound
> > > > > > But it is included in this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://boxset.me/michael-raucheisen-man-at-the-piano-66-cd-box-set-ape/
> > > > > Concerning that box set, it also includes Maria Muller's recording of Pfitzner's VENUS MATER. To hear a sample of the beginning:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://s.awa.fm/track/17ebb05ae50548b71703
> > > > Here's the whole song
> > > >
> > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/3AClUT7PFOfmbSKb2fL8Gp?si=3e255a295fd043f9
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > What did you think of it?
> > That's the first time I've listened to songs by Pfitzner. Love Margaret Mueller's claret velvet voice, and even more, I like the way she makes the poetry sound meaningful. Raucheisen seems to be inspired too, some very expressive piano playing there, especially at the end.
> >
> > Thanks for the prompt to listen to it, much appreciated.
> Erna Berger also recorded "Venus Mater" but I felt that her coloratura voice was not well suited to that lied.

Any recommendations for the Michelangelo lieder?

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 by: Notsure01 - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:30 UTC

For the Michelangelo lieder I like Kim Borg:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8652255--kim-borg-essentials

Not someone I think of as a lieder singer, but this version combines his
beautiful voice along with good attention to the text. I also have a
Hotter version from Decca with Werba, but he sounds particularly
gravelly and hoarse.

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 by: Notsure01 - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:51 UTC

On 11/16/23 3:30 PM, Notsure01 wrote:
> For the Michelangelo lieder I like Kim Borg:
> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8652255--kim-borg-essentials
>
> Not someone I think of as a lieder singer, but this version combines his
> beautiful voice along with good attention to the text. I also have a
> Hotter version from Decca with Werba, but he sounds particularly
> gravelly and hoarse.

The Borg performances are on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_bvt82H13g&list=OLAK5uy_kOs0sAjrdY1hUCXw_Q3EkUaNyoFOXv6Jw&index=6

(And I just checked - the Hotter version I have is with Parsons)

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 by: Mandryka - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 11:33 UTC

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 8:51:52 PM UTC, Notsure01 wrote:
> On 11/16/23 3:30 PM, Notsure01 wrote:
> > For the Michelangelo lieder I like Kim Borg:
> > https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8652255--kim-borg-essentials
> >
> > Not someone I think of as a lieder singer, but this version combines his
> > beautiful voice along with good attention to the text. I also have a
> > Hotter version from Decca with Werba, but he sounds particularly
> > gravelly and hoarse.
> The Borg performances are on Youtube:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_bvt82H13g&list=OLAK5uy_kOs0sAjrdY1hUCXw_Q3EkUaNyoFOXv6Jw&index=6
>
> (And I just checked - the Hotter version I have is with Parsons)

Yes he's good. Thanks.

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