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 by: BTR1701 - Thu, 15 Sep 2022 19:44 UTC

Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris

KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."

Except:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14

ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
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 by: moviePig - Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:23 UTC

On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>
> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>
> Except:
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>
> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
> illegally."

An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...

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 by: BTR1701 - Thu, 15 Sep 2022 21:59 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>
>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>
>> Except:
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>
>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>> illegally."
>
> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...

Yeah, he's lying about being an illegal.

<rolls eyes>

You actually believe Kamala that border is secure? Really?

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 by: kensi - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 03:20 UTC

On 2022-09-15 3:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. -
Donald Trump

https://time.com/5347737/trump-quote-george-orwell-vfw-speech/

Doesn't look like yours is any better. At least Harris is not (to my
knowledge) a genocidal madman bent on world domination, or in the hip
pocket of one.

--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 09:02 UTC

On 9/15/2022 2:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>
> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>
> Except:
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>
> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
> illegally."

Is she "gaslighting" or just tired of calling out red states for doing
such a shit job?

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 09:19 UTC

On 9/15/2022 3:23 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>
>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>
>> Except:
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>
>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>> illegally."
>
> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...

I wonder if it was Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro. Or Joe Rogaine. Or any
other of the cavalcade of right wing fucks.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 09:52 UTC

On 9/15/2022 4:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
> Yeah, he's lying about being an illegal.
>
> <rolls eyes>
>
> You actually believe Kamala that border is secure? Really?

Oh yeah, right wing assholes wouldn't dream of staging such a thing. In
my opinion, since you like so much, it has to be assumed you're lying
every time unless you have proof otherwise. But please, throw a tantrum
like a child, it's entertaining as fuck.

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In article <qRLUK.203709$PRW4.55328@fx11.iad>, pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>
>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>
>> Except:
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4
>>
>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>> illegally."
>
> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...

No need to kill the messenger, dude.

Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: Ubiquitous - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 08:30 UTC

kkensington01-NOSPAM@gmail.invalid wrote:

>Doesn't look like yours [Trump] is any better. At least Harris is not (to
>my knowledge) a genocidal madman bent on world domination, or in the hip
>pocket of one.

TROLL-O-METER
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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:33 UTC

On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>
>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>
>> Except:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>
>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>> illegally."
>
> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...

This is brutal.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14

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 by: Ed Stasiak - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:43 UTC

> BTR1701
>
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>
> "to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm..."

Is this chick an official Biden spokesperson or did they just
round up some random secretary and tell her to go out there
and answer questions?

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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:48 UTC

On Sep 16, 2022 at 12:43:30 PM PDT, "Ed Stasiak" <edstasiak1067@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> BTR1701
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>>
>> "to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm..."
>
> Is this chick an official Biden spokesperson or did they just
> round up some random secretary and tell her to go out there
> and answer questions?

She's *the* official Biden spokeshole now that Circle Back Psaki has jumped
over the line and is working for NBC now.

She's also a blatant diversity hire, since the day her promotion was
announced, the White House listed her qualifications for the job as: black,
female, lesbian.

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:52 UTC

On 9/16/2022 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
> This is brutal.
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14

Do you see this one?

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 by: moviePig - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:57 UTC

On 9/16/2022 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
> This is brutal.
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14

Yes, she didn't back up Harris's claim. That would require a meaningful
definition of 'secure', which neither side wants to spell out.

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:33:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
>This is brutal.
>
>
>https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>

It's as if she's a wooden headed dummy and Kamala Harris is throwing her
voice.

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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 21:01 UTC

moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On 9/16/2022 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>>
>>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>>
>>>> Except:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>>
>>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>>> illegally."
>>>
>>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>>
>> This is brutal.
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>
> Do you see this one?

Yep.

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 by: Rhino - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 21:13 UTC

On 2022-09-16 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
> This is brutal.
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>
>
The feds expel people at the border?? Really?? Name one!

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 22:15 UTC

On 9/16/2022 2:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>
>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>
>>> Except:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>> illegally."
>>
>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>
> This is brutal.
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14

Wow, the Oath Keepers sure are supplyin' you with a lot of stuff.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 22:15 UTC

On 9/16/2022 2:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2022 at 12:43:30 PM PDT, "Ed Stasiak" <edstasiak1067@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> BTR1701
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> "to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm..."
>>
>> Is this chick an official Biden spokesperson or did they just
>> round up some random secretary and tell her to go out there
>> and answer questions?
>
> She's *the* official Biden spokeshole now that Circle Back Psaki has jumped
> over the line and is working for NBC now.
>
> She's also a blatant diversity hire, since the day her promotion was
> announced, the White House listed her qualifications for the job as: black,
> female, lesbian.

Excellent sockpuppeteering.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Sep 2022 22:17 UTC

On 9/16/2022 3:13 PM, EGK wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:33:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>>
>>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>>
>>>> Except:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>>
>>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>>> illegally."
>>>
>>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>>
>> This is brutal.
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>>
>
> It's as if she's a wooden headed dummy and Kamala Harris is throwing her
> voice.

So she reminds you of your mother?

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 by: TomBen...@agent.com - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:40 UTC

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 15:57:33 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>On 9/16/2022 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 15, 2022 at 1:23:50 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/15/2022 3:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> Don't believe your eyes, believe what I say. - Kamala Harris
>>>>
>>>> KAMALA (just days ago): "The border is secure."
>>>>
>>>> Except:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1570395563908124673/vid/720x406/UHnt5iObM7IksvPv.mp4?tag=14
>>>>
>>>> ILLEGAL ALIEN: "The border is open. The border is open because we entered
>>>> illegally."
>>>
>>> An undated FoxNews interview with someone in a mask sure convinces me...
>>
>> This is brutal.
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>
>Yes, she didn't back up Harris's claim. That would require a meaningful
>definition of 'secure', which neither side wants to spell out.

So words in politics have no meaning? Whodathunkit?

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 by: Ubiquitous - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 21:21 UTC

atropos@mac.com wrote:

> This is brutal.
> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14

Not surprisingly, that's what happens when you hire someone for wokeness points instead of their competence.

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 by: Ubiquitous - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 21:23 UTC

pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 9/16/2022 3:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>> This is brutal.
>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>
>Do you see this one?

Yes, I was able to view the vidclip.

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 by: Ubiquitous - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 21:25 UTC

atropos@mac.com wrote:
> "Ed Stasiak" <edstasiak1067@gmail.com>wrote:
>> BTR1701

>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1570479661628407815/pu/vid/720x406/X3ivOnKx7lQK6PD9.mp4?tag=14
>>>
>>> "to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm… to make sure… umm..."
>>
>> Is this chick an official Biden spokesperson or did they just
>> round up some random secretary and tell her to go out there
>> and answer questions?
>
>She's *the* official Biden spokeshole now that Circle Back Psaki has jumped
>over the line and is working for NBC now.
>
>She's also a blatant diversity hire, since the day her promotion was
>announced, the White House listed her qualifications for the job as: black,
>female, lesbian.

That's what happens when you hire someoen based on their characteristics
instead of their competence.

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Let's go Brandon!

Re: More Outright Gaslighting from the VP

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 by: kensi - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 03:29 UTC

On 2022-09-16 4:30 a.m., Ubiquitous drooled:
> kkensington01-NOSPAM@gmail.invalid wrote:
>> Doesn't look like yours [Trump] is any better. At least Harris is not (to
>> my knowledge) a genocidal madman bent on world domination, or in the hip
>> pocket of one.
>
> TROLL-O-METER
>
> 5* 6* *7
> 4* *8
> 3* *9
> 2* *10
> 1* | *stuporous
> 0* -*- *catatonic
> * |\ *comatose
> * \ *clinical death
> * \ *biological death
> * _\/ *demonic apparition
> * * *damned for all eternity

Nonresponse noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

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the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
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in here." ~Checkmate

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