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Re: Sarah McLachlan -- Hallelujah

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Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan -- Hallelujah
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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 04:02 UTC

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >> >> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> >> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> >> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> >> >> version.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> >> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >> >> (mystic page)
> >> >> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> >> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T..
> >> >> Tikaram)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >> >> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> >>
> >> > You seem confused, again, George. ME is addressing General Stink, regarding his name of choice.
> >>
> >> > Michael Pendragon
> >> You're the confused one, Pendragon, since ME is obviously responding to David Dalton, not Zod.
>
> > STINK: As your moniker is a tribute to the great Doctor Who, yes...?
> > ME: This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>
> > AFAIK, ME doesn't know the Doctor or the Dalton any more than I do. Why would she ask either of them if something hasn't worked out well?
> Pen, you are not even quoting from ME's post here...!
>
> Here is her post, with link:
>
> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=176838&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#176838
>
>
> ************************************************************
> ME wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)
>
>
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> *************************************************************
>
> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=176838&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#176838
>
> Get it yet, Pen..?

No.

I did, however, get an email from ME.

She confirms that she had been responding to your post.

Got that, Stink?

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 04:11 UTC

Whatever ME claims, she responded to David Dalton TWICE, not to Zod:

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

> > > Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > version.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >
> > > (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >
> > > Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > > will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> Duuuhhh…..

Zod isn't even in this part of the thread.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 04:15 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:11:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Whatever ME claims, she responded to David Dalton TWICE, not to Zod:
>
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
> > > > Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > > Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > > it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > > version.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > > >
> > > > (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > > >
> > > > Also the song is only partly religious.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > > "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > > > will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)
> > > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> > Duuuhhh…..
>
> Zod isn't even in this part of the thread.

This is how the exchange was intended:

STINK: As your moniker is a tribute to the great Doctor Who, yes...?
ME: This has not worked out well for you, has it?

She is referring to the fact that few of us here refer to him as "General Zod."

Get it?

Michael Pendragon
"I know an obsessed teollisuuden Wien I see one."
-- Will Dockery, dry drunk.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 04:26 UTC

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:

At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.

No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.

> > > Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > version.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >
> > > (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >
> > > Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > > will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> Duuuhhh…..

Response to David Dalton, not Zod ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 05:38 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:26:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.
>
> No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.

Maybe she did... maybe it was a Nova BS glitch.

But her response was obviously directed to General Stink, and your feigned confusion was every bit as disingenuous as George's claim that he'd no idea who "General Stink" is.

Michael Pendragon
"Anyone with any sense can see that, thusly...."
-- George "Stink" Sulzbach, unsuccessfully attempting to sound literate

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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:26:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
>> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
>> At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.
>>
>> No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.

> Maybe she did... maybe it was a Nova BS glitch.

No, I've been quoting from Google Groups, and her response was made /twice/ to David Dalton, not Zod.

Take a moment and look for yourself, Pendragon.

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No, I'm posting from Google Groups, Pendragon, and there's no glitch, either ME made a mistake and replied twice to David Dalton by accident, or she intended to reply to him, for whatever reason.

Here's the link to her second post to David Dalton, so you can see for yourself:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/RpPvIK9b-4I/m/bikzleRAEwAJ

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > > Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > version.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >
> > > (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >
> > > Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > > will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T. Tikaram)
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> Duuuhhh…..

Link to the original post:

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:41 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:22:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:26:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >
> >> At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.
> >>
> >> No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
>
> > Maybe she did... maybe it was a Nova BS glitch.
> No, I've been quoting from Google Groups, and her response was made /twice/ to David Dalton, not Zod.
>
> Take a moment and look for yourself, Pendragon.

Like I've said, I often have to deleted the headers in responses to you and your Stink.

Whatever. The point is that ME has confirmed that she was responding to Stink.

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 by: NancyGene - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:27 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 4:41:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:22:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:26:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > >> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > >> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > >
> > >> At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.
> > >>
> > >> No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
> >
> > > Maybe she did... maybe it was a Nova BS glitch.
> > No, I've been quoting from Google Groups, and her response was made /twice/ to David Dalton, not Zod.
> >
> > Take a moment and look for yourself, Pendragon.
> Like I've said, I often have to deleted the headers in responses to you and your Stink.
>
> Whatever. The point is that ME has confirmed that she was responding to Stink.

Isn't the author of a piece the ultimate authority on the meaning of the piece?

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On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
>> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
>> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
>>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
>>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
page)
>>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
>>>> (mystic page)
>>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king
>> - he
>>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
>>>> Tikaram)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll?
>> The song?
>>>
>>> You seem confused, again, George. ME is addressing General Stink,
>> regarding his name of choice.
>>>
>>> Michael Pendragon
>> As the thread shows, Michael, the MEatpuppet was replying to Prof.
>> Dalton. Why are you calling Prof. Dalton "General Stink"?
>
> The thread shows that she was replying to "General Stink."
No, Michael, that's not true, and anyone who can and will read knows
it's not true. The thread shows that the MEatpuppet was replying to the
OP, "David Dalton." All anyone has to do is scroll up to read it:

<quote>
On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
>> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
>> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
</quote>

Now please stop lying about that.

>
> And you know very well who General Stink is.
>
I think we all know whom you and your MEatpuppet like to call "General
Stink." What we don't know is why you'd think he wrote the OP and used
David Dalton as his "name of choice" for it; or why you'd say it if you
didn't think it.

> What could you possibly hope to accomplish by playing stupid, George?
>

I love how, when you're caught in a lie, you reach for the insults.

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:31 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

ME responded to David Dalton twice, which seems to indicate that she was posting to him, just as she called Mack a "mother fucker" last week.

Apparently Pendragon will continue to try to explain it, but the fact is obvious.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:46 UTC

On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Rachel wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> >version.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >> >
> >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >> >
> >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> >> >
> >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> >> >--
> >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
(mystic page)
> >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
king - he
> >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
Tikaram)
> >> >
> >> --
> >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
AntiChrist rising!
> >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
https://mindspring.com
>
> > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
>
> > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> Hello there, Rachel.
>
> I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
Senetto will think he's a "plant".

I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
"plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't realize it, got
the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:27 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Rachel wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >> >version.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >> >
> > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >> >
> > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >> >
> > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > >> >--
> > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> king - he
> > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> > >> >
> > >> --
> > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> AntiChrist rising!
> > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> https://mindspring.com
> >
> > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> >
> > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > Hello there, Rachel.
> >
> > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> Senetto will think he's a "plant".

> I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't realize it, got
> the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.

Yes indeed quite obviously a cover up attempt from pen, as MY NAME was nowhere in that part of the discussion...!

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:31 UTC

On 2022-10-25 1:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Rachel wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >> >version.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >> >
> > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >> >
> > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >> >
> > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > >> >--
> > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> page)
> > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> king - he
> > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> > >> >
> > >> --
> > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> AntiChrist rising!
> > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> https://mindspring.com
> >
> > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> >
> > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > Hello there, Rachel.
> >
> > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> Senetto will think he's a "plant".
>
>
> I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't

recognize,

> got
> the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.
>

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 by: Zod - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:38 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 2:31:52 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Rachel wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > >> >version.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > > >> >
> > > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > > >> >
> > > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > > >> >--
> > > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> > page)
> > > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> > (mystic page)
> > > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> > king - he
> > > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> > Tikaram)
> > > >> >
> > > >> --
> > > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> > AntiChrist rising!
> > > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> > https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> > https://mindspring.com
> > >
> > > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> > one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> > >
> > > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > > Hello there, Rachel.
> > >
> > > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> > Senetto will think he's a "plant".
> >
> >
> > I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> > Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> > "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't
> recognize,
> > got
> > the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> > Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> > attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.

Yep...

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:50 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Rachel wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >> >version.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >> >
> > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >> >
> > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >> >
> > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > >> >--
> > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> king - he
> > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> > >> >
> > >> --
> > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> AntiChrist rising!
> > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> https://mindspring.com
> >
> > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> >
> > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > Hello there, Rachel.
> >
> > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> Senetto will think he's a "plant".

> I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't realize it, got
> the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.

Yes, and remember that ME went on the attack with Mack as well, calling him a "motherfucker" and other nasty comments, until Pendragon had to step in and ask Mack to excuse her.

And so it goes.

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Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan -- Hallelujah
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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 20:19 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:29:26 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> page)
> >>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king
> >> - he
> >>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll?
> >> The song?
> >>>
> >>> You seem confused, again, George. ME is addressing General Stink,
> >> regarding his name of choice.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Pendragon
> >> As the thread shows, Michael, the MEatpuppet was replying to Prof.
> >> Dalton. Why are you calling Prof. Dalton "General Stink"?
> >
> > The thread shows that she was replying to "General Stink."
> No, Michael, that's not true, and anyone who can and will read knows
> it's not true. The thread shows that the MEatpuppet was replying to the
> OP, "David Dalton." All anyone has to do is scroll up to read it:
>
> <quote>
> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> </quote>
>
> Now please stop lying about that.
> >
> > And you know very well who General Stink is.
> >
> I think we all know whom you and your MEatpuppet like to call "General
> Stink." What we don't know is why you'd think he wrote the OP and used
> David Dalton as his "name of choice" for it; or why you'd say it if you
> didn't think it.
> > What could you possibly hope to accomplish by playing stupid, George?
> >
> I love how, when you're caught in a lie, you reach for the insults.

That's the Michael Pendragon way, keep slinging his monkey shit and hope some of it will stick.

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 21:01 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> page)
> >>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king
> >> - he
> >>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll?
> >> The song?
> >>>
> >>> You seem confused, again, George. ME is addressing General Stink,
> >> regarding his name of choice.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Pendragon
> >> As the thread shows, Michael, the MEatpuppet was replying to Prof.
> >> Dalton. Why are you calling Prof. Dalton "General Stink"?
> >
> > The thread shows that she was replying to "General Stink."
> No, Michael, that's not true, and anyone who can and will read knows
> it's not true. The thread shows that the MEatpuppet was replying to the
> OP, "David Dalton." All anyone has to do is scroll up to read it:

> <quote>
> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> </quote>

> Now please stop lying about that.

> >
> > And you know very well who General Stink is.
> >
> I think we all know whom you and your MEatpuppet like to call "General
> Stink." What we don't know is why you'd think he wrote the OP and used
> David Dalton as his "name of choice" for it; or why you'd say it if you
> didn't think it.

It is indeed an odd attempt at deflection...!

> > What could you possibly hope to accomplish by playing stupid, George?
> >

> I love how, when you're caught in a lie, you reach for the insults.

Any dirty trick to defend his team...?

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 by: Rachel - Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:03 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 10:27:55 AM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 4:41:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:22:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:26:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:13:05 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > >> > On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 23:48:50 UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > >> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> At best, you can say ME fucked up and responded to the wrong person.
> > > >>
> > > >> No amount of spin doctoring from you can change that, Pendragon, you whining little monkey.
> > >
> > > > Maybe she did... maybe it was a Nova BS glitch.
> > > No, I've been quoting from Google Groups, and her response was made /twice/ to David Dalton, not Zod.
> > >
> > > Take a moment and look for yourself, Pendragon.
> > Like I've said, I often have to deleted the headers in responses to you and your Stink.
> >
> > Whatever. The point is that ME has confirmed that she was responding to Stink.
> Isn't the author of a piece the ultimate authority on the meaning of the piece?

there are several ways in which this may not be the case

example 1 not if he doesn't remember , and others who know his history better can empirically draw from that and simply reveal or deduce the intended meaning of the person

example 2 ultimate is way too strong a word for man to use regarding meaning / hubris. as science evolves, new understandings and paradigms are formed, and something an author "meant" in a prior time period may longer be relevant to man, and they decide on a new meaning based on their science of matter

i think what you are really asking is, is an individual the ultimate authority on his identity. sort of like bob dylan said, "you're anything you say you are."

it's really a question of power , and how it is wielded

(i've been locked out for ages...waiting...)

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 01:02 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:29:26 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>>>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >>>>>> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >>>>>> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
> page)
> >>>>>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> >>>> (mystic page)
> >>>>>> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king
> >> - he
> >>>>>> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> >>>> Tikaram)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This has not worked out well for you, has it?
> >>>> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll?
> >> The song?
> >>>
> >>> You seem confused, again, George. ME is addressing General Stink,
> >> regarding his name of choice.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Pendragon
> >> As the thread shows, Michael, the MEatpuppet was replying to Prof.
> >> Dalton. Why are you calling Prof. Dalton "General Stink"?
> >
> > The thread shows that she was replying to "General Stink."
> No, Michael, that's not true, and anyone who can and will read knows
> it's not true. The thread shows that the MEatpuppet was replying to the
> OP, "David Dalton." All anyone has to do is scroll up to read it:

1) Contextually, General Stink's post is the only one she could have been responding to.
2) ME has confirmed that she was replying to General Stink.

Case closed.

Your wrong, George. There's no point in arguing it any further.

> <quote>
> On 2022-10-24 4:04 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:44:04 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-24 12:41 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> </quote>
>
> Now please stop lying about that.
> >
> > And you know very well who General Stink is.
> >
> I think we all know whom you and your MEatpuppet like to call "General
> Stink." What we don't know is why you'd think he wrote the OP and used
> David Dalton as his "name of choice" for it; or why you'd say it if you
> didn't think it.

IOW: You know who General Stink is.

Therefore your question: "Why are you calling Prof. Dalton'General Stink'?" was a disingenuous piece of trollery.

Funny how no one is surprised.

> > What could you possibly hope to accomplish by playing stupid, George?
> >
> I love how, when you're caught in a lie, you reach for the insults.

You're pretending an insult exists where there is nothing of the sort.

Had I wanted to call you stupid, I would have done so. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you are pretending to be so. And since you've just admitted that you know "whom[sic] (I and ME) like to call 'General Stink," one can only conclude that you were playing stupid.

Are you really that stupid that you think you can lie about your posts in the same thread where they are archived?

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 01:04 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Rachel wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >> >version.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >> >
> > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >> >
> > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >> >
> > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > >> >--
> > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> king - he
> > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> > >> >
> > >> --
> > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> AntiChrist rising!
> > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> https://mindspring.com
> >
> > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> >
> > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > Hello there, Rachel.
> >
> > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> Senetto will think he's a "plant".
>
>
> I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't realize it, got
> the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.

See above.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 26 Oct 2022 01:07 UTC

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 7:59:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Rachel wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
> > > >> In article <0001HW.28FF7B9A00...@88.198.57.247>,
> > > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > > >> >Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > > >> >Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > > >> >it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > > >> >version.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > > >> >
> > > >> >(And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Also the song is only partly religious.
> > > >> >
> > > >> A tribute to Leonard I see!
> > > >> >--
> > > >> >David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > >> >https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> > (mystic page)
> > > >> >"And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher
> > king - he
> > > >> >will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> > Tikaram)
> > > >> >
> > > >> --
> > > >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > > >> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware
> > AntiChrist rising!
> > > >> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> > https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
> > > >> How can we serve those we are trying to crush? -unknown Beware
> > https://mindspring.com
> > >
> > > > I usually don't like female covers in general, but I thought this
> > one was great. Sent it on to my Mom... :)
> > >
> > > > What are *you* doing here? ;-)
> > > Hello there, Rachel.
> > >
> > > I also remember David Dalton from the Dylan newsgroup, I expect
> > Senetto will think he's a "plant".
>
>
> > I suspect that's what happened here. The MEatpuppet's been reading the
> > Chimp's conspiracy theory posts about how we're bringing in all those
> > "plants" to take over the group, saw a name she didn't realize it, got
> > the idea (either by herself, or from an email from the Chimp) that David
> > Dalton was a "plant", and began trolling him. Then, after I called
> > attention to it, MMP made up this "General Stink" story to cover for her.
> Yes, and remember that ME went on the attack with Mack as well, calling him a "motherfucker" and other nasty comments, until Pendragon had to step in and ask Mack to excuse her.
>
>
> And so it goes.

That doesn't make any sense, Donkey.

If I apologized to Mack for ME's attack on him, why would I try to pretend that she wasn't attacking Mr. Dalton?

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George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>
>> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> >> version.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> >>
> >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> >>
> >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> (mystic page)
> >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> Tikaram)
> >
> >
> > This has not worked out well for you, has it?

> *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?

Notice that ME hasn't even responded, Pendragon has been speaking for her for some odd reason.

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On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 9:18:23 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-10-23 11:48 p.m., ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 20:26:03 UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> >
> >> Here is Sarah McLachlan performing Leonard Cohen’s
> > >> Hallelujah. Even though many people have covered it,
> > >> it is wonderful to hear her doing it---she does a beautiful
> > >> version.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41Ywxgz1mI
> > >>
> > >> (And I hope I am playing the right chord tonight, ha.)
> > >>
> > >> Also the song is only partly religious.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > >> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
> > (mystic page)
> > >> "And I know the young man with a century's face/A philosopher king - he
> > >> will try to amaze/With examples of love and examples of hate" (T.
> > Tikaram)
> > >
> > >
> > > This has not worked out well for you, has it?
>
> > *What* do you think hasn't worked out well for Mr. Dalton, troll? The song?
> Notice that ME hasn't even responded, Pendragon has been speaking for her for some odd reason.

ME doesn't care to bother with your troll posts, Donkey. In a private email, she confirmed that her post was addressing General Stink.

Deal with it.

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No, ME fucked up and responded to David Dalton twice and now you're trying to somehow explain it all away, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

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