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* Why won't George Dance answer a simple question?Robert Burrows
`* Re: Why won't George Dance answer a simple question?George J. Dance
 +* Re: Why won't George Dance answer a simple question?General-Zod
 |`- Re: Why won't George Dance answer a simple question?Will Dockery
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 by: Robert Burrows - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:18 UTC

George Dance wrote:

Jim Senetto can't
write a decent haiku
or anything else.

Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:20 UTC

On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> George Dance wrote:
>
> Jim Senetto can't
> write a decent haiku
> or anything else.
>
> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?

Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
you asked it:

"I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."

You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
lie about whether you got an answer.

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:28 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>> George Dance wrote:
>>
>> Jim Senetto can't
>> write a decent haiku
>> or anything else.
>>
>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?

> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> you asked it:

> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."

> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> lie about whether you got an answer.

Robert seems to be having difficulty remembering things lately.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:49 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > George Dance wrote:
> >
> > Jim Senetto can't
> > write a decent haiku
> > or anything else.
> >
> > Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>
> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> you asked it:
>
> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>
> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> lie about whether you got an answer.

That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.

I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However, since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude them from my invitation.

An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with poetry he considered to be worthless.

If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents were not up to a certain standard.

But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack those of your potential adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")

When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the "party" of the party being addressed.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:17 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > George Dance wrote:
> >
> > Jim Senetto can't
> > write a decent haiku
> > or anything else.
> >
> > Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>
> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> you asked it:
>
> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>
> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> lie about whether you got an answer.

Disingenuous Dance.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:26 UTC

On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>> write a decent haiku
>>> or anything else.
>>>
>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>
>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>> you asked it:
>>
>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>
>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>
>
> Disingenuous Dance.

Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
Suck it up.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:31 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>> write a decent haiku
> >>> or anything else.
> >>>
> >>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>
> >> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >> you asked it:
> >>
> >> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>
> >> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >
> >
> > Disingenuous Dance.
> Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
> Suck it up.

First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.

If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:35 UTC

On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>> write a decent haiku
>>> or anything else.
>>>
>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>
>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>> you asked it:
>>
>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>
>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>
> That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.

So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
Robert didn't get an answer, either.

>
> I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However, since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude them from my invitation.
>

So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
sentence is a lie.

> An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with poetry he considered to be worthless.
>
> If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents were not up to a certain standard.

You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
not exclude poets I didn't like.

> But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack those of your potential adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
>
> When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the "party" of the party being addressed.

That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
so early.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:40 UTC

On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>> write a decent haiku
>>> or anything else.
>>>
>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>
>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>> you asked it:
>>
>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>
>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>
>
> Disingenuous Dance.

You told a lie and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
better about that, you go right ahead.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:52 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>> write a decent haiku
> >>> or anything else.
> >>>
> >>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>
> >> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >> you asked it:
> >>
> >> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>
> >> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >
> > That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.
> So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
> Robert didn't get an answer, either.

I didn't say that Robert didn't get a *response,* George.

I said that your response did no answer his question.

Words matter. Learn what they mean and how to use them correctly.

> > I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However, since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude them from my invitation.
> >
> So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
> sentence is a lie.

No, George. I ask everyone to post... with exceptions stipulated in small print.

> > An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with poetry he considered to be worthless.
> >
> > If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents were not up to a certain standard.
> You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
> My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
> not exclude poets I didn't like.

AYoS has a similar purpose, and does not exclude *poets* I dislike.

It excludes *poetry* that would be an embarrassment for other poets to find included alongside their own.

> > But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack those of your potential adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
> >
> > When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the "party" of the party being addressed..
> That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
> so early.

It's supported by your track record, George.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:52 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>> write a decent haiku
> >>> or anything else.
> >>>
> >>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>
> >> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >> you asked it:
> >>
> >> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>
> >> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >
> >
> > Disingenuous Dance.
> You told a lie and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
> better about that, you go right ahead.

Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:57 UTC

On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>
>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>> you asked it:
>>>>
>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>
>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Disingenuous Dance.

>> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
>> better about that, you go right ahead.
>
> Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?

Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.

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George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>>> you asked it:
>>>>>
>>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disingenuous Dance.

>>> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
>>> better about that, you go right ahead.
>>
>> Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?

> Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
> this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.

That's Michael Pendragon, always the whining little monkey.

🙂

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On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:57:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>> you asked it:
> >>>>
> >>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>>>
> >>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Disingenuous Dance.
> >> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
> >> better about that, you go right ahead.
> >
> > Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?
> Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
> this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.

Disingenuous, Dance.
Happy now?

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On 2022-11-15 12:31 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>
>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>> you asked it:
>>>>
>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>
>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Disingenuous Dance.
>> Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
>> Suck it up.
>
> First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
>

You're either lying or confused, Michael. First I did tell Bobby Burro,
in answer to his question, that I'd asked Jim (since I asked everyone)
for a poem ... now, I'm claimed that the Burro was lying when he said I
didn't give him that answer.

> If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.

Where's the lie, Michael?

You may not believe that I asked Jim for a poem, but it's a statement of
fact that Jim (unless he lies to you) will confirm.

Or you may not believe that the Burro was lying when he said I didn't
answer his question, but my answer is in the archives.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:15 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:57:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>> you asked it:
> >>>>
> >>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>>>
> >>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Disingenuous Dance.
> >> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
> >> better about that, you go right ahead.
> >
> > Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?
> Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
> this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.

GD: B-b-b-but he called me a name fiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, George, he didn't.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:18 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:14:22 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:31 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>> you asked it:
> >>>>
> >>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>>>
> >>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Disingenuous Dance.
> >> Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
> >> Suck it up.
> >
> > First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
> >
> You're either lying or confused, Michael. First I did tell Bobby Burro,
> in answer to his question, that I'd asked Jim (since I asked everyone)
> for a poem ... now, I'm claimed that the Burro was lying when he said I
> didn't give him that answer.
> > If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.
> Where's the lie, Michael?
>
> You may not believe that I asked Jim for a poem, but it's a statement of
> fact that Jim (unless he lies to you) will confirm.
>
> Or you may not believe that the Burro was lying when he said I didn't
> answer his question, but my answer is in the archives.

As previously noted:

First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.

It's got to be one or the other, George. You can't have it both ways.

If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.

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On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>
>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>> you asked it:
>>>>
>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>
>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>
>>> That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.
>> So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
>> Robert didn't get an answer, either.
>
> I didn't say that Robert didn't get a *response,* George.
>
> I said that your response did no answer his question.

It certainly did: he asked why I asked Jim for a poem. My "response"
answered his question: I asked Jim because I asked everyone.

>
> Words matter. Learn what they mean and how to use them correctly.
>

Indeed. Don't try, for instance, to pretend that an answer you didn't
like wasn't an answer.

>
>>> I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However, since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude them from my invitation.
>>>
>> So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
>> sentence is a lie.
>
> No, George. I ask everyone to post... with exceptions stipulated in small print.
>

If you're making 'exceptions' for the poets you don't like, then you're
not asking "everyone". Words matter: Learn what they mean, and how to
use them correctly.

>>> An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with poetry he considered to be worthless.
>>>
>>> If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents were not up to a certain standard.
>> You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
>> My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
>> not exclude poets I didn't like.
>
> AYoS has a similar purpose, and does not exclude *poets* I dislike.

You just said you were excluding poets you dislike.

> It excludes *poetry* that would be an embarrassment for other poets to find included alongside their own.
>

Don't blame your decisions on "other poets", Michael. You're the editor,
not them. Maybe Jim did tell you not to exclude Will's poems, but that
it was you who excluded them, not him. Take some responsibility for your
actions.

>>> But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack those of your potential adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
>>>
>>> When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the "party" of the party being addressed.

>> That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
>> so early.
>
> It's supported by your track record, George.

And yours that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants is
supported by yours, Michael.

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 by: Robert Burrows - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:30 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:18:07 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:14:22 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-15 12:31 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> > >>>>> George Dance wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> > >>>>> write a decent haiku
> > >>>>> or anything else.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> > >>>> you asked it:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> > >>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Disingenuous Dance.
> > >> Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
> > >> Suck it up.
> > >
> > > First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
> > >
> > You're either lying or confused, Michael. First I did tell Bobby Burro,
> > in answer to his question, that I'd asked Jim (since I asked everyone)
> > for a poem ... now, I'm claimed that the Burro was lying when he said I
> > didn't give him that answer.
> > > If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.
> > Where's the lie, Michael?
> >
> > You may not believe that I asked Jim for a poem, but it's a statement of
> > fact that Jim (unless he lies to you) will confirm.
> >
> > Or you may not believe that the Burro was lying when he said I didn't
> > answer his question, but my answer is in the archives.
> As previously noted:
> First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
> It's got to be one or the other, George. You can't have it both ways.
> If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.

George seems very confused.
Some cognitive testing
might confirm early onset dementia.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:34 UTC

On 2022-11-15 1:28 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca
>> wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5,
>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for
>>>>>> you e-magazine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>>> you asked it:
>>>>>
>>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/
>>>>> magazine."
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for
>>>>> you to
>>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>>
>>>> That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.
>>> So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
>>> Robert didn't get an answer, either.
>>
>> I didn't say that Robert didn't get a *response,* George.
>>
>> I said that your response did no answer his question.
>
> It certainly did: he asked why I asked Jim for a poem. My "response"
> answered his question: I asked Jim because I asked everyone.
>
>>
>> Words matter.  Learn what they mean and how to use them correctly.
>>
>
> Indeed. Don't try, for instance, to pretend that an answer you didn't
> like wasn't an answer.
>
>>
>>>> I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However,
>>>> since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of
>>>> writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude
>>>> them from my invitation.
>>>>
>>> So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
>>> sentence is a lie.
>>
>> No, George.  I ask everyone to post... with exceptions stipulated in
>> small print.
>>
>
> If you're making 'exceptions' for the poets you don't like, then you're
> not asking "everyone". Words matter: Learn what they mean, and how to
> use them correctly.
>
>>>> An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be
>>>> worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with
>>>> poetry he considered to be worthless.
>>>>
>>>> If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good
>>>> enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no
>>>> standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at
>>>> it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents
>>>> were not up to a certain standard.

>>> You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
>>> My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
>>> not exclude poets I didn't like.
>>
>> AYoS has a similar purpose, and does not exclude *poets* I dislike.
>
> You just said you were excluding poets you dislike.
>
>
>> It excludes *poetry* that would be an embarrassment for other poets to
>> find included alongside their own.
>>
>
> Don't blame your decisions on "other poets", Michael. You're the editor,
> not them. Maybe Jim did tell you not to exclude Will's poems, but that

There's that pesky 'not' again.
"Maybe Jim did tell you to exlude Will's poems ..."

> it was you who excluded them, not him. Take some responsibility for your
> actions.

>>>> But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories:
>>>> potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings
>>>> of your potential allies and attack those of your potential
>>>> adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
>>>>
>>>> When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When
>>>> he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and
>>>> claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half
>>>> toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the
>>>> "party" of the party being addressed.
>
>>> That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
>>> so early.
>>
>> It's supported by your track record, George.
>
> And yours that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants is
> supported by yours, Michael.
>

Since I'm in here to edit, I might as well edit that sentence, too.

"And my response, that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants,
is supported by yours, Michael."

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:38 UTC

On 2022-11-15 1:15 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:57:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>>>> you asked it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Disingenuous Dance.
>>>> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
>>>> better about that, you go right ahead.
>>>
>>> Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?
>> Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
>> this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.
>
> GD: B-b-b-but he called me a name fiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

You lied when you said I was calling him "Bobby Burro" in this thread,
when I was calling him "Robert". Like him, you're trying to cover up
your lie by deflecting with a hissy fit.

> Actually, George, he didn't.

Actually, Michael, you're full of shit.

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 by: George J. Dance - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:41 UTC

On 2022-11-15 1:18 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:14:22 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-15 12:31 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
>>>>>>> write a decent haiku
>>>>>>> or anything else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
>>>>>> you asked it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
>>>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Disingenuous Dance.
>>>> Don't be such a whiner, Bobby Burro. You told a lie, and you got caught.
>>>> Suck it up.
>>>
>>> First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
>>>
>> You're either lying or confused, Michael. First I did tell Bobby Burro,
>> in answer to his question, that I'd asked Jim (since I asked everyone)
>> for a poem ... now, I'm claimed that the Burro was lying when he said I
>> didn't give him that answer.
>>> If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.
>> Where's the lie, Michael?
>>
>> You may not believe that I asked Jim for a poem, but it's a statement of
>> fact that Jim (unless he lies to you) will confirm.
>>
>> Or you may not believe that the Burro was lying when he said I didn't
>> answer his question, but my answer is in the archives.
>
> As previously noted:
>
> First you claim to have asked Jim for a poem... now you claim that Robert was lying when he said you asked Jim for a poem.
>
> It's got to be one or the other, George. You can't have it both ways.
>

Your first statement is true. Your second statement was a lie: I did not
"claim that Robert was lying when he said [I] asked Jim for a poem."

> If anyone got caught lying here, George, it's you.

Actually, Michael, it was Bobby Burro first, and now you.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:43 UTC

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:28:25 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>> you asked it:
> >>>>
> >>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>>>
> >>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>
> >>> That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.
> >> So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
> >> Robert didn't get an answer, either.
> >
> > I didn't say that Robert didn't get a *response,* George.
> >
> > I said that your response did no answer his question.
> It certainly did: he asked why I asked Jim for a poem. My "response"
> answered his question: I asked Jim because I asked everyone.

I've already explained this to your, George.

As previously noted, it begs the question: Does your BBB magazine lack standards to the point that you would include poetry you deem worthless in it?

> > Words matter. Learn what they mean and how to use them correctly.
> >
> Indeed. Don't try, for instance, to pretend that an answer you didn't
> like wasn't an answer.

It may have been an answer... just not to Robert's question.

I don't know whose question it was an answer to. Are you hearing those strange voice in your head again?

> >>> I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However, since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude them from my invitation.
> >>>
> >> So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
> >> sentence is a lie.
> >
> > No, George. I ask everyone to post... with exceptions stipulated in small print.
> >
> If you're making 'exceptions' for the poets you don't like, then you're
> not asking "everyone". Words matter: Learn what they mean, and how to
> use them correctly.

Again, I direct you to read the fine print.

Everyone (with exceptions) ≠ Everyone.

> >>> An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with poetry he considered to be worthless.
> >>>
> >>> If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents were not up to a certain standard..
> >> You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
> >> My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
> >> not exclude poets I didn't like.
> >
> > AYoS has a similar purpose, and does not exclude *poets* I dislike.
> You just said you were excluding poets you dislike.

No, George. My exclusion has nothing to do with my personal feelings regarding the Donkey and his Stink. I have excluded them for the following reasons:

1) They have shown themselves to be troll, and are no longer considered members of AAPC,
2) I would be embarrassed to have my poetry appear in any collection that would publish theirs,
3) Several AYoS contributors have informed me that they do not wish to see their poetry appearing in a publication alongside of the swill that they write.

When one's poetry is so terrible that other poets refuse to have their work appear alongside of it... it speaks volumes as to the quality of their work.

The Donkey and his Stink have been banned due to the consistent lack of quality in their work. They have not been banned because I dislike them as individuals.

> > It excludes *poetry* that would be an embarrassment for other poets to find included alongside their own.
> >
> Don't blame your decisions on "other poets", Michael. You're the editor,
> not them. Maybe Jim did tell you not to exclude Will's poems, but that
> it was you who excluded them, not him. Take some responsibility for your
> actions.

Several of my contributors expressed this sentiment, George (myself included).

> >>> But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack those of your potential adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
> >>>
> >>> When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half toady and half jackass.. Which half shows itself depends on the "party" of the party being addressed.
>
> >> That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
> >> so early.
> >
> > It's supported by your track record, George.
> And yours that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants is
> supported by yours, Michael.

I rarely drink in the daytime George. And even if I were to start, it wouldn't change the fact that (like your fellow Splooges), you praise those you consider potential allies, and attack those you consider to be adversaries..

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On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 1:28 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> > On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 2022-11-15 11:49 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5,
> >>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for
> >>>>>> you e-magazine?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>>> you asked it:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/
> >>>>> magazine."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for
> >>>>> you to
> >>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>>
> >>>> That is not an answer to Robert's question, George.
> >>> So you didn't like the answer. That's no reason to lie and pretend
> >>> Robert didn't get an answer, either.
> >>
> >> I didn't say that Robert didn't get a *response,* George.
> >>
> >> I said that your response did no answer his question.
> >
> > It certainly did: he asked why I asked Jim for a poem. My "response"
> > answered his question: I asked Jim because I asked everyone.
> >
> >>
> >> Words matter. Learn what they mean and how to use them correctly.
> >>
> >
> > Indeed. Don't try, for instance, to pretend that an answer you didn't
> > like wasn't an answer.
> >
> >>
> >>>> I ask everyone at AAPC to post poetry to the AYoS thread. However,
> >>>> since I believe that Will Donkey and his Stink are incapable of
> >>>> writing "a decent haiku or anything else," I make certain to exclude
> >>>> them from my invitation.
> >>>>
> >>> So you don't "ask everyone at AAPC" to post poetry to AYOS. Your first
> >>> sentence is a lie.
> >>
> >> No, George. I ask everyone to post... with exceptions stipulated in
> >> small print.
> >>
> >
> > If you're making 'exceptions' for the poets you don't like, then you're
> > not asking "everyone". Words matter: Learn what they mean, and how to
> > use them correctly.
> >
> >>>> An editor would not want to publish poetry that he considered to be
> >>>> worthless, nor would he wish to have his magazine associated with
> >>>> poetry he considered to be worthless.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you ask Jim for poetry, you must think that his poetry is good
> >>>> enough to appear in your magazine. Unless your magazine has no
> >>>> standards whatsoever, and publishes any garbage that is thrown at
> >>>> it, you would not solicit submissions from a writer whose talents
> >>>> were not up to a certain standard.
>
> >>> You can use whatever editorial standards you want in your own anthology.
> >>> My intent was to produce a representative sample of usenet poetry; I did
> >>> not exclude poets I didn't like.
> >>
> >> AYoS has a similar purpose, and does not exclude *poets* I dislike.
> >
> > You just said you were excluding poets you dislike.
> >
> >
> >> It excludes *poetry* that would be an embarrassment for other poets to
> >> find included alongside their own.
> >>
> >
> > Don't blame your decisions on "other poets", Michael. You're the editor,
> > not them. Maybe Jim did tell you not to exclude Will's poems, but that
> There's that pesky 'not' again.

Um... you're responding to your own statement, George.

> "Maybe Jim did tell you to exlude Will's poems ..."

And again.

> > it was you who excluded them, not him. Take some responsibility for your
> > actions.
>
> >>>> But we all know your m.o. You divide everyone into two categories:
> >>>> potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings
> >>>> of your potential allies and attack those of your potential
> >>>> adversaries. (Or, as you like to call it: "Tit for Tat.")
> >>>>
> >>>> When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When
> >>>> he is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and
> >>>> claim he can't write. Like most career politicians, you're half
> >>>> toady and half jackass. Which half shows itself depends on the
> >>>> "party" of the party being addressed.
> >
> >>> That sounds like a paranoid rant, Michael. You shouldn't hit the booze
> >>> so early.
> >>
> >> It's supported by your track record, George.
> >
> > And yours that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants is
> > supported by yours, Michael.
> >
> Since I'm in here to edit, I might as well edit that sentence, too.
>
>
> "And my response, that you hit the booze early and make paranoid rants,
> is supported by yours, Michael."

You're the one responding to your own statements, George.

What time is it in Canuckland?

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On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:38:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 1:15 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:57:58 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-15 12:52 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-11-15 12:17 p.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:20:44 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-11-15 10:18 a.m., Robert Burrows wrote:
> >>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jim Senetto can't
> >>>>>>> write a decent haiku
> >>>>>>> or anything else.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then why did you personally solicit more than one of his poems for you e-magazine?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please don't lie, Robert. You were given an answer in the thread where
> >>>>>> you asked it:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "I asked everyone posting poetry on aapc for poems for /April/ magazine."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You may have not understood the answer, but that's no reason for you to
> >>>>>> lie about whether you got an answer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Disingenuous Dance.
> >>>> You told a lie -- and you got caught. If calling me names makes you feel
> >>>> better about that, you go right ahead.
> >>>
> >>> Is that why you called Robert "Bobby Burro"?
> >> Please don't lie, Michael. Before Bobby Burro started name-calling in
> >> this thread, I was calling him "Robert" -- it's still in the backthread.
> >
> > GD: B-b-b-but he called me a name fiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> You lied when you said I was calling him "Bobby Burro" in this thread,

Really? How many threads have you been calling him "Bobby Burro" in?

> when I was calling him "Robert". Like him, you're trying to cover up
> your lie by deflecting with a hissy fit.
> > Actually, George, he didn't.
> Actually, Michael, you're full of shit.

Robert has already added the missing comma, thereby establishing that he did not call you a name.

Please try to follow the conversation.

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