On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:46:35 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> >
> > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> >
> > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> >
> > The Donkey and his Stink are invited to participate as well.
> Life of a Ladies' Man
>
> I have so many lady friends,
> But some do make me nervous:
> You know, the ones who speak of love
> When what they mean is service.
>
> -gjd

"Ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl."

https://youtu.be/Td6I5l9UnSg

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:21:53 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -gjd
> > > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man." We tried to listen to the song. We read the lyrics. The song was truly terrible, and his "singing" should have gotten him tomatoed off any stage. The words, as read, were making us sick.
> >
> > Look it up.
> We did. We see no obligatory answer in George Dance's 4 lines that have in any way transformed Cohen's pornography into something else, other than a one minute write. There is no truth in George Dance's words.
>
> We hope that Michael critiques the poems in this thread once the noon deadline is reached.

I won't have time for critiques today -- I'm catching a 4:15 train for an extended weekend adventure.

I will, however, say that GD's poem left me unimpressed. I think George's meaning is that the women who are (from his perspective) servicing him make him nervous when they speak of love. If so, his speaker is not so much a ladies man, as a misogynist. Allowing for it to have been slightly OT, GD's poem just misses the mark. A pithy, cynical witticism needs to be clearly expressed in order to work. The meaning of George's poem is rather fuzzy: Are the women making him nervous because they speak of love when he wants service, or because they want service from him? When one has to guess at a joke's meaning, any humor it might have had is necessarily lost. A second point against it, is that both readings present stereotypical points of view. A witticism should shatter a cultural belief -- not support it.

I looked up the lyrics to Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man," and was even less impressed. The Donkey claims GD was responding to another poem -- although the title attests otherwise.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 10:09:20 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:21:53 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -gjd
> > > > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man." We tried to listen to the song. We read the lyrics. The song was truly terrible, and his "singing" should have gotten him tomatoed off any stage. The words, as read, were making us sick.
> > >
> > > Look it up.
> > We did. We see no obligatory answer in George Dance's 4 lines that have in any way transformed Cohen's pornography into something else, other than a one minute write. There is no truth in George Dance's words.
> >
> > We hope that Michael critiques the poems in this thread once the noon deadline is reached.
> I won't have time for critiques today -- I'm catching a 4:15 train for an extended weekend adventure.

Good riddance.

🙂

> I will, however, say that GD's poem left me unimpressed. I think George's meaning is that the women who are (from his perspective) servicing him make him nervous when they speak of love. If so, his speaker is not so much a ladies man, as a misogynist. Allowing for it to have been slightly OT, GD's poem just misses the mark. A pithy, cynical witticism needs to be clearly expressed in order to work. The meaning of George's poem is rather fuzzy: Are the women making him nervous because they speak of love when he wants service, or because they want service from him? When one has to guess at a joke's meaning, any humor it might have had is necessarily lost. A second point against it, is that both readings present stereotypical points of view. A witticism should shatter a cultural belief -- not support it.
>
> I looked up the lyrics to Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man," and was even less impressed. The Donkey claims GD was responding to another poem -- although the title attests otherwise.

Spam-I-Am wrote:

>

> The exciting life of a ladies man includes such mundane daily chores
> as doing laundry, washing dishes, running the vacuum and dusting.
> All in all, the exciting life of a ladies man is not as exciting as you think.

Like I said:

"Ends up making payments on a sofa and a girl."

https://youtu.be/Td6I5l9UnSg

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> NancyGene wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -gjd
> >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> >> > >
> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>
> > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>
> Nice try, though.
>
> Google some more.

Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....

On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> NancyGene wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -gjd
> >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> >> > >
> >> > > HTH and HAND.
> >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>
> > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>
> Nice try, though.
>
> Google some more.
>
> 🙂

BULLSHIT

On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:22:24 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > NancyGene wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > -gjd
> > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> >
> > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> >
> > Nice try, though.
> >
> > Google some more.
> Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....

Hey zod. NG nailed it!!
And say Hi to Ranger Dave from ME!!!

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > NancyGene wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > -gjd
> > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> >
> > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> >
> > Nice try, though.
> >
> > Google some more.
> >
> > 🙂
> BULLSHIT

far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:34:39 PM UTC, ME wrote:
> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:22:24 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > NancyGene wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > >
> > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > >
> > > Nice try, though.
> > >
> > > Google some more.
> > Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....
> Hey zod. NG nailed it!!
> And say Hi to Ranger Dave from ME!!!

Is Ranger Dave in charge of both arrest and cleanup?

On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 18:40:20 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > NancyGene wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > >
> > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > >
> > > Nice try, though.
> > >
> > > Google some more.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > BULLSHIT
>
> far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!

Which evidently you nor dance don’t.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 10:08:03 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 18:40:20 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow)..
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > > >
> > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > > >
> > > > Nice try, though.
> > > >
> > > > Google some more.
> > > >
> > > > 🙂
> > > BULLSHIT
> >
> > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
> Which evidently you nor dance don’t.

What makes you think that?

On Saturday, 19 November 2022 at 00:00:38 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 10:08:03 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 18:40:20 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > > > >
> > > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice try, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Google some more.
> > > > >
> > > > > 🙂
> > > > BULLSHIT
> > >
> > > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
> > Which evidently you nor dance don’t.
> What makes you think that?
Hahahaha. Hahahaha

Like I asked, what makes you think George and Zod don't know Leonard Cohen's poetry?

Obviously they do.

🙂

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 12:39:55 AM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 November 2022 at 00:00:38 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 10:08:03 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 18:40:20 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice try, though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Google some more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 🙂
> > > > > BULLSHIT
> > > >
> > > > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
> > > Which evidently you nor dance don’t.
> > What makes you think that?
> Hahahaha. Hahahaha

Like I asked, what makes you think George and Zod don't know Leonard Cohen's poetry?

Obviously they do.

HTH and HAND.

On 2022-11-19 10:27 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 12:39:55 AM UTC-5, ME wrote:
>> On Saturday, 19 November 2022 at 00:00:38 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 10:08:03 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 18:40:20 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life of a Ladies' Man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have so many lady friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But some do make me nervous:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know, the ones who speak of love
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When what they mean is service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gjd
>>>>>>>>>>>> We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>>>>> Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
>>>>>>>>> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
>>>>>>> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Google some more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 🙂
>>>>>> BULLSHIT
>>>>>
>>>>> far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
>>>> Which evidently you nor dance don’t.
>>> What makes you think that?
>> Hahahaha. Hahahaha
>
> Like I asked, what makes you think George and Zod don't know Leonard Cohen's poetry?

I doubt that Steve the MEatpuppet really believes that. They just said
that to pretend that NG knew Cohen's work, by claiming that the "other
side" doesn't. Typical troll tactic from a typical troll.

And bad logic: if one party's wrong, it doesn't make the other party
right. Sometimes both parties arguing a fact can be wrong.

>
> Obviously they do.
>
> HTH and HAND.

On 2022-11-18 5:56 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:34:39 PM UTC, ME wrote:
>> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:22:24 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Underlining the point of this thread.

>>>>>>>>>> Life of a Ladies' Man
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have so many lady friends,
>>>>>>>>>> But some do make me nervous:
>>>>>>>>>> You know, the ones who speak of love
>>>>>>>>>> When what they mean is service.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -gjd
>>>>>>>>> We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
>>>>>>>> No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.

NG has a point: in Cohen's poem, the man calls it love and the woman
calls it service. That's the conventional view; I changed it to give my
speaker an unconventional view.

My speaker is a star surrounded by groupies. I was basing it on Cohen.
That doesn't have to spelled out in the poem; I just added it for
background "commentary".

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>> Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
>>>>>> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>>>>
>>>>> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."

No, as Will said, that is not the source text for the verse. It is one
source text for the title. (The other source is the challenge topic.)

>>>> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>>>>
>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>
>>>> Google some more.
>>> Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....
>> Hey zod. NG nailed it!!
>> And say Hi to Ranger Dave from ME!!!
>
> Is Ranger Dave in charge of both arrest and cleanup?

As noted, this thread was opened by MP simply to troll me, and it was
done as a "poetry challenge" so that troll-turned-literary critic
NastyGene could troll too, under the guise of literary criticism. Note
though, that as soon as NG's claim about the "source text" was
challenged, they went back to undisguised trolling.

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 4:11:48 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-18 5:56 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:34:39 PM UTC, ME wrote:
> >> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:22:24 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>> NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Underlining the point of this thread.
> >>>>>>>>>> Life of a Ladies' Man
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have so many lady friends,
> >>>>>>>>>> But some do make me nervous:
> >>>>>>>>>> You know, the ones who speak of love
> >>>>>>>>>> When what they mean is service.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -gjd
> >>>>>>>>> We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> >>>>>>>> No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> NG has a point: in Cohen's poem, the man calls it love and the woman
> calls it service. That's the conventional view; I changed it to give my
> speaker an unconventional view.

However, since only Cohen "fans" would know the subject Cohen poem, your poem fails. It has no truth or transformation. Is the "conventional" view that men call it love? Cohen seems to call it porn.
>
> My speaker is a star surrounded by groupies. I was basing it on Cohen.
> That doesn't have to spelled out in the poem; I just added it for
> background "commentary".
Women don't want "service." The groupies are looking for an association/encounter with a famous person, perhaps fantasizing a more permanent connection with them (rock star falls in love with anonymous fan), and some want to get pregnant by the guy and get child support (ask basketball players about this).

> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>>>>> Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> >>>>>> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> >>>>
> >>>>> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> No, as Will said, that is not the source text for the verse. It is one
> source text for the title. (The other source is the challenge topic.)

Since we think that Leonard Cohen's "work" is excrement, we don't care to guess what lyrics you are trying to mimic. Since you added the title, a reader would assume that you are flipping (the bird) on "The Death of a Ladies Man." If you weren't, then it would take a lot more than 4 lines to "transform" his crap into something new and less stinking. Your poem does not stand on its own.

> >>>> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice try, though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Google some more.
> >>> Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....
> >> Hey zod. NG nailed it!!
> >> And say Hi to Ranger Dave from ME!!!
> >
> > Is Ranger Dave in charge of both arrest and cleanup?

> As noted, this thread was opened by MP simply to troll me, and it was
> done as a "poetry challenge" so that troll-turned-literary critic
> NastyGene could troll too, under the guise of literary criticism. Note
> though, that as soon as NG's claim about the "source text" was
> challenged, they went back to undisguised trolling.

George Dance, your assumptions (mind reading) are incorrect. We don't care about your "source text," and as we have said before, we are not fans of Leonard Cohen. We are not going to research Cohen's lyrics to find what you thought was good to semi-plagiarize (pay tribute to). We wrote an original poem, as did others. You couldn't think of anything original, even for 4 lines.

We are sure that Ranger Dave will do his job thoroughly and professionally in his service to his country.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-19 10:27 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> ME wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> ME wrote:
>>>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>>>> George Dance wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life of a Ladies' Man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have so many lady friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But some do make me nervous:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know, the ones who speak of love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When what they mean is service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gjd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
>>>>>>>>>> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
>>>>>>>> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Google some more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 🙂
>>>>>>> BULLSHIT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
>>>>> Which evidently you nor dance don’t.
>>>> What makes you think that?
>>> Hahahaha. Hahahaha
>>
>> Like I asked, what makes you think George and Zod don't know Leonard Cohen's poetry?

> I doubt that Steve the MEatpuppet really believes that.

True, I doubt she even knows what she's talking about.

> They just said
> that to pretend that NG knew Cohen's work, by claiming that the "other
> side" doesn't. Typical troll tactic from a typical troll.
>
> And bad logic: if one party's wrong, it doesn't make the other party
> right. Sometimes both parties arguing a fact can be wrong.

>>
>> Obviously they do.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

...

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 4:11:48 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-11-18 5:56 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:34:39 PM UTC, ME wrote:
> > >> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:22:24 UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>> NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Underlining the point of this thread.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Life of a Ladies' Man
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have so many lady friends,
> > >>>>>>>>>> But some do make me nervous:
> > >>>>>>>>>> You know, the ones who speak of love
> > >>>>>>>>>> When what they mean is service.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> -gjd
> > >>>>>>>>> We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > >>>>>>>> No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > NG has a point: in Cohen's poem, the man calls it love and the woman
> > calls it service. That's the conventional view; I changed it to give my
> > speaker an unconventional view.
> However, since only Cohen "fans" would know the subject Cohen poem, your poem fails. It has no truth or transformation. Is the "conventional" view that men call it love? Cohen seems to call it porn.

No, Leonard Cohen isn't as obscure as you seem to think.

> > My speaker is a star surrounded by groupies. I was basing it on Cohen.
> > That doesn't have to spelled out in the poem; I just added it for
> > background "commentary".
> Women don't want "service." The groupies are looking for an association/encounter with a famous person, perhaps fantasizing a more permanent connection with them (rock star falls in love with anonymous fan), and some want to get pregnant by the guy and get child support (ask basketball players about this).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
> > >>>>>>> Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > >>>>>> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > No, as Will said, that is not the source text for the verse. It is one
> > source text for the title. (The other source is the challenge topic.)
> Since we think that Leonard Cohen's "work" is excrement, we don't care to guess what lyrics you are trying to mimic. Since you added the title, a reader would assume that you are flipping (the bird) on "The Death of a Ladies Man." If you weren't, then it would take a lot more than 4 lines to "transform" his crap into something new and less stinking. Your poem does not stand on its own.
> > >>>> No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nice try, though.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Google some more.
> > >>> Nancy Gene is more ignorant than I thought....
> > >> Hey zod. NG nailed it!!
> > >> And say Hi to Ranger Dave from ME!!!
> > >
> > > Is Ranger Dave in charge of both arrest and cleanup?
>
> > As noted, this thread was opened by MP simply to troll me, and it was
> > done as a "poetry challenge" so that troll-turned-literary critic
> > NastyGene could troll too, under the guise of literary criticism. Note
> > though, that as soon as NG's claim about the "source text" was
> > challenged, they went back to undisguised trolling.
> George Dance, your assumptions (mind reading) are incorrect. We don't care about your "source text," and as we have said before, we are not fans of Leonard Cohen. We are not going to research Cohen's lyrics to find what you thought was good to semi-plagiarize (pay tribute to). We wrote an original poem, as did others. You couldn't think of anything original, even for 4 lines.

It was a reference, but George Dance's poem stands alone as an original work.

> We are sure that Ranger Dave will do his job thoroughly and professionally in his service to his country.

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:46:35 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
>> >
>> > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
>> >
>> > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
>> >
>> > The Donkey and his Stink are invited to participate as well.
>> Life of a Ladies' Man
>>
>> I have so many lady friends,
>> But some do make me nervous:
>> You know, the ones who speak of love
>> When what they mean is service.
>>
>> -gjd

> "Ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl."

> https://youtu.be/Td6I5l9UnSg

"You call this love I call it service."

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:40:20 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > NancyGene wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > >
> > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > >
> > > Nice try, though.
> > >
> > > Google some more.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > BULLSHIT
>
> far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!

Leonard Cohen is a folk singer -- not a poet.

It's only the illiterati who consider him to be such.

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:40:20 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow)..
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > > >
> > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > > >
> > > > Nice try, though.
> > > >
> > > > Google some more.
> > > >
> >
> > > BULLSHIT
> >
> > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
> Leonard Cohen is a folk singer -- not a poet.
>
> It's only the illiterati who consider him to be such.

You've been corrected about this more than once and can be corrected again.

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On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:58:33 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:40:20 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > NancyGene wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
> > > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
> > > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
> > > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > -gjd
> > > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
> > > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
> > > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
> > > > >
> > > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
> > > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice try, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Google some more.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > BULLSHIT
> > >
> > > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
> > Leonard Cohen is a folk singer -- not a poet.
> >
> > It's only the illiterati who consider him to be such.
> You've been corrected about this more than once and can be corrected again.

Wrong, Donkey.

Many folkies publish "poetry" books. Look at Bob D., for example.

Like I said, the illiterati consider them poets -- and I've no doubt that there are plenty of illiterates for you to quote.

But the great unwashed are not going to magically start smelling fresh and clean, and no chorus of howler monkey (regardless of its size) is going to magically transform a folk lyric into a poem.

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:58:33 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:40:20 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> > > On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-5, ME wrote:
>> > > > On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:31:20 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > > NancyGene wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:54:50 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > > >> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > > > >> > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:55 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > > On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:46:35 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > > > On 2022-11-17 11:44 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > > I am challenging *everyone* to write an original poem about "The exciting life of a ladies man."
>> > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > > Poems will be submitted by noon on the 18th (tomorrow).
>> > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > > *I hope to see a poem by GEORGE DANCE here, so he cannot claim that any conspiracy to exclude him existed.
>> > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > Life of a Ladies' Man
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > I have so many lady friends,
>> > > > > >> > > > > But some do make me nervous:
>> > > > > >> > > > > You know, the ones who speak of love
>> > > > > >> > > > > When what they mean is service.
>> > > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > -gjd
>> > > > > >> > > > We think that you have that backwards, George Dance, or else it should be "men friends."
>> > > > > >> > > No, it just went over your head, NancyGene.
>> > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > >> > > HTH and HAND.
>> > > > > >> > Please explain your thinking on the truth and meaning of George Dance's poem.
>> > > > > >> It's an OB poem to a Leonard Cohen poem, for starters.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > What is it for enders? We went to the source lyrics, which are Cohen's "The Death of a Ladies Man."
>> > > > > No, that's not the Leonard Cohen poem George Dance responded to.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Nice try, though.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Google some more.
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> > > > BULLSHIT
>> > >
>> > > far from it, if one knows the poetry of Leonard Cohen.....!
>> > Leonard Cohen is a folk singer -- not a poet.
>> >
>> > It's only the illiterati who consider him to be such.
>> You've been corrected about this more than once and can be corrected again.

> Wrong, Donkey.

> Many folkies publish "poetry" books. Look at Bob D., for example.

> Like I said, the illiterati consider them poets -- and I've no doubt that there are plenty of illiterates for you to quote.

> But the great unwashed are not going to magically start smelling fresh and clean, and no chorus of howler monkey (regardless of its size) is going to magically transform a folk lyric into a poem.

Again, Leonard Cohen was a successful poet years before he became a folk singer.

You've been told this numerous times.

HTH and HAND.

You're confused, Pendragon.

Leonard Cohen was a successful poet years before he became a folk singer.

This can be proven with multiple sources.

HTH and HAND.