Zod wrote:

> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> > On 2022-12-14 7:33 a.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >>> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> >>> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy"
>> >>> long before I got here.
>> >>> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> > I, otoh, take the high road
>> >>
>> >>> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> >>> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> >>> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things
>> >>> civil on aapc.
>> >>
>> >>> For those interested in what really happened, though, <snip>
>> > That was badly phrased. Let's edit:
>> > For those interested, here's the road that MMP actually took when he
>> > found out that I was calling PJ Ross "Piggy":
>> >>
>> >>> <quote>
>> >>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> >>> 8/5/14
>> >>> to
>> >>
>> >>> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >>> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> >>
>> >>> George Dance:
>> >>> Let me count the ways:
>> >>
>> >>> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> >>> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> >>> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> >>> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> >>> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp
>> >>> in /Lord of the Flies/.
>> >>
>> >>> See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> >>
>> >>> MMP:
>> >>> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> >>
>> >>> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >>> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done
>> >>> before."
>> >>
>> >>> MMP:
>> >>> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> >>> </q>
>>
>> > I should give a link to the original thread as well:
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ
>>
>> >>
>> >> Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and
>> >> misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> > I'm grateful you gave me a chance to have another read of it.
>> Always good to see lies and misrepresentations corrected and the record set straight.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Indeed so...!

Good evening, Zod, what else to do but keep the truth on the top?

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> before I got here.
> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > I, otoh, take the high road

> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> on aapc.

> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".

> <quote>
> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> 8/5/14
> to

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".

> George Dance:
> Let me count the ways:

> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> /Lord of the Flies/.

> See, it's a perfect name for you.

> MMP:
> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."

> MMP:
> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> </q>

Lest we forget.

🙂

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > before I got here.
> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>
> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > on aapc.
> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> > <quote>
> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > 8/5/14
> > to
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>
> > George Dance:
> > Let me count the ways:
>
> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>
> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>
> > MMP:
> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>
> > MMP:
> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > </q>
> Lest we forget.

What is your point, Donkey? (Apart from demonstrating the obvious fact that you've failed to recognize a literary quote?)

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> > before I got here.
>> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>>
>> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> > on aapc.
>> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> > <quote>
>> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> > 8/5/14
>> > to
>>
>> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>>
>> > George Dance:
>> > Let me count the ways:
>>
>> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>>
>> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>>
>> > MMP:
>> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>>
>> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>>
>> > MMP:
>> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> > </q>
>> Lest we forget.

> What is your point

You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.

🙂

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> >> > before I got here.
> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
> >>
> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> >> > on aapc.
> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >> > <quote>
> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> >> > 8/5/14
> >> > to
> >>
> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >>
> >> > George Dance:
> >> > Let me count the ways:
> >>
> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >>
> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >>
> >> > MMP:
> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >>
> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >>
> >> > MMP:
> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> >> > </q>
> >> Lest we forget.
>
> > What is your point
> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.

It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing, at this point, Donkey.

It's a question of WTF is your point?

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> >> > before I got here.
>> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>> >>
>> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> >> > on aapc.
>> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> >> > <quote>
>> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> >> > 8/5/14
>> >> > to
>> >>
>> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> >>
>> >> > George Dance:
>> >> > Let me count the ways:
>> >>
>> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>> >>
>> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> >>
>> >> > MMP:
>> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> >>
>> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>> >>
>> >> > MMP:
>> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> >> > </q>
>> >> Lest we forget.
>>
>> > What is your point
>> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.

> It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing

True, either way you can't change it.

🙂

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:05:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> >> >> > before I got here.
> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
> >> >>
> >> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> >> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> >> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> >> >> > on aapc.
> >> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> >> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >> >> > <quote>
> >> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> >> >> > 8/5/14
> >> >> > to
> >> >>
> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >> >>
> >> >> > George Dance:
> >> >> > Let me count the ways:
> >> >>
> >> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> >> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> >> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> >> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> >> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> >> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >> >>
> >> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >> >>
> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >> >>
> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> >> >> > </q>
> >> >> Lest we forget.
> >>
> >> > What is your point
> >> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.
>
> > It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing
> True, either way you can't change it.

Either way, I can't change what, Donkey?

I quoted a passage from "Lord of the Flies."

What point do you think you're making by necroposting it?

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:05:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> >> >> > before I got here.
>> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> >> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> >> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> >> >> > on aapc.
>> >> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> >> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> >> >> > <quote>
>> >> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> >> >> > 8/5/14
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > George Dance:
>> >> >> > Let me count the ways:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> >> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> >> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> >> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> >> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> >> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > MMP:
>> >> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > MMP:
>> >> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> >> >> > </q>
>> >> >> Lest we forget.
>> >>
>> >> > What is your point
>> >> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.
>>
>> > It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing
>> True, either way you can't change it.

>

> I quoted a passage from "Lord of the Flies."

No shit Lancelot Link, we already know that.

HTH and HAND.

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:05:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> >> >> >> > before I got here.
> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> >> >> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> >> >> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> >> >> >> > on aapc.
> >> >> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> >> >> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >> >> >> > <quote>
> >> >> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> >> >> >> > 8/5/14
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > George Dance:
> >> >> >> > Let me count the ways:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> >> >> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> >> >> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> >> >> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> >> >> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> >> >> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> >> >> >> > </q>
> >> >> >> Lest we forget.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What is your point
> >> >> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.
> >>
> >> > It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing
> >> True, either way you can't change it.
>
> >
> > I quoted a passage from "Lord of the Flies."
> No shit Lancelot Link, we already know that.

What we still don't know is what point you are trying to make by reposting it?

Is your point that I've read "Lord of the Flies"?

Would you like me to quote passages from other literary classics for you to repost as well?

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:05:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> >> >> >> > before I got here.
>> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> >> >> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> >> >> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> >> >> >> > on aapc.
>> >> >> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> >> >> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> >> >> >> > <quote>
>> >> >> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> >> >> >> > 8/5/14
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> >> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > George Dance:
>> >> >> >> > Let me count the ways:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> >> >> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> >> >> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> >> >> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> >> >> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> >> >> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > MMP:
>> >> >> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> >> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > MMP:
>> >> >> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> >> >> >> > </q>
>> >> >> >> Lest we forget.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > What is your point
>> >> >> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.
>> >>
>> >> > It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing
>> >> True, either way you can't change it.
>>
>> >
>> > I quoted a passage from "Lord of the Flies."
>> No shit Lancelot Link, we already know that.

>

> Is your point that I've read "Lord of the Flies"?

No, not really.

🙂

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:35:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 1:05:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> >> >> >> >> > before I got here.
> >> >> >> >> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > I, otoh, take the high road
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> >> >> >> >> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> >> >> >> >> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> >> >> >> >> > on aapc.
> >> >> >> >> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> >> >> >> >> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >> >> >> >> > <quote>
> >> >> >> >> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> >> >> >> >> > 8/5/14
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> >> >> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > George Dance:
> >> >> >> >> > Let me count the ways:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> >> >> >> >> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> >> >> >> >> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> >> >> >> >> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> >> >> >> >> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> >> >> >> >> > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> >> >> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> >> >> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > MMP:
> >> >> >> >> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> >> >> >> >> > </q>
> >> >> >> >> Lest we forget.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > What is your point
> >> >> >> You're not expected to agree, little ape boy.
> >> >>
> >> >> > It's not a question of my agreeing or disagreeing
> >> >> True, either way you can't change it.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I quoted a passage from "Lord of the Flies."
> >> No shit Lancelot Link, we already know that.
>
> >
> > Is your point that I've read "Lord of the Flies"?
> No, not really.

Okay. Is there any point that you're trying to make?

Or do you just like rereading my quote?

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> before I got here.
> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > I, otoh, take the high road

> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> on aapc.

> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".

> <quote>
> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> 8/5/14
> to

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".

> George Dance:
> Let me count the ways:

> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> /Lord of the Flies/.

> See, it's a perfect name for you.

> MMP:
> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."

> MMP:
> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> </q>

There it is, Pendragon.

No explanation should be necessary.

🙂

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:40:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > before I got here.
> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>
> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > on aapc.
>
> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>
> > <quote>
> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > 8/5/14
> > to
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>
> > George Dance:
> > Let me count the ways:
>
> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>
> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>
> > MMP:
> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>
> > MMP:
> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > </q>
> There it is, Pendragon.
>
> No explanation should be necessary.

There what is, Donkey?

George J. Dance called PJR "Piggy."

I quoted the appropriated passage from the novel as a humorous commentary on it.

Again, what point are you trying (and so miserably failing) to make?

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> before I got here.
> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > I, otoh, take the high road

> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> on aapc.

> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".

> <quote>
> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> 8/5/14
> to

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".

> George Dance:
> Let me count the ways:

> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> /Lord of the Flies/.

> See, it's a perfect name for you.

> MMP:
> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."

> MMP:
> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> </q>

Like I said, self explanatory.

🙂

Will Dockery wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:

>> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> before I got here.
>> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > I, otoh, take the high road

>> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> on aapc.

>> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".

>> <quote>
>> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> 8/5/14
>> to

>> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".

>> George Dance:
>> Let me count the ways:

>> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> /Lord of the Flies/.

>> See, it's a perfect name for you.

>> MMP:
>> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D

>> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."

>> MMP:
>> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> </q>

> Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.

> HTH and HAND.

Yep...!

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:05:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:43:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 11:15:07 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 11:00:32 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:40:13 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> >> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:00:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 6:00:24 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> >> > > > >> >> before I got here.
>> >> > > > >> >> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> > I, otoh, take the high road
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> >> > > > >> >> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> >> > > > >> >> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> >> > > > >> >> on aapc.
>> >> > > > >> > Interesting revisionist take on my post, George.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > Let's reword the above to actually reflect my statement:
>> >> > > > >> > Childish George was calling PJ Ross (and practically everyone else) barnyard names and similarly childish fare; while Michael Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil at AAPC.
>> >> > > > >> >> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> >> > > > >> >> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> <quote>
>> >> > > > >> >> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >> >> 8/5/14
>> >> > > > >> >> to
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> > > > >> >> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> George Dance:
>> >> > > > >> >> Let me count the ways:
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> >> > > > >> >> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> >> > > > >> >> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> >> > > > >> >> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> >> > > > >> >> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> >> > > > >> >> /Lord of the Flies/.
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> MMP:
>> >> > > > >> >> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> Piggy John-John Ross:
>> >> > > > >> >> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> MMP:
>> >> > > > >> >> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> >> > > > >> >> </q>
>> >> > > > >> > The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies."
>> >> > > > >> No shit, Lancelot Link.
>> >> > > > >> > NOTE TO GEORGE: When you make a literary allusion, it helps to have some familiarity with the source.
>> >> > > > >> Most of us read "Lord of the Flies" in junior high school, little monkey.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names.
>> >> > > > I doubt G.D. could hardly have missed it...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Lord Of The Flies: "Piggy's Death"
>> >> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUudc2Qey8
>> >> > > He may have gotten it at the time
>> >> > No doubt G.D. did....
>> >> I think I remember George Dance referring to the book at some point in the flame war.
>>
>> >
>> > As previously noted, my "Piggy" post was made in response to George's referencing of said book.
>>
>> No shit, Lancelot Link.

> If so, why did you just say: "I think I remember George Dance referring to the book at some point in the flame war."

Again, because I remember more than one discussion of "Lord of the Flies" here.

I'll check the archives when time permits.

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 9:26:51 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 6:00:24 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> Childish George was calling PJ Ross (and practically everyone else) barnyard names and similarly childish fare; while Michael Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil at AAPC.
> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >
> > <quote>
> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > 8/5/14
> > to
> >
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >
> > George Dance:
> > Let me count the ways:
> >
> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >
> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >
> > MMP:
> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >
> > MMP:
> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > </q>
> The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies."
>

Really? I don't remember this one:
<quote>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
</q>

> NOTE TO GEORGE: When you make a literary allusion, it helps to have some familiarity with the source.

I do have to admit that I don't remember "Piggy's" real name from the book; So I looked it up at Golding.org, but they don't seem to know it either: "What is most interesting about Piggy is that we never find out his real name."
https://william-golding.co.uk/piggy-whats-in-a-name

I suppose they just need more "familiarity with the source," too. :D

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > before I got here.
> > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > I, otoh, take the high road
>
> > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > on aapc.
>
> > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > that MMP [took] when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>
> > <quote>
> > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > 8/5/14
> > to
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>
> > George Dance:
> > Let me count the ways:
>
> > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > /Lord of the Flies/.
>
> > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>
> > MMP:
> > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>
> > MMP:
> > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > </q>
> Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Well, that' s the beginning of the record, anyway. To recap, and add the relevant dates:
(1) on Aug. 1, I, PJ Ross showed up and I addressed him as "Piggy";
(2) on Aug. 2, Piggy asked why I called him Piggy, and I explained. Mr. Monkey read my explanation and "laughed out loud.'.
(3) on Aug. 5, Mr. Monkey began calling Piggy "Piggy John-John Ross" (which he says is from /Lord of the Flies/).

But that's not the entire record; we've only just begun. Here's the monkey's next post, also from Aug. 5:
<quote>
Piggy John-John Ross:
<whinesnip>

MMP: And he cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home.
</q>

To be continued. For those who wish to read the whole thread, it can be found here:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ?hl=en

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:45:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:05:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:43:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 11:15:07 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 11:00:32 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:40:13 AM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> >> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:00:20 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 6:00:24 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> >> >> > > > >> >> before I got here.
> >> >> > > > >> >> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> > I, otoh, take the high road
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> >> >> > > > >> >> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> >> >> > > > >> >> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> >> >> > > > >> >> on aapc.
> >> >> > > > >> > Interesting revisionist take on my post, George.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> > Let's reword the above to actually reflect my statement:
> >> >> > > > >> > Childish George was calling PJ Ross (and practically everyone else) barnyard names and similarly childish fare; while Michael Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil at AAPC.
> >> >> > > > >> >> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> >> >> > > > >> >> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> <quote>
> >> >> > > > >> >> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> >> >> > > > >> >> 8/5/14
> >> >> > > > >> >> to
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> > > > >> >> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> George Dance:
> >> >> > > > >> >> Let me count the ways:
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> >> >> > > > >> >> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> >> >> > > > >> >> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> >> >> > > > >> >> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> >> >> > > > >> >> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> >> >> > > > >> >> /Lord of the Flies/.
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> MMP:
> >> >> > > > >> >> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> Piggy John-John Ross:
> >> >> > > > >> >> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> MMP:
> >> >> > > > >> >> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> >> >> > > > >> >> </q>
> >> >> > > > >> > The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies."
> >> >> > > > >> No shit, Lancelot Link.
> >> >> > > > >> > NOTE TO GEORGE: When you make a literary allusion, it helps to have some familiarity with the source.
> >> >> > > > >> Most of us read "Lord of the Flies" in junior high school, little monkey.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names.
> >> >> > > > I doubt G.D. could hardly have missed it...
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Lord Of The Flies: "Piggy's Death"
> >> >> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUudc2Qey8
> >> >> > > He may have gotten it at the time
> >> >> > No doubt G.D. did....
> >> >> I think I remember George Dance referring to the book at some point in the flame war.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > As previously noted, my "Piggy" post was made in response to George's referencing of said book.
> >>
> >> No shit, Lancelot Link.
>
> > If so, why did you just say: "I think I remember George Dance referring to the book at some point in the flame war."
> Again, because I remember more than one discussion of "Lord of the Flies" here.
>
> I'll check the archives when time permits.

What's the difference, Donkey? He referred to it in this discussion.

I quoted from "Lord of the Flies" in response to George's reference.

The only question is: Why did you suddenly decide to repost my quote for "Lord of the Flies"?

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:30:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > > before I got here.
> > > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > I, otoh, take the high road
> >
> > > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > > on aapc.
> >
> > > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > > that MMP [took] when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> >
> > > <quote>
> > > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > > 8/5/14
> > > to
> >
> > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> >
> > > George Dance:
> > > Let me count the ways:
> >
> > > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > > /Lord of the Flies/.
> >
> > > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> >
> > > MMP:
> > > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> >
> > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> >
> > > MMP:
> > > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > > </q>
> > Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> Well, that' s the beginning of the record, anyway. To recap, and add the relevant dates:
> (1) on Aug. 1, I, PJ Ross showed up and I addressed him as "Piggy";
> (2) on Aug. 2, Piggy asked why I called him Piggy, and I explained. Mr. Monkey read my explanation and "laughed out loud.'.
> (3) on Aug. 5, Mr. Monkey began calling Piggy "Piggy John-John Ross" (which he says is from /Lord of the Flies/).

Stop lying, George. I realize that I'm asking the impossible, but you really need to stop.

I never said any such thing.

> But that's not the entire record; we've only just begun. Here's the monkey's next post, also from Aug. 5:
> <quote>
> Piggy John-John Ross:
> <whinesnip>
>
> MMP: And he cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home.
> </q>

Um... that's another literary reference, George.

Hell, I think even our resident Donkey recognizes that one.

> To be continued. For those who wish to read the whole thread, it can be found here:
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ?hl=en

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:30:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > > > before I got here.
> > > > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > I, otoh, take the high road
> > >
> > > > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > > > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > > > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > > > on aapc.
> > >
> > > > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > > > that MMP [took] when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> > >
> > > > <quote>
> > > > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > > > 8/5/14
> > > > to
> > >
> > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> > >
> > > > George Dance:
> > > > Let me count the ways:
> > >
> > > > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > > > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > > > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > > > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > > > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > > > /Lord of the Flies/.
> > >
> > > > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> > >
> > > > MMP:
> > > > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> > >
> > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> > >
> > > > MMP:
> > > > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > > > </q>
> > > Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > Well, that' s the beginning of the record, anyway. To recap, and add the relevant dates:
> > (1) on Aug. 1, I, PJ Ross showed up and I addressed him as "Piggy";
> > (2) on Aug. 2, Piggy asked why I called him Piggy, and I explained. Mr. Monkey read my explanation and "laughed out loud.'.
> > (3) on Aug. 5, Mr. Monkey began calling Piggy "Piggy John-John Ross" (which he says is from /Lord of the Flies/).

> Stop lying, George. I realize that I'm asking the impossible, but you really need to stop.
>

"George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."
(I still doubt your claim that it is a reference to the book.)
> I never said any such thing.

Actually, that's exactly what you claimed after I quoted you using the term "Piggy John-John Ross":
"The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies.""
- and then later, to someone else:
"George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."

> > But that's not the entire record; we've only just begun. Here's the monkey's next post, also from Aug. 5:
> > <quote>
> > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > <whinesnip>
> >
> > MMP: And he cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home.
> > </q>
> Um... that's another literary reference, George.
>
> Hell, I think even our resident Donkey recognizes that one.

So your first and second uses of "Piggy John-John Ross" were allegedly quoted from /Lord of the Fiies, while your third allegedly came from "This little piggy ...". Since I don't remember that name used in either source, and I really don't believe that anyone else does, either, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you for cites.

> > To be continued. For those who wish to read the whole thread, it can be found here:
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ?hl=en

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:47:30 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:30:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> > > > > before I got here.
> > > > > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > I, otoh, take the high road
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> > > > > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> > > > > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> > > > > on aapc.
> > > >
> > > > > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> > > > > that MMP [took] when he found out abouf "Piggy".
> > > >
> > > > > <quote>
> > > > > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> > > > > 8/5/14
> > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > > > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
> > > >
> > > > > George Dance:
> > > > > Let me count the ways:
> > > >
> > > > > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> > > > > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> > > > > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> > > > > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> > > > > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> > > > > /Lord of the Flies/.
> > > >
> > > > > See, it's a perfect name for you.
> > > >
> > > > > MMP:
> > > > > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
> > > >
> > > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > > > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
> > > >
> > > > > MMP:
> > > > > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> > > > > </q>
> > > > Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Well, that' s the beginning of the record, anyway. To recap, and add the relevant dates:
> > > (1) on Aug. 1, I, PJ Ross showed up and I addressed him as "Piggy";
> > > (2) on Aug. 2, Piggy asked why I called him Piggy, and I explained. Mr. Monkey read my explanation and "laughed out loud.'.
> > > (3) on Aug. 5, Mr. Monkey began calling Piggy "Piggy John-John Ross" (which he says is from /Lord of the Flies/).
>
> > Stop lying, George. I realize that I'm asking the impossible, but you really need to stop.
> >
> "George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."
> (I still doubt your claim that it is a reference to the book.)

IIRC it was a quote from the 1963 version of the film.

> > I never said any such thing.
> Actually, that's exactly what you claimed after I quoted you using the term "Piggy John-John Ross":
> "The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies.""
> - and then later, to someone else:
> "George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."

The *quote* ("Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy.") is from the 1963 film version of "Lord of the Flies."

The name "Piggy John-John Ross" is not.

You may recall (although, obviously, you don't) that I had been calling him "Peter John-John Ross." When you began calling him "Piggy," I changed "Peter John-John Ross" to "Piggy John-John Ross."

There is no "John-John" character in either the book or the film.

> > > But that's not the entire record; we've only just begun. Here's the monkey's next post, also from Aug. 5:
> > > <quote>
> > > Piggy John-John Ross:
> > > <whinesnip>
> > >
> > > MMP: And he cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home.
> > > </q>
> > Um... that's another literary reference, George.
> >
> > Hell, I think even our resident Donkey recognizes that one.
> So your first and second uses of "Piggy John-John Ross" were allegedly quoted from /Lord of the Fiies, while your third allegedly came from "This little piggy ...". Since I don't remember that name used in either source, and I really don't believe that anyone else does, either, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you for cites.
>

I hate to call you dense, Dance... but you really are quite the dunce.

As to the name, see above.

Hopefully I've explained it clearly enough for even you to understand.

> > > To be continued. For those who wish to read the whole thread, it can be found here:
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ?hl=en

George Dance wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:30:21 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > George J. Dance wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
>> > > > before I got here.
>> > > > On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > > > I, otoh, take the high road
>> > >
>> > > > Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
>> > > > saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
>> > > > Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
>> > > > on aapc.
>> > >
>> > > > For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
>> > > > that MMP [took] when he found out abouf "Piggy".
>> > >
>> > > > <quote>
>> > > > michaelmalef...@gmail.com
>> > > > 8/5/14
>> > > > to
>> > >
>> > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> > > > Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".
>> > >
>> > > > George Dance:
>> > > > Let me count the ways:
>> > >
>> > > > (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
>> > > > (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
>> > > > (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
>> > > > (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
>> > > > (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
>> > > > /Lord of the Flies/.
>> > >
>> > > > See, it's a perfect name for you.
>> > >
>> > > > MMP:
>> > > > I laughed out loud at that one! :-D
>> > >
>> > > > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> > > > "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."
>> > >
>> > > > MMP:
>> > > > "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
>> > > > </q>
>> > > Good morning George, thanks again for correcting the lies and misrepresentations and for setting the record straight.
>> > >
>> > > HTH and HAND.
>> > Well, that' s the beginning of the record, anyway. To recap, and add the relevant dates:
>> > (1) on Aug. 1, I, PJ Ross showed up and I addressed him as "Piggy";
>> > (2) on Aug. 2, Piggy asked why I called him Piggy, and I explained. Mr. Monkey read my explanation and "laughed out loud.'.
>> > (3) on Aug. 5, Mr. Monkey began calling Piggy "Piggy John-John Ross" (which he says is from /Lord of the Flies/).

>> Stop lying, George. I realize that I'm asking the impossible, but you really need to stop.
>>

> "George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."
> (I still doubt your claim that it is a reference to the book.)
>> I never said any such thing.

> Actually, that's exactly what you claimed after I quoted you using the term "Piggy John-John Ross":
> "The above passages were directly quoted from "Lord of the Flies.""
> - and then later, to someone else:
> "George doesn't appear to have recognized it, since he thinks I was joining him in calling people by childish, barnyard names."

>> > But that's not the entire record; we've only just begun. Here's the monkey's next post, also from Aug. 5:
>> > <quote>
>> > Piggy John-John Ross:
>> > <whinesnip>
>> >
>> > MMP: And he cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home.
>> > </q>
>> Um... that's another literary reference, George.
>>
>> Hell, I think even our resident Donkey recognizes that one.

> So your first and second uses of "Piggy John-John Ross" were allegedly quoted from /Lord of the Fiies, while your third allegedly came from "This little piggy ...". Since I don't remember that name used in either source, and I really don't believe that anyone else does, either, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you for cites.

>> > To be continued. For those who wish to read the whole thread, it can be found here:
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ypjMTZkSb5w/m/BUf_TAino8IJ?hl=en

Good morning, George, well put.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-12-13 10:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > George was calling PJR (and others) barnyard names like "Piggy" long
> before I got here.
> On 2022-12-13 3:59 p.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > I, otoh, take the high road

> Interesting revisionist history: Mean old George was calling poor
> saintly PJ Ross "barnyard names like Piggy", while Michael Monkey
> Pendragon (MMP) was taking the high road and trying to keep things civil
> on aapc.

> For those interested in what really happened, though, here's the road
> that MMP taking "the high road" when he found out abouf "Piggy".

> <quote>
> michaelmalef...@gmail.com
> 8/5/14
> to

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> Remind me of why you call me "Piggy".

> George Dance:
> Let me count the ways:

> (1) You have the grace and manners of a pig.
> (2) You have the writing skills of a pig.
> (3) You like to shit all over newsgroups, and
> (4) You love rolling around in your own shit
> (5) There's also a literary allusion: you remind me the little twerp in
> /Lord of the Flies/.

> See, it's a perfect name for you.

> MMP:
> I laughed out loud at that one! :-D

> Piggy John-John Ross:
> "I don't care as long as you don't call me Piggy like people done before."

> MMP:
> "Then I shall call you Piggy, too. Piggy, Piggy, Piggy."
> </q>

Nailed...!!

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:01:13 PM UTC-6, Will Dockery wrote:
> I think I remember a specific conversation on this, that I haven't looked up in the archives yet.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Not investigation

But something re adjudicating evidence

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