On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:38:23 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:52:25 -0500, shawn
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>Anywhere in the southern portions of the USA would be fine. Basically
>>try and hug the southern border because if you get into Tennessee or
>>Kentucky you will run into snow. Nothing like our northern states but
>>enough that it can be an issue. But
>>Georgia/Alabama/Louisiana/Mississippi/southern
>>Texas/Arizona/NM/California are all going to be free of any large
>>accumulation of snow. There's a wild variation in temps/rainfall and
>>your choice of potential tornadoes, wildfires and earthquakes you can
>>experience depending upon which state you choose.
>
>Ironically enough I once saw snow in a shady area in the mountain pass
>on the highway from LA to Palm Springs - on the Saturday between Good
>Friday and Easter - though I do take your point.
>
>Obviously pretty much anywhere can under exceptional cases have snow -
>Hong Kong once did though the recorded temperature that day was 1C
>(about 33-34F) and that's a lot further south than anywhere in the US
>even Hawaii.
>
>But no question the odds against snow are much better in the places
>you cite. (Haven't seen all that much of the Deep South but have seen
>NC, GA and FL - and driven the highway from Orlando to Miami)

Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
when it is needed.

That's one nice thing about living down here. You actually get all
four seasons without any one getting out of control. Okay, I'll grant
you that summers can get a bit rough with both high temps in the 90s
(Fahrenheit) and high humidity in the 90% level. That's why God helped
man create air conditioning so one doesn't need to deal with the
heat/humidity 24x7.

On 11/23/2023 12:38 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:52:25 -0500, shawn
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> Anywhere in the southern portions of the USA would be fine. Basically
>> try and hug the southern border because if you get into Tennessee or
>> Kentucky you will run into snow. Nothing like our northern states but
>> enough that it can be an issue. But
>> Georgia/Alabama/Louisiana/Mississippi/southern
>> Texas/Arizona/NM/California are all going to be free of any large
>> accumulation of snow. There's a wild variation in temps/rainfall and
>> your choice of potential tornadoes, wildfires and earthquakes you can
>> experience depending upon which state you choose.
>
> Ironically enough I once saw snow in a shady area in the mountain pass
> on the highway from LA to Palm Springs - on the Saturday between Good
> Friday and Easter - though I do take your point.
>
> Obviously pretty much anywhere can under exceptional cases have snow -
> Hong Kong once did though the recorded temperature that day was 1C
> (about 33-34F) and that's a lot further south than anywhere in the US
> even Hawaii.

The mountains east of LA will get snow all winter, so it's very likely
to see some left over patches in the spring. There's even a ski area up
there.
>
> But no question the odds against snow are much better in the places
> you cite. (Haven't seen all that much of the Deep South but have seen
> NC, GA and FL - and driven the highway from Orlando to Miami)
>

On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:49:45 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
>every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
>few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
>of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
>issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
>most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
>place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
>salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
>when it is needed.

Our local municipality regularly deposit brine on the roadways (at
least major bus routes like the one Ilive on) when the forecast goes
4-5 degrees above freezing. (Which given I live roughly 600-700 feet
above sea level while the airport where the weather office is is at
sea level suits me just fine)

Of course I also remember 2008 when the local bus line decided our
neighborhood wouldn't be served during the worst of the snowstorm
which isn't unreasonable - but what WAS unreasonable is that they
didn't notify the neighborhood either by signage, the radio or their
website....so my kids got the "privilege" of walking to the bus stop
that normally would take them downtown, standing at the stop for more
than an hour for a bus that wasn't coming and getting to wait on hold
for 20+ minutes calling the bus line to NOT find out (because nobody
answered the phone - just the answering machine messages) what had
happened.....

And I live in Vancouver which Rhino will attest is one of the milder -
if hillier - cities in Canada.

>That's one nice thing about living down here. You actually get all
>four seasons without any one getting out of control. Okay, I'll grant
>you that summers can get a bit rough with both high temps in the 90s
>(Fahrenheit) and high humidity in the 90% level. That's why God helped
>man create air conditioning so one doesn't need to deal with the
>heat/humidity 24x7.

In article <omj2mi97de115nuq743ofn2n2otjcpj5cj@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:49:45 -0500, shawn
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
> >every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
> >few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
> >of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
> >issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
> >most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
> >place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
> >salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
> >when it is needed.
>
> Our local municipality regularly deposit brine on the roadways

Which is just great for the undercarriage of your vehicle. There's a
reason southern cars last a lot longer on average than northern cars.

On 11/24/2023 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <omj2mi97de115nuq743ofn2n2otjcpj5cj@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:49:45 -0500, shawn
>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
>>> every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
>>> few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
>>> of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
>>> issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
>>> most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
>>> place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
>>> salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
>>> when it is needed.
>>
>> Our local municipality regularly deposit brine on the roadways
>
> Which is just great for the undercarriage of your vehicle. There's a
> reason southern cars last a lot longer on average than northern cars.
>

Northern cars in the midwest and NE. Here in the NW, they use sand on
the roads, not slat.

On 2023-11-25 05:10:08 +0000, suzeeq said:
> On 11/24/2023 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <omj2mi97de115nuq743ofn2n2otjcpj5cj@4ax.com>,
>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:49:45 -0500, shawn
>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
>>>> every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
>>>> few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
>>>> of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
>>>> issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
>>>> most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
>>>> place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
>>>> salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
>>>> when it is needed.
>>>
>>> Our local municipality regularly deposit brine on the roadways
>>
>> Which is just great for the undercarriage of your vehicle. There's a
>> reason southern cars last a lot longer on average than northern cars.
>
> Northern cars in the midwest and NE. Here in the NW, they use sand on
> the roads, not slat.

Sand is cheaper, easier, and quieter than paving the roads with lots of
wooden / metal slats. ;-)

If it comes from ocean / beach sources, the sand may well contain some
salt as well.

On 11/24/2023 9:46 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2023-11-25 05:10:08 +0000, suzeeq said:
>> On 11/24/2023 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <omj2mi97de115nuq743ofn2n2otjcpj5cj@4ax.com>,
>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:49:45 -0500, shawn
>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, anywhere might get snow. Here in the Atlanta area we get snow
>>>>> every year but it's only a light dusting. Often won't even stick for a
>>>>> few hours. Thinking back over the past three decades I can only think
>>>>> of maybe three times when we had enough snow on the ground to be an
>>>>> issue when driving around. Likely the snow wouldn't be an issue in
>>>>> most of Canada but since we get so little snow there's no equipment in
>>>>> place designed to clean up the snow. The best they can do is spread
>>>>> salt to try and keep any ice under control on those rare occasions
>>>>> when it is needed.
>>>>
>>>> Our local municipality regularly deposit brine on the roadways
>>>
>>> Which is just great for the undercarriage of your vehicle. There's a
>>> reason southern cars last a lot longer on average than northern cars.
>>
>> Northern cars in the midwest and NE. Here in the NW, they use sand on
>> the roads, not slat.
>
> Sand is cheaper, easier, and quieter than paving the roads with lots of
> wooden / metal slats.  ;-)
>
>
> If it comes from ocean / beach sources, the sand may well contain some
> salt as well.
>

Idaho isn't that close to the ocean, we just dig it out of the ground
here. Same in E WA, and they don't need it that much in W Wa.