On 4/5/24 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do. He
>>>>>>> refuses
>>>>>>> to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly calling for
>>>>>>> political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an American president must
>>>>>>> do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x270/OWNB
>>>>>>> 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>
>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to deliberately
>>>>>> give a false impression.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>
>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with Trump
>>> in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>
>>> Okay, Jan.
>>
>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>
> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>
> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and
> she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands
> of other leftists.
>
>

Was she charged? She was investigated, right?
Did they charge her?

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"trotsky" wrote:

>No calls for violence from Democrats.

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"trotsky" wrote:
>On 4/4/24 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> "trotsky" wrote:
>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do. He
>>>> refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>
>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>
>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly calling
>>>> for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an American president
>>>> must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>
>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x270/OWNB2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>
>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to deliberately
>>> give a false impression.
>>>
>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>
>> LOL!
>
>Prove it!

Selective memory noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

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fact? Go ahead... go and find something I stated as fact that you
don't think I can back up."
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In article <uv0vrf$3i52d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 4/5/24 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
> >>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
> >>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
> >>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
> >>>>>>> 0/OWNB2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
> >>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LOL!
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
> >>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
> >>>
> >>> Okay, Jan.
> >>
> >> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
> >
> > No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
> > Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
> > cut' so he can dismiss them.
> >
> > And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
> > and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
> > thousands of other leftists.

> Was she charged? She was investigated, right?
> Did they charge her?

She got the same treatment by law enforcement that all people get when
they make those kinds of threats. Her attorneys negotiated an agreement
with the U.S. Attorney for no prosecution in exchange for her
cooperation with the Secret Service.

A buddy of mine did the interview of her in New York. She was reportedly
a blubbering mess, crying about how she didn't mean it and to please not
send her to jail, even though that wasn't even a possibility given the
agreement her attorneys worked out for her.

Sounds an awful lot like my interview of Kathy Griffin in L.A. The woman
was a trembling mess. Griffin has completely ret-conned the entire thing
for her comedy act, where she paints herself as a crusading hero and
lies about every single thing that happened that day.

On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!
>
>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>
>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>
>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>
>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>
>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>
> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
> leftists.
>
> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
> every president.
>

Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.

> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
> By Reuters

> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned protest-related violence from the left and the right
> Camille Caldera
> USA TODAY

> Biden Condemns Violence On Left And Right ‘Unequivocally,’ Challenges Trump To Do Same
> Andrew Solender
> Forbes

> Trump and allies keep accusing Biden of not condemning violence — shortly after Biden condemns violence
> On Sunday at 4:13 p.m. Eastern time, Joe Biden issued a broad denunciation of the violence that has occurred at racial justice demonstrations across the country, saying, “I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right.”
> Washington Post

Please, stop... you're fucking killin' me!

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On 4/7/24 12:42 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/6/2024 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>   moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>    On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>      In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP
>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>      On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>
>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>
>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was
>>>> just one.
>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're
>>>> 'deceptively
>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>
>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed
>>>> leftist
>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of
>>>> hundreds of
>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>
>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>
>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>> leftists.
>>
>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>> every president.
>
> Hint: no one will take seriously Madonna's position on *anything*.
>
> Meanwhile, though I'm not Biden's apologist, I'll point out that
> "denouncing political violence" is different from denouncing *calls* for
> it ...which would be a full-time job.
>

Biden denounces violence all the time pig. I just gave examples.
I could do it all day.

>
> Joe Biden @JoeBiden (X)
>
> The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable. Shooting in the streets of a great American city is unacceptable.
> I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same.

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On 4/8/24 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uv0vrf$3i52d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/24 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>
>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>
>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>
>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>> thousands of other leftists.
>
>> Was she charged? She was investigated, right?
>> Did they charge her?
>
> She got the same treatment by law enforcement that all people get when
> they make those kinds of threats. Her attorneys negotiated an agreement
> with the U.S. Attorney for no prosecution in exchange for her
> cooperation with the Secret Service.
>
> A buddy of mine did the interview of her in New York. She was reportedly
> a blubbering mess, crying about how she didn't mean it and to please not
> send her to jail, even though that wasn't even a possibility given the
> agreement her attorneys worked out for her.
>
> Sounds an awful lot like my interview of Kathy Griffin in L.A. The woman
> was a trembling mess. Griffin has completely ret-conned the entire thing
> for her comedy act, where she paints herself as a crusading hero and
> lies about every single thing that happened that day.
>

Sure Jan. But they didn't charge her, did they?

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On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>
>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>
>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>
>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>
>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>
>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>> leftists.
>>
>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>> every president.
>>
> Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.

He hasn't condemned the people I cited.

>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests

Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
Biden has condemned them?

Wow. Baby steps, I guess.

Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?

On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:56:27 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/8/24 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <uv0vrf$3i52d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/5/24 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>
>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>
>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>
>>> Was she charged? She was investigated, right?
>>> Did they charge her?
>>
>> She got the same treatment by law enforcement that all people get when
>> they make those kinds of threats. Her attorneys negotiated an agreement
>> with the U.S. Attorney for no prosecution in exchange for her
>> cooperation with the Secret Service.
>>
>> A buddy of mine did the interview of her in New York. She was reportedly
>> a blubbering mess, crying about how she didn't mean it and to please not
>> send her to jail, even though that wasn't even a possibility given the
>> agreement her attorneys worked out for her.
>>
>> Sounds an awful lot like my interview of Kathy Griffin in L.A. The woman
>> was a trembling mess. Griffin has completely ret-conned the entire thing
>> for her comedy act, where she paints herself as a crusading hero and
>> lies about every single thing that happened that day.
>
> But they didn't charge her, did they?

What do charges have to do with whether a person has called for political
violence?

On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>>
>>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>>
>>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>>> leftists.
>>>
>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>> every president.
>>>
>> Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.
>
> He hasn't condemned the people I cited.
>
>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>
> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
> Biden has condemned them?
>
> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>
> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>
>

It exists as a concept, but not as an organization. You've been told
this many, many times before.

One might almost say for over a decade.

--
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On 4/9/24 12:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:56:27 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/24 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <uv0vrf$3i52d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/5/24 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're 'deceptively
>>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>
>>>> Was she charged? She was investigated, right?
>>>> Did they charge her?
>>>
>>> She got the same treatment by law enforcement that all people get when
>>> they make those kinds of threats. Her attorneys negotiated an agreement
>>> with the U.S. Attorney for no prosecution in exchange for her
>>> cooperation with the Secret Service.
>>>
>>> A buddy of mine did the interview of her in New York. She was reportedly
>>> a blubbering mess, crying about how she didn't mean it and to please not
>>> send her to jail, even though that wasn't even a possibility given the
>>> agreement her attorneys worked out for her.
>>>
>>> Sounds an awful lot like my interview of Kathy Griffin in L.A. The woman
>>> was a trembling mess. Griffin has completely ret-conned the entire thing
>>> for her comedy act, where she paints herself as a crusading hero and
>>> lies about every single thing that happened that day.
>>
>> But they didn't charge her, did they?
>
> What do charges have to do with whether a person has called for political
> violence?
>
>

Well, people who have actually committed crimes are usually charged.
Was she?

Or did they find out nothing behind it, outside of a momentary lapse of
decorum?

--
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On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're
>>>>>> 'deceptively
>>>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>>>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>>>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>>>> leftists.
>>>>
>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>> every president.
>>>>
>>> Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.
>>
>> He hasn't condemned the people I cited.
>>
>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>
>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>> Biden has condemned them?
>>
>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>
>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>
> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.

LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal courthouse
every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?

On 4/9/2024 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're
>>>>>>> 'deceptively
>>>>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>>>>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>>>>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>>>>> leftists.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>> every president.
>>>>>
>>>> Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.
>>>
>>> He hasn't condemned the people I cited.
>>>
>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>
>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>
>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>
>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>
>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>
> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal courthouse
> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?

Why is a concept less motivating than membership in an organization?

On 4/9/24 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done what an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various sources to
>>>>>>>>>>>> deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House with
>>>>>>>>> Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna was just one.
>>>>>>> Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're
>>>>>>> 'deceptively
>>>>>>> cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>>>> and she was calling for political violence before a rally of hundreds of
>>>>>>> thousands of other leftists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one made of vapor?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And how is it
>>>>> made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was calling for
>>>>> political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of other
>>>>> leftists.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>> every president.
>>>>>
>>>> Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.
>>>
>>> He hasn't condemned the people I cited.
>>>
>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>
>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>
>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>
>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>
>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>
> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal courthouse
> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>
>

Well, since concepts were held by people, I guess you could say that.

--
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On 4/9/24 10:39 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/9/2024 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>   On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>   On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>     In article
>>>>>> <17c3c2f773256e50$363$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>>>       moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>     On 4/5/2024 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>     On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:36:01 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>> <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>        On Apr 4, 2024 at 5:16:53 PM PDT, "FPP"
>>>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>        On 4/4/24 3:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>          In article <uum8o0$ln18$2@dont-email.me>, FPP
>>>>>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>          wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          On 4/3/24 11:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     BIDEN: Donald Trump won't do what an American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president must do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     He refuses to denounce political violence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1775318318376710399?s=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Here's two-and-a-half minutes straight of Democrats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     calling for political violence. Why hasn't Biden done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     American president must do? Why hasn't he denounced them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/480x27
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     0/OWNB 2yI8qp6n29bR.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Deceptively cut video taking snippets of various
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     deliberately give a false impression.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     No calls for violence from Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>     LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>     Yep, you sure are a joke.
>>>>>>>>>>     Sure, because Madonna saying she wants to blow up the
>>>>>>>>>> White House with
>>>>>>>>>>     Trump in it is 'deceptively cut'.
>>>>>>>>>>     Okay, Jan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     That's your example of a "call for violence"? Madonna???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     No, I provided literally dozens of examples of which Madonna
>>>>>>>> was just one.
>>>>>>>>     Effa can't deny them or spin them, so he just pretends they're
>>>>>>>> 'deceptively
>>>>>>>>     cut' so he can dismiss them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     And what does it matter if it's Madonna? She's a
>>>>>>>> self-proclaimed leftist
>>>>>>>>     and she was calling for political violence before a rally of
>>>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>>>>     thousands of other leftists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Of "literally dozens of examples", why would you pick one
>>>>>>> made of vapor?
>>>>>>     I didn't just pick one. I provided 2 1/2 minutes of them. And
>>>>>> how is it
>>>>>>     made of vapor? She's a self-proclaimed leftist and she was
>>>>>> calling for
>>>>>>     political violence before a rally of hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>     leftists.
>>>>>>     And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any
>>>>>> of them,
>>>>>>     since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the
>>>>>> duty of
>>>>>>     every president.
>>>>>   Duuuuhhhhh. Does it all the time.
>>>>   He hasn't condemned the people I cited.
>>>>>>     Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>>   Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>>>> and that
>>>>   Biden has condemned them?
>>>>   Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>>   Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>
>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>> courthouse
>> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>
> Why is a concept less motivating than membership in an organization?
>
>

Especially since Antifa isn't an organization. Thanny has been told
this and shown proof for years.

--
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>>>>>. . .

>>>>>And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>>since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>every president.

[Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests

>>>Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>>Biden has condemned them?

>>>Wow. Baby steps, I guess.

>>>Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?

>>It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.

>LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal courthouse
>every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?

I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting. The
fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.

It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
is all that's necessary to be an organization.

In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
> >>>>>. . .
>
> >>>>>And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
> >>>>>since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
> >>>>>every president.
>
> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
> >>>>>Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>
> >>>Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
> >>>Biden has condemned them?
>
> >>>Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>
> >>>Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>
> >>It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>
> >LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
> >courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
> >was it?
>
> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.

Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.

He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.

> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>
> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
> is all that's necessary to be an organization.

On 4/14/2024 11:42 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>>>>> . . .
>
>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>> every president.
>
> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>
>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>
>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>
>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>
>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>
>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal courthouse
>> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>
> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting. The
> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>
> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
> is all that's necessary to be an organization.

So, a lynch mob is an organization. Start spreading the noose...

On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> . . .
>>
>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>>> every president.
>>
>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>
>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>
>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>
>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>
>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>
>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>> courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
>>> was it?
>>
>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.
>
> Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
> Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
>
> He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.
>
>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>
>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.

Two dumbfucks don't make a right.

From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two ignorant
fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.

> Antifa has seen a steady increase in media attention ever since former President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. Republicans often portray antifa as a highly organized group of "terrorists" worthy of national watch lists. Some conspiracy theorists falsely blamed antifa for the January 6 Capitol riots that led to five deaths.
> Right-wing media blames antifa members for rioting and looting. Democrats have also condemned such violence, but many on the left say the rhetoric about antifa is greatly exaggerated, and that it's less of an organized movement than just something of "an idea."
> But much of what politicians say about antifa isn't quite true. Here's what antifa is, what it isn't, and what you need to know.
> Anti, anti, anti...
> Antifa is not a highly organized movement, nor is it merely an idea. Antifa is a loose affiliation of local activists scattered across the United States and a few other countries.
> The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes.

Link here... but be warned, it downloads a pdf.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20210512/112524/HHRG-117-GO00-20210512-SD006.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjPj6TQ5sOFAxUyjYkEHZOpC_wQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1KOG9CFyalfulaaumX4H7H

> Antifa has no official national leadership, though followers have organized themselves into small, local cells that sometimes coordinate with other movements, such as Black Lives Matter. Some self-described antifa adherents have organized to confront Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys, and other far-right groups during public demonstrations. Some of those rallies have devolved into violence.

> Some antifa adherents keep a very low profile, while other local groups venture to give themselves a more public profile with a name and a website. One of the oldest such groups appears to be Rose City Antifa, which says it was founded in Portland, Oregon, in 2007. According to its website, its main focus is "any work that prevents fascist organizing, and when that is not possible, provides consequences to fascist organizers. This is supported by researching and tracking fascist organizations."

--
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Gracie, age 6.
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On 4/14/24 3:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/14/2024 11:42 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> . . .
>>
>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of
>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>>> every president.
>>
>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>
>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>>>>> and that
>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>
>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>
>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>
>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>
>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>> courthouse
>>> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>>
>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting. The
>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>
>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.
>
> So, a lynch mob is an organization.  Start spreading the noose...
>

All bullshit, pig.

> Antifa has earned its reputation for sporadic violence. But many other rumors about antifa have been spun from whole cloth, sometimes by people later identified as right-wing extremists. In June 2020, Twitter shut down multiple fake antifa accounts that were inciting violence against white suburbs; subsequent investigations tracked the accounts to Identity Evropa, a white supremacist organization.

> "When we looked at the data around the insurrection, we saw literally millions of pro-Trump [internet] posts that repeated the phrase 'antifa,'" said CBSN tech reporter Dan Patterson. " [But] when we look at the data, this boogeyman is nonexistent."

Antifa is the boogeyman to the right.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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> On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
>>   "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>
>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any
>>>>>>>> of them,
>>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the
>>>>>>>> duty of
>>>>>>>> every president.
>>>
>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>
>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>>>>>> and that
>>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>
>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>
>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>>
>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>>> courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
>>>> was it?
>>>
>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.
>>
>> Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
>> Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
>>
>> He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.
>>
>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>>
>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.

Sorry... but when your "organization" is less organized that the Racoon
Lodge and the Water Buffalo Lodge combined - it isn't an organization.

Antifa is characterized by what it's against, not what it's for. Lots of
us hate the Yankees, but we aren't organized.

And, yes, you have to be organized to be an organization. It's FUCKING
LITERALLY IN THE FUCKING WORD!

For fuck's sake, words have MEANINGS.

> organization noun
> or·​ga·​ni·​za·​tion ˌȯr-gə-nə-ˈzā-shən
> : the act or process of organizing or of being organized

> : the condition or manner of being organized
> a group with a high degree of organization

> : ASSOCIATION, SOCIETY
> : an administrative and functional structure (such as a business or a political party)

> adjective
> : characterized by complete conformity to the standards and requirements of an organization.

None of that fits Antifa. They're about what they're against, not what
they're for. They aren't an organization per any definition of the word.

--
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Gracie, age 6.
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On 4/15/24 3:36 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 4/14/24 3:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 4/14/2024 11:42 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>
>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any
>>>>>>>> of them,
>>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the
>>>>>>>> duty of
>>>>>>>> every president.
>>>
>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>
>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>>>>>> and that
>>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>
>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>
>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>>
>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>>> courthouse
>>>> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>>>
>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting. The
>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>>
>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.
>>
>> So, a lynch mob is an organization.  Start spreading the noose...
>>
>
>
> All bullshit, pig.
>
>> Antifa has earned its reputation for sporadic violence. But many other
>> rumors about antifa have been spun from whole cloth, sometimes by
>> people later identified as right-wing extremists. In June 2020,
>> Twitter shut down multiple fake antifa accounts that were inciting
>> violence against white suburbs; subsequent investigations tracked the
>> accounts to Identity Evropa, a white supremacist organization.
>
>> "When we looked at the data around the insurrection, we saw literally
>> millions of pro-Trump [internet] posts that repeated the phrase
>> 'antifa,'" said CBSN tech reporter Dan Patterson. " [But] when we look
>> at the data, this boogeyman is nonexistent."
>
> Antifa is the boogeyman to the right.

It's all the same shit over and over again. "Fauci is a criminal."
"Vaccines will kill you." "Hunter Biden has too big a penis." Ad nauseum.

On 4/15/24 5:35 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 4/15/24 3:36 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 4/14/24 3:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2024 11:42 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any
>>>>>>>>> of them,
>>>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the
>>>>>>>>> duty of
>>>>>>>>> every president.
>>>>
>>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>>>>>>> and that
>>>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>>
>>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>>>
>>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>>>> courthouse
>>>>> every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love, was it?
>>>>
>>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a
>>>> body
>>>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.
>>>> The
>>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization,
>>>> even
>>>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or
>>>> unincorporated
>>>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>>>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>>>
>>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common
>>>> purpose
>>>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.
>>>
>>> So, a lynch mob is an organization.  Start spreading the noose...
>>>
>>
>>
>> All bullshit, pig.
>>
>>> Antifa has earned its reputation for sporadic violence. But many
>>> other rumors about antifa have been spun from whole cloth, sometimes
>>> by people later identified as right-wing extremists. In June 2020,
>>> Twitter shut down multiple fake antifa accounts that were inciting
>>> violence against white suburbs; subsequent investigations tracked the
>>> accounts to Identity Evropa, a white supremacist organization.
>>
>>> "When we looked at the data around the insurrection, we saw literally
>>> millions of pro-Trump [internet] posts that repeated the phrase
>>> 'antifa,'" said CBSN tech reporter Dan Patterson. " [But] when we
>>> look at the data, this boogeyman is nonexistent."
>>
>> Antifa is the boogeyman to the right.
>
>
> It's all the same shit over and over again.  "Fauci is a criminal."
> "Vaccines will kill you."  "Hunter Biden has too big a penis."  Ad nauseum.
>

One of those is actually correct...

--
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Gracie, age 6.
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On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>
>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
>>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>>>> every president.
>>>
>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>
>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
>>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>
>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>
>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>>
>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>>> courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
>>>> was it?
>>>
>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.
>>
>> Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
>> Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
>>
>> He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.
>>
>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>>
>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.
>
> Two dumbfucks don't make a right.
>
> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two ignorant
> fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.

Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any
>of them,
>>>>>>>>> since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
>>>>>>>>> every president.
>>>>
>>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
>>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
>and that
>>>>>>> Biden has condemned them?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
>>>>
>>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
>>>>
>>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
>>>>> courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
>>>>> was it?
>>>>
>>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
>>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
>>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
>>>> that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.
>>>
>>> Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
>>> Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
>>>
>>> He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.
>>>
>>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
>>>> without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
>>>> society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
>>>> together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
>>>>
>>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
>>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
>>>> is all that's necessary to be an organization.
>>
>> Two dumbfucks don't make a right.
>>
>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two ignorant
>> fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>
>Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?

On any date before March 4, 1789.