On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or
>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>>>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>>>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>
>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>
>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear line,
>>> yes
>>> he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>
>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting troons
>>> as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement opportunity)
>>> that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>
>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>
> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are indeed
> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and aren't
> "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>
> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated, and
> Miss America?

And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
sensationalism. Yes, highlighting trans people in ads certainly
marginalizes them ...as freaks. You'll know we're getting past that
when we stop noticing (...like we're gradually getting to with blacks).

moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or
>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>>>>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>>>>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>
>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>
>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear line,
>>>> yes
>>>> he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>
>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting troons
>>>> as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement opportunity)
>>>> that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>
>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>
>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are indeed
>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and aren't
>> "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>>
>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated, and
>> Miss America?
>
> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
> sensationalism.

So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately dismiss
them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
game with you people, isn't it?

On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>>>>>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>>>>>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>
>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear line,
>>>>> yes
>>>>> he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting troons
>>>>> as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement opportunity)
>>>>> that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>
>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>
>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are indeed
>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and aren't
>>> "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>>>
>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated, and
>>> Miss America?
>>
>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>> sensationalism.
>
> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately dismiss
> them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
> game with you people, isn't it?

Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch. E.g., I
doubt you'll see many trannies on a box of Wheaties, or as an airbrushed
Playmate Of the Month (if those still exist).

On 4/23/24 8:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>>>>>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>>>>>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>
>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear line,
>>>>> yes
>>>>> he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting troons
>>>>> as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement opportunity)
>>>>> that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>
>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>
>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are indeed
>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and aren't
>>> "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>>>
>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated, and
>>> Miss America?
>>
>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>> sensationalism.
>
> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for,

You make it sound like it was a monumental undertaking you fucking pansy.

you immediately dismiss
> them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
> game with you people, isn't it?

On 4/23/24 2:14 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>   On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>   On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>     In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP
>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>     On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>     In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP
>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>     In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP
>>>>>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     1787.  You know... that thing that you took an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>     about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one
>>>>>>>>>>>> takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>>>     defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it
>>>>>>>>>> of all of its
>>>>>>>>>>     humor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>     Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your
>>>>>>>>> fellow man.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite
>>>>>>>> or anything.
>>>>>>>     There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling
>>>>>>> assholes like
>>>>>>>     you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>>     There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's
>>>>>> society. They're
>>>>>>     embraced and protected at every level of government. Major
>>>>>> corporations
>>>>>>     across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having
>>>>>> Troon Day
>>>>>>     at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor
>>>>>> troons
>>>>>>     over the privacy rights of real women, and which force
>>>>>> everyone from
>>>>>>     high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to
>>>>>> allow them to
>>>>>>     compete against real women. Laws are being passed to
>>>>>> criminalize refusal
>>>>>>     to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being
>>>>>> passed to
>>>>>>     take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on
>>>>>> board with
>>>>>>     trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and
>>>>>> TV shows.
>>>>>>     There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that.
>>>>>> If anyone's
>>>>>>     marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>>>>>> private spaces,
>>>>>>     accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes
>>>>>> in dresses
>>>>>>     are usurping.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>>>>> distance of
>>>>>   mainstream.  If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are
>>>>> indeed
>>>>>   'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>> commercialization...
>>>>
>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>>
>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>>
>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>
>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>
>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>> line, yes
>> he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>
>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>> troons
>> as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>> opportunity)
>> that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>
> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.

What if you're marketing novelty briefs, like with Trump's face on them
or some shit?

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:55:17 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or anything.
>>>>
>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>> are usurping.
>>>
>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>
>>
>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>
>>
>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>
>>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>
>People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>

If the role is intentended for a woman but given to a man claiming to
be a woman, the woman has been replaced.

Of course targeting any job based on sex is SUPPOSED to be illegal
anyway.

On 4/24/2024 7:46 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:55:17 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
>>>>>>>>>>> defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>
>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting distance of
>>>> mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans people are indeed
>>>> 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-trans-model-1235060514/
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-222654486.html
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holiday-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>
>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>
>
> If the role is intended for a woman but given to a man claiming to
> be a woman, the woman has been replaced.

Yes, if it reflects a new and ongoing policy.

> Of course targeting any job based on sex is SUPPOSED to be illegal
> anyway.

I doubt Maidenform gets its models from the YMCA.

In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
> >>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
> >>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and endorsements
> >>>>>>>>> the dudes in dresses are usurping.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
> >>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
> >>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
> >>>>>>>> commercialization...

> >>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan
> >>>>>>> -mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/

> >>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-tr
> >>>>>>> ans-model-1235060514/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs

> >>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-wo
> >>>>>>> man-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-
> >>>>>>> 222654486.html

> >>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-
> >>>>>>> shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891

> >>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holida
> >>>>>>> y-video-series-trnd/index.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
> >>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
> >>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
> >>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
> >>>>> Anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
> >>>
> >>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
> >>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and
> >>> aren't "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
> >>>
> >>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated,
> >>> and Miss America?
> >>
> >> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
> >> sensationalism.
> >
> > So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately dismiss
> > them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
> > game with you people, isn't it?
>
> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.

Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
to rep them.

As I said, rigged game.

On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and endorsements
>>>>>>>>>>> the dudes in dresses are usurping.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
>>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
>
>>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan
>>>>>>>>> -mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>
>>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-tr
>>>>>>>>> ans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-wo
>>>>>>>>> man-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-
>>>>>>>>> 222654486.html
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-
>>>>>>>>> shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holida
>>>>>>>>> y-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
>>>>>>> Anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
>>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and
>>>>> aren't "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>>>>>
>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated,
>>>>> and Miss America?
>>>>
>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>> sensationalism.
>>>
>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately dismiss
>>> them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
>>> game with you people, isn't it?
>>
>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>
> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
> to rep them.
>
> As I said, rigged game.

Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
*trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.

In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
> > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
> >>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> endorsements the dudes in dresses are usurping.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
> >>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
> >>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
> >>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
> >
> >>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dyl
> >>>>>>>>> an-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
> >
> >>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-
> >>>>>>>>> trans-model-1235060514/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
> >
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-
> >>>>>>>>> woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angr
> >>>>>>>>> y-222654486.html
> >
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-ho
> >>>>>>>>> w-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
> >
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holi
> >>>>>>>>> day-video-series-trnd/index.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
> >>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
> >>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
> >>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
> >>>>>>> Anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
> >>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
> >>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
> >>>>> mainstream".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
> >>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
> >>>>
> >>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
> >>>> sensationalism.
> >>>
> >>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
> >>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
> >>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
> >>
> >> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
> >> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
> >
> > Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
> > collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
> > going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
> > to rep them.
> >
> > As I said, rigged game.
>
> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.

Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> > In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>> > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
>> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>> >>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and
>> >>>>>>>>>>> endorsements the dudes in dresses are usurping.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>> >>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
>> >>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>> >>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dyl
>> >>>>>>>>> an-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-
>> >>>>>>>>> trans-model-1235060514/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-
>> >>>>>>>>>
>woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angr
>> >>>>>>>>> y-222654486.html
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-ho
>> >>>>>>>>> w-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holi
>> >>>>>>>>> day-video-series-trnd/index.html
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>> >>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>> >>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>> >>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
>> >>>>>>> Anything.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
>> >>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>> >>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>> >>>>> mainstream".
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>> >>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>> >>>> sensationalism.
>> >>>
>> >>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>> >>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>> >>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>> >>
>> >> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>> >> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>> >
>> > Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>> > collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>> > going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>> > to rep them.
>> >
>> > As I said, rigged game.
>>
>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>
>Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?

Literally, right? In the case of rapes and molestations?

On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsements the dudes in dresses are usurping.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>>>>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
>>>>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dyl
>>>>>>>>>>> an-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-
>>>>>>>>>>> trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-
>>>>>>>>>>> woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angr
>>>>>>>>>>> y-222654486.html
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-ho
>>>>>>>>>>> w-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holi
>>>>>>>>>>> day-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>>>>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>>>>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>>>>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
>>>>>>>>> Anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
>>>>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>
>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>> to rep them.
>>>
>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>
>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>
> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?

Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.

In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
> > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
> >>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
> >>>>>>>>> to a woman.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
> >>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
> >>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
> >>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people
> >>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
> >>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
> >>>>>>> mainstream".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
> >>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
> >>>>>> sensationalism.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
> >>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
> >>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
> >>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
> >>>
> >>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
> >>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
> >>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
> >>> to rep them.
> >>>
> >>> As I said, rigged game.
> >>
> >> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
> >> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
> >> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
> >> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
> >
> > Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
> > while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>
> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.

All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

On 4/24/2024 6:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
>>>>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
>>>>>>>>>>> to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
>>>>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
>>>>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people
>>>>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>>>> to rep them.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>>>
>>>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>>>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>>>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>>>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>
>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>
> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

The antecedents to your respective "them"s aren't clear to me...

On 4/24/24 12:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and endorsements
>>>>>>>>>>> the dudes in dresses are usurping.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
>>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
>
>>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dylan
>>>>>>>>> -mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>
>>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-tr
>>>>>>>>> ans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-wo
>>>>>>>>> man-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angry-
>>>>>>>>> 222654486.html
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-how-
>>>>>>>>> shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holida
>>>>>>>>> y-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
>>>>>>> Anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
>>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for commercialization" and
>>>>> aren't "within shouting distance of the mainstream".
>>>>>
>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated,
>>>>> and Miss America?
>>>>
>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>> sensationalism.
>>>
>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately dismiss
>>> them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's always a rigged
>>> game with you people, isn't it?
>>
>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>
> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
> to rep them.
>
> As I said, rigged game.

So you're saying we should return to the values of 50s when blacks and
women knew their places? I guess you really are that far gone. Full
MAGA. And yet you don't even have the fucking balls to mention the name
"Trump." That's just fucking weird.

On 4/24/24 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> private spaces, accolades, championships, records, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsements the dudes in dresses are usurping.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite any "usurped endorsement" that's within shouting
>>>>>>>>>>>> distance of mainstream. If you can't, maybe it's because trans
>>>>>>>>>>>> people are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>>>>> commercialization...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/off-topic-5/trans-tiktoker-dyl
>>>>>>>>>>> an-mulvaney-becomes-nike-women-b-2299910/
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://wwd.com/fashion-news/intimates/victorias-secret-hires-black-
>>>>>>>>>>> trans-model-1235060514/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxDNXXyHKs
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/is-adidas-woke-ad-featuring-a-trans-
>>>>>>>>>>> woman-is-playing-on-repeat-during-march-madness-its-making-people-angr
>>>>>>>>>>> y-222654486.html
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dad-shows-transgender-son-ho
>>>>>>>>>>> w-shave-viral-gillette-ad-n1010891
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/entertainment/pantene-trangender-holi
>>>>>>>>>>> day-video-series-trnd/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HigxpMGxkZg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's sportswear
>>>>>>>>> line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been selecting
>>>>>>>>> troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and subsequent endorsement
>>>>>>>>> opportunity) that rightly belongs to a woman if the title is "Miss"
>>>>>>>>> Anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people are
>>>>>>> indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>
>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>> to rep them.
>>>
>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>
>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>
> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?

And the "real women" are all heterosexual like they "were in the 50s"
amirite? Along with being full MAGA is being full horseshit I guess.

On 4/24/24 5:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
>>>>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
>>>>>>>>>>> to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
>>>>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
>>>>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people
>>>>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>>>> to rep them.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>>>
>>>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>>>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>>>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>>>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>
>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>
> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

That brings up the question: who is more feminine, transsexuals or lesbians?

On 4/24/24 6:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/24/2024 6:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
>>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> women"...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
>>>>>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
>>>>>>>>>>>> to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
>>>>>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above
>>>>>>>>> virtue-signaling and
>>>>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only
>>>>>> lost its
>>>>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a
>>>>>> troon
>>>>>> to rep them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>>>>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male
>>>>> and
>>>>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>>>>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>>
>>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>>
>> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
>> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
>> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.
>
> The antecedents to your respective "them"s aren't clear to me...

Put another way: yes, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:26:02 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>
>Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.

I remember the time there was a major kerfuffle when a female reporter
went into a dressing room where the players ranged from fully clothed
to fully unclothed (e.g. right out of the shower while still adjusting
their towel). Can't remember for sure but believe it was in a cup
final where the players were celebrating with the cup - and that one
naked player was given the cup to shield his privates from the camera.

She reacted badly with the result that the team banned ALL reporters
from dressing rooms and made players available only after they had
finished changing.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 15:11:52 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
>the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
>have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

Ah yes "TERF" (Trans exclusionary radical feminist - IIRC first
applied to JK Rowling)

On 4/25/2024 4:20 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:26:02 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>
>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>
> I remember the time there was a major kerfuffle when a female reporter
> went into a dressing room where the players ranged from fully clothed
> to fully unclothed (e.g. right out of the shower while still adjusting
> their towel). Can't remember for sure but believe it was in a cup
> final where the players were celebrating with the cup - and that one
> naked player was given the cup to shield his privates from the camera.
>
> She reacted badly with the result that the team banned ALL reporters
> from dressing rooms and made players available only after they had
> finished changing.

Wtf would she react badly? Did she think they showered in tuxes?

On 4/24/2024 6:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
>>>>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
>>>>>>>>>>> to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
>>>>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
>>>>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people
>>>>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>>>> to rep them.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>>>
>>>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>>>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>>>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>>>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>
>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>
> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

I'm not sure a new slur indicates more than a few idle malcontents...

On 4/24/24 5:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0btdb$2hs0l$1@dont-email.me>,
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2024 2:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v0bjfr$2fjhq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v09tc9$23ll3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 9:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 3:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 12:14:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/23/2024 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 9:55:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 11:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2024 at 1:49:53 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People hired *because* they're trans aren't "replacing women"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When a troon is the 'brand ambassador' for Nike's women's
>>>>>>>>>>> sportswear line, yes he has taken a job that would normally go
>>>>>>>>>>> to a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's all the beauty pageants who have recently been
>>>>>>>>>>> selecting troons as the winners. Again, an accolade (and
>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent endorsement opportunity) that rightly belongs to a
>>>>>>>>>>> woman if the title is "Miss" Anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The appeal of novelty is always marketable, and always brief.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Says the guy who just two levels up was claiming that "trans people
>>>>>>>>> are indeed 'marginalized' by the public as too unsavory for
>>>>>>>>> commercialization" and aren't "within shouting distance of the
>>>>>>>>> mainstream".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more mainstream than Nike, Victoria's Secret, Sports
>>>>>>>>> Illustrated, and Miss America?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And none of those mainstream businesses is above virtue-signaling and
>>>>>>>> sensationalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So even when I give you the cite(s) you asked for, you immediately
>>>>>>> dismiss them as 'doesn't count' because of virtue signaling. It's
>>>>>>> always a rigged game with you people, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaics, you cited "new" exposures, which don't replace "established"
>>>>>> ones, because they're more of sideshow than a product pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which was always going to be the case because society has only lost its
>>>>> collective mind over this nonsense relatively recently. There was never
>>>>> going to be a cite from the 1950s of a major corporation hiring a troon
>>>>> to rep them.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, rigged game.
>>>>
>>>> Only if you're playing one. Apart from whatever satisfaction your
>>>> indignance may afford you, there's no reason to think that the male and
>>>> female demographics are going to be supplanted (or, if you will,
>>>> *trans*planted) any time soon. And they're what drives hiring, here.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, real women should just shut up and take one for the team
>>> while this 'progressive' lunacy runs its course?
>>
>> Until real men start switching teams, real women don't give a shit.
>
> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women

How many have you surveyed?

have been giving a shit that
> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and
> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.

On 4/22/24 11:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2024 at 8:00:00 PM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/22/24 2:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v05skq$10dpk$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/20/24 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <uvrgqf$2bg49$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/17/24 3:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uvog9d$1jt55$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/16/24 3:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <uvmj6j$13qg7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and
>>>>>>>>>>>> defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
>>>>>>>>>>> about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath
>>>>>>>>>>> to defend Congress, jackass.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fred Phelps stole my gag!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And as is typical for him, he somehow managed to drain it of all of its
>>>>>>>>> humor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, no... your posts are fucking hilarious!
>>>>>>>> Specially the ones where you denigrate and stigmatize your fellow man.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because you never do that, so you're not a massive hypocrite or anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's quite a difference denigrating and belittling assholes like
>>>>>> you. You like to pick on marginalized groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' about troons in today's society. They're
>>>>> embraced and protected at every level of government. Major corporations
>>>>> across the spectrum are catering to them. Joe Biden is having Troon Day
>>>>> at the White House on Easter. Laws are being passed that favor troons
>>>>> over the privacy rights of real women, and which force everyone from
>>>>> high schools and colleges to professional sports teams to allow them to
>>>>> compete against real women. Laws are being passed to criminalize refusal
>>>>> to actively participate in their delusions. Laws are being passed to
>>>>> take kids away from their parents if the parents aren't on board with
>>>>> trooning their kid. Hollywood is pushing troons in movies and TV shows.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing 'marginalized' whatsoever about any of that. If anyone's
>>>>> marginalized vis a vis troons, it's the real women whose private spaces,
>>>>> accolades, championships, records, and endorsements the dudes in dresses
>>>>> are usurping.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hollywood ain't passing laws telling them what they can and can't do.
>>>> Your buddies in government are.
>>>
>>> The government passes laws telling ALL OF US what we can and can't do.
>>>
>> Well, not all of us. And it's your buddies who are actively taking
>> rights AWAY from people.
>
> Yeah, the right to show their dicks to little girls in public bathrooms. Boo
> hoo.
>
>

Far more likely to be a conservative "Christian", or a cop, than one of
your "troons".

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:43:13 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>> All evidence to contrary. Enough real women have been giving a shit that
>> the troons have had to come up with a denigrating slur to smear them and

>> have lobbied to have laws passed to criminalize them.
>
>I'm not sure a new slur indicates more than a few idle malcontents...

Perhaps - I understood it as being a special personalized slur for
Rowling which they then applied to others as well.

Including several dozen British sexual offenders who after arrest
proclaimed they identified as women and got themselves assigned to
womens' prisons.

(In other words not just thieves and drug dealers...)

This isn't the article I read on this but should give you the general
idea

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27477181/prisons-misgendering-trans-rapist-isla-bryson-fuel-hatred/