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From: doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
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Subject: Re: Millie Gibson is OUT
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 01:28:56 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 01:28 UTC

In article <nnd$23b8f354$24d9b4ae@de29c4d42092615d>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <nnd$78a833fd$7109d64e@8ca69ab4835263a6>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> >
>> > The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>> > [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one?
>> > Millie Gibson's Ruby has only been in one broadcast episode of
>> > Doctor Who, which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.
>> >
>> > Clearly something has changed, as it's not that long ago RTD was
>> > gushing in praise for Ncuti and Millie as a team. So did RTD
>> > change his mind or did somebody change it for him?!
>>
>> I think Millie said I am out!
>
>Maybe.
>
>Maybe RTD said, you're out.
>
>Maybe Millie Gibson only had a contract for one season, or however
>many episodes she's actually doing.
>
>Maybe Disney said we don't like Ruby.
>
>Maybe Millie Gibson didn't like singing Goblins.
>
>????
>
>Stay tuned and all will be revealed... same bat-time, same
>bat-channel.

Possibilities are unlimited !
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 01:29 UTC

In article <uohla9$3s9r9$2@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>news:uohbtd$3qsjn$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>
>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent of
>>> 2005.
>>
>> "Political Correctness" quota filling and box-ticking ... it is almost
>> illegal to have a white person in a TV show these days. :-\
>
>I blame Joe Biden.
>

Ja!
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 01:30 UTC

In article <uohqc6$3sv37$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2024-01-20 23:12:14 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <nnd$78a833fd$7109d64e@8ca69ab4835263a6>,
>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>>>> [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one?
>>>> Millie Gibson's Ruby has only been in one broadcast episode of
>>>> Doctor Who, which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly something has changed, as it's not that long ago RTD was
>>>> gushing in praise for Ncuti and Millie as a team. So did RTD
>>>> change his mind or did somebody change it for him?!
>>>
>>> I think Millie said I am out!
>>
>> Maybe.
>>
>> Maybe RTD said, you're out.
>>
>> Maybe Millie Gibson only had a contract for one season, or however
>> many episodes she's actually doing.
>
>She is already going to be in season 2, if only for a few episodes to
>wind up her story.
>
>Previously it was rumoured that both Millie and Ncuti only had
>contracts for two seasons, so it appears that the rumours were at least
>half-right.
>

and Half-wrong

>
>
>> Maybe Disney said we don't like Ruby.
>>
>> Maybe Millie Gibson didn't like singing Goblins.
>>
>> ????
>>
>> Stay tuned and all will be revealed... same bat-time, same
>> bat-channel.
>
>Another option is that she signed on simply to get a big (near)main
>role on her career CV before ditching the show to move on to other
>things. It wouldn't be the first time an actor has done it, just look
>at Quitopher Etchedinstone who only did one season.
>
>
>

Or back to Corrie!
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Blueshirt wrote on 21/1/24 2:25 am:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> Agent Jakanov wrote on 20/1/24 5:13 pm:
>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson
>>> - reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>
>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story will
>>> be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>
>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>
>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>> of 2005.
>>>
>> How?? I mean Rose, the assistant, hung around for several more
>> years!!
>
> He probably means the Christopher Eccleston falling out with RTD and
> his production team situation and leaving after just one season.
>
I'm sure that was what was meant ..... but it was not what was typed!
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The Doctor wrote on 21/1/24 2:01 am:
> In article <uogfbd$nf4j$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Mich <mich@none.edu>
> wrote:
>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson-
>>> reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>
>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story
>>> will be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>
>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>
>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>> of 2005.
>>
>> What was Chris Eccle's reason? Did he say lack of character
>> development or sumpfink like dat?
>
> CE only was signed for 1 series!~
>
A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected after an
absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee Piper get to
hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas Christopher
Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 12:30 UTC

In article <uois11$51v2$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote on 21/1/24 2:25 am:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Agent Jakanov wrote on 20/1/24 5:13 pm:
>>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson
>>>> - reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>>
>>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story will
>>>> be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>>
>>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>>
>>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>>> of 2005.
>>>>
>>> How?? I mean Rose, the assistant, hung around for several more
>>> years!!
>>
>> He probably means the Christopher Eccleston falling out with RTD and
>> his production team situation and leaving after just one season.
>>
>I'm sure that was what was meant ..... but it was not what was typed!
>--
>Daniel

Whatever!
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 12:30 UTC

In article <uoisf1$56ps$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 21/1/24 2:01 am:
>> In article <uogfbd$nf4j$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Mich <mich@none.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson-
> >>> reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>>
>>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story
>>>> will be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>>
>>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>>
>>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>>> of 2005.
>>>
>>> What was Chris Eccle's reason? Did he say lack of character
>>> development or sumpfink like dat?
>>
>> CE only was signed for 1 series!~
>>
>A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected after an
>absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee Piper get to
>hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas Christopher
>Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>--
>Daniel

Yes and Yes!
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Daniel65 wrote:
>
> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected
> after an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee
> Piper get to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas
> Christopher Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??

Both of them had one year contracts with options of a second year if
the BBC liked the first season enough to go on with a second. (At the
time some people in the BBC were sceptical of it being a success.)
Chris fell out with RTD/Collinson/Gardner et al. and decided to leave
when his year was up... Billie Piper decided to stay on.

There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last year
where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to return to
Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie
Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:21 UTC

In article <nnd$07a074e6$026516ce@e099b08a19891604>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>>
>> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected
>> after an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee
>> Piper get to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas
>> Christopher Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>
>Both of them had one year contracts with options of a second year if
>the BBC liked the first season enough to go on with a second. (At the
>time some people in the BBC were sceptical of it being a success.)
>Chris fell out with RTD/Collinson/Gardner et al. and decided to leave
>when his year was up... Billie Piper decided to stay on.
>
>There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
>Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
>filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last year
>where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to return to
>Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie
>Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".

Good one!
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 by: Your Name - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:12 UTC

On 2024-01-21 10:42:45 +0000, Daniel65 said:
> The Doctor wrote on 21/1/24 2:01 am:
>> In article <uogfbd$nf4j$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Mich <mich@none.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson-
> >>> reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>>
>>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story
>>>> will be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>>
>>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>>
>>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>>> of 2005.
>>>
>>> What was Chris Eccle's reason? Did he say lack of character
>>> development or sumpfink like dat?
>>
>> CE only was signed for 1 series!~
>
> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected after
> an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee Piper get
> to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas Christopher
> Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??

Billie Piper was well-known (at least in the UK and other Commonwealth
Countries) before Doctor Who, but mainly as a pop singer - she was
likely far better known than Eccelstone at the time.

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On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>>
>> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected
>> after an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee
>> Piper get to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas
>> Christopher Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>
> Both of them had one year contracts with options of a second year if
> the BBC liked the first season enough to go on with a second. (At the
> time some people in the BBC were sceptical of it being a success.)
> Chris fell out with RTD/Collinson/Gardner et al. and decided to leave
> when his year was up... Billie Piper decided to stay on.
>
> There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
> Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
> filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last year
> where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to return to
> Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie
> Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".

He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.

The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem to have
calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.

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 by: Mickmane - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:17 UTC

On 21.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> Blueshirt wrote:
>>
>> The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>> [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one? Millie
>> Gibson's Rose has only been in one broadcast episode of Doctor Who,
>> which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.

> [Correction] It should of course read Millie Gibson's "Ruby"...

Ah, so it's not just I who keeps thinking "Rose- (no, some other name,
that road, Ruby Road,) Ruby!" whenever I think of the new companion. :)

--

Mickmane

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Mickmane wrote:
> On 21.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>>> [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one? Millie
>>> Gibson's Rose has only been in one broadcast episode of Doctor Who,
>>> which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.
>
>> [Correction] It should of course read Millie Gibson's "Ruby"...
>
> Ah, so it's not just I who keeps thinking "Rose- (no, some other name,
> that road, Ruby Road,) Ruby!" whenever I think of the new companion. :)
>
stick to the easy stuff you'll make more sense

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Your Name wrote:

> On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> >
> > There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
> > Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
> > filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last
> > year where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to
> > return to Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter,
> > sack Julie Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".
>
> He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.

They're too niche for most people...
> The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
> deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem to
> have calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.

He didn't sound very calm - or diplomatic - on that panel in
Manchester when he was asked the question! :-)

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 by: % - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:01 UTC

Blueshirt wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>
>>> There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
>>> Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
>>> filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last
>>> year where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to
>>> return to Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter,
>>> sack Julie Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".
>>
>> He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.
>
> They're too niche for most people...
>
>> The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
>> deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem to
>> have calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.
>
> He didn't sound very calm - or diplomatic - on that panel in
> Manchester when he was asked the question! :-)
>
he's an actor

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Your Name wrote:

> On 2024-01-21 10:42:45 +0000, Daniel65 said:
> >
> > A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected
> > after an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did
> > Billee Piper get to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she,
> > whereas Christopher Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>
> Billie Piper was well-known (at least in the UK and other
> Commonwealth Countries) before Doctor Who, but mainly as a pop
> singer - she was likely far better known than Eccelstone at the
> time.

Yeah I suppose as an ex-teenage popstar Billie Piper was very well
known, but not so much for her acting at that time obviously.
Christopher Eccleston was a big name, but not super-star big. He'd
been in a lot of TV shows and films. (That Derek Bentley film was
very highly regarded.) Christopher Eccleston doing Doctor Who was a
big thing at the time as he had that recognisable weathered face that
we'd all seen on the TV somewhere, but he wasn't a household name in
the UK like Billie Piper was.

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% wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote:
> > Your Name wrote:
> >
> > > On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> > > >
> > > > There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston
> > > > at Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had
> > > > during filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from
> > > > late last year where he was asked on a panel what would it
> > > > take for him to return to Doctor Who and he said... "Sack
> > > > RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie Gardner, sack Phil
> > > > Collinson and I'll come back".
> > >
> > > He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.
> >
> > They're too niche for most people...
> >
> > > The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
> > > deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem
> > > to have calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.
> >
> > He didn't sound very calm - or diplomatic - on that panel in
> > Manchester when he was asked the question! :-)
> >
> he's an actor

Yes, and he'd be very well aware that his answer would go public as
most sci-fi convention panels are filmed and turn up on YouTube.

In fairness to RTD, he takes the moral high ground and doesn't
respond to Eccleston's barbs... I'd love to have been a fly on the
wall when he was watching the clips though. :-)

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 by: % - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:13 UTC

Blueshirt wrote:
> % wrote:
>
>> Blueshirt wrote:
>>> Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston
>>>>> at Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had
>>>>> during filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from
>>>>> late last year where he was asked on a panel what would it
>>>>> take for him to return to Doctor Who and he said... "Sack
>>>>> RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie Gardner, sack Phil
>>>>> Collinson and I'll come back".
>>>>
>>>> He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.
>>>
>>> They're too niche for most people...
>>>
>>>> The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
>>>> deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem
>>>> to have calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.
>>>
>>> He didn't sound very calm - or diplomatic - on that panel in
>>> Manchester when he was asked the question! :-)
>>>
>> he's an actor
>
> Yes, and he'd be very well aware that his answer would go public as
> most sci-fi convention panels are filmed and turn up on YouTube.
>
> In fairness to RTD, he takes the moral high ground and doesn't
> respond to Eccleston's barbs... I'd love to have been a fly on the
> wall when he was watching the clips though. :-)
>
it's all just fluff to make movie goers attend the premier

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% wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote:
> >
> > Yes, and he'd be very well aware that his answer would go public
> > as most sci-fi convention panels are filmed and turn up on
> > YouTube.
> >
> > In fairness to RTD, he takes the moral high ground and doesn't
> > respond to Eccleston's barbs... I'd love to have been a fly on the
> > wall when he was watching the clips though. :-)
> >
> it's all just fluff to make movie goers attend the premier

There was no premier or film... Eccleston and Billie Piper were on a
Doctor Who Q&A panel at a sci-fi convention.

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Blueshirt wrote:

> % wrote:
>
> > Blueshirt wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, and he'd be very well aware that his answer would go public
> > > as most sci-fi convention panels are filmed and turn up on
> > > YouTube.
> > >
> > > In fairness to RTD, he takes the moral high ground and doesn't
> > > respond to Eccleston's barbs... I'd love to have been a fly on
> > > the wall when he was watching the clips though. :-)
> > >
> > it's all just fluff to make movie goers attend the premier
>
> There was no premier or film... Eccleston and Billie Piper were on a
> Doctor Who Q&A panel at a sci-fi convention.

....and if anyone wants to watch the whole 47 minutes of the
Christopher Eccleston & Billie Piper Doctor Who panel from that
sci-fi convention in Manchester last year...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdjVLqnv_k

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 by: The Doctor - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 01:03 UTC

In article <uojtqu$brj5$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2024-01-21 10:42:45 +0000, Daniel65 said:
>> The Doctor wrote on 21/1/24 2:01 am:
>>> In article <uogfbd$nf4j$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Mich <mich@none.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>>>> https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-entertainment/millie-gibson-
>> >>> reportedly-leaving-doctor-who/
>>>>>
>>>>> She won't appear in the 2024 Christmas special, and her story
>>>>> will be wrapped up in a standalone episode in 2025.
>>>>>
>>>>> Varada Seethru will replace her.
>>>>>
>>>>> What went down behind the scenes? Sounds like a mess reminiscent
>>>>> of 2005.
>>>>
>>>> What was Chris Eccle's reason? Did he say lack of character
>>>> development or sumpfink like dat?
>>>
>>> CE only was signed for 1 series!~
>>
>> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected after
>> an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee Piper get
>> to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas Christopher
>> Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>
>Billie Piper was well-known (at least in the UK and other Commonwealth
>Countries) before Doctor Who, but mainly as a pop singer - she was
>likely far better known than Eccelstone at the time.
>
>

Still made it big Canda after that!
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 by: The Doctor - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 01:03 UTC

In article <uoju4i$bt14$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>
>>> A reasonable situation given "Doctor Who" was being resurrected
>>> after an absence of almost ten years ..... but, why then did Billee
>>> Piper get to hang around?? She was a Newbie, wasn't she, whereas
>>> Christopher Ecclestone was a known entity, wasn't he??
>>
>> Both of them had one year contracts with options of a second year if
>> the BBC liked the first season enough to go on with a second. (At the
>> time some people in the BBC were sceptical of it being a success.)
>> Chris fell out with RTD/Collinson/Gardner et al. and decided to leave
>> when his year was up... Billie Piper decided to stay on.
>>
>> There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
>> Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
>> filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last year
>> where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to return to
>> Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter, sack Julie
>> Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".
>
>He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.
>
>The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
>deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem to have
>calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.
>

Good thing!
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Subject: Re: Millie Gibson is OUT
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In article <GXH4VgEqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 21.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>>> [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one? Millie
>>> Gibson's Rose has only been in one broadcast episode of Doctor Who,
>>> which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.
>
>> [Correction] It should of course read Millie Gibson's "Ruby"...
>
>Ah, so it's not just I who keeps thinking "Rose- (no, some other name,
>that road, Ruby Road,) Ruby!" whenever I think of the new companion. :)
>
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>Mickmane
>

Rose , Ruby, you get it!
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In article <Z5OdnRprS5BN4DD4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>> On 21.01.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The thing is, who made the call? If RTD wanted an Asian companion,
>>>> [just to tick boxes] why not cast Varada Sethu from day one? Millie
>>>> Gibson's Rose has only been in one broadcast episode of Doctor Who,
>>>> which IMHO is way too early to judge a new companion.
>>
>>> [Correction] It should of course read Millie Gibson's "Ruby"...
>>
>> Ah, so it's not just I who keeps thinking "Rose- (no, some other name,
>> that road, Ruby Road,) Ruby!" whenever I think of the new companion. :)
>>
>stick to the easy stuff you'll make more sense

Good advice!
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 by: The Doctor - Mon, 22 Jan 2024 01:05 UTC

In article <nnd$7a42c6d4$671ac0eb@9f9f5232ee350419>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Your Name wrote:
>
>> On 2024-01-21 15:55:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> >
>> > There's a good few YouTube clips now of Christopher Eccleston at
>> > Doctor Who conventions talking about the problems he had during
>> > filming. In fact there was one quite funny video from late last
>> > year where he was asked on a panel what would it take for him to
>> > return to Doctor Who and he said... "Sack RTD, sack Jane Tranter,
>> > sack Julie Gardner, sack Phil Collinson and I'll come back".
>>
>> He's already been back in the role for the audio dramas.
>
>They're too niche for most people...
>
>> The reality is that he had a massive ego and seemed to think he
>> deserved to be treated better / more importantly. He does seem to
>> have calmed down a bit as he has gotten older though.
>
>He didn't sound very calm - or diplomatic - on that panel in
>Manchester when he was asked the question! :-)

That sounds like CE!
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