Op 2022-09-16 om 19:39 schreef Frank Berger:
> On 9/16/2022 1:04 PM, Gerard wrote:
>> Op 2022-09-16 om 18:26 schreef Frank Berger:
>>> On 9/16/2022 10:55 AM, Gerard wrote:
>>>> Op 2022-09-16 om 15:46 schreef Frank Berger:
>>>>> On 9/16/2022 6:57 AM, Andy Evans wrote:
>>>>>>> Hilarious!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad something funny has come out of all this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's been like two frigates trying to communicate with flags in
>>>>>> thick fog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except you have made no effort to communicate at all.  Do you think
>>>>> it was appropriate to have invoked you status as a psychologist in
>>>>> making the comment about me or not?  At one point it looked like
>>>>> you almost admitted you should not have, but then you switched
>>>>> gears and dug in your feet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have asked a question here.  If you want to communicate, the
>>>>> first step would be to answer it.  Either way, an honest answer
>>>>> brings closure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Communicate?
>>>>
>>>> "There you go again. You can't stop, can you?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nor can you.  Locked in a deadly embrace.  Has it occurred to you
>>> that this personal "exchange/conversation/non-conversation" between
>>> me and Andy is really non of your or Herman's business.  Everyone
>>> else seems to know that.
>>>
>>
>> Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT
>> drivel in a public newsgroup.
>>
>>
>
> I will cease participating in off-topic conversations here when you do,
> you ridiculous hypocrite.
>

Who is the hypocrite? Did you look in your dixionary?
See the newsgroups stats about my supposed "participation" in OT
"conversations".

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 7:04:48 PM UTC+2, Gerard wrote:
>
> >
> Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT
> drivel in a public newsgroup.

It's the libertarian / free market view of RMCR: Frank says what ever godawful crap he wants to say. Free speech for him and nobody else.
It's not hypocritical at all.

Op vrijdag 16 september 2022 om 21:22:02 UTC+2 schreef Herman:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 7:04:48 PM UTC+2, Gerard wrote:
> >
> > >
> > Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT
> > drivel in a public newsgroup.
> It's the libertarian / free market view of RMCR: Frank says what ever godawful crap he wants to say. Free speech for him and nobody else.
> It's not hypocritical at all.

This is an unmoderated list and that means free speech, even for Frank and those who want him to stop to say the "godawful crap he wants to say".

Henk

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 10:26:28 PM UTC+2, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> This is an unmoderated list and that means free speech, even for Frank and those who want him to stop to say the "godawful crap he wants to say".
>
> Henk

You have just seen a "personal exchange" here in which Frank accuses Andy of 'malfeasance' and demands an apology, making absurd claims about Andy's former job and exerting serious pressure (I'm not using the word bullying, but I could), and your take-away is I want to stop Frank from saying stuff? Interesting perspective...

On 9/16/2022 2:12 PM, Gerard wrote:
> Op 2022-09-16 om 19:39 schreef Frank Berger:
>> On 9/16/2022 1:04 PM, Gerard wrote:
>>> Op 2022-09-16 om 18:26 schreef Frank Berger:
>>>> On 9/16/2022 10:55 AM, Gerard wrote:
>>>>> Op 2022-09-16 om 15:46 schreef Frank Berger:
>>>>>> On 9/16/2022 6:57 AM, Andy Evans wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hilarious!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm glad something funny has come out of all this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's been like two frigates trying to communicate with flags in thick fog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except you have made no effort to communicate at all.  Do you think it was appropriate to have invoked you status as a psychologist in making the comment about me or not?  At one point it looked like you almost admitted you should not have, but then you switched gears and dug in your feet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have asked a question here.  If you want to communicate, the first step would be to answer it.  Either way, an honest answer brings closure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Communicate?
>>>>>
>>>>> "There you go again. You can't stop, can you?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nor can you.  Locked in a deadly embrace.  Has it occurred to you that this personal "exchange/conversation/non-conversation" between me and Andy is really non of your or Herman's business.  Everyone else seems to know that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT drivel in a public newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I will cease participating in off-topic conversations here when you do, you ridiculous hypocrite.
>>
>
> Who is the hypocrite? Did you look in your dixionary?
> See the newsgroups stats about my supposed "participation" in OT "conversations".
>
>
>
I don't have to look. You have participate in many OT conversations. Like this one. LOL!

On 9/16/2022 3:22 PM, Herman wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 7:04:48 PM UTC+2, Gerard wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT
>> drivel in a public newsgroup.
>
> It's the libertarian / free market view of RMCR: Frank says what ever godawful crap he wants to say. Free speech for him and nobody else.
> It's not hypocritical at all.

How stupid are you? I've done nothing (as if I could) to restrict your speech. Even telling someone to shut up is not restrictive of speech unless you can enforce it. Also the concept of free speech really applies to the government restricting speech. It doesn't apply in a private setting like this. Go look it up. I suggest an encyclopedia but maybe a dictionary will do.

On 9/16/2022 4:26 PM, HT wrote:
> Op vrijdag 16 september 2022 om 21:22:02 UTC+2 schreef Herman:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 7:04:48 PM UTC+2, Gerard wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Really? Then use e-mail for that, in stead of your never ending OT
>>> drivel in a public newsgroup.
>> It's the libertarian / free market view of RMCR: Frank says what ever godawful crap he wants to say. Free speech for him and nobody else.
>> It's not hypocritical at all.
>
> This is an unmoderated list and that means free speech, even for Frank and those who want him to stop to say the "godawful crap he wants to say".
>
> Henk
>
>
>

That's lower case free speech. Upper case Freedom of Speech applies to government restricting speech. In a private setting the owner of the "environment" can restrict speech all he likes without violating anyone's rights. If a newsgroup chooses to have a moderator, then the moderator certainly can restrict speech, but usually according to a set of rules. Like no off-topic conversations. Believe it or not, I would vote for that.

On 9/16/2022 5:01 PM, Herman wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 10:26:28 PM UTC+2, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>
>> This is an unmoderated list and that means free speech, even for Frank and those who want him to stop to say the "godawful crap he wants to say".
>>
>> Henk
>
> You have just seen a "personal exchange" here in which Frank accuses Andy of 'malfeasance'

I am not surprised your reading comprehension is poor. I don't believe I've aver used the word "malfeasance" in my life. I speculated about whether his invoking his psychology degree in analyzing someone he's never met and isn't a patient was strictly kosher according to the codes of his own professional organizations.

>and demands an apology, making absurd claims about Andy's former job and exerting serious pressure (I'm not using the word bullying, but I could), and your take-away is I want to stop Frank from >saying stuff? Interesting perspective...

I didn't demand anything. Demanding anything over the internet is silly.

I suggest, but do not demand, that you take a deep breath. and think about what you wrote and what I really said. Or not.

In article <tg2eau$aoj$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Gerard <g_hendriksen-nospam-@live.com> wrote:
>See the newsgroups stats about my supposed "participation" in OT
>"conversations".

It is sometimes said of economists that they can only handle
quantities. Apparently, FB cannot handle quantities.

Op vrijdag 16 september 2022 om 23:01:04 UTC+2 schreef Herman:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 10:26:28 PM UTC+2, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> >
> > This is an unmoderated list and that means free speech, even for Frank and those who want him to stop to say the "godawful crap he wants to say".
> >
> > Henk
> You have just seen a "personal exchange" here in which Frank accuses Andy of 'malfeasance' and demands an apology, making absurd claims about Andy's former job and exerting serious pressure (I'm not using the word bullying, but I could), and your take-away is I want to stop Frank from saying stuff? Interesting perspective...

When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first visited RMCR.
I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.

Henk

In article <98d6573b-088c-4318-8e88-2f88991ac8b3n@googlegroups.com>,
HT <hvtuijl@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank.

Heh, I did very nearly suggest to Andy that he read Hayek when he
first noted confusion.... But it would've been sarcastic.

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in
> Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first
> visited RMCR. I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.

If I ran into Hayek at Costco I would experience a strong
urge to stangle him on the spot with my own bare hands. ;-)

dk

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:46:18 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:23:53 PM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:35:53 PM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > What makes me laugh about the 21st century is that if you told a typist in
> > > 1922 that typewriter keyboards were going to be replaced by devices the
> > > size of your hand that you could hardly get your fingers around they would
> > > think you were barking mad.
> > if you told anyone in 1922 that a British king would give up the throne so he
> > could marry an American divorcee they would think you were barking mad.
> And she wasn't divorced just once.

The King was her 3rd husband.

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in
> Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first
> visited RMCR. I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.

If I ran into Hayek at Costco I would experience a strong
urge to strangle him on the spot with my own bare hands. ;-)

dk

On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 00:05:14 UTC+1, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> >When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank.

> Heh, I did very nearly suggest to Andy that he read Hayek when he
> first noted confusion.... But it would've been sarcastic.

It looks like good fortune that I've lived my life without coming across this guy. I looked up his biog and he would indeed seem to be absolutely the last person you would want anywhere near a government when it comes to action on climate change. Thanks for the tip.

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:19:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 00:05:14 UTC+1, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> > >When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank.
>
> > Heh, I did very nearly suggest to Andy that he read Hayek when
> > he first noted confusion.... But it would've been sarcastic.
>
> It looks like good fortune that I've lived my life without coming
> across this guy. I looked up his biog and he would indeed seem
> to be absolutely the last person you would want anywhere near
> a government when it comes to action on climate change.

Hayek is a perfect example of an academic who believed the
world would be perfect if everyone adopted his theories. in
other words, he was a prophet, and his belief system is a
religion.

dk

> Hayek is a perfect example of an academic who believed the
> world would be perfect if everyone adopted his theories. in
> other words, he was a prophet, and his belief system is a
> religion.
> > dk

I can't see him in beads and a kaftan dancing to Bob Dylan......

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:56:39 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> >
> > Hayek is a perfect example of an academic who believed the
> > world would be perfect if everyone adopted his theories. in
> > other words, he was a prophet, and his belief system is a
> > religion.
>
> I can't see him in beads and a kaftan dancing to Bob Dylan......

Not all prophets dress in beads and kaftans.
Marx certainly did not.

dk

On 9/16/22 11:29 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>
>> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in
>> Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first
>> visited RMCR. I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.
>
> If I ran into Hayek at Costco I would experience a strong
> urge to strangle him on the spot with my own bare hands. ;-)
>
> dk

Why?

Bob Harper

On 9/17/22 1:23 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:19:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
>> On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 00:05:14 UTC+1, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>>>> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank.
>>
>>> Heh, I did very nearly suggest to Andy that he read Hayek when
>>> he first noted confusion.... But it would've been sarcastic.
>>
>> It looks like good fortune that I've lived my life without coming
>> across this guy. I looked up his biog and he would indeed seem
>> to be absolutely the last person you would want anywhere near
>> a government when it comes to action on climate change.
>
> Hayek is a perfect example of an academic who believed the
> world would be perfect if everyone adopted his theories. in
> other words, he was a prophet, and his belief system is a
> religion.
>
> dk

Sorry, I think Marx has that spot taken.

Bob Harper

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:23:14 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:19:03 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> > On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 00:05:14 UTC+1, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> > > >When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in Frank.
> >
> > > Heh, I did very nearly suggest to Andy that he read Hayek when
> > > he first noted confusion.... But it would've been sarcastic.
> >
> > It looks like good fortune that I've lived my life without coming
> > across this guy. I looked up his biog and he would indeed seem
> > to be absolutely the last person you would want anywhere near
> > a government when it comes to action on climate change.
> Hayek is a perfect example of an academic who believed the
> world would be perfect if everyone adopted his theories. in
> other words, he was a prophet, and his belief system is a
> religion.
>
> dk

- A man man may dwell so long upon a thought that it may take him prisoner.

George Savile

On 9/17/2022 2:29 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>
>> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in
>> Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first
>> visited RMCR. I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.
>
> If I ran into Hayek at Costco I would experience a strong
> urge to strangle him on the spot with my own bare hands. ;-)
>
> dk

Once was more than enough.

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 9/17/2022 2:29 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> >>
> >> When the spirit of Hayek is challenged, it comes alive in
> >> Frank. We all know that. It has been that way since I first
> >> visited RMCR. I'm still a member - it cannot be that bad.
> >
> > If I ran into Hayek at Costco I would experience a strong
> > urge to strangle him on the spot with my own bare hands. ;-)
>
> Once was more than enough.

He survived ?!?

dk

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:20:40 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> Feeling shocked and sad. She was loved by everyone.
>
> I think the UK is feeling quite fragile right now.

Music that will be played at funeral:

https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/queen-funeral-music-order-of-service/

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:20:40 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> Feeling shocked and sad. She was loved by everyone.
>
> I think the UK is feeling quite fragile right now.

https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/2022-09-19/british-young-adults-are-hoping-for-change-as-king-charles-brings-forth-a-new-era