Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.

https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

On 6/29/2022 7:55 AM, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
I'm sorry to hear that. I enjoyed working on digitizing her books.

Bill

On 29/06/2022 07.55, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Damn.

--
Michael F. Stemper
I feel more like I do now than I did when I came in.

On 2022-06-29, jdnicoll@panix.com <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

I'm very sorry to hear that. She was a remarkably good person and
lived her life focusing on the things important to her and enriching
other people's lives because she so willingly shared those things.

Chris

In article <t9hj5q$1efua$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>On 6/29/2022 7:55 AM, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>I'm sorry to hear that. I enjoyed working on digitizing her books.
>
>Bill

Sigh. Not a surprise, but very unwelcome news.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

In article <1ba6a87d-4e6c-48af-af5e-00d5596bf7f5n@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
>So sad. I met her and Hal once, about 5 years ago, but I knew her online for
>decades.
>
>At least we know. So many regulars from rasfw and rasfw just vanish.

As Katherine Blake, she wrote The Interior Life, a rather unusual fantasy
that publisher Baen had _no_ idea how to market.

My review

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/all-it-is-is-just-my-life

Jo Walton's review

https://www.tor.com/2010/01/08/saving-both-worlds-katherine-blake-dorothy-heydts-lemgthe-interior-lifelemg/

Dorothy's work is available here for free download.

http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

--
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My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

In addition to publishing SF, she wrote early self-insert fan fiction
("Dorothy and Myfanwy", Star Trek) and created one of the Vulcan
languages -- see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dorothy_Jones

In article <66044e97-52db-4f63-b82f-7296a69d13c4n@googlegroups.com>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
>In addition to publishing SF, she wrote early self-insert fan fiction
>("Dorothy and Myfanwy", Star Trek) and created one of the Vulcan
>languages -- see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dorothy_Jones

I believe one of her fannish inventions (Ni'var: Vulcan term
referencing duality) was incorporated into Trek canon.
--
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My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

One of my favorite Dorothy anecdotes was where, as a teenager (to the
best of my recollection) she found herself in a class with a high minded
high school teacher, a lover of literature, who despised plebeian, pulpy
science fiction. Dorothy avidly read _Astounding_ at the time.
At some point, the teacher gave his students an assignment to write
a fictional story. After the homework was handed-in the teacher awarded
an A to one particular tale.
It then became Dorothy's delightful duty to teach the teacher. To
show how a story worthy of an A actually appeared in _Astounding_ first.
To patiently explain how a thing springs forth fully formed from pulpy
pages as a plagiarization.

Danke,

--
Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php
telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Crap. Thanks for letting us know. RIP Dorothy.
- Tony

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:59:46 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <66044e97-52db-4f63...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ahasuerus <ahas...@email.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
> >> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
> >
> >In addition to publishing SF, she wrote early self-insert fan fiction
> >("Dorothy and Myfanwy", Star Trek) and created one of the Vulcan
> >languages -- see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dorothy_Jones
> I believe one of her fannish inventions (Ni'var: Vulcan term
> referencing duality) was incorporated into Trek canon.

Yes indeed -- see
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ni%27Var#Ni'Var_(word)

ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote in
news:ji33cbF13lsU1@mid.individual.net:

> In article <t9hj5q$1efua$1@dont-email.me>,
> Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>On 6/29/2022 7:55 AM, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
>>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>>I'm sorry to hear that. I enjoyed working on digitizing her books.
>>
>>Bill
>
> Sigh. Not a surprise, but very unwelcome news.

The world is smaller place.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

jdnicoll@panix.com wrote in news:t9hi3h$fgt$1@panix1.panix.com:

> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Oh dear, what sad (and sadly expected) news. Will miss her posts and good
nature, and I really liked her writing, too.

On 6/29/22 05:55, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Truly sad news. For a person I never met face to face, I really liked
her. The surprising thing is that it looked like she posted YESTERDAY in
the other thread.

She was one of the reasons I read this group.

--
Dave Scruggs
Captain, Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Sr. Software Engineer - Stellar Solutions (Definitely Retired)

On 6/29/2022 7:55 AM, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

We will miss her voice.

Lynn

BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes:
>On 6/29/22 05:55, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
>Truly sad news. For a person I never met face to face, I really liked
>her. The surprising thing is that it looked like she posted YESTERDAY in
>the other thread.

She had just returned from Hospital apparently.

>She was one of the reasons I read this group.

Ditto. She will be missed.

jdnicoll@panix.com writes:

> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Very sad to hear. She was unfailingly interesting and kind in her
posts for the more than thirty years I have been reading first
rec.arts.sf-lovers and now rec.arts.sf.written. I enjoyed most of her
fiction that I read both in magazines and books, it was good to have it
put up to be read recently.

--
Stephen Harker sjharker@netspace.net.au
was: http://sjharker.customer.netspace.net.au/
now: http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjharker@netspace.net.au/
or: http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjharker_nbn/

On 29 Jun 2022 13:45:48 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:

>In article <t9hj5q$1efua$1@dont-email.me>,
>Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>On 6/29/2022 7:55 AM, jdnicoll@panix.com wrote:
>>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>>I'm sorry to hear that. I enjoyed working on digitizing her books.
>>
>>Bill
>
>Sigh. Not a surprise, but very unwelcome news.

+1 to that in spades. Argh! First my wife now Dorothy.....

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:55:18 PM UTC+10, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

She'll be sorely missed from this group, which she certainly made a better place.

Condolences to Hal and her family.

-Moriarty

On 30/06/22 01:35, Chris Buckley wrote:
> On 2022-06-29, jdnicoll@panix.com <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
> I'm very sorry to hear that. She was a remarkably good person and
> lived her life focusing on the things important to her and enriching
> other people's lives because she so willingly shared those things.

That sums up my sentiments as well. May I impose on Peter Trei to send a
condolence card to family on behalf of this group? Thank you.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 7:55:18 AM UTC-5, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>
> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448

Dorothy Heydt had many helpful replies to my questions over the years, for example
about evidentiality in languages. I will miss her.

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

(Hal Heydt)
And she greatly appreciated your work. Consistent with her
wishes, I am including the following.

-------------

To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:

After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:

Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.

Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.

The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
now, and could cross it.

The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.

But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.

who is the King of Glory?

THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY

(save to file)

In article <66044e97-52db-4f63-b82f-7296a69d13c4n@googlegroups.com>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-4, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
>In addition to publishing SF, she wrote early self-insert fan fiction
>("Dorothy and Myfanwy", Star Trek) and created one of the Vulcan
>languages -- see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dorothy_Jones

(Hal Heydt)
Which she referred to as the "Myfanwy, Orloff" stories. Myfanwy was
Astrid Anderson (Bear). Dorothy made a number of attempts to
file the Star Trek serial numbers off in order to turn that
material into something that could be publsihed, but never
succeeded. She did come up with some interesting stuff in the
attempt, though.

In article <2dadf103-b563-439d-b371-87e4cbac7ec4n@googlegroups.com>,
Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:55:18 PM UTC+10, jdni...@panix.com wrote:
>> Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
>
>She'll be sorely missed from this group, which she certainly made a
>better place.
>
>Condolences to Hal and her family.
>
>-Moriarty

(Hal Heydt)
Thank you.

I received a call from her endocrinologist, who had treated for
several years, saying that Dorothy would be missed. She didn't
know that Dorothy had a web site with her works available for
download. But that was Dorothy. Modest to a fault. I have
added her final Cynthia story to the web site.

In article <rE9o7D.22pu@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>I have added her final Cynthia story to the web site.

Which spurred me to finally install certbot, so:

https://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

and

https://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/final_cynthia.html

for the story, specifically.