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Re: S09E01 The Magician's Apprentice

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From: mik...@xenocyte.com (The Last Doctor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: S09E01 The Magician's Apprentice
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 12:16:58 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: The Last Doctor - Thu, 19 May 2022 12:16 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <3525d0db-3851-4a0a-aae0-8fadeba3c560n@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 3:22:32 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> In article <464c6369-0736-4268...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:21:04 AM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> In article <t62rg4$n9c$5...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 18/5/22 4:41 pm:
>>>>>>> In article <t624bk$7fe$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 18/05/2022 11:09 am:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:09:06 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <d4e3b59a-4ddb-46f2...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <e34c472f-f091-41c4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 689 On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:47:00 AM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <5ae678b7-91bd-40cd...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 663 On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:00:58 AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would count as a viable explanation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MOffat yes, Chibnall no!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We saw Peter Capaldi regenerate into Jodie Whittaker in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the normal manner. Why isn't that a viable explanation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The regeneration is still happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What have you seen on screen that backs up that astonishing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The nightmare cannot be real!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What evidence have you seen that its a dream?
>>>>>>>>>> Too many contradictions!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please be specific.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that's it, Tim, .... the clown thinks there are too many
>>>>>>>> contradictions, contradictions which he can't explain ..... therefore
>>>>>>>> the nightmare cannot be real!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least in his uneducated opinion!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Too many contractions meaning a huge list, Dannyboy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .... none of which YOU, clown, can enumerate, clown!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lies Dannboy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's start with the pre-Hartnell lie.
>>>>
>>>> How do you know that its a lie?
>>> Total contraction against Rassilon and Omega.
>>
>> When during the Jodie Era has someone explicitly stated that Rassilon
>> and Omega played no role in the creation of the Time Lords?
>
> Tectuen and The "Master"!

Liar. There isn’t one word in the Timeless Child narrative that contradicts
Rassilon or Omega in any way. And, of course, in fact the Timeless Child
opens up the possibility that at one point the Doctor could have assisted
in those events, as implied by Cartmel et al.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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From: mik...@xenocyte.com (The Last Doctor)
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Subject: Re: S09E01 The Magician's Apprentice
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 by: The Last Doctor - Sun, 22 May 2022 11:19 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t65cfm$d3p$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <3525d0db-3851-4a0a-aae0-8fadeba3c560n@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 3:22:32 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> In article <464c6369-0736-4268...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:21:04 AM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <t62rg4$n9c$5...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 18/5/22 4:41 pm:
>>>>>>>>> In article <t624bk$7fe$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 18/05/2022 11:09 am:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:09:06 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <d4e3b59a-4ddb-46f2...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <e34c472f-f091-41c4...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 689 On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:47:00 AM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <5ae678b7-91bd-40cd...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 663 On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:00:58 AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would count as a viable explanation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MOffat yes, Chibnall no!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We saw Peter Capaldi regenerate into Jodie Whittaker in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the normal manner. Why isn't that a viable explanation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The regeneration is still happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What have you seen on screen that backs up that astonishing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The nightmare cannot be real!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What evidence have you seen that its a dream?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many contradictions!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please be specific.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that's it, Tim, .... the clown thinks there are too many
>>>>>>>>>> contradictions, contradictions which he can't explain ..... therefore
>>>>>>>>>> the nightmare cannot be real!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At least in his uneducated opinion!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Too many contractions meaning a huge list, Dannyboy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .... none of which YOU, clown, can enumerate, clown!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lies Dannboy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's start with the pre-Hartnell lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you know that its a lie?
>>>>> Total contraction against Rassilon and Omega.
>>>>
>>>> When during the Jodie Era has someone explicitly stated that Rassilon
>>>> and Omega played no role in the creation of the Time Lords?
>>>
>>> Tectuen and The "Master"!
>>
>> Liar. There isn’t one word in the Timeless Child narrative that contradicts
>> Rassilon or Omega in any way. And, of course, in fact the Timeless Child
>> opens up the possibility that at one point the Doctor could have assisted
>> in those events, as implied by Cartmel et al.
>>
>
> Bogus! MM!!

Glad to see you were able to logically point out the contradictions there
Dave.

You writing “bogus” is definite proof.

That you’re an idiot, that is.

PROVE me wrong. QUOTE a contradiction. Or, you could stop lying.

But you can’t do that, can you? You’re a continual and pathological liar
and accuse others constantly of lying because they’re telling you truths
you don’t want to hear.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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From: mik...@xenocyte.com (The Last Doctor)
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 by: The Last Doctor - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:10 UTC

Binky bloviated bogusly:
> The Last Doctor wrote:
>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>> When during the Jodie Era has someone explicitly stated that Rassilon
>>>>>> and Omega played no role in the creation of the Time Lords?
>>>>> Tectuen and The "Master"!
>>>>
>>>> Liar. There isn’t one word in the Timeless Child narrative that contradicts
>>>> Rassilon or Omega in any way. And, of course, in fact the Timeless Child
>>>> opens up the possibility that at one point the Doctor could have assisted
>>>> in those events, as implied by Cartmel et al.
>>>
>>> Bogus! MM!!
>>
>> Glad to see you were able to logically point out the contradictions there
>> Dave.
>>
>> You writing “bogus” is definite proof.
>>
>> That you’re an idiot, that is.
>>
>> PROVE me wrong. QUOTE a contradiction. Or, you could stop lying.
>>
>> But you can’t do that, can you? You’re a continual and pathological liar
>> and accuse others constantly of lying because they’re telling you truths
>> you don’t want to hear.
>
> Cartnel was on to something. Chibnall destroyed it.

You have yet to quote one line from the show that explicitly contradicts
ANYTHING that has come before. But particularly Rassilon and Omega’s
legends. If you can’t do that, you’re lying.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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From: danie...@eternal-september.org (Daniel65)
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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 23 May 2022 05:46 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 23/5/22 6:57 am:
> In article <t6d97n$ftb$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
> <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>>>> When during the Jodie Era has someone explicitly
>>>>>>>> stated that Rassilon and Omega played no role in the
>>>>>>>> creation of the Time Lords?
>>>>>>> Tectuen and The "Master"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liar. There isn’t one word in the Timeless Child
>>>>>> narrative that> contradicts Rassilon or Omega in any way.
>>>>>> And, of course, in fact the Timeless Child opens up the
>>>>>> possibility that at one point the Doctor could have
>>>>>> assisted in those events, as implied by Cartmel et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus! MM!!
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see you were able to logically point out the
>>>> contradictions there Dave.
>>>>
>>>> You writing “bogus” is definite proof.
>>>>
>>>> That you’re an idiot, that is.
>>>>
>>>> PROVE me wrong. QUOTE a contradiction. Or, you could stop
>>>> lying.
>>>>
>>>> But you can’t do that, can you? You’re a continual and
>>>> pathological liar and accuse others constantly of lying
>>>> because they’re telling you truths you don’t want to hear.
>>>
>>> Cartnel was on to something. Chibnall destroyed it.
>>
>> You have yet to quote one line from the show that explicitly
>> contradicts ANYTHING that has come before. But particularly
>> Rassilon and Omega’s legends. If you can’t do that, you’re
>> lying.
>
> Lies MM to cover up for chibnall.

Lies the clown, cause HE just doesn't know and has nothing better to do!!

So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to contribute,
none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added to your Precious Post
Count, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 06:25:19 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: The Last Doctor - Mon, 23 May 2022 06:25 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t6d97n$ftb$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>>>> When during the Jodie Era has someone explicitly stated that Rassilon
>>>>>>>> and Omega played no role in the creation of the Time Lords?
>>>>>>> Tectuen and The "Master"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liar. There isn’t one word in the Timeless Child narrative that
>> contradicts
>>>>>> Rassilon or Omega in any way. And, of course, in fact the Timeless Child
>>>>>> opens up the possibility that at one point the Doctor could have assisted
>>>>>> in those events, as implied by Cartmel et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus! MM!!
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see you were able to logically point out the contradictions there
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>> You writing “bogus” is definite proof.
>>>>
>>>> That you’re an idiot, that is.
>>>>
>>>> PROVE me wrong. QUOTE a contradiction. Or, you could stop lying.
>>>>
>>>> But you can’t do that, can you? You’re a continual and pathological liar
>>>> and accuse others constantly of lying because they’re telling you truths
>>>> you don’t want to hear.
>>>
>>> Cartnel was on to something. Chibnall destroyed it.
>>
>> You have yet to quote one line from the show that explicitly contradicts
>> ANYTHING that has come before. But particularly Rassilon and Omega’s
>> legends. If you can’t do that, you’re lying.
>>
>
> Lies MM to cover up for chibnall.

Um, for me to be lying, you’d have to produce a quote from the show, as
stated above. Otherwise, as stated above (and as everyone but your
conscious mind knows to be true) YOU are the liar.

In any case, I didn’t make an assertion above, so I CANNOT have been lying.
I made a statement that would allow you to try to prove me mistaken.

But you can’t. So I’m not.
>
>> --
>> There are some corners of the universe
>> which have bred the most terrible things.
>> Things which act against everything we believe in.
>>
>> They must be /fought/.
>
>

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Mon, 23 May 2022 14:06 UTC

Binky bloviated bogusly:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky bloviated bogusly:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> You have yet to quote one line from the show that explicitly contradicts
>>>> ANYTHING that has come before. But particularly Rassilon and Omega’s
>>>> legends. If you can’t do that, you’re lying.
>>>
>>> Lies MM
>>
>> Um, for me to be lying, you’d have to produce a quote from the show, as
>> stated above. Otherwise, as stated above (and as everyone but your
>> conscious mind knows to be true) YOU are the liar.
>>
>> In any case, I didn’t make an assertion above, so I CANNOT have been lying.
>> I made a statement that would allow you to try to prove me mistaken.
>>
>> But you can’t. So I’m not.
>
> But you contradict yourself MM!

No, I don’t. The statements above by me are compatible with each other.

I do make assertions that you’re lying, which if I was wrong you could
prove with quotes that support your contentions.

But you never do.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Mon, 23 May 2022 15:59 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t6g4cv$4f2$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> I do make assertions that you’re lying, which if I was wrong you could
>> prove with quotes that support your contentions.
>>
>> But you never do.
>
> Typical Chibnallite like McKeown for you.

Disregarding the self evident lie from you (I’m no “Chibnallite”, unless
you define that word as “recognises that series 11-13 of Doctor Who exist
and therefore is not insane”, in which case just about everyone in the
world who knows about Doctor Who is a “Chibnallite”, except Aggie):

And is that the quote from the show that proves there is a contradiction
between the Timeless Child legend and the legends of Rassilon and Omega, is
it?

Didn’t think so. You keep on proving my point.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Mon, 23 May 2022 23:20 UTC

Binky blustered bogusly:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> I do make assertions that you’re lying, which if I was wrong you could
>>>> prove with quotes that support your contentions.
>>>>
>>>> But you never do.
>>>
>>> Typical Chibnallite like McKeown for you.
>>
>> Disregarding the self evident lie from you (I’m no “Chibnallite”, unless
>> you define that word as “recognises that series 11-13 of Doctor Who exist
>> and therefore is not insane”, in which case just about everyone in the
>> world who knows about Doctor Who is a “Chibnallite”, except Aggie):
>>
>> And is that the quote from the show that proves there is a contradiction
>> between the Timeless Child legend and the legends of Rassilon and Omega, is
>> it?
>>
>> Didn’t think so. You keep on proving my point.
>>
>
> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!

I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed two lies in six words
- you must take great pride in your sins to work so intently at
exacerbating them.

But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to be discussing. You were
supposed to be defeating me logically by giving the quotes from the show
that indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child story and the
Rassilon and Omega stories.

Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction in response
though instead.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 24 May 2022 05:47 UTC

Binky blathered bullshit:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blustered bogusly:

>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>
>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed two lies in six words
>> - you must take great pride in your sins to work so intently at
>> exacerbating them.
>>
>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to be discussing. You were
>> supposed to be defeating me logically by giving the quotes from the show
>> that indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child story and the
>> Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>
>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction in response
>> though instead.
>>
> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!

What a shame. More lies, evasion and distraction in response. I win the
bet.

Guess that must prove you’re lying about there being any contradiction
between the Timeless Child story and the Rassilon and Omega stories, since
you can’t find any evidence for one.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Tue, 24 May 2022 08:17 UTC

Binky bleated boringly:

> In article <t6h4ri$183$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>
>>>
>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>
>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed
>> two lies in six words- you must take great pride in your
>> sins to work so intently at exacerbating them.
>>
>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to
>> be discussing. You were supposed to be defeating
>> me logically by giving the quotes from the show that
>> indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child
>> story and the Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>
>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction
>> in response though instead.
>>
> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>

Binky, you’re the one repeating yourself. Does that mean
_you’re_ the lying Chibnallite, MM?

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 24 May 2022 11:02 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 24/5/22 6:17 pm:
> Binky bleated boringly:
>> In article <t6h4ri$183$1@dont-email.me>,
>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>>>
>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>
>>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed
>>> two lies in six words- you must take great pride in your
>>> sins to work so intently at exacerbating them.
>>>
>>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to
>>> be discussing. You were supposed to be defeating
>>> me logically by giving the quotes from the show that
>>> indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child
>>> story and the Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>>
>>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction
>>> in response though instead.
>>>
>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>
> Binky, you’re the one repeating yourself. Does that mean
> _you’re_ the lying Chibnallite, MM?
>
Owwww! Low blow,Solar Penguin, low, but (logically) true!!
--
Daniel

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 24 May 2022 13:30 UTC

Binky blubbered boobishly:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>
>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>
>>>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed two lies in six words
>>>> - you must take great pride in your sins to work so intently at
>>>> exacerbating them.
>>>>
>>>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to be discussing. You were
>>>> supposed to be defeating me logically by giving the quotes from the show
>>>> that indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child story and the
>>>> Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction in response
>>>> though instead.
>>>>
>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>
>> What a shame. More lies, evasion and distraction in response. I win the
>> bet.
>>
>> Guess that must prove you’re lying about there being any contradiction
>> between the Timeless Child story and the Rassilon and Omega stories, since
>> you can’t find any evidence for one.
>
> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!

Why do you keep repeating “the lying Chibnallite”?

What is “the lying Chibnallite” you are repeating and why do you keep
telling everyone you’re repeating it when the fact that you’re repeating it
makes it obvious that you’re repeating it?

What does it mean?

What does it have to do with my assertion?

> Because Tectuen is absolute chaos unlike Rassilon and Omgea!

Gibberish. Those aren’t quotes from the show, it’s just nonsense from your
head.

Proof requires quotes from the show, not the demented outpourings of your
imagination.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Tue, 24 May 2022 13:59 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t6immd$tsv$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blubbered boobishly:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed two lies in six words
>>>>>> - you must take great pride in your sins to work so intently at
>>>>>> exacerbating them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to be discussing. You were
>>>>>> supposed to be defeating me logically by giving the quotes from the show
>>>>>> that indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child story and the
>>>>>> Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction in response
>>>>>> though instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>
>>>> What a shame. More lies, evasion and distraction in response. I win the
>>>> bet.
>>>>
>>>> Guess that must prove you’re lying about there being any contradiction
>>>> between the Timeless Child story and the Rassilon and Omega stories, since
>>>> you can’t find any evidence for one.
>>>
>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>
>> Why do you keep repeating “the lying Chibnallite”?
>>
>> What is “the lying Chibnallite” you are repeating and why do you keep
>> telling everyone you’re repeating it when the fact that you’re repeating it
>> makes it obvious that you’re repeating it?
>>
>> What does it mean?
>>
>> What does it have to do with my assertion?
>>
>>> Because Tectuen is absolute chaos unlike Rassilon and Omgea!
>>
>> Gibberish. Those aren’t quotes from the show, it’s just nonsense from your
>> head.
>>
>> Proof requires quotes from the show, not the demented outpourings of your
>> imagination.
>>
>
> A show in decline thanks to Chibnall's Timless Child Arc?

That’s the belief you hold. The position is much more complex than that and
I don’t believe the Timeless Child is a significant contributor to the
overall health of the show.

General ageing of the show, in combination with a seismic change in viewing
habits, explain the viewing numbers. But it was STILL the most watched show
on the BBC on Easter Sunday. Still top three for the day across all
networks. Still top 10 for the week for the BBC (and top 2 non-factual for
the week for the BBC, and still one of the top 10 non factual shows across
all networks for the week). These are not rankings that mean a show is in
decline.

But in any case, even if the show was in decline, even if that was related
in any way to the Timeless Child arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to
whether the arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.

What you need are quotes from the show that prove the contradiction. But
you don’t have any.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Tue, 24 May 2022 21:58 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t6iocc$b3g$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <t6immd$tsv$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky blubbered boobishly:
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a shame. More lies, evasion and distraction
>>>>>> in response. I win the bet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess that must prove you’re lying about there
>>>>>> being any contradiction between the Timeless
>>>>>> Child story and the Rassilon and Omega stories,
>>>>>> since you can’t find any evidence for one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>
>>>> Why do you keep repeating “the lying Chibnallite”?
>>>>
>>>> What is “the lying Chibnallite” you are repeating
>>>> and why do you keep telling everyone you’re repeating
>>>> it when the fact that you’re repeating it makes it
>>>> obvious that you’re repeating it?
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean?
>>>>
>>>> What does it have to do with my assertion?
>>>>
>>>>> Because Tectuen is absolute chaos unlike Rassilon
>>>>> and Omgea!
>>>>
>>>> Gibberish. Those aren’t quotes from the show, it’s
>>>> just nonsense from your head.
>>>>
>>>> Proof requires quotes from the show, not the demented
>>>> outpourings of your imagination.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A show in decline thanks to Chibnall's Timless Child Arc?
>>
>> That’s the belief you hold. The position is much more
>> complex than that and I don’t believe the Timeless
>> Child is a significant contributor to the overall health of the show.
>>
>> General ageing of the show, in combination with a seismic
>> change in viewing habits, explain the viewing numbers.
>> But it was STILL the most watched show on the BBC
>> on Easter Sunday. Still top three for the day across
>> all networks. Still top 10 for the week for the BBC (and
>> top 2 non-factual for the week for the BBC, and still
>> one of the top 10 non factual shows across all networks
>> for the week). These are not rankings that mean a show
>> is in decline.
>>
>> But in any case, even if the show was in decline, even
>> if that was related in any way to the Timeless Child
>> arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to whether the
>> arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>
>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove
>> the contradiction. But you don’t have any.
>>
>
> And you are ignoring the numbers presented to you!
>

Liar! You haven’t presented any numbers that show how
the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.

--
solar penguin

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 25 May 2022 07:08 UTC

Binky blustered bogusly:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky blubbered boobishly:

>>> A show in decline thanks to Chibnall's Timless Child Arc?
>>
>> That’s the belief you hold. The position is much more complex than that and
>> I don’t believe the Timeless Child is a significant contributor to the
>> overall health of the show.
>>
>> General ageing of the show, in combination with a seismic change in viewing
>> habits, explain the viewing numbers. But it was STILL the most watched show
>> on the BBC on Easter Sunday. Still top three for the day across all
>> networks. Still top 10 for the week for the BBC (and top 2 non-factual for
>> the week for the BBC, and still one of the top 10 non factual shows across
>> all networks for the week). These are not rankings that mean a show is in
>> decline.
>>
>> But in any case, even if the show was in decline, even if that was related
>> in any way to the Timeless Child arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to
>> whether the arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>
>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove the contradiction. But
>> you don’t have any.
>>
>
> And you are ignoring the numbers presented to you!

No, I’m not. I’m just taking any and all numbers in the context of the
current landscape of television.

On the other hand, you’re ignoring the facts presented to you. But you
should have posted that in response to the earlier part of the message.

The part we should be following up on is the one you’re trying to ignore
because you know you’re wrong and constantly lying about it:

The Timeless Child arc does not contradict Rassilon or Omega in any way.
What you need are quotes from the show that prove the contradiction. But
you can’t find them because

a) there aren’t any, there’s no contradiction, you’re a liar and an idiot

or

b) …er… alien space bats have re-edited every single episode and transcript
of the modern and classic show to remove every trace of all the
contradictions that used to be there, and have wiped the memories of every
member of the human race but you so that only you now remember the
contradictions, and even now they are preventing you from actually telling
us what the contradictions used to be?

Choose. Is it a or b?

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Wed, 25 May 2022 07:51 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t6jkec$451$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Binky bleated:
>>
>>> In article <t6iocc$b3g$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But in any case, even if the show was in decline,
>>>> even if that was related in any way to the Timeless
>>>> Child arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to whether
>>>> the arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>>>
>>>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove
>>>> the contradiction. But you don’t have any.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And you are ignoring the numbers presented to you!
>>>
>>
>> Liar! You haven’t presented any numbers that show
>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or
>> Omega.
>>
>
> The audience has the knives out for Chibnall!
>

Liar! Knives aren’t numbers! And even if they were, they
still wouldn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicted
Rassilon or Omega.

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 25 May 2022 13:12 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 24/05/2022 11:27 pm:
> In article <t6idvs$rij$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> solar penguin wrote on 24/5/22 6:17 pm:
>>> Binky bleated boringly:
>>>> In article <t6h4ri$183$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed
>>>>> two lies in six words- you must take great pride in your
>>>>> sins to work so intently at exacerbating them.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to
>>>>> be discussing. You were supposed to be defeating
>>>>> me logically by giving the quotes from the show that
>>>>> indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child
>>>>> story and the Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction
>>>>> in response though instead.
>>>>>
>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>
>>> Binky, you’re the one repeating yourself. Does that mean
>>> _you’re_ the lying Chibnallite, MM?
>>>
>> Owwww! Low blow,Solar Penguin, low, but (logically) true!!
>
> Still does not change the fact that I am anti-Chibnall.

WE *ALL* know that YOU, clown, are anti-Chibnall ..... but that doesn't
mean what Chibnall has, now, included in the 'Doctor Who' story is wrong!!

Just like YOU, clown, don't think Doctor Sylvester was up to much!! ....
He is STILL, for better or worse, part of 'Doctor Who' HISTORY, clown!!

Oh, and YOUR newsreader is corrupting the quoted text, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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 by: The Last Doctor - Wed, 25 May 2022 14:55 UTC

Binky blathered bullshit:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:

[Snipping old content because I’m not a spamming troll]

>> The part we should be following up on is the one you’re trying to ignore
>> because you know you’re wrong and constantly lying about it:
>>
>> The Timeless Child arc does not contradict Rassilon or Omega in any way.
>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove the contradiction. But
>> you can’t find them because
>>
>> a) there aren’t any, there’s no contradiction, you’re a liar and an idiot
>>
>> or
>>
>> b) …er… alien space bats have re-edited every single episode and transcript
>> of the modern and classic show to remove every trace of all the
>> contradictions that used to be there, and have wiped the memories of every
>> member of the human race but you so that only you now remember the
>> contradictions, and even now they are preventing you from actually telling
>> us what the contradictions used to be?
>>
>> Choose. Is it a or b?
>>
>
>
> Sorry your choices are are as valid as the legitimacy of the Timeless Child!

So, completely legitimate then. I can understand you feeling sorry about
that.

If there’s a third alternative, you’re more than welcome to add it. As long
as, if you’re going to claim a contradiction, you provide quotes from the
show to demonstrate one. Otherwise you’re just a stupid liar.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Wed, 25 May 2022 17:40 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t6kn6i$cfr$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Binky bleated:
>>
>>> In article <t6jkec$451$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <t6iocc$b3g$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But in any case, even if the show was in decline,
>>>>>> even if that was related in any way to the Timeless
>>>>>> Child arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to whether
>>>>>> the arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove
>>>>>> the contradiction. But you don’t have any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And you are ignoring the numbers presented to you!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liar! You haven’t presented any numbers that show
>>>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or
>>>> Omega.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The audience has the knives out for Chibnall!
>>>
>>
>> Liar! Knives aren’t numbers! And even if they were, they
>> still wouldn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicted
>> Rassilon or Omega.
>>
>
> But Tectuen contradictis the Time Lords.

She doesn’t, but so what if she does? “Tectuen” (sic) isn’t
a number.

You claimed you could present numbers that show how
the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.

You haven’t presented those numbers. You were lying.
Again.

--
solar penguin

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 26 May 2022 04:40 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t6lpm3$a8u$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Binky bleated:
>>
>>> In article <t6kn6i$cfr$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <t6jkec$451$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <t6iocc$b3g$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But in any case, even if the show was in decline,
>>>>>>>> even if that was related in any way to the Timeless
>>>>>>>> Child arc, that would have NO RELEVANCE to whether
>>>>>>>> the arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove
>>>>>>>> the contradiction. But you don’t have any.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you are ignoring the numbers presented to you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liar! You haven’t presented any numbers that show
>>>>>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or
>>>>>> Omega.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The audience has the knives out for Chibnall!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liar! Knives aren’t numbers! And even if they were, they
>>>> still wouldn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicted
>>>> Rassilon or Omega.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But Tectuen contradictis the Time Lords.
>>
>> She doesn’t, but so what if she does? “Tectuen” (sic) isn’t
>> a number.
>>
>> You claimed you could present numbers that show how
>> the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
>>
>> You haven’t presented those numbers. You were lying.
>> Again.
>>
>
> The audience is turned off!
>

That still doesn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicts
Rassilon or Omega. And you still haven’t presented any
numbers.

You claimed you could present numbers that show how
the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or Omega.
You were lying. Again.

--
solar penguin

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 26 May 2022 06:33 UTC

Tim typed:

> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:40:10 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>> Binky bleated:
>>> In article <t6lpm3$a8u$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You claimed you could present numbers that show
>>>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon
>>>> or Omega.
>>>>
>>>> You haven’t presented those numbers. You were
>>>> lying. Again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The audience is turned off!
>>>
>> That still doesn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicts
>> Rassilon or Omega. And you still haven’t presented
>> any numbers.
>>
>> You claimed you could present numbers that show
>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or
>> Omega. You were lying. Again.
>
> What kind of numbers would show how the Timeless
> Child contradicts Rassilon or Omega?
>

I don’t know. That’s why I want to see them and find out.

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 26 May 2022 10:55 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 26/5/22 7:02 am:
> In article <t6lg0r$lv$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
> <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blathered bull:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> [Snipping old content because I’m not a spamming troll]
>>
>>>> The part we should be following up on is the one you’re
>>>> trying to ignore because you know you’re wrong and constantly
>>>> lying about it:
>>>>
>>>> The Timeless Child arc does not contradict Rassilon or Omega in
>>>> any way. What you need are quotes from the show that prove the
>>>> contradiction. But you can’t find them because
>>>>
>>>> a) there aren’t any, there’s no contradiction, you’re a
>>>> liar and an idiot
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> b) …er… alien space bats have re-edited every single
>>>> episode and transcript
>>>> of the modern and classic show to remove every trace of all
>>>> the contradictions that used to be there, and have wiped the
>>>> memories of every member of the human race but you so that only
>>>> you now remember the contradictions, and even now they are
>>>> preventing you from actually telling us what the contradictions
>>>> used to be?
>>>>
>>>> Choose. Is it a or b?
>>>
>>> Sorry your choices are are as valid as the legitimacy of the
>>> Timeless Child!
>>
>> So, completely legitimate then. I can understand you feeling sorry
>> about that.
>>
>> If there’s a third alternative, you’re more than welcome to add
>> it. As long as, if you’re going to claim a contradiction, you
>> provide quotes from the show to demonstrate one. Otherwise you’re
>> just a stupid liar.
>>
>
> Lies MM to wriggle out of trouble.

How is Mike lying if he asks YOU, clown, to make a selection or, indeed,
to provide an option of YOUR own, clown??

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 26 May 2022 10:58 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 26/5/22 12:08 am:
> In article <t6l9vl$inp$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 24/05/2022 11:27 pm:
>>> In article <t6idvs$rij$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>> solar penguin wrote on 24/5/22 6:17 pm:
>>>>> Binky bleated boringly:
>>>>>> In article <t6h4ri$183$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Binky blustered bogusly:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not lie and am not a Chibnallite. So you managed
>>>>>>> two lies in six words- you must take great pride in your
>>>>>>> sins to work so intently at exacerbating them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But that’s not what this exchange was supposed to
>>>>>>> be discussing. You were supposed to be defeating
>>>>>>> me logically by giving the quotes from the show that
>>>>>>> indicate a contradiction between the Timeless Child
>>>>>>> story and the Rassilon and Omega stories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still waiting. Bet I get another lie, evasion or distraction
>>>>>>> in response though instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repeating the lying Chibnallite, MM!
>>>>>
>>>>> Binky, you’re the one repeating yourself. Does that mean
>>>>> _you’re_ the lying Chibnallite, MM?
>>>>>
>>>> Owwww! Low blow,Solar Penguin, low, but (logically) true!!
>>>
>>> Still does not change the fact that I am anti-Chibnall.
>>
>> WE *ALL* know that YOU, clown, are anti-Chibnall ..... but that doesn't
>> mean what Chibnall has, now, included in the 'Doctor Who' story is wrong!!
>>
>> Just like YOU, clown, don't think Doctor Sylvester was up to much!! ....
>> He is STILL, for better or worse, part of 'Doctor Who' HISTORY, clown!!
>>
>> Oh, and YOUR newsreader is corrupting the quoted text, clown!!

> And Chibnall's contribution needs to retconned to Save Doctor Who,
> Dannyboy!

So do YOU, clown, think Doctor Sylvester should also be retconned, clown??

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

Re: S09E01 The Magician's Apprentice

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 by: The Last Doctor - Thu, 26 May 2022 16:42 UTC

Binky burbled bollocks:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Binky blathered bullshit:
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The part we should be following up on is the one you’re trying to ignore
>>>> because you know you’re wrong and constantly lying about it:
>>>>
>>>> The Timeless Child arc does not contradict Rassilon or Omega in any way.
>>>> What you need are quotes from the show that prove the contradiction. But
>>>> you can’t find them because
>>>>
>>>> a) there aren’t any, there’s no contradiction, you’re a liar
>> and an idiot
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> b) …er… alien space bats have re-edited every single episode and
>> transcript
>>>> of the modern and classic show to remove every trace of all the
>>>> contradictions that used to be there, and have wiped the memories of every
>>>> member of the human race but you so that only you now remember the
>>>> contradictions, and even now they are preventing you from actually telling
>>>> us what the contradictions used to be?
>>>>
>>>> Choose. Is it a or b?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry your choices are are as valid as the legitimacy of the Timeless Child!
>>
>> So, completely legitimate then. I can understand you feeling sorry about
>> that.
>>
>> If there’s a third alternative, you’re more than welcome to add it. As long
>> as, if you’re going to claim a contradiction, you provide quotes from the
>> show to demonstrate one. Otherwise you’re just a stupid liar.
>
> Lies MM to wriggle out of trouble.

Where is the lie, you babbling buffoon? I gave you two choices, and offered
you the chance to submit a third, providing only that you furnish the
necessary minimum evidence to allow the third choice to be considered. What
can conceivably be a lie about that? What delusionally-imagined trouble are
you mendaciously claiming I’m trying to wriggle out of?

It’s YOU that does all the lying and wriggling to defend baseless
assertions around here, you brainless blatherer.

I did (conditionally) call you a stupid liar. However you are demonstrably
stupid and a proven serial liar, so that wasn’t a lie either.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: solar penguin - Thu, 26 May 2022 18:35 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t6n6ve$or3$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tim typed:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:40:10 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>> In article <t6lpm3$a8u$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed you could present numbers that show
>>>>>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon
>>>>>> or Omega.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You haven’t presented those numbers. You were
>>>>>> lying. Again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The audience is turned off!
>>>>>
>>>> That still doesn’t show how the Timeless Child arc contradicts
>>>> Rassilon or Omega. And you still haven’t presented
>>>> any numbers.
>>>>
>>>> You claimed you could present numbers that show
>>>> how the Timeless Child arc contradicted Rassilon or
>>>> Omega. You were lying. Again.
>>>
>>> What kind of numbers would show how the Timeless
>>> Child contradicts Rassilon or Omega?
>>>
>>
>> I don’t know. That’s why I want to see them and find out.
>>
>
> Check out why fans are turned off of Doctor Who!
>

Because they’re closed-minded misogynists and racists.
That’s why.

There, now I’ve answered your question, you answer mine.
Quote those numbers to prove that contradiction!

--
solar penguin

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