On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/12/2021 11:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 16/12/21 2:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> My experience with Hilux brakes is that they last a lot of kms
>>> before they need replacing, on the 2003 I owned the front pads
>>> lasted well over 100,000km as did the pads on the 2009 I also owned,
>>> it would be easy to reduce braking distance by fitting different
>>> pads but it seems to be a Toyota design criteria that longevity is
>>> more important than performance
>> Just as a follow up to this, I was fucking around with the Navara
>> this afternoon getting it ready to sell. I've made up my mind to get
>> rid of it and move into something more modern as my daily driver, and
>> I'm going over it giving it a detail and general tidy up.
>>
>> As part of that I'm fitting new front rotors and pads to it. It
>> doesn't need them, but around 4 years ago I bought new front rotors
>> and pads in anticipation of needing to change them one day, but the
>> problem is that they haven't yet worn to the point where they need to
>> be changed. However the new brake parts are no good to me after the
>> car is gone and fitting them now will give the new owner brand new
>> front brakes that they won't have to worry about for some years.
>>
>> Anyway, the reason I'm mentioning this is to show that Toyota isn't
>> the only company that builds longevity into their products :)
>>
>> These are the brake pads I removed today, and they're the original
>> factory pads fitted when the ute was built:
>>
>>  > https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME5NZZM
>>
>>  > https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME5NZZN
>>
>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The rotors
>> themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still perfectly
>> serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the brakes were
>> working as well as they always have. This is a fairly heavy vehicle
>> that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped exceptionally well.
>>
>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to get
>> this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle today
>> is outstanding.
>>
>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>
>>
>
> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever worn
> out their brakes quickly.
>
>

that's a safe bet

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On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>
>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
>>> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever
>>> worn out their brakes quickly.
>>
>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota is
>> capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm of
>> anything else.
>
> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and Nissans
> have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing. I notice
> that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you aren't buying
> another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to also be a
> Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a good buy
> and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much - obviously.

I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.

>>
>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember when I
>
> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>
>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles were
>> Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run out of
>> them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen renovation
>> business and he would *always* be lugging his van around full of crap
>> along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will all his tools
>> every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the total weight
>> was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close to 3 tonne, and
>> this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>
>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand km's
>> out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out, and he
>> would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on vans that
>> would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease before he would
>> off-load it and move onto the next one.
>
> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he was
> doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the wheel all
> day long. How did he squeeze any work in?

poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
called facts

>>
>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates was
>> a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I also
>> serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around the same
>> mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be about as
>> reliable as each other. The only real significant difference between
>> them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand cheaper to buy.
>
> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>
>

housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to be
working in the street!

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On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
>>>> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever
>>>> worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>
>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota is
>>> capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm of
>>> anything else.
>>
>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and Nissans
>> have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing. I notice
>> that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you aren't buying
>> another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to also be a
>> Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a good buy
>> and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much - obviously.
>
>
> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>
Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>
>>>
>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember when I
>>
>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>
>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles were
>>> Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run out of
>>> them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen renovation
>>> business and he would *always* be lugging his van around full of crap
>>> along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will all his tools
>>> every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the total weight
>>> was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close to 3 tonne, and
>>> this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>>
>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand km's
>>> out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out, and he
>>> would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on vans that
>>> would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease before he would
>>> off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>
>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he was
>> doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the wheel all
>> day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>
>
> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
> called facts
>
>
>>>
>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates was
>>> a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I also
>>> serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around the same
>>> mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be about as
>>> reliable as each other. The only real significant difference between
>>> them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand cheaper to buy.
>>
>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>
>>
>
> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to be
> working in the street!
>
That would not surprise me in the least! ;-)

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 19/12/21 6:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> snip boring.
>>
>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
>>
>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant,
>> incredibly
>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
>> stupendously grandiose claims.
>>
>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
>> Or your Grange collection?
>> Sunshine Coast property?
>> Qualifications?
>> Drag racing action shots?
>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
>
>
> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should be
> public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
>
As long as the number can be seen. Certificates can be faked, that
number cannot. A query to the relevant body will attach a *name* to any
number Darren supplies (should be 2 according to claims) or verify a
name/number combination. That's why I *know* he has no trade papers of
any sort. He'd have flashed them here and shot me down in flames *in an
instant* - if he could. But he can't. FFS, he even tried to claim he did
his auto machining training in-house at Repco. It was Repco who was the
prime mover behind the push to gazette auto machining as a trade and set
up a training facility for it. And you think Repco wouldn't use such a
facility once it was completed? Of course they would - and did - and my
teaching colleagues worked in that department. This is the sort of
detail where Darren comes unstuck - you actually had to have been an
auto machining apprentice to know what went on in the training regime.
>
>>
>> Seeing your siblings on Xmas Day are you Fraudster? Or have they all
>> turned
>> their back on you since you diddled them out of their inheritance?
>>
>> Oty Fraudster!
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>> "I enjoy *very* fine food and don't mind paying a pretty penny for
>> it...".
>
>
> he buys the supersize meal at Maccas! :)
>
>
>> One of my Fraudster Faves. A serious contender for the funniest thing
>> he's
>> ever claimed.
>>
>
>
>

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>
>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>> of anything else.
>>>
>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>> obviously.
>>
>>
>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>
> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>
>>>>
>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>> when I
>>>
>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>
>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>> start driving.
>>>>
>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>
>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>
>>
>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>> called facts
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>
>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>> be working in the street!
>>
> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>
>

afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4

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On 19/12/2021 8:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/12/21 6:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> snip boring.
>>>
>>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
>>>
>>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant,
>>> incredibly
>>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
>>> stupendously grandiose claims.
>>>
>>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
>>> Or your Grange collection?
>>> Sunshine Coast property?
>>> Qualifications?
>>> Drag racing action shots?
>>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
>>
>>
>> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should
>> be public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
>>
> As long as the number can be seen. Certificates can be faked, that
> number cannot. A query to the relevant body will attach a *name* to
> any number Darren supplies (should be 2 according to claims) or verify
> a name/number combination. That's why I *know* he has no trade papers
> of any sort. He'd have flashed them here and shot me down in flames
> *in an instant* - if he could. But he can't. FFS, he even tried to
> claim he did his auto machining training in-house at Repco. It was
> Repco who was the prime mover behind the push to gazette auto
> machining as a trade and set up a training facility for it. And you
> think Repco wouldn't use such a facility once it was completed? Of
> course they would - and did - and my teaching colleagues worked in
> that department. This is the sort of detail where Darren comes unstuck
> - you actually had to have been an auto machining apprentice to know
> what went on in the training regime.

yes, which is why his claims seem credible to those (like me) outside
the industry , but not insiders like yourself.  :)

--
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the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 19/12/21 8:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 8:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/12/21 6:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip boring.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
>>>>
>>>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant,
>>>> incredibly
>>>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
>>>> stupendously grandiose claims.
>>>>
>>>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
>>>> Or your Grange collection?
>>>> Sunshine Coast property?
>>>> Qualifications?
>>>> Drag racing action shots?
>>>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
>>>
>>>
>>> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should
>>> be public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
>>>
>> As long as the number can be seen. Certificates can be faked, that
>> number cannot. A query to the relevant body will attach a *name* to
>> any number Darren supplies (should be 2 according to claims) or verify
>> a name/number combination. That's why I *know* he has no trade papers
>> of any sort. He'd have flashed them here and shot me down in flames
>> *in an instant* - if he could. But he can't. FFS, he even tried to
>> claim he did his auto machining training in-house at Repco. It was
>> Repco who was the prime mover behind the push to gazette auto
>> machining as a trade and set up a training facility for it. And you
>> think Repco wouldn't use such a facility once it was completed? Of
>> course they would - and did - and my teaching colleagues worked in
>> that department. This is the sort of detail where Darren comes unstuck
>> - you actually had to have been an auto machining apprentice to know
>> what went on in the training regime.
>
>
> yes, which is why his claims seem credible to those (like me) outside
> the industry , but not insiders like yourself.  :)
>
>
Which is why he squealed like a pig at *my* claims of being a teacher in
TAFE, especially at Richmond. He knew I would have inside info on the
trades, especially automotive, since Richmond TAFE at the time was
pretty much a 100% automotive college. FFS, when we were at teachers
college, we had to *study* the ins and outs of the TAFE system, the
history, present day operations, government policy, you name it. If it
referenced TAFE, we studied it. BTW, I also had to study the Secondary
system in Victoria with emphasis on tech schools since I was dual
registered - TAFE and Secondary.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 19/12/21 8:56 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>>> of anything else.
>>>>
>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>>> obviously.
>>>
>>>
>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>
>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>> when I
>>>>
>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>
>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>>> start driving.
>>>>>
>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>
>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>
>>>
>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>>> called facts
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>>
>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>> be working in the street!
>>>
>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>
>>
>
> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4
>
>
Still large enough for dual occupancy though. That indicates block sizes
of ~600+SqM.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:39:31 +1100, Noddy wrote:

snip bullshit

> I can remember when I used to service my old man's work vans.

snip more bullshit

> This was on vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a
> 3 year lease before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.

Couple of things here Fraudster.

1. As an unqualified wannabee, you would have voided the warranty by
servicing anything on a lease.
2. 400km over a three year lease for an owner operator who, according to
you, only ever advertised in the local paper?(a)
3. As NA of A in the Slough Estate never existed, where did you do these
services? Or when you say "serviced", do you mean "washed"?

(a) "I learnt that lesson from my father who worked for himself for 50
years and made a good living doing nothing more than having an ad in the
"tradies" section of the local paper". Fraudster 09Jul19

Der Der really should begin these anecdotes, 'Once upon a time...'.

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 17:17:55 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The rotors
>>>> themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still perfectly
>>>> serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the brakes were
>>>> working as well as they always have. This is a fairly heavy vehicle
>>>> that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped exceptionally well.
>>>>
>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to get
>>>> this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle today
>>>> is outstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
>>> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever worn
>>> out their brakes quickly.
>>
>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would have
>> comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even another 20
>> given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing. Country living
>> probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota is capable of doing
>> is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm of anything else.
>
> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and Nissans
> have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing. I notice
> that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you aren't buying
> another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to also be a Toyota.
> Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a good buy and Toyota
> has both well covered. Nissan, not so much - obviously.
>>
>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember when I
>
> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>
>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles were
>> Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run out of them
>> as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen renovation business
>> and he would *always* be lugging his van around full of crap along with
>> towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will all his tools every day the
>> van got used. I can't tell you what the total weight was but it was
>> always choc-a-bloc and probably close to 3 tonne, and this was in
>> suburbia where there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>
>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand km's out
>> of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out, and he would
>> see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on vans that would
>> hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease before he would off-load
>> it and move onto the next one.
>
> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie* even
> by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just drive
> between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he was doing
> 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the wheel all day
> long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>
>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates was a
>> plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I also
>> serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around the same
>> mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be about as
>> reliable as each other. The only real significant difference between
>> them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand cheaper to buy.
>
> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona? Your
> parent's place, wasn't it?

The very same. The one where he diddled his siblings. It's quite
Shakespearian really. "Bubble bubble, Darren's in trouble...".

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 18:30:06 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
>>>> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever
>>>> worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>
>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota is
>>> capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm of
>>> anything else.
>>
>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and Nissans
>> have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing. I notice
>> that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you aren't buying
>> another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to also be a
>> Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a good buy
>> and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much - obviously.
>
> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>
>>>
>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember when I
>>
>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>
>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles were
>>> Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run out of
>>> them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen renovation
>>> business and he would *always* be lugging his van around full of crap
>>> along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will all his tools
>>> every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the total weight
>>> was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close to 3 tonne, and
>>> this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>>
>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand km's
>>> out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out, and he
>>> would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on vans that
>>> would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease before he would
>>> off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>
>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he was
>> doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the wheel all
>> day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>
> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
> called facts
>
>>>
>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates was
>>> a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I also
>>> serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around the same
>>> mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be about as
>>> reliable as each other. The only real significant difference between
>>> them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand cheaper to buy.
>>
>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>
>>
>
> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to be
> working in the street!

Well where else would you expect to find a guttersnipe?

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:56:01 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>>> of anything else.
>>>>
>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>>> obviously.
>>>
>>>
>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>
>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>> when I
>>>>
>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>
>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>>> start driving.
>>>>>
>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>
>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>
>>>
>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>>> called facts
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>>
>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>> be working in the street!
>>>
>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>
>>
>
> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4

And this is the actual address. https://tinyurl.com/23ubcexn (#25). The
actual business address of NA of A that is.

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On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 18:18:35 UTC+11, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:32:31 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> > On 17/12/2021 12:30 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > > On 17/12/21 11:20 am, Noddy wrote:
> >
> > >> It's a bit like Henry Ford with his Model T, and buyers being able to
> > >> have any colour they liked as long as it was black.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > It seems to be what a lot of car buyers want, just reliable transport
> > > and Toyota excel at providing that, rarely do they make anything exciting.
> > No, but then they don't make anything that's any more reliable than that
> > of anyone else either. Despite popular myth that originated with their
> > exceptionally good marketing department, Toyota makes their problematic
> > cars just the same as anyone else.
> >
> > Ask anyone with an IFS Hilux how many front axle seals they've had to
> > change because of the poorly designed offset axle housing that has zero
> > support for the short shaft CV joint, or in fact anyone in the class
> > action against Toyota over their handling of the diesel particulate
> > filter issue for example.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ask the IFS owners how they performed O/R.....Easy, they *Didn`t!!. Wet grass would stop them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I take that back, was thinking of IFS Rodeos. :(

> > > Old saying amongst 4WDers, "if you want to go bush take a Land Rover, if
> > > you want to come back take a Toyota":-)
> > It must be an old saying, as I think the last truly capable and fairly
> > reliable off road vehicle Toyota made was the FJ40. They were truly
> > rock solid and virtually unstoppable. Everything since then has been
> > pretty soft :)
> > --
> > --
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Noddy.

On 20/12/2021 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:39:31 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
> snip bullshit
>
>> I can remember when I used to service my old man's work vans.
> snip more bullshit
>
>> This was on vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a
>> 3 year lease before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
> Couple of things here Fraudster.
>
> 1. As an unqualified wannabee, you would have voided the warranty by
> servicing anything on a lease.
> 2. 400km over a three year lease for an owner operator who, according to
> you, only ever advertised in the local paper?(a)

maths was never noddy's forte. 400k klms a year is 11,111 klms a month,
or 2,564 klms a week, or 365.30 klms a day. so traveling 365.30 klms @
an average (say) 60 klms an hour would take 6 hours out of his working
day. so where/when did he work? he would have spent most of his day
driving to jobs, which would be very unusual for someone who only
advertises locally and would therefore be working locally. the pile just
keeps getting bigger..

> 3. As NA of A in the Slough Estate never existed, where did you do these
> services? Or when you say "serviced", do you mean "washed"?
>
>
> (a) "I learnt that lesson from my father who worked for himself for 50
> years and made a good living doing nothing more than having an ad in the
> "tradies" section of the local paper". Fraudster 09Jul19
>
> Der Der really should begin these anecdotes, 'Once upon a time...'.
>
>
> alvey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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On 19/12/2021 9:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/12/21 8:56 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and
>>>>>>>> still perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage,
>>>>>>>> and the brakes were working as well as they always have. This
>>>>>>>> is a fairly heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's
>>>>>>>> always stopped exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and
>>>>>>>> to get this level of service life out of front brakes on any
>>>>>>>> vehicle today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors
>>>>>> would have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and
>>>>>> possibly even another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates
>>>>>> they're showing. Country living probably helps, but the point is
>>>>>> anything a Toyota is capable of doing is not exclusive to them
>>>>>> and beyond the realm of anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is
>>>>> showing. I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your
>>>>> Navara you aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th
>>>>> is likely to also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors
>>>>> that make a car a good buy and Toyota has both well covered.
>>>>> Nissan, not so much - obviously.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>>
>>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>>> when I
>>>>>
>>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van
>>>>>> around full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie"
>>>>>> trailer will all his tools every day the van got used. I can't
>>>>>> tell you what the total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc
>>>>>> and probably close to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where
>>>>>> there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was
>>>>>> on vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year
>>>>>> lease before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>>
>>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a
>>>>> *lie* even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did
>>>>> he just drive between job sites just for the heck of it.
>>>>> Certainly, if he was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have
>>>>> been behind the wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying
>>>> things called facts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10
>>>>>> grand cheaper to buy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>>> be working in the street!
>>>>
>>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
>> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4
>>
>>
> Still large enough for dual occupancy though. That indicates block
> sizes of ~600+SqM.
>

yes i suppose a small house on a block that size would allow for a side
driveway and room at the rear for a large 'tin shed' workshop. but then
what about council regulations??

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On 20/12/2021 6:46 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 18:30:06 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much stop
>>>>> start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have ever
>>>>> worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota is
>>>> capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm of
>>>> anything else.
>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and Nissans
>>> have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing. I notice
>>> that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you aren't buying
>>> another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to also be a
>>> Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a good buy
>>> and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much - obviously.
>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>
>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember when I
>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>
>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles were
>>>> Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run out of
>>>> them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen renovation
>>>> business and he would *always* be lugging his van around full of crap
>>>> along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will all his tools
>>>> every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the total weight
>>>> was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close to 3 tonne, and
>>>> this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop start driving.
>>>>
>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand km's
>>>> out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out, and he
>>>> would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on vans that
>>>> would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease before he would
>>>> off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he was
>>> doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the wheel all
>>> day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>> called facts
>>
>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates was
>>>> a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I also
>>>> serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around the same
>>>> mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be about as
>>>> reliable as each other. The only real significant difference between
>>>> them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand cheaper to buy.
>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>
>>>
>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to be
>> working in the street!
> Well where else would you expect to find a guttersnipe?

well that term brings up memories. growing up in a working class area
attending public school, I had a teacher who at times would lose his
cool and call us 'filthy little guttersnipes'.  wouldn't happen today I
guess. maybe he was from a more upmarket area and resented having to
teach brats like us, lol.

>
>
> alvey
>

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On 20/12/2021 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:56:01 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>>>> of anything else.
>>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>>>> obviously.
>>>>
>>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>>
>>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>>> when I
>>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>>>> start driving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>>
>>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>>>> called facts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>>> be working in the street!
>>>>
>>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
>> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4
> And this is the actual address. https://tinyurl.com/23ubcexn (#25). The
> actual business address of NA of A that is.

those are large blocks. do you know what house number? (just curious)

>
> alvey
>

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On Sunday, 19 December 2021 at 20:59:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 8:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
> > On 19/12/21 6:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> snip boring.
> >>>
> >>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
> >>>
> >>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant,
> >>> incredibly
> >>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
> >>> stupendously grandiose claims.
> >>>
> >>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
> >>> Or your Grange collection?
> >>> Sunshine Coast property?
> >>> Qualifications?
> >>> Drag racing action shots?
> >>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
> >>
> >>
> >> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should
> >> be public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
> >>
> > As long as the number can be seen. Certificates can be faked, that
> > number cannot. A query to the relevant body will attach a *name* to
> > any number Darren supplies (should be 2 according to claims) or verify
> > a name/number combination. That's why I *know* he has no trade papers
> > of any sort. He'd have flashed them here and shot me down in flames
> > *in an instant* - if he could. But he can't. FFS, he even tried to
> > claim he did his auto machining training in-house at Repco. It was
> > Repco who was the prime mover behind the push to gazette auto
> > machining as a trade and set up a training facility for it. And you
> > think Repco wouldn't use such a facility once it was completed? Of
> > course they would - and did - and my teaching colleagues worked in
> > that department. This is the sort of detail where Darren comes unstuck
> > - you actually had to have been an auto machining apprentice to know
> > what went on in the training regime.
> yes, which is why his claims seem credible to those (like me) outside
> the industry , but not insiders like yourself. :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*Insider?* cunt has *never* been one.! Just another theory laden chalky.
All he`s good?? for is showing just how mind numbingly fixated one can get.
Mind you he is ably assisted by the other fixated old cunts in here.


> --
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> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
~~
That one is simply a deluded old has been.
Actually, *never been* is a more correct observation. An O2 thief of the first water.

On 20/12/2021 11:13 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/12/2021 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:56:01 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>>>>> of anything else.
>>>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>>>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>>>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>>>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>>>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>>>>> obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>>>
>>>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>>>>> start driving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>>>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>>>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>>>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>>>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>>>
>>>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>>>>> called facts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>>>> be working in the street!
>>>>>
>>>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4
>> And this is the actual address. https://tinyurl.com/23ubcexn (#25). The
>> actual business address of NA of A that is.
>
>
> those are large blocks. do you know what house number? (just curious)
>
>

sorry, I guess it's number 25

>>
>> alvey
>>
>

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On Sunday, 19 December 2021 at 18:20:09 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
> >
> > snip boring.
> >
> > Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
> >
> > Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant, incredibly
> > insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
> > stupendously grandiose claims.
> >
> > How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
> > Or your Grange collection?
> > Sunshine Coast property?
> > Qualifications?
> > Drag racing action shots?
> > Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should be
> public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
> >
> > Seeing your siblings on Xmas Day are you Fraudster? Or have they all turned
> > their back on you since you diddled them out of their inheritance?
> >
> > Oty Fraudster!
> >
> >
> >
> > alvey
> > "I enjoy *very* fine food and don't mind paying a pretty penny for it...".
> he buys the supersize meal at Maccas! :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But only on pension day.. Makes a change from two minute noodles..

> > One of my Fraudster Faves. A serious contender for the funniest thing he's
> > ever claimed.
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 11:13:39 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 20/12/2021 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:56:01 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/12/2021 8:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/21 6:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 19/12/2021 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/12/21 12:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/12/2021 12:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/12/21 10:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As can be seen in the second photo, there's still around 4mm of
>>>>>>>>> friction material left before you hit the wear indicators. The
>>>>>>>>> rotors themselves were a millimeter above minimum spec and still
>>>>>>>>> perfectly serviceable without any heat marks or warpage, and the
>>>>>>>>> brakes were working as well as they always have. This is a fairly
>>>>>>>>> heavy vehicle that has big 320mm rotors and it's always stopped
>>>>>>>>> exceptionally well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's also 10 years old with 121 thousand km's on the dial, and to
>>>>>>>>> get this level of service life out of front brakes on any vehicle
>>>>>>>>> today is outstanding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even by Toyota's standards :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Their longevity could be due partly to where we live, not much
>>>>>>>> stop start and plenty of longish hwy trips, non of our cars have
>>>>>>>> ever worn out their brakes quickly.
>>>>>>> Possibly. No doubt in my mind that these Navara pads & rotors would
>>>>>>> have comfortably gone another 10 thousand km's, and possibly even
>>>>>>> another 20 given the remarkably low wear rates they're showing.
>>>>>>> Country living probably helps, but the point is anything a Toyota
>>>>>>> is capable of doing is not exclusive to them and beyond the realm
>>>>>>> of anything else.
>>>>>> So pray tell why Toyota has a reputation for *reliability and
>>>>>> Nissans have, well, a *bad* reputation. Your Toyota envy is showing.
>>>>>> I notice that you have had such a bad run out of your Navara you
>>>>>> aren't buying another. I'm on my 3rd Toyota and my 4th is likely to
>>>>>> also be a Toyota. Reliability and TCO, two factors that make a car a
>>>>>> good buy and Toyota has both well covered. Nissan, not so much -
>>>>>> obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> I buy what I like, and can afford; or rather what I want to spend.
>>>>>
>>>> Ditto and I like *reliability* above all else.
>>>>>>> And I'm not singing Nissan's praises here, either. I can remember
>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> You're not alone, nobody else does either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> used to service my old man's work vans. His last 3 or 4 vehicles
>>>>>>> were Mitsubishi Express vans and he had an exceptionally good run
>>>>>>> out of them as did most people. He was in the bathroom & Kitchen
>>>>>>> renovation business and he would *always* be lugging his van around
>>>>>>> full of crap along with towing a fully loaded "tradie" trailer will
>>>>>>> all his tools every day the van got used. I can't tell you what the
>>>>>>> total weight was but it was always choc-a-bloc and probably close
>>>>>>> to 3 tonne, and this was in suburbia where there was plenty of stop
>>>>>>> start driving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He did lots of miles, yet he would routinely get 80-90 thousand
>>>>>>> km's out of a set of front pads. Rear shoes would never wear out,
>>>>>>> and he would see 300 thousand or more out of a clutch. This was on
>>>>>>> vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a 3 year lease
>>>>>>> before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>>>>> 400k on a three year lease Darren? That sounds way too rich a *lie*
>>>>>> even by *your standards*. Did your father do any work or did he just
>>>>>> drive between job sites just for the heck of it. Certainly, if he
>>>>>> was doing 130k+ per year, he would have to have been behind the
>>>>>> wheel all day long. How did he squeeze any work in?
>>>>>
>>>>> poor ol'derro is always tripping tripping over those annoying things
>>>>> called facts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tradies vans tend to get abused like that. One of his best mates
>>>>>>> was a plumber who worked with him a lot who had a Hi-Ace which I
>>>>>>> also serviced, and that never did any better. It would get around
>>>>>>> the same mileage out of pads and clutches, they both seemed to be
>>>>>>> about as reliable as each other. The only real significant
>>>>>>> difference between them was that the Mitsubishi was around 10 grand
>>>>>>> cheaper to buy.
>>>>>> You serviced his van - in your little backyard business in Altona?
>>>>>> Your parent's place, wasn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> housing allotments in that area are not large. he would have had to
>>>>> be working in the street!
>>>>>
>>>> That would not surprise me in the least!  ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> afaik this is roughly the area. you can see the housing density.
>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc885vz4
>> And this is the actual address. https://tinyurl.com/23ubcexn (#25). The
>> actual business address of NA of A that is.
>
> those are large blocks. do you know what house number? (just curious)

Errrr. That'd be "(#25)".

Current Streetview shows it as something expensive under construction. The
area has become very popular since Der Der left. And btw, check out the gap
between the place under construction and the house on its left. I don't
know about SA, WA & Tas, but this is now horribly common in the Eastern
capitals.

alvey

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 11:00:41 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 20/12/2021 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:39:31 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> snip bullshit
>>
>>> I can remember when I used to service my old man's work vans.
>> snip more bullshit
>>
>>> This was on vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a
>>> 3 year lease before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>> Couple of things here Fraudster.
>>
>> 1. As an unqualified wannabee, you would have voided the warranty by
>> servicing anything on a lease.
>> 2. 400km over a three year lease for an owner operator who, according to
>> you, only ever advertised in the local paper?(a)
>
> maths was never noddy's forte. 400k klms a year is 11,111 klms a month,
> or 2,564 klms a week, or 365.30 klms a day. so traveling 365.30 klms @
> an average (say) 60 klms an hour would take 6 hours out of his working
> day. so where/when did he work? he would have spent most of his day
> driving to jobs, which would be very unusual for someone who only
> advertises locally and would therefore be working locally. the pile just
> keeps getting bigger..

Would you like to revise your opinion on the Fraudster's 'credible claims'
now?

alvey

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On 20/12/2021 11:38 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 December 2021 at 18:20:09 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> snip boring.
>>>
>>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
>>>
>>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant, incredibly
>>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
>>> stupendously grandiose claims.
>>>
>>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
>>> Or your Grange collection?
>>> Sunshine Coast property?
>>> Qualifications?
>>> Drag racing action shots?
>>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
>> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should be
>> public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
>>> Seeing your siblings on Xmas Day are you Fraudster? Or have they all turned
>>> their back on you since you diddled them out of their inheritance?
>>>
>>> Oty Fraudster!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>> "I enjoy *very* fine food and don't mind paying a pretty penny for it...".
>> he buys the supersize meal at Maccas! :)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> But only on pension day.. Makes a change from two minute noodles..

Ooooh... that won't earn you any brownie points from your idol

>>> One of my Fraudster Faves. A serious contender for the funniest thing he's
>>> ever claimed.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
>> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

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On 20/12/2021 12:18 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 11:00:41 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 20/12/2021 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 12:39:31 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> snip bullshit
>>>
>>>> I can remember when I used to service my old man's work vans.
>>> snip more bullshit
>>>
>>>> This was on vans that would hit 400k km's over the course of a
>>>> 3 year lease before he would off-load it and move onto the next one.
>>> Couple of things here Fraudster.
>>>
>>> 1. As an unqualified wannabee, you would have voided the warranty by
>>> servicing anything on a lease.
>>> 2. 400km over a three year lease for an owner operator who, according to
>>> you, only ever advertised in the local paper?(a)
>> maths was never noddy's forte. 400k klms a year is 11,111 klms a month,
>> or 2,564 klms a week, or 365.30 klms a day. so traveling 365.30 klms @
>> an average (say) 60 klms an hour would take 6 hours out of his working
>> day. so where/when did he work? he would have spent most of his day
>> driving to jobs, which would be very unusual for someone who only
>> advertises locally and would therefore be working locally. the pile just
>> keeps getting bigger..
> Would you like to revise your opinion on the Fraudster's 'credible claims'
> now?
>

I didn't say all or any of his claims were credible, only that his
stories (often) appear credible. and by 'credible' I meant they sounded
like they were true or really happened. but of course some do smell like
rotting fish.

> alvey
>

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On 20/12/21 11:17 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 December 2021 at 20:59:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/12/2021 8:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/12/21 6:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 19/12/2021 7:13 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 22:46:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> snip boring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhhh Fraudster, you've done it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once more you've leapt into action to try and make some pissant,
>>>>> incredibly
>>>>> insignificant point, yet you won't provide any proof of any of your
>>>>> stupendously grandiose claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about a few pix of the fabled NA of A?
>>>>> Or your Grange collection?
>>>>> Sunshine Coast property?
>>>>> Qualifications?
>>>>> Drag racing action shots?
>>>>> Happy snaps from Japan and USA?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> or scan his trade certificates and post them. after all, they should
>>>> be public info since he 'works' as a motor mechanic
>>>>
>>> As long as the number can be seen. Certificates can be faked, that
>>> number cannot. A query to the relevant body will attach a *name* to
>>> any number Darren supplies (should be 2 according to claims) or verify
>>> a name/number combination. That's why I *know* he has no trade papers
>>> of any sort. He'd have flashed them here and shot me down in flames
>>> *in an instant* - if he could. But he can't. FFS, he even tried to
>>> claim he did his auto machining training in-house at Repco. It was
>>> Repco who was the prime mover behind the push to gazette auto
>>> machining as a trade and set up a training facility for it. And you
>>> think Repco wouldn't use such a facility once it was completed? Of
>>> course they would - and did - and my teaching colleagues worked in
>>> that department. This is the sort of detail where Darren comes unstuck
>>> - you actually had to have been an auto machining apprentice to know
>>> what went on in the training regime.
>> yes, which is why his claims seem credible to those (like me) outside
>> the industry , but not insiders like yourself. :)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> *Insider?* cunt has *never* been one.!

Never seen any evidence that showed Xeno has any qualifications.

Just another theory laden chalky.

Very little hands experience that's for sure.

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