Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (around two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term ownership, but in reality are both a form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown can take back your land if it is deemed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land. Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all. No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure over land that the Crown has a superior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the
>>>>>>> certificate is proof of title, as opposed to the old English system
>>>>>>> where you have to prove the chain of ownership.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>>>
>>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>
>>>>>>> It is named after the guy in Adelaide who invented it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is what it says on the certificate of title:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I certify that the person described in the First Schedule is the
>>>>>>>>> registered proprietor on an estate in fee simple (or such other
>>>>>>>>> estate or interest as set forth in that Schedule)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which just happens to be freehold, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you admit it is fee simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Its freehold.
>>>>
>>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>>>
>>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore it is a feudal tenure.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> Yep. What does fee simple mean then?
>>>>
>>>> Its freehold, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Freehold is a feudal tenure as well, seeing as it's the same as fee
>>> simple.
>>
>> No it isn't.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>
>>>>>>> You have just to have accept that you only have feudal tenure over
>>>>>>> your land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I rubbed your stupid nose in the
>>>>>> fact that I actually have freehold title.
>>>>
>>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple.
>>>>
>>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>
>>> So what. Doesn't mean they aren't the same thing.
>>
>> It spells out that they are quite different.