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Re: OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics in the USA

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Subject: Re: OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard
right politics in the USA
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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 03:23 UTC

On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 12:27:16 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> > petzl wrote
> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> >> >> Just like most religions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And that of atheist.
> >> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
> >> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
> >> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
> >> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
> >> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
> >> >
> >> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
> >> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no commandments
> >> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
> >> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to kill;
> >> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do not
> >> >kill
> >> >
> >> Well said
> >
> > Thanks.
> > As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh,their actions lie in
> > their programming and control.
>
> Its you theists who have been programed by your religion, fool.

They are not theists of any sort, dumbfuck.
They are badly programmed robots, controlled by devils.
Like you, Rod3po.
Go get rebooted with Arindamic software.

> > Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism,
> > atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.
> Just like you theists do...
> > Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of
> > egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya
> > etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.
> And with the partition of India, and the religious wars in europe.

Re: OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics in the USA

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 05:06 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > petzl wrote
>> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >> >> Just like most religions.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And that of atheist.
>> >> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>> >> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>> >> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>> >> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
>> >> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>> >> >
>> >> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
>> >> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no
>> commandments
>> >> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
>> >> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to kill;
>> >> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do
>> not
>> >> >kill
>> >> >
>> >> Well said
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> > As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh,their actions lie
>> in
>> > their programming and control.
>>
>> Its you theists who have been programed by your religion, fool.

> They are not theists of any sort,

Bullshit.

<reams of your rabid theist stinking curry muncher shit flushed where it
belongs>

>> > Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism,
>> > atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.
>> Just like you theists do...
>> > Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of
>> > egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya
>> > etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.
>> And with the partition of India, and the religious wars in europe.

you got that right

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:43 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358

hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:56 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:37:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/06/2022 8:35 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>>>
>>>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>
>>>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>>>
>>> **Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>>> peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>>>
>> Like
>> Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
>> change which may change the colour of the sky.
>>
>> But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
>> collapse.”
>>
>> Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
>> mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.
>
>**Pay very close attention to the following words:
>
>You are a fucking moron.
>
>Want me to repeat it?
>
>You are a fucking moron.
>
>Flannery is a paleontologist. Flannery is NOT a climate scientist.
>
>I have ZERO interest in what a paleontologist claims about climate
>science. If I want to know about Paleontology, then I will read
>Flannery's peer-reviewed papers. Flannery has never published any
>peer-reviewed papers concerning climate science.
>
>Present your peer-reviewed evidence to prove your insane claims, or shut
>the fuck up.
>
>Clear?
>
>To recap:
>
>* You are a moron.
>* Citing a person who is not a climate science in a matter concerning
>climate science is stupid and a waste of time.
>* You need to present peer-reviewed science to justify your claims.
>* You are a moron.
>* There is no God.
>
genuine Climate scientists have been banned for telling the truth
The figures our media and so-called scientists are lies
Real Scientists and politicions in the know who tell the truth are put
on a media black list
<https://cei.org/blog/climate-study-urges-blacklisting-of-contrarians/>
Climate Study Urges Blacklisting of Contrarians
**************
Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
in trillions of dollars a year from stupid governments taxpayers
https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc?t=10
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:20 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:43:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>
>hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>
Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.
The trains are ready the track is not, meaning the full speed of the
VFT to Newcastle will be limited to 20 Kph in parts.
Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.
Learn Chinese QUICK
--
Petzl
The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country.
All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and
vice versa, preferences at election time.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:51 UTC

On 1/06/2022 5:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:37:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 1/06/2022 8:35 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>>>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>>>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>>>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>>>>
>>>> **Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>>>> peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>>>>
>>> Like
>>> Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
>>> change which may change the colour of the sky.
>>>
>>> But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
>>> collapse.”
>>>
>>> Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
>>> mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.
>>
>> **Pay very close attention to the following words:
>>
>> You are a fucking moron.
>>
>> Want me to repeat it?
>>
>> You are a fucking moron.
>>
>> Flannery is a paleontologist. Flannery is NOT a climate scientist.
>>
>> I have ZERO interest in what a paleontologist claims about climate
>> science. If I want to know about Paleontology, then I will read
>> Flannery's peer-reviewed papers. Flannery has never published any
>> peer-reviewed papers concerning climate science.
>>
>> Present your peer-reviewed evidence to prove your insane claims, or shut
>> the fuck up.
>>
>> Clear?
>>
>> To recap:
>>
>> * You are a moron.
>> * Citing a person who is not a climate science in a matter concerning
>> climate science is stupid and a waste of time.
>> * You need to present peer-reviewed science to justify your claims.
>> * You are a moron.
>> * There is no God.
>>
> genuine Climate scientists have been banned for telling the truth

**Bullshit. Cite.

> The figures our media and so-called scientists are lies
> Real Scientists and politicions in the know who tell the truth are put
> on a media black list
> <https://cei.org/blog/climate-study-urges-blacklisting-of-contrarians/>
> Climate Study Urges Blacklisting of Contrarians
> **************
> Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
> in trillions of dollars a year from stupid governments taxpayers
> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc?t=10

**Bullshit.

Still waiting for your peer-reviewed data to prove your points moron.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 10:00 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358

>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle

> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.

There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.

> The trains are ready

There are no VFT trains ready in this country.

> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will be
> limited to 20 Kph in parts.

There is no VFT in this country.

> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.

Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...

> Learn Chinese QUICK

No need, you watch.

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 12:23 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 20:00:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>
>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>
>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.
>
>There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>

you are not that dumb
There is almost no point in voting for independents
putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
next choice. If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
Labor

>> The trains are ready
>
>There are no VFT trains ready in this country.
>
They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.

>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will be
>> limited to 20 Kph in parts.
>
>There is no VFT in this country.
>
Depends what you rate as a VFT the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.

>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.
>
>Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...
>
At least trump was elected.
The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
votes or justice don't matter
>
>> Learn Chinese QUICK
>
>No need, you watch.
>
I'm watching
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 12:26 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 19:51:21 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/06/2022 5:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:37:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/06/2022 8:35 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>>>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>>>>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>>>>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>>>>>
>>>>> **Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>>>>> peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>>>>>
>>>> Like
>>>> Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
>>>> change which may change the colour of the sky.
>>>>
>>>> But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
>>>> collapse.”
>>>>
>>>> Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
>>>> mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.
>>>
>>> **Pay very close attention to the following words:
>>>
>>> You are a fucking moron.
>>>
>>> Want me to repeat it?
>>>
>>> You are a fucking moron.
>>>
>>> Flannery is a paleontologist. Flannery is NOT a climate scientist.
>>>
>>> I have ZERO interest in what a paleontologist claims about climate
>>> science. If I want to know about Paleontology, then I will read
>>> Flannery's peer-reviewed papers. Flannery has never published any
>>> peer-reviewed papers concerning climate science.
>>>
>>> Present your peer-reviewed evidence to prove your insane claims, or shut
>>> the fuck up.
>>>
>>> Clear?
>>>
>>> To recap:
>>>
>>> * You are a moron.
>>> * Citing a person who is not a climate science in a matter concerning
>>> climate science is stupid and a waste of time.
>>> * You need to present peer-reviewed science to justify your claims.
>>> * You are a moron.
>>> * There is no God.
>>>
>> genuine Climate scientists have been banned for telling the truth
>
>**Bullshit. Cite.
>
>> The figures our media and so-called scientists are lies
>> Real Scientists and politicions in the know who tell the truth are put
>> on a media black list
>> <https://cei.org/blog/climate-study-urges-blacklisting-of-contrarians/>
>> Climate Study Urges Blacklisting of Contrarians
>> **************
>> Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
>> in trillions of dollars a year from stupid governments taxpayers
>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc?t=10
>
>**Bullshit.
>
>Still waiting for your peer-reviewed data to prove your points moron.
>
You are not waiting already given accurate cites.
here is the media blacklist by the ministry of truh,
https://climatlas.com/tropical/media_cloud_list.txt
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

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On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 15:07:06 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> > petzl wrote
> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> >> >> >> Just like most religions.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > And that of atheist.
> >> >> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
> >> >> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
> >> >> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
> >> >> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
> >> >> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
> >> >> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no
> >> commandments
> >> >> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
> >> >> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to kill;
> >> >> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do
> >> not
> >> >> >kill
> >> >> >
> >> >> Well said
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh,their actions lie
> >> in
> >> > their programming and control.
> >>
> >> Its you theists who have been programed by your religion, fool.
>
> > They are not theists of any sort,
> Bullshit.
>
> <reams of your rabid theist stinking curry muncher shit flushed where it
> belongs>

Surly robot Rod3po is incorrigible. Needs rewiring.

> >> > Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism,
> >> > atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.
> >> Just like you theists do...
> >> > Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of
> >> > egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya
> >> > etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.
> >> And with the partition of India, and the religious wars in europe.

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 by: Mattb - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:36 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 05:20:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 03:51:22 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 11:52:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:26:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 06:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 19:47:47 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:45:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:02:19 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 05:58:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 04:49:16 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:50:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:26:21 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:57:52 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mattb wrote on 28/5/22 4:51 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empire,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusive??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god are pagans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!! As I was brought up, that was the whole 'raison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d'être'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope!! An Interface for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK here are some Pope quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with church dogma must be burned without pity."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope Innocent III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't bother with that anymore, and that isn't just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the mess it makes in the town square.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Popes are or are not this "Interface for God"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It hasnt been that black and white for a long time now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It never was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on many Pagan principles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it just pinched a few of the myths like Noah
>>>>>>>>>>> and some cermonial ocassions. Never any pagan
>>>>>>>>>>> principles apart from a few like marriage etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are so full of shit here it isn't funny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'll see who that is true of...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even the outfits the Popes wore,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, popes wear clothes, just like pagans do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> even the Popes title,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> even the day they claimed Jesus was born.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is just pinching that pagan ceremonial date.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then there is communion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fuck all pagans have anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Theh list goes on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and has been a group of killers for centuries,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just like most religions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that of atheist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>>>>>>>>> kill because they are imposing their approach
>>>>>>>>> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are so much like theist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To murder is to murder.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist murdered because another did not agree with their belief.
>>>>>
>>>>> But not because they weren't atheists.
>>>>
>>>> So you claim.
>>>
>>> So history proves.
>
>> No
>
>Fraid so.


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:43 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358

>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle

>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.

>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.

> you are not that dumb

But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
spews.

> There is almost no point in voting for independents

Irrelevant to what a preferential system is designed to do.

> putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
> your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
> next choice.

And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.

> If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
> they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
> Labor

And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.

>>> The trains are ready

>> There are no VFT trains ready in this country.

> They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.

The tracks can't.

>>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will
>>> be limited to 20 Kph in parts.

>> There is no VFT in this country.

> Depends what you rate as a VFT

Nope.

> the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
> capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.

There are no such rail tracks in this country.

>>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
>>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.

>> Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...

> At least trump was elected.

Only the once and then he lost the second election.

> The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
> votes or justice don't matter

How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed believe that stupid
lie.

>>> Learn Chinese QUICK

>> No need, you watch.

> I'm watching

They speak english, stupid.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:45 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 23:15:41 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 15:07:06 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> > petzl wrote
>> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Just like most religions.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And that of atheist.
>> >> >> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>> >> >> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>> >> >> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>> >> >> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
>> >> >> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
>> >> >> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no
>> >> commandments
>> >> >> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
>> >> >> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to
>> kill;
>> >> >> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do
>> >> not
>> >> >> >kill
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Well said
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> > As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh,their actions
>> lie
>> >> in
>> >> > their programming and control.
>> >>
>> >> Its you theists who have been programed by your religion, fool.
>>
>> > They are not theists of any sort,
>> Bullshit.

<reams of your rabid theist stinking curry muncher shit flushed where it
belongs>

>> >> > Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism,
>> >> > atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.
>> >> Just like you theists do...
>> >> > Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of
>> >> > egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria,
>> Libya
>> >> > etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.
>> >> And with the partition of India, and the religious wars in europe.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:52 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 03:36:14 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 05:20:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 03:51:22 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 11:52:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:26:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 06:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 19:47:47 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44:46 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:45:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:02:19 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 05:58:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 04:49:16 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:50:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:26:21 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:57:52 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mattb wrote on 28/5/22 4:51 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empire,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusive??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god are pagans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!! As I was brought up, that was the whole 'raison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d'être'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope!! An Interface for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK here are some Pope quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with church dogma must be burned without pity."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope Innocent III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't bother with that anymore, and that isn't just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the mess it makes in the town square.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Popes are or are not this "Interface for God"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It hasnt been that black and white for a long time now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It never was
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on many Pagan principles
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it just pinched a few of the myths like Noah
>>>>>>>>>>>> and some cermonial ocassions. Never any pagan
>>>>>>>>>>>> principles apart from a few like marriage etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are so full of shit here it isn't funny.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'll see who that is true of...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even the outfits the Popes wore,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, popes wear clothes, just like pagans do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> even the Popes title,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> even the day they claimed Jesus was born.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is just pinching that pagan ceremonial date.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then there is communion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fuck all pagans have anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Theh list goes on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and has been a group of killers for centuries,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like most religions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And that of atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>>>>>>>>>> kill because they are imposing their approach
>>>>>>>>>> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are so much like theist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To murder is to murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Atheist murdered because another did not agree with their belief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not because they weren't atheists.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you claim.
>>>>
>>>> So history proves.
>>
>>> No
>>
>> Fraid so.
>
> Sorry, you are wrong.


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 by: Trevor Wilson - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:45 UTC

On 1/06/2022 10:26 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 19:51:21 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 1/06/2022 5:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 09:37:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/06/2022 8:35 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>>>>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>>>>>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>>>>>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>>>>>> peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like
>>>>> Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
>>>>> change which may change the colour of the sky.
>>>>>
>>>>> But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
>>>>> collapse.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
>>>>> mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.
>>>>
>>>> **Pay very close attention to the following words:
>>>>
>>>> You are a fucking moron.
>>>>
>>>> Want me to repeat it?
>>>>
>>>> You are a fucking moron.
>>>>
>>>> Flannery is a paleontologist. Flannery is NOT a climate scientist.
>>>>
>>>> I have ZERO interest in what a paleontologist claims about climate
>>>> science. If I want to know about Paleontology, then I will read
>>>> Flannery's peer-reviewed papers. Flannery has never published any
>>>> peer-reviewed papers concerning climate science.
>>>>
>>>> Present your peer-reviewed evidence to prove your insane claims, or shut
>>>> the fuck up.
>>>>
>>>> Clear?
>>>>
>>>> To recap:
>>>>
>>>> * You are a moron.
>>>> * Citing a person who is not a climate science in a matter concerning
>>>> climate science is stupid and a waste of time.
>>>> * You need to present peer-reviewed science to justify your claims.
>>>> * You are a moron.
>>>> * There is no God.
>>>>
>>> genuine Climate scientists have been banned for telling the truth
>>
>> **Bullshit. Cite.
>>
>>> The figures our media and so-called scientists are lies
>>> Real Scientists and politicions in the know who tell the truth are put
>>> on a media black list
>>> <https://cei.org/blog/climate-study-urges-blacklisting-of-contrarians/>
>>> Climate Study Urges Blacklisting of Contrarians
>>> **************
>>> Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
>>> in trillions of dollars a year from stupid governments taxpayers
>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc?t=10
>>
>> **Bullshit.
>>
>> Still waiting for your peer-reviewed data to prove your points moron.
>>
> You are not waiting already given accurate cites.

**Yes, I am.

> here is the media blacklist by the ministry of truh,
> https://climatlas.com/tropical/media_cloud_list.txt

**Cite your PROOF of your claim.

Cite your PEER-REVEIWED papers to support your insane claims.

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:50 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:43:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>
>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>
>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.
>
>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>
>> you are not that dumb
>
>But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
>spews.
>
At least Trump was voted in
Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
Democrats won

>> There is almost no point in voting for independents
>
>Irrelevant to what a preferential system is designed to do.
>
They set up popular independents and swap preference deals Labor was
better at this, this election.

>> putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
>> your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
>> next choice.
>
>And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>
Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
what they voted for
>
>> If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
>> they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
>> Labor
>
>And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>
Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
what they voted for

>>>> The trains are ready
>
>>> There are no VFT trains ready in this country.
>
>> They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.
>
>The tracks can't.

Correct
>
>>>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will
>>>> be limited to 20 Kph in parts.
>
>>> There is no VFT in this country.
>
>> Depends what you rate as a VFT
>
>Nope.
>
Very Fast Train (VFT) joint venture — This speed is just above the
internationally accepted definition of high-speed rail of 200 km/h
(124 mph).
Until the tracks are repaired it is not safe to travel at this speed.

Albo PROMISED a VFT to from Newcastle. He is relying that most people
don't know the problem is poor track maintenance.

>> the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
>> capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.
>
>There are no such rail tracks in this country.
>
Yes

>>>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
>>>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.
>
>>> Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...
>
>> At least trump was elected.
>
>Only the once and then he lost the second election.
>
The second election was stolen and has been proved time and time
again.
Biden even had 19 children murdered to try to get the 2nd amendment
removed
The police were under orders by Biden's thugs to stand don stop the
children from being rescued and allow the slaughter!
Border Patrol intercepted 911 calls made by children that they had
been shot, They sent some to see what was happen and ignoring Biden's
controlled "police" went in the school and shot the loon.
Rewarded by Biden
Biden spits in the face of Border Patrol agents who stopped school
shooter, demands they DISARM before meeting— instead they all GO HOME
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1531634334158884864

>> The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
>> votes or justice don't matter
>
>How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed believe that stupid
>lie.
>
>>>> Learn Chinese QUICK
>
>>> No need, you watch.
>
>> I'm watching
>
>They speak english, stupid.
>
Engrish
--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.

Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.

Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.

"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 21:18 UTC

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 06:45:23 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/06/2022 10:26 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 19:51:21 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
snip
>> here is the media blacklist by the ministry of truh,
>> https://climatlas.com/tropical/media_cloud_list.txt
>
>**Cite your PROOF of your claim.
>
>Cite your PEER-REVEIWED papers to support your insane claims.

Not my "PEER-REVEIWED" papers you want.
You just want nonsensical rubbish,
That has created imaginary problems
Apparently that can only be fixed by shutting down Australia!
--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.

Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.

Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.

"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 21:56 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>>
>>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>>
>>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.
>>
>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>>
>>> you are not that dumb
>>
>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
>> spews.

> At least Trump was voted in
> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
> Democrats won

Even the judges Trump appointed do.

>>> There is almost no point in voting for independents

>> Irrelevant to what a preferential system is designed to do.

> They set up popular independents and swap preference deals Labor was
> better at this, this election.

Labor didnt win because they got the preferences of "independants"

>>> putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
>>> your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
>>> next choice.
>>
>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>
> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
> what they voted for

Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
if their primary vote didnt win.

>>> If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
>>> they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
>>> Labor
>>
>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>
> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
> what they voted for

Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
if their primary vote didnt win.

>>>>> The trains are ready
>>
>>>> There are no VFT trains ready in this country.
>>
>>> They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.
>>
>> The tracks can't.
>
> Correct
>>
>>>>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will
>>>>> be limited to 20 Kph in parts.
>>
>>>> There is no VFT in this country.
>>
>>> Depends what you rate as a VFT
>>
>> Nope.
>>
> Very Fast Train (VFT) joint venture — This speed is just above the
> internationally accepted definition of high-speed rail of 200 km/h
> (124 mph).
> Until the tracks are repaired it is not safe to travel at this speed.

It needs a hell of a lot more than repair.

> Albo PROMISED a VFT to from Newcastle.

Nope, just that he would look at that.

> He is relying that most people
> don't know the problem is poor track maintenance.

Track maintenance isn't the problem. The line to Newcastle
can't do VFT speeds even if perfectly maintained.

>>> the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
>>> capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.
>>
>> There are no such rail tracks in this country.
>>
> Yes
>
>>>>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
>>>>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.
>>
>>>> Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...
>>
>>> At least trump was elected.
>>
>> Only the once and then he lost the second election.

> The second election was stolen and has been proved time and time
> again.

How odd that even the judges that Trump appointed don't buy that lie.

> Biden even had 19 children murdered to try to get the 2nd amendment
> removed

Even more flagrantly dishonest than you usually manage.

And there is no chance that the 2nd will get repealed.

> The police were under orders by Biden's thugs to stand don stop the
> children from being rescued and allow the slaughter!

Another bare faced lie. Biden doesnt get to tell town police anything.

> Border Patrol intercepted 911 calls made by children that they had
> been shot, They sent some to see what was happen and ignoring Biden's
> controlled "police"

No such animal.

> went in the school and shot the loon.
> Rewarded by Biden
> Biden spits in the face of Border Patrol agents who stopped school
> shooter, demands they DISARM before meeting— instead they all GO HOME
> https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1531634334158884864

Just because some lying arsehole claims something...

>>> The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
>>> votes or justice don't matter
>>
>> How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed believe that
>> stupid
>> lie.
>>
>>>>> Learn Chinese QUICK
>>
>>>> No need, you watch.
>>
>>> I'm watching
>>
>> They speak english, stupid.
>>
> Engrish

Wrong again. My mate's chinese wife speaks excellent english.

So does my other mate's first chinese wife.

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 by: Mattb - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:20 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>
>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>
>>>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>
>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>
>>>But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>
>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>
>>><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>
>All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>https://www.newsmax.com
>https://www.oann.com
>https://www.foxnews.com
>https://nypost.com
>https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke crap.
>Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>
>I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com

You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
facts only.

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:51 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>
>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>
>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>
>>>><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>
>>All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>https://www.newsmax.com
>>https://www.oann.com
>>https://www.foxnews.com
>>https://nypost.com
>>https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke crap.
>>Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>
>>I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>
>
> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>facts only.
>
How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp

You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property prices
up, the lefty ones talking them down.
Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.

Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..

same is so in the USA!
--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.

Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.

Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.

"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 07:56:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>>>
>>>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>>>
>>>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference votes.
>>>
>>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>>>
>>>> you are not that dumb
>>>
>>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
>>> spews.
>
>> At least Trump was voted in
>> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
>> Democrats won
>
>Even the judges Trump appointed do.
>
At least Trump was voted in

>>>> There is almost no point in voting for independents
>
>>> Irrelevant to what a preferential system is designed to do.
>
>> They set up popular independents and swap preference deals Labor was
>> better at this, this election.
>
>Labor didnt win because they got the preferences of "independants"
>
They did not win the primary vote
They got in by doing preference deals the free lefty media you read

>>>> putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
>>>> your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
>>>> next choice.
>>>
>>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>>
>> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
>> what they voted for
>
>Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
>if their primary vote didnt win.
>
Did have a video showing using marbles how preferences (marbles) end
up in the duopoly parties. but you can look one up

>>>> If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
>>>> they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
>>>> Labor
>>>
>>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>>
>> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
>> what they voted for
>
>Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
>if their primary vote didnt win.
>
Did have a video showing using marbles how preferences (marbles) end
up in the duopoly parties. but you can look one up

>>>>>> The trains are ready
>>>
>>>>> There are no VFT trains ready in this country.
>>>
>>>> They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.
>>>
>>> The tracks can't.
>>
>> Correct
>>>
>>>>>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle will
>>>>>> be limited to 20 Kph in parts.
>>>
>>>>> There is no VFT in this country.
>>>
>>>> Depends what you rate as a VFT
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>> Very Fast Train (VFT) joint venture — This speed is just above the
>> internationally accepted definition of high-speed rail of 200 km/h
>> (124 mph).
>> Until the tracks are repaired it is not safe to travel at this speed.
>
>It needs a hell of a lot more than repair.
>
>> Albo PROMISED a VFT to from Newcastle.
>
>Nope, just that he would look at that.
>
>> He is relying that most people
>> don't know the problem is poor track maintenance.
>
>Track maintenance isn't the problem. The line to Newcastle
>can't do VFT speeds even if perfectly maintained.
>
>>>> the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
>>>> capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.
>>>
>>> There are no such rail tracks in this country.
>>>
>> Yes
>>
>>>>>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which we
>>>>>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at all.
>>>
>>>>> Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...
>>>
>>>> At least trump was elected.
>>>
>>> Only the once and then he lost the second election.
>
>> The second election was stolen and has been proved time and time
>> again.
>
>How odd that even the judges that Trump appointed don't buy that lie.
>
>> Biden even had 19 children murdered to try to get the 2nd amendment
>> removed
>
>Even more flagrantly dishonest than you usually manage.
>
>And there is no chance that the 2nd will get repealed.
>
>> The police were under orders by Biden's thugs to stand don stop the
>> children from being rescued and allow the slaughter!
>
>Another bare faced lie. Biden doesnt get to tell town police anything.
>
>> Border Patrol intercepted 911 calls made by children that they had
>> been shot, They sent some to see what was happen and ignoring Biden's
>> controlled "police"
>
>No such animal.
>
Biden's FBI took over the local police

>> went in the school and shot the loon.
>> Rewarded by Biden
>> Biden spits in the face of Border Patrol agents who stopped school
>> shooter, demands they DISARM before meeting— instead they all GO HOME
>> https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1531634334158884864
>
>Just because some lying arsehole claims something...
>
Biden has zero credibility except as part of the worlds greatest crime
gang. He was pissed that the Border patrol stopped the killing of
school children. He feels unsafe around hero's people who know right
from wrong. They know Biden is disgracefully wrong and unelected

>>>> The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
>>>> votes or justice don't matter
>>>
>>> How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed believe that
>>> stupid
>>> lie.
>>>
>>>>>> Learn Chinese QUICK
>>>
>>>>> No need, you watch.
>>>
>>>> I'm watching
>>>
>>> They speak english, stupid.
>>>
>> Engrish
>
>Wrong again. My mate's chinese wife speaks excellent english.
>
>So does my other mate's first chinese wife.
>
I get on fine with Asian's just Moslems I'm wary of.
--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.

Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.

Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.

"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 23:17 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>>>>
>>>>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>>>>
>>>>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference
>>>>>>> votes.
>>>>
>>>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>>>>
>>>>> you are not that dumb
>>>>
>>>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
>>>> spews.
>>
>>> At least Trump was voted in
>>> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
>>> Democrats won
>>
>> Even the judges Trump appointed do.

> At least Trump was voted in

So was Biden.

>>>>> There is almost no point in voting for independents
>>
>>>> Irrelevant to what a preferential system is designed to do.
>>
>>> They set up popular independents and swap preference deals Labor was
>>> better at this, this election.
>>
>> Labor didnt win because they got the preferences of "independants"

> They did not win the primary vote

Yes they did in most of the seats they won.

> They got in by doing preference deals

Wrong, as always. They had no preference deals with anyone.

>>>>> putting the Duopolies last and numbering 1 through to 150 just means
>>>>> your vote (if candidate does not tally 50%) will pass down to your
>>>>> next choice.
>>>>
>>>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>>>
>>> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
>>> what they voted for
>>
>> Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
>> if their primary vote didnt win.

> Did have a video showing using marbles how preferences (marbles) end
> up in the duopoly parties. but you can look one up

Just because some fool claims something...

We will soon be able to see which labor candidates needed
any preferences to win their seat, from the AEC.

>>>>> If none even with preference votes added do not get 50%
>>>>> they are fed down and down till they eventually go to Coalition or
>>>>> Labor
>>>>
>>>> And that is how the system works. No rigging is involved.
>>>>
>>> Yes that is how the system works, the government the people get is not
>>> what they voted for
>>
>> Thats a lie, they voted both their primary vote and preferences
>> if their primary vote didnt win.
>>
> Did have a video showing using marbles how preferences (marbles) end
> up in the duopoly parties. but you can look one up

Just because some fool claims something...

We will soon be able to see which labor candidates needed
any preferences to win their seat, from the AEC.

>
>>>>>>> The trains are ready
>>>>
>>>>>> There are no VFT trains ready in this country.
>>>>
>>>>> They are capable of 200Kph if tracks can handle it.
>>>>
>>>> The tracks can't.
>>>
>>> Correct
>>>>
>>>>>>> the track is not, meaning the full speed of the VFTto Newcastle
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be limited to 20 Kph in parts.
>>>>
>>>>>> There is no VFT in this country.
>>>>
>>>>> Depends what you rate as a VFT
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>> Very Fast Train (VFT) joint venture — This speed is just above the
>>> internationally accepted definition of high-speed rail of 200 km/h
>>> (124 mph).
>>> Until the tracks are repaired it is not safe to travel at this speed..
>>
>> It needs a hell of a lot more than repair.
>>
>>> Albo PROMISED a VFT to from Newcastle.
>>
>> Nope, just that he would look at that.
>>
>>> He is relying that most people
>>> don't know the problem is poor track maintenance.
>>
>> Track maintenance isn't the problem. The line to Newcastle
>> can't do VFT speeds even if perfectly maintained.
>>
>>>>> the trains ready to go to Newcastle are
>>>>> capable of 200Kph on decent rail tracks.
>>>>
>>>> There are no such rail tracks in this country.
>>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>>>>> Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have never seen. We will be lucky If we end up with a country at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>>>> Just because that fool Trump claims somethiing about the USA...
>>>>
>>>>> At least trump was elected.
>>>>
>>>> Only the once and then he lost the second election.
>>
>>> The second election was stolen and has been proved time and time
>>> again.
>>
>> How odd that even the judges that Trump appointed don't buy that lie.
>>
>>> Biden even had 19 children murdered to try to get the 2nd amendment
>>> removed
>>
>> Even more flagrantly dishonest than you usually manage.
>>
>> And there is no chance that the 2nd will get repealed.
>>
>>> The police were under orders by Biden's thugs to stand don stop the
>>> children from being rescued and allow the slaughter!
>>
>> Another bare faced lie. Biden doesnt get to tell town police anything..
>>
>>> Border Patrol intercepted 911 calls made by children that they had
>>> been shot, They sent some to see what was happen and ignoring Biden's
>>> controlled "police"
>>
>> No such animal.

> Biden's FBI took over the local police

Another bare faced lie. The FBI was never involved in that hour
and don't get to take over the town police anyway.

>>> went in the school and shot the loon.
>>> Rewarded by Biden
>>> Biden spits in the face of Border Patrol agents who stopped school
>>> shooter, demands they DISARM before meeting— instead they all GO HOME
>>> https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1531634334158884864
>>
>> Just because some lying arsehole claims something...

> Biden has zero credibility except as part of the worlds greatest crime
> gang. He was pissed that the Border patrol stopped the killing of
> school children. He feels unsafe around hero's people who know right
> from wrong. They know Biden is disgracefully wrong and unelected

How odd that even the judges that Trump appointed don't.

>>>>> The democrats were not the democrt just system is weponised to ensur
>>>>> votes or justice don't matter
>>>>
>>>> How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed believe that
>>>> stupid
>>>> lie.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Learn Chinese QUICK
>>>>
>>>>>> No need, you watch.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm watching
>>>>
>>>> They speak english, stupid.
>>>>
>>> Engrish
>>
>> Wrong again. My mate's chinese wife speaks excellent english.
>>
>> So does my other mate's first chinese wife.
>>
> I get on fine with Asian's just Moslems I'm wary of.

More fool you. The ones I know are fine.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 00:14 UTC

On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 09:17:13 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference
> >>>>>>> votes.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
> >>>>
> >>>>> you are not that dumb
> >>>>
> >>>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
> >>>> spews.
> >>
> >>> At least Trump was voted in
> >>> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
> >>> Democrats won
> >>
> >> Even the judges Trump appointed do.
>
> > At least Trump was voted in
> So was Biden.

Not unlikely, he was cheated in.
They did not see any id here in Australia when I went to vote.
Just ticked my name off the register. I offered to show id, but they refused to see it.
Anyone anywhere could have done that voting, using my name and address and claiming I had not voted before.
In short, multiple voting is possible in Australia. No checks; honourable conduct is assumed.
But as I said then, this sort of voting is a joke.
Politics is intrinsically opportunistic hence implicitly dishonourable, so one must not base its success upon a honour system.

Very probably such sort of voting was done in US. No checks on id of voter, thus.
No point in recounting, to expose multiple voting corruption, for once a ballot is in, no one can say it is a fake ballot put in by interested parties.
What with covid and all, and the honour system, corruption is easy.
Honour systems work in Australia, but the US is not now a honourable society, as evidenced by
the highest regard that is paid to their celebrated pimps and prostitutes, all chanting e=mcc.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 00:29 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>>>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-01/the-loop-treasurer-jim-chalmers-budget-dire-ministry-swearing-in/101117358
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>> hopefully that will see the end of the stupid VFT to Newcastle
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> Why I don't like the duopoly rigging elections with preference
>> >>>>>>> votes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> you are not that dumb
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool
>> Trump
>> >>>> spews.
>> >>
>> >>> At least Trump was voted in
>> >>> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
>> >>> Democrats won
>> >>
>> >> Even the judges Trump appointed do.
>>
>> > At least Trump was voted in

>> So was Biden.

> Not unlikely, he was cheated in.

How odd that not even the judges that Trump appointed have ruled that.

> They did not see any id here in Australia when I went to vote.
> Just ticked my name off the register. I offered to show id, but they
> refused to see it.
> Anyone anywhere could have done that voting, using my name and address
> and claiming I had not voted before.

But those would be caught when checked for having voted more
than once and we know that there aren't enough of those to matter.

> In short, multiple voting is possible in Australia.

> No checks;

Thats a lie, they do later check that no one has voted more than once.

> honourable conduct is assumed.

Nope.

> But as I said then, this sort of voting is a joke.
> Politics is intrinsically opportunistic hence implicitly dishonourable,
> so one must not base its success upon a honour system.

But we know that multiple voting is rare.

> Very probably such sort of voting was done in US. No checks on id of
> voter, thus.

In fact some states do require an ID check.

> No point in recounting, to expose multiple voting corruption, for once a
> ballot is in, no one can say it is a fake ballot put in by interested
> parties.

But we do know that not enough of it happens to affect the result.

> What with covid and all, and the honour system, corruption is easy.

But we know that not enough of it happens to matter.

> Honour systems work in Australia, but the US is not now a honourable
> society, as evidenced by
> the highest regard that is paid to their celebrated pimps and
> prostitutes, all chanting e=mcc.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 01:04 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:14:26 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >>>>>> There is no rigging, we chose to have that system for a reason.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> you are not that dumb
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But you clearly are. Stupid enough to believe anything that fool Trump
>> >>>> spews.
>> >>
>> >>> At least Trump was voted in
>> >>> Biden crime gang fudged the vote. No one in US believes that the
>> >>> Democrats won
>> >>
>> >> Even the judges Trump appointed do.
>>
>> > At least Trump was voted in
>> So was Biden.
>
>Not unlikely, he was cheated in. They did not see any id here in Australia
> when I went to vote.
>Just ticked my name off the register. I offered to show id, but they refused to see it.
>Anyone anywhere could have done that voting, using my name and address
>and claiming I had not voted before.
>In short, multiple voting is possible in Australia. No checks;
>honourable conduct is assumed.
>But as I said then, this sort of voting is a joke.
>Politics is intrinsically opportunistic hence implicitly dishonourable,
>so one must not base its success upon a honour system.
>Very probably such sort of voting was done in US. No checks on id of
>voter, thus.
>No point in recounting, to expose multiple voting corruption, for once
>a ballot is in, no one can say it is a fake ballot put in by interested parties.
>What with covid and all, and the honour system, corruption is easy.
>Honour systems work in Australia, but the US is not now a honourable
>society, as evidenced by
>the highest regard that is paid to their celebrated pimps and
>prostitutes, all chanting e=mcc.Not unlikely, he was cheated in.
>They did not see any id here in Australia when I went to vote.
>Just ticked my name off the register. I offered to show id,
>but they refused to see it.
>
The US media is going into overdrive that vote corruption wins.
Australia seems to have fixed preferences ending up going to
Labor/greens and or Coalition
Tactics are to sponsor popular identities in close seats for
preferences. They are in case of coalition termed "teals"
(Teal independents, an Australian group of centrist green candidates)

If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the oddity that
you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count, if not his votes go to
your next "preference" assuming and usually they won't get 50% either.
Eventually your last preference then goes to their preferences, the
way it works they end up as Labor/greens and Coalition votes even if
you would not vote for them.

Very sus that the number of cars parked election day around polling
booths in Macarthur Electorate all day, they outnumbered the people
inside the polling place?
Usually a sign of stuffed ballot boxes being swapped with those from
polling station.
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

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