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Re: OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics in the USA

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard
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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 01:52 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:26:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 06:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 19:47:47 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:45:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:02:19 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 05:58:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 04:49:16 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:50:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:26:21 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:57:52 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mattb wrote on 28/5/22 4:51 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god are pagans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!! As I was brought up, that was the whole 'raison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d'être'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope!! An Interface for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK here are some Pope quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with church dogma must be burned without pity."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope Innocent III
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't bother with that anymore, and that isn't just
>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the mess it makes in the town square.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Popes are or are not this "Interface for God"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It hasnt been that black and white for a long time now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It never was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on many Pagan principles
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it just pinched a few of the myths like Noah
>>>>>>>> and some cermonial ocassions. Never any pagan
>>>>>>>> principles apart from a few like marriage etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are so full of shit here it isn't funny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll see who that is true of...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even the outfits the Popes wore,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, popes wear clothes, just like pagans do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even the Popes title,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even the day they claimed Jesus was born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is just pinching that pagan ceremonial date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there is communion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck all pagans have anything like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Theh list goes on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and has been a group of killers for centuries,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like most religions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And that of atheist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>>>>>> kill because they are imposing their approach
>>>>>> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>>>>
>>>>> They are so much like theist.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> To murder is to murder.
>>
>>> Atheist murdered because another did not agree with their belief.
>>
>> But not because they weren't atheists.
>
> So you claim.


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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 02:03 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>> Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>> called Christian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>> Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these
>>>>> countries
>>>>> wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>
>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>> they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>
>>>> Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>> heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>> our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>
>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>
>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>
>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>
>> Never seen that.
>>>>
> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
> While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
> rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
> thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
> demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
> can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.

> In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new.

More of your mindless bullshit. He proclaimed that its fine
to fuck goats but that you have to kill the goat after you have
fucked it an only sell the meat in villages other than your own.

> Everything he
> taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
> ever born.

Just as true of that fool that got nailed up by the romans.

> Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
> and the Christians. islam.htm

When there is a binary choice, one god or more
than one, someone has to invent that idea, stupid.

>>>>> you might like this link?
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>> pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>
>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>
>>> Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>
>> No more of less than any politician.
>>
> Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.

You are the devil incarnate, pure evil.

Re: how could Scomo have fought off the Teals?

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 02:06 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:39:14 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 29/05/2022 7:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 06:56:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/05/2022 10:14 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 19:51:00 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/05/2022 7:32 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If he had a marginal seat in outer suburbs, then there is always
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pork barrel: promise them a train station, swimming pool or rugby
>>>>>>> field. But what about Wentworth or Curtin? The wealthiest voters
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> harder to bribe. In Curtin, Scomo offered an expensive machine for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> public hospital within that electorate. Nothing else that I can
>>>>>>> find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He could have bribed most of the stupid teal electorates with
>>>>>> some stupid climate change bullshit,
>>>>>
>>>>> **Ummm, climate change is not bullshit. It's science. Something
>>>>> Scummo
>>>>> has no familiarity with.
>>>>>
>>>>> but ScoMo isnt that stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Well, Scummo is dumb as a pile of rocks. Remember his words:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Well, I believe in miracles."
>>>>>
>>>>> Says it all. Scummo ignores science and embraces supernatural
>>>>> claptrap.
>>>>>
>>>> June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
>>>> official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
>>>> by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
>>>> the year 2000."
>>>> Only idiots still believe

>>> And what is wrong with that statement?

>> There is no possibility what so ever that 'entire nations
>> could be wiped off the face of the Earth' except with a
>> few tiny islands whose inhabitants are free to move
>> from that tiny island. It makes no sense what so ever
>> to be spending trillions to avoid that happening.

> Points:

Nope, just more of your mindless bullshit.

> * Those tiny islands ARE entire nations.
> * As the warming continues, then other places will suffer. Places like:

> The Netherlands
> NYC
> Much of Florida
> Bangladesh
> Etc.

But won't be 'wiped off the face of the Earth', you pathetic excuse for a
lying bullshit artist.

> Spending the money now, makes more sense than spending MUCH more later.

You haven't extablished that MUCH more will be spent later, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 02:12 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:48:52 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 29/05/2022 9:07 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 06:59:07 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/05/2022 8:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> If he had a marginal seat in outer suburbs, then there is always
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pork barrel: promise them a train station, swimming pool or rugby
>>>>>>> field. But what about Wentworth or Curtin? The wealthiest voters
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> harder to bribe. In Curtin, Scomo offered an expensive machine for
>>>>>>> the public hospital within that electorate. Nothing else that I can
>>>>>>> find.
>>>>
>>>>>> He could have bribed most of the stupid teal electorates with
>>>>>> some stupid climate change bullshit,
>>>>
>>>>> Ummm, climate change is not bullshit. It's science.
>>>>
>>>> The science says that even if this country shut down all power
>>>> generation tomorrow, banned all cars and trucks and aircraft
>>>> and ships tomorrow, that would have no measurable effect on
>>>> the climate of this country.
>>>
>>> **So, according to your logic, I can dump my old engine oil into the
>>> creek that runs next to my home. After all, it's only 7 Litres of oil,
>>> going into a river that is almost 1km wide. No big deal.
>>>
>>> Fucking idiot.
>>>
>>> EVERY SINGLE person on this planet will have to make some adjustments
>>> to
>>> deal with global warming.
>>>
>>> That means every Chinese citizen, every American, every Pom and every
>>> Australian.
>>>
>>> NO EXCEPTIONS.
>>>
>> But why should Australia be the outlier around the planet when it
>> comes to reducing greenhouse emissions?
>
> Because we have (had) fuckwit COALition politicians fucking the system..
> Australia is now one of the worst CO2 emitters on the planet.

Only because we export far more coal, gas etc than most of the rest,
stupid.

>> China takes two weeks to match Australia’s yearly greenhouse emissions
>> level.
>
> China has a population of 1.4 billion. Each Chinese citizen emits far
> less than half the CO2 that each Australian does.

Because so many of them don't even heat their houses in winters
and far fewer drive cars to work or shopping, stupid.

>> India is three weeks. The US is a month.

> See above.

See above. And Albo won't be changing that, you watch.

> Australia punches well above it's weight in CO2 emissions.

Because we export far more coal, gas etc than most of the rest, stupid.

>> Are we not sabotaging our own future by signing up to a deal that most
>> of the other countries talk about, but in reality are ignoring?

> They're not ignoring it, for the most part. AUSTRALIA is.

More of your bare faced lies with solar panels which we have
far more of per head than almost anyone else.

>> China gets emissions concessions because it is a so-called
>> “developing’’ country. Seriously? Its army is bigger than Victoria.

> China's emissions, per capita are far, far lower than Australia's.

Because so many of them don't even heat their houses in winters
and far fewer drive cars to work or shopping, stupid.

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 31 May 2022 05:30 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 12:03:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>>> Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>>> called Christian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>>> Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these
>>>>>> countries
>>>>>> wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>>> they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>>> heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>>> our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>>
>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>
>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>
>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>
>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>
>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>> While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
>> rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
>> thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
>> demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
>> can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.
>
>> In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new.
>
>More of your mindless bullshit. He proclaimed that its fine
>to fuck goats but that you have to kill the goat after you have
>fucked it an only sell the meat in villages other than your own.
>
>> Everything he
>> taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
>> ever born.
>
>Just as true of that fool that got nailed up by the romans.
>
>> Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
>> and the Christians. islam.htm
>
>When there is a binary choice, one god or more
>than one, someone has to invent that idea, stupid.
>
>>>>>> you might like this link?
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>>> pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>>
>>>> Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>>
>>> No more of less than any politician.
>>>
>> Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.
>
>You are the devil incarnate, pure evil.
>
Just a Angel of God doing his dirty work
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 31 May 2022 11:18 UTC

Rod Speed wrote on 30/5/22 5:58 am:

<Snip>

> That was a joke, Joyce.

At 'work' when the 'phone rings, I'll often say 'That'll be the 'phone!'
and co-workers will look at me strangely ... 'cause none of the
co-workers are named 'Joyce'!!

Thank you, Graham Kennedy!!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 31 May 2022 11:40 UTC

Petzl wrote on 31/5/22 9:36 am:
> On Mon, 30 May 2022 22:00:38 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 29/5/22 12:12 pm:
>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 11:43:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>> The only cotes that should be counted are the ones marked,
>>>>>>> then killed
>>>>
>>>>>> What ?
>>>>
>>>>> After your votes are counted, failed candidates should not be
>>>>> allowed to select (feed) which candidates those votes are then
>>>>> passed to.
>>
>> YOU, the Voter, are given the greatest chance of having your vote count
>> for something.
>>
>>>> They don't if you vote below the line.
>>>>
>>>>> This system ensures those who did not vote Coalition/Labor end up
>>>>> with those votes,
>>>>
>>>> Only if you vote above the line.
>>>>
>>> Only the Senate paper which cannot be laid out in ballot box. like a
>>> table cloth, yes you select 8 below the line most do the donkey 8 or
>>> 6 above the line. Still does not stop preferences being fed by you
>>> last candidate down till someone has 50%.
>>
>> The instruction which you should have been given for The Senate (AND
>> WHICH IS PRINTED ON THE BALLOT PAPER) is that you should number *AT
>> LEAST* one through six above the line or *AT LEAST* one through twelve
>> below the line!!
>>
>> If you only did one through eight below the line, your vote may have
>> been informal!!
>
> it's scam to keep a duopoly
> The senate paper needs to be laid out on the floor to see all
> candidates. most will just fill in the above line.
> On top of that when your vote below the "line" drops down to number 8
> that 8th candidates preferences kick in.

No, clown, NOT THE CASE because you should have been told, and it is
written on the Ballot Paper, that YOU should number *At least* one
through twelve below the line!!

Nothing stopping you numbering One through Fifty-One if you wanted!!

> All are just snout and trotters in trough

If you filled out your ballot papers correctly, maybe there would be
less with 'just snout and trotters in trough'!!

>> ... and then continue on to your next favourite party
>>
> 3 were complete arseholes

Maybe so .... but then there were probably enough names below the line
for you to have not given those 3 any of your preferences, Petzl!!
--
Daniel

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On Tue, 31 May 2022 21:40:14 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote on 31/5/22 9:36 am:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 22:00:38 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 29/5/22 12:12 pm:
>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 11:43:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>>>>>>>> The only cotes that should be counted are the ones marked,
>>>>>>>> then killed
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> After your votes are counted, failed candidates should not be
>>>>>> allowed to select (feed) which candidates those votes are then
>>>>>> passed to.
>>>
>>> YOU, the Voter, are given the greatest chance of having your vote count
>>> for something.
>>>
>>>>> They don't if you vote below the line.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This system ensures those who did not vote Coalition/Labor end up
>>>>>> with those votes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you vote above the line.
>>>>>
>>>> Only the Senate paper which cannot be laid out in ballot box. like a
>>>> table cloth, yes you select 8 below the line most do the donkey 8 or
>>>> 6 above the line. Still does not stop preferences being fed by you
>>>> last candidate down till someone has 50%.
>>>
>>> The instruction which you should have been given for The Senate (AND
>>> WHICH IS PRINTED ON THE BALLOT PAPER) is that you should number *AT
>>> LEAST* one through six above the line or *AT LEAST* one through twelve
>>> below the line!!
>>>
>>> If you only did one through eight below the line, your vote may have
>>> been informal!!
>>
>> it's scam to keep a duopoly
>> The senate paper needs to be laid out on the floor to see all
>> candidates. most will just fill in the above line.
>> On top of that when your vote below the "line" drops down to number 8
>> that 8th candidates preferences kick in.
>
>No, clown, NOT THE CASE because you should have been told, and it is
>written on the Ballot Paper, that YOU should number *At least* one
>through twelve below the line!!
>
>Nothing stopping you numbering One through Fifty-One if you wanted!!
>
more than 51 on NSW Senate more like 150 or more, still the 150th
preferances still will kick in on 150, or whoever gets past the 50%
threasehold before that first.

>> All are just snout and trotters in trough
>
>If you filled out your ballot papers correctly, maybe there would be
>less with 'just snout and trotters in trough'!!
>
>>> ... and then continue on to your next favourite party
>>>
>> 3 were complete arseholes
>
>Maybe so .... but then there were probably enough names below the line
>for you to have not given those 3 any of your preferences, Petzl!!
>
only six for Australian House of Representatives (HoR) Macarthur.
--
Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

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 by: Mattb - Tue, 31 May 2022 17:45 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>>Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>>called Christian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>>Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these countries
>>>>>wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>
>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>>they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>
>>>>Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>>heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>>our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>
>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>
>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>
>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>
>> Never seen that.
>>>>
>But most get sucked in by fakenews media

Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.

><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
>rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
>thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
>demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
>can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.
>
>In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new. Everything he
>taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
>ever born. Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
>and the Christians. islam.htm
>
>>>>>you might like this link?
>>>>>https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>>pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>
>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>
>>>Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>
>> No more of less than any politician.
>>
>Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.

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 by: Mattb - Tue, 31 May 2022 17:46 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 12:03:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>>> Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>>> called Christian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>>> Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these
>>>>>> countries
>>>>>> wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>>> they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>>> heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>>> our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>>
>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>
>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>
>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>
>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>
>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>> While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
>> rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
>> thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
>> demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
>> can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.
>
>> In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new.
>
>More of your mindless bullshit. He proclaimed that its fine
>to fuck goats but that you have to kill the goat after you have
>fucked it an only sell the meat in villages other than your own.

He was a also a pedophile. Maybe he was a tranny?
>
>> Everything he
>> taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
>> ever born.
>
>Just as true of that fool that got nailed up by the romans.
>
>> Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
>> and the Christians. islam.htm
>
>When there is a binary choice, one god or more
>than one, someone has to invent that idea, stupid.
>
>>>>>> you might like this link?
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>>> pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>>
>>>> Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>>
>>> No more of less than any politician.
>>>
>> Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.
>
>You are the devil incarnate, pure evil.

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 by: Mattb - Tue, 31 May 2022 17:51 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 11:52:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:26:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 06:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 19:47:47 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:45:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:02:19 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 05:58:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 04:49:16 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:50:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:26:21 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:57:52 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mattb wrote on 28/5/22 4:51 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god are pagans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!! As I was brought up, that was the whole 'raison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d'être'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope!! An Interface for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK here are some Pope quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with church dogma must be burned without pity."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope Innocent III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't bother with that anymore, and that isn't just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the mess it makes in the town square.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Popes are or are not this "Interface for God"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It hasnt been that black and white for a long time now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It never was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on many Pagan principles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it just pinched a few of the myths like Noah
>>>>>>>>> and some cermonial ocassions. Never any pagan
>>>>>>>>> principles apart from a few like marriage etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are so full of shit here it isn't funny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll see who that is true of...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even the outfits the Popes wore,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, popes wear clothes, just like pagans do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> even the Popes title,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> even the day they claimed Jesus was born.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is just pinching that pagan ceremonial date.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then there is communion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuck all pagans have anything like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Theh list goes on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and has been a group of killers for centuries,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just like most religions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And that of atheist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>>>>>>> kill because they are imposing their approach
>>>>>>> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are so much like theist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>>> To murder is to murder.
>>>
>>>> Atheist murdered because another did not agree with their belief.
>>>
>>> But not because they weren't atheists.
>>
>> So you claim.
>
>So history proves.


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On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 03:45:13 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>>> Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>>> called Christian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>>> Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these
>>>>>> countries
>>>>>> wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>>> they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>>> heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>>> our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>>
>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>
>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>
>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>
>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>
>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media

> Where do you get your news.

Murdoch's TerrorGraph.

> Please give a cite.

>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>> While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
>> rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
>> thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
>> demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
>> can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.
>>
>> In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new. Everything he
>> taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
>> ever born. Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
>> and the Christians. islam.htm
>>
>>>>>> you might like this link?
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>>> pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>>
>>>> Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>>
>>> No more of less than any politician.
>>>
>> Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 19:13 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 03:46:18 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2022 12:03:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:18:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:00:31 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 20:58:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 02:44:30 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on REMOVING many Pagan principles.
>>>>>>>>> Before Constantinople there was a big growth in what was loosely
>>>>>>>>> called Christian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who gave them the right to murder for what they called heresy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are stuck on a false theme, Moslems were operating as 5th
>>>>>>> Columnists within Christian countries. The Monarchy of these
>>>>>>> countries
>>>>>>> wanted Islam purged from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Catharism was one Christian target as were the Waldensians, then
>>>>>> they went after the Jews and people who converted to Christianity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Muslims by definition were not heretics. The Code of Justinian says
>>>>>> heresy is "everyone who is not devoted to the Catholic Church and to
>>>>>> our Orthodox holy Faith" a heretic.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>
>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>
>>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>
>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>
>>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>> While the devout Muslim believes with all of his heart that the
>>> rituals and doctrines of Islam are entirely heavenly in origin and
>>> thus cannot have any earthly sources, Middle East scholars have
>>> demonstrated beyond all doubt that every ritual and belief in Islam
>>> can be traced back to pre-Islamic Arabian culture.
>>
>>> In other words Muhammad did not preach anything new.
>>
>> More of your mindless bullshit. He proclaimed that its fine
>> to fuck goats but that you have to kill the goat after you have
>> fucked it an only sell the meat in villages other than your own.

> He was a also a pedophile.

Not clear if he actually fucked any children.

> Maybe he was a tranny?

Not possible, they didnt have hormones to take then.

>>> Everything he
>>> taught had been believed and practiced in Arabia long before he was
>>> ever born.
>>
>> Just as true of that fool that got nailed up by the romans.
>>
>>> Even the idea of "only one God" was borrowed from the Jews
>>> and the Christians. islam.htm
>>
>> When there is a binary choice, one god or more
>> than one, someone has to invent that idea, stupid.
>>
>>>>>>> you might like this link?
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2jryldyc
>>>>>>> pictures of Hitler with the Pope
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hitler was a Catholic.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like Joe Biden and you believe him?
>>>>
>>>> No more of less than any politician.
>>>>
>>> Joe Biden is the Devil incarnate pure evil.
>>
>> You are the devil incarnate, pure evil.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 19:20 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 03:51:22 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2022 11:52:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:26:57 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 06:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 19:47:47 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:45:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 09:02:19 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 05:58:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 04:49:16 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:50:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 14:26:21 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:57:52 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mattb wrote on 28/5/22 4:51 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empire,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusive??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god are pagans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!! As I was brought up, that was the whole 'raison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d'être'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope!! An Interface for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK here are some Pope quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with church dogma must be burned without pity."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pope Innocent III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't bother with that anymore, and that isn't just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the mess it makes in the town square.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Popes are or are not this "Interface for God"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It hasnt been that black and white for a long time now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It never was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the RCC was founded on many Pagan principles
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, it just pinched a few of the myths like Noah
>>>>>>>>>> and some cermonial ocassions. Never any pagan
>>>>>>>>>> principles apart from a few like marriage etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are so full of shit here it isn't funny.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'll see who that is true of...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even the outfits the Popes wore,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, popes wear clothes, just like pagans do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> even the Popes title,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> even the day they claimed Jesus was born.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is just pinching that pagan ceremonial date.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then there is communion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fuck all pagans have anything like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Theh list goes on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and has been a group of killers for centuries,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like most religions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that of atheist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>>>>>>>> kill because they are imposing their approach
>>>>>>>> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are so much like theist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> To murder is to murder.
>>>>
>>>>> Atheist murdered because another did not agree with their belief.
>>>>
>>>> But not because they weren't atheists.
>>>
>>> So you claim.
>>
>> So history proves.


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On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>
>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>
>>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>
>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>
>>But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>
> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>
>><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>
All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
https://www.newsmax.com
https://www.oann.com
https://www.foxnews.com
https://nypost.com
https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke crap.
Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au

I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
--
Petzl
LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM
Donald Trump has shown the entire nation irrefutably,
explicitly & beyond any shadow of a doubt
that U.S. government & their media propagandists are
corrupt to the core

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 31 May 2022 20:47 UTC

On 31/05/2022 12:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:39:14 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 29/05/2022 7:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 06:56:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/05/2022 10:14 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 19:51:00 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/05/2022 7:32 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If he had a marginal seat in outer suburbs, then there is always
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pork barrel: promise them a train station, swimming pool or rugby
>>>>>>>> field. But what about Wentworth or Curtin? The wealthiest voters
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> harder to bribe. In Curtin, Scomo offered an expensive machine
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> public hospital within that electorate. Nothing else that I can
>>>>>>>> find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He could have bribed most of the stupid teal electorates with
>>>>>>> some stupid climate change bullshit,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Ummm, climate change is not bullshit. It's science. Something
>>>>>> Scummo
>>>>>> has no familiarity with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   but ScoMo isnt that stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Well, Scummo is dumb as a pile of rocks. Remember his words:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Well, I believe in miracles."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Says it all. Scummo ignores science and embraces supernatural
>>>>>> claptrap.
>>>>>>
>>>>> June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
>>>>> official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
>>>>> by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
>>>>> the year 2000."
>>>>> Only idiots still believe
>
>>>> And what is wrong with that statement?
>
>>>  There is no possibility what so ever that 'entire nations
>>> could be wiped off the face of the Earth' except with a
>>> few tiny islands whose inhabitants are free to move
>>> from that tiny island. It makes no sense what so ever
>>> to be spending trillions to avoid that happening.
>
>> Points:
>
> Nope, just more of your mindless bullshit.
>
>> * Those tiny islands ARE entire nations.
>> * As the warming continues, then other places will suffer. Places like:
>
>> The Netherlands
>> NYC
>> Much of Florida
>> Bangladesh
>> Etc.
>
> But won't be 'wiped off the face of the Earth', you pathetic excuse for
> a lying bullshit artist.

**Uninhabitable is exactly the same thing.

>
>> Spending the money now, makes more sense than spending MUCH more later.
>
> You haven't extablished that MUCH more will be spent later, fuckwit.

**
https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/press-releases/deloitte-report-inaction-on-climate-change-could-cost-the-us-economy-trillions-by-2070.html

There you go moron.

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 31 May 2022 21:03 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 06:47:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
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>>
>>> * Those tiny islands ARE entire nations.
>>> * As the warming continues, then other places will suffer. Places like:
>>
>>> The Netherlands
>>> NYC
>>> Much of Florida
>>> Bangladesh
>>> Etc.
>>
>> But won't be 'wiped off the face of the Earth', you pathetic excuse for
>> a lying bullshit artist.
>
>**Uninhabitable is exactly the same thing.
>
>>
>>> Spending the money now, makes more sense than spending MUCH more later.
>>
>> You haven't extablished that MUCH more will be spent later, fuckwit.
>
>**
>https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/press-releases/deloitte-report-inaction-on-climate-change-could-cost-the-us-economy-trillions-by-2070.html
>
>There you go moron.
>
I am trying to follow The Science
but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
--
Petzl
June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
the year 2000."
Only idiots still believe

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 31 May 2022 21:23 UTC

On 1/06/2022 7:03 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 06:47:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> * Those tiny islands ARE entire nations.
>>>> * As the warming continues, then other places will suffer. Places like:
>>>
>>>> The Netherlands
>>>> NYC
>>>> Much of Florida
>>>> Bangladesh
>>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> But won't be 'wiped off the face of the Earth', you pathetic excuse for
>>> a lying bullshit artist.
>>
>> **Uninhabitable is exactly the same thing.
>>
>>>
>>>> Spending the money now, makes more sense than spending MUCH more later.
>>>
>>> You haven't extablished that MUCH more will be spent later, fuckwit.
>>
>> **
>> https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/press-releases/deloitte-report-inaction-on-climate-change-could-cost-the-us-economy-trillions-by-2070.html
>>
>> There you go moron.
>>
> I am trying to follow The Science
> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!

**You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
to follow the money? Start here dickhead:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/

Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?

Really?

If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:

www.ipcc.ch

Study the fucking science you moron.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 May 2022 21:55 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:47:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 31/05/2022 12:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:39:14 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/05/2022 7:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 06:56:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/05/2022 10:14 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 19:51:00 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28/05/2022 7:32 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If he had a marginal seat in outer suburbs, then there is always
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> pork barrel: promise them a train station, swimming pool or rugby
>>>>>>>>> field. But what about Wentworth or Curtin? The wealthiest voters
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> harder to bribe. In Curtin, Scomo offered an expensive machine
>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> public hospital within that electorate. Nothing else that I can
>>>>>>>>> find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He could have bribed most of the stupid teal electorates with
>>>>>>>> some stupid climate change bullshit,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Ummm, climate change is not bullshit. It's science. Something
>>>>>>> Scummo
>>>>>>> has no familiarity with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but ScoMo isnt that stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Well, Scummo is dumb as a pile of rocks. Remember his words:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Well, I believe in miracles."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Says it all. Scummo ignores science and embraces supernatural
>>>>>>> claptrap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
>>>>>> official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the
>>>>>> Earth
>>>>>> by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
>>>>>> the year 2000."
>>>>>> Only idiots still believe
>>
>>>>> And what is wrong with that statement?
>>
>>>> There is no possibility what so ever that 'entire nations
>>>> could be wiped off the face of the Earth' except with a
>>>> few tiny islands whose inhabitants are free to move
>>>> from that tiny island. It makes no sense what so ever
>>>> to be spending trillions to avoid that happening.
>>
>>> Points:
>> Nope, just more of your mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> * Those tiny islands ARE entire nations.
>>> * As the warming continues, then other places will suffer. Places like:
>>
>>> The Netherlands
>>> NYC
>>> Much of Florida
>>> Bangladesh
>>> Etc.

>> But won't be 'wiped off the face of the Earth',you pathetic excuse
>> for a lying bullshit artist.

> Uninhabitable is exactly the same thing.

None of those you listed will be uninhabitable,
you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.

>>> Spending the money now, makes more sense than spending MUCH more later.

>> You haven't extablished that MUCH more will be spent later, fuckwit.

> https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/press-releases/deloitte-report-inaction-on-climate-change-could-cost-the-us-economy-trillions-by-2070.html

Just because some fool claims something...

Plenty of places like Britain and Siberia would in fact be better off.

> There you go moron.

You are wrong, as always.

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 31 May 2022 22:05 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>> I am trying to follow The Science
>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>
>**You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>
>https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>
>Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>
>Really?
>
>If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>
>www.ipcc.ch
>
It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 31 May 2022 22:27 UTC

On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>
>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>
>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>
>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>
>> www.ipcc.ch
>>
> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc

**Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 31 May 2022 22:35 UTC

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>
>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>
>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>
>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>
>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>
>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>
>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>
>**Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>
Like
Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
change which may change the colour of the sky.

But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
collapse.”

Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 31 May 2022 23:37 UTC

On 1/06/2022 8:35 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:27:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 1/06/2022 8:05 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 07:23:13 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I am trying to follow The Science
>>>>> but it keeps leading me back to The Money!
>>>>
>>>> **You are a dumb, lying shit-for-brains. You have zero idea of the
>>>> science. You have NEVER tried to follow the science. Not once. You want
>>>> to follow the money? Start here dickhead:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-the-money-behind-the-climate-denial-movement-180948204/
>>>>
>>>> Do you really want to follow the science surrounding climate change?
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> If you do (and I bet you have zero interest in doing so), then start here:
>>>>
>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>
>>> It's all a hoax the video explains why it a hoax
>>> https://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
>>
>> **Not interested in your moronic videos. Send me a link to you
>> peer-reviewed scientific papers and I will read them.
>>
> Like
> Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate
> change which may change the colour of the sky.
>
> But he says it may be necessary, as the “last barrier to climate
> collapse.”
>
> Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that
> mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.

**Pay very close attention to the following words:

You are a fucking moron.

Want me to repeat it?

You are a fucking moron.

Flannery is a paleontologist. Flannery is NOT a climate scientist.

I have ZERO interest in what a paleontologist claims about climate
science. If I want to know about Paleontology, then I will read
Flannery's peer-reviewed papers. Flannery has never published any
peer-reviewed papers concerning climate science.

Present your peer-reviewed evidence to prove your insane claims, or shut
the fuck up.

Clear?

To recap:

* You are a moron.
* Citing a person who is not a climate science in a matter concerning
climate science is stupid and a waste of time.
* You need to present peer-reviewed science to justify your claims.
* You are a moron.
* There is no God.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Tue, 31 May 2022 23:40 UTC

On Monday, 30 May 2022 at 18:16:55 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2022 00:55:01 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Just like most religions.
> >> >
> >> > And that of atheist.
> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
> >
> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no commandments
> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to kill;
> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do not
> >kill
> >
> Well said

Thanks.
As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh, their actions lie in their programming and control.
There could be good atheists, like there could be good robots.
Like Arnie as the reformed terminator.
On the other hand-
Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism, atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.
Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.

> --
> Petzl
> Jesus “taught with authority” (Matthew 7:29), and the risen Lord gave
> his Apostles a share in his authority when he commissioned them to
> make disciples from all the nations by teaching what he had commanded
> them (Matthew 28:18–20).
>
> Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
> and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
> "The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
> Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
> the religion of Christ."

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Jun 2022 02:27 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> petzl wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >> Just like most religions.
>> >> >
>> >> > And that of atheist.
>> >> Nope, few atheists kill anyone.
>> >> > Look at the USSR, China and North Korea.
>> >> Those don't kill because they are atheists, they
>> >> kill because they are imposing their approach
>> >> to how things are done like collectives etc.
>> >
>> >They kill because they are atheists, thus with no absolute moral
>> >checks, no concern for any position in the afterlife, no commandments
>> >to follow, no good guidance, in addition to being cold-heated and
>> >unscrupulous brainwashed robotic types who got the chance to kill;
>> >or hapless people who kill because they will be killed if they do not
>> >kill
>> >
>> Well said
>
> Thanks.

> As atheists are essentially robots garbed in flesh,their actions lie in
> their programming and control.

Its you theists who have been programed by your religion, fool.

> Under the influence of evil ideologies such as Marxism or Randism,
> atheists/robots can go off on mindless killing sprees.

Just like you theists do...

> Such as seen in Russia, China, Cambodia, etc under the influence of
> egalitarian anti-property Marxism, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya
> etc. under the influence of selfish- greedy Randism.

And with the partition of India, and the religious wars in europe.

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