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From: Andrew97...@mybtinternet.com (Andrew)
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Subject: Re: Wholesale energy price rise
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 by: Andrew - Mon, 30 May 2022 09:56 UTC

On 30/05/2022 09:22, alan_m wrote:
> On 30/05/2022 07:58, Chris Hogg wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 11:54:23 +0100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <t6vbo5$1pdl$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>    Brian Gaff <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> It was unfortunately inept management of the nationalised industries
>>>> that
>>>> let them run down
>>>
>>> The lack of investment was due to the Government (the owner). Any
>>> 'profit'
>>> the industry made was swallowed up by the Treasury.
>>
>> Which meant that there was little incentive to make a profit in the
>> first place.
>>
>
>  Or provide any customer service.
>

Well there were electricity and gas board showrooms on every high
street where you could pay your bills and buy new stuff, and make
a complaint if you had too (which was pointless).

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 by: charles - Mon, 30 May 2022 10:09 UTC

In article <t7244q$2jo$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andrew
<Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
> On 30/05/2022 09:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > On 30/05/2022 07:58, Chris Hogg wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 May 2022 11:54:23 +0100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <t6vbo5$1pdl$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Brian Gaff
> >>> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> It was unfortunately inept management of the nationalised industries
> >>>> that let them run down
> >>>
> >>> The lack of investment was due to the Government (the owner). Any
> >>> 'profit' the industry made was swallowed up by the Treasury.
> >>
> >> Which meant that there was little incentive to make a profit in the
> >> first place.
> >>
> > From an engineering perspective the GPO and the CEGB were pretty
> > damned good.
> >
> > The kit did the job the customers wanted. Reliable phones and
> > electricity.

> Very expensive phones and a long wait to get a line installed (which is
> why party lines were so common) - if at all ("We have no pairs").

lack of capital investment - HM Treasury interfeence.

> Even when it became BT they had their own rules. BS5839 wasn't good
> enough for the GPO/BT, they had their own standard on top of that for
> manned exchange buildings.

how sensible

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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 by: williamwright - Tue, 31 May 2022 00:55 UTC

On 07/05/2022 08:25, Andrew wrote:
>
> And the road chaos around most schools when they all turn up
> with a single child passenger onboard.

Someone I know has to do the school run in a 3.5 ton van. Not because he
wants to; it's because he has to have the van for other reasons so it
isn't worth having a smaller vehicle.

Bill

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 by: williamwright - Tue, 31 May 2022 00:59 UTC

On 07/05/2022 09:43, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> If he likes a big vehicle why shouldn't he have one? It's his business.
>
> Flaunting implied status to the detriment of other road users?

You don't know that.

Bill

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 by: Tim Lamb - Tue, 31 May 2022 08:41 UTC

In message <jfl7ioF65cjU2@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> writes
>On 07/05/2022 09:43, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> If he likes a big vehicle why shouldn't he have one? It's his business.
>> Flaunting implied status to the detriment of other road users?
>
>You don't know that.
Hence the question mark:-)

I was floating an idea largely directed at vehicle marketing where
embellishment beyond need becomes a saleable desirable. Remember the
space race years fins?

Are you bored and catching up on old posts?

--
Tim Lamb

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