On 19/05/2022 11:36, Turnip Fucker wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:19:19 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 19/05/2022 10:42, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 17:55:08 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/05/2022 23:00, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 02:25:42 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 13:27, NY wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm amazed that 2-stroke petrol engines are still legal to use,
>>>>>>> in these days of wanting to reduce pollution. Or are burnt-oil
>>>>>>> fumes regarded as less of a problem than conventional
>>>>>>> fuel-exhaust fumes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once you realise that emissions legislations are and always were a
>>>>>> way to increase car sales and induce obsole scence, and had
>>>>>> nothing whatever to do with dangerous climate change, the reason
>>>>>> why a tiny market of mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines has been
>>>>>> left alone,
>>>>>  It hasn't in many jurisdictions.
>>>
>>>> Assertion with no evidence to back it up
>
>>>  Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>> able to google  <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>
>> Quite, so provide the evidence.
>
> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
> able to google  <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.

Yep, first hit:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/auto/explained-are-two-stroke-bikes-being-banned-3405991.html

And from that article, "there is no ban on two-stroke motorcycles".

>>>>>> is obvious.
>
>>>>>> No money in it and no obvious alternative.,
>
>>>  Pathetic.

Quite.

On Fri, 20 May 2022 00:21:29 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

> On 19/05/2022 11:36, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:19:19 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/05/2022 10:42, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 17:55:08 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/05/2022 23:00, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 02:25:42 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 13:27, NY wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm amazed that 2-stroke petrol engines are still legal to use,
>>>>>>>> in these days of wanting to reduce pollution. Or are burnt-oil
>>>>>>>> fumes regarded as less of a problem than conventional
>>>>>>>> fuel-exhaust fumes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once you realise that emissions legislations are and always were a
>>>>>>> way to increase car sales and induce obsole scence, and had
>>>>>>> nothing whatever to do with dangerous climate change, the reason
>>>>>>> why a tiny market of mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines has been
>>>>>>> left alone,
>>>>>> It hasn't in many jurisdictions.
>>>>
>>>>> Assertion with no evidence to back it up
>>
>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>>> able to google <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>>
>>> Quite, so provide the evidence.
>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>> able to google <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>
> Yep, first hit:
>
> https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/auto/explained-are-two-stroke-bikes-being-banned-3405991.html
>
> And from that article, "there is no ban on two-stroke motorcycles".

That isn't "mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines", fuckwit.

>>>>>>> is obvious.
>>
>>>>>>> No money in it and no obvious alternative.,
>>
>>>> Pathetic.

On 19/05/2022 19:58, Turnip Fucker wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 00:21:29 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 19/05/2022 11:36, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:19:19 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/05/2022 10:42, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 17:55:08 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 23:00, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 02:25:42 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 13:27, NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm amazed that 2-stroke petrol engines are still legal to use,
>>>>>>>>> in these days of wanting to reduce pollution. Or are burnt-oil
>>>>>>>>> fumes regarded as less of a problem than conventional
>>>>>>>>> fuel-exhaust fumes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once you realise that emissions legislations are and always were
>>>>>>>> a way to increase car sales and induce obsole scence, and had
>>>>>>>> nothing whatever to do with dangerous climate change, the reason
>>>>>>>> why a tiny market of mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines has
>>>>>>>> been left alone,
>>>>>>>  It hasn't in many jurisdictions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Assertion with no evidence to back it up
>>>
>>>>>  Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>>>> able to google  <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Quite, so provide the evidence.
>>>  Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>> able to google  <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>>
>> Yep, first hit:
>>  https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/auto/explained-are-two-stroke-bikes-being-banned-3405991.html
>>
>>
>> And from that article, "there is no ban on two-stroke motorcycles".
>
> That isn't "mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines", fuckwit.

But is evidence you can't back up your claim.

>>>>>>>> is obvious.
>>>
>>>>>>>> No money in it and no obvious alternative.,
>>>
>>>>>  Pathetic.

On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:22:09 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

> On 19/05/2022 19:58, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 00:21:29 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/05/2022 11:36, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:19:19 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/05/2022 10:42, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 17:55:08 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 23:00, Turnip Fucker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 02:25:42 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2022 13:27, NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm amazed that 2-stroke petrol engines are still legal to use,
>>>>>>>>>> in these days of wanting to reduce pollution. Or are burnt-oil
>>>>>>>>>> fumes regarded as less of a problem than conventional
>>>>>>>>>> fuel-exhaust fumes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once you realise that emissions legislations are and always were
>>>>>>>>> a way to increase car sales and induce obsole scence, and had
>>>>>>>>> nothing whatever to do with dangerous climate change, the reason
>>>>>>>>> why a tiny market of mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines has
>>>>>>>>> been left alone,
>>>>>>>> It hasn't in many jurisdictions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assertion with no evidence to back it up
>>>>
>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>>>>> able to google <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> Quite, so provide the evidence.
>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>>> able to google <new 2 stroke engines banned> fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Yep, first hit:
>>> https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/auto/explained-are-two-stroke-bikes-being-banned-3405991.html
>>> And from that article, "there is no ban on two-stroke motorcycles".

>> That isn't "mainly agricultural 2 stroke engines", fuckwit.

> But is evidence you can't back up your claim.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>>>>>>> is obvious.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No money in it and no obvious alternative.,
>>>>
>>>>>> Pathetic.

Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:

> On 16/05/2022 22:11, Tim+ wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > On 16 May 2022 at 19:35:14 BST, Andrew
> > > <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> > > > On 16/05/2022 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> > > > > mm0fmf wrote:
> >>>>
> > > > > > My car in eco mode (8 speed auto) drops in to neutral when you
> > > > > > lift off over 30mph.
> >>>>
> > > > > Mine does that, and when going downhill, will also stop the
> > > > > engine.
> >>>
> > > > 2-stroke Saab 9x's did that decades ago because they had some sort
> > > > of freewheel to prevent the engine from seizing, but also meant no
> > > > engine braking.
> >>
> > > You talking about the Saab 99?
> >>
> >
> > Saab 93 and early 96.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> And I think that even when the 2-stroke was replaced by a Vee 4 from Ford,
> they kept the freewheel device.

The Rover60 amongst others also had a freewheel.

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