In article <iU_5K.800637$xr1.591083@fx02.ams1>, Sam Plusnet
<not@home.com> on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 20:48:30 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 14-Apr-22 18:25, The Nomad wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:49:09 +0100, "Nicholas D. Richards"
>
>>> Sheffield University Arts Tower (I think) had lifts with no doors that
>>> moved up, over the top and down again.
>
>I believe it's still operating.
>I only rode on it once, in 1969 or 70.
>
1966 or 67 to read History. They offered me a place but my first choice
offered me an unconditional place, so I went to Keele.

>P.S. I tried to "Followup" Mr Richard's post, but Thunderbird refused to
>allow me to do that by 'greying out' the "Send" button. I have no clue
>why this should be.
>
Sorry I cannot help you there, I use Turnpike v5.02
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On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>
>>   We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>> having
>> issues with that.
>
> When I, and a few fellow reprobates, were hanging around a place of
> education in Liverpool, we found a large slab of dry ice had been
> delivered to the college & somehow left on a footpath near a goods
> entrance.
> It was late in the day and everyone seemed to have locked up and gone home.
> We noticed it, & hated the idea of it all just vanishing into nothing to
> no good porpoise.  We waited for a while...
> And then we re-homed it and tried out all the things you would like to
> do, if you ever managed to lay hands on a couple of kg of the stuff.

I should like to be able to keep a lot of dry ice pellets to drop into
fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
cap...)

Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.

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RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>>   We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>>> having
>>> issues with that.
>>
>> When I, and a few fellow reprobates, were hanging around a place of
>> education in Liverpool, we found a large slab of dry ice had been
>> delivered to the college & somehow left on a footpath near a goods
>> entrance.
>> It was late in the day and everyone seemed to have locked up and gone home.
>> We noticed it, & hated the idea of it all just vanishing into nothing to
>> no good porpoise.  We waited for a while...
>> And then we re-homed it and tried out all the things you would like to
>> do, if you ever managed to lay hands on a couple of kg of the stuff.
>
> I should like to be able to keep a lot of dry ice pellets to drop into
> fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
> cap...)
>
> Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.
>

Paradoxically, dropping dry ice into a fizzy drink flattens it totally.

Tim

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On 14/04/2022 22:44, Tim+ wrote:
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>
>>>>   We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>>>> having
>>>> issues with that.
>>>
>>> When I, and a few fellow reprobates, were hanging around a place of
>>> education in Liverpool, we found a large slab of dry ice had been
>>> delivered to the college & somehow left on a footpath near a goods
>>> entrance.
>>> It was late in the day and everyone seemed to have locked up and gone home.
>>> We noticed it, & hated the idea of it all just vanishing into nothing to
>>> no good porpoise.  We waited for a while...
>>> And then we re-homed it and tried out all the things you would like to
>>> do, if you ever managed to lay hands on a couple of kg of the stuff.
>>
>> I should like to be able to keep a lot of dry ice pellets to drop into
>> fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
>> cap...)
>>
>> Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.
>>
>
> Paradoxically, dropping dry ice into a fizzy drink flattens it totally.

Until the carbon dioxide released has time to go into solution, I would
warrant.

It certainly jbexrq fine when I *did* have access to dry-ice, and I
dropped small pieces into still drinks molished with Sodastream syrups.

(I once jbexrq in a nice scream factory.)
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RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 22:44, Tim+ wrote:
>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>>>>> having
>>>>> issues with that.
>>>>
>>>> When I, and a few fellow reprobates, were hanging around a place of
>>>> education in Liverpool, we found a large slab of dry ice had been
>>>> delivered to the college & somehow left on a footpath near a goods
>>>> entrance.
>>>> It was late in the day and everyone seemed to have locked up and gone home.
>>>> We noticed it, & hated the idea of it all just vanishing into nothing to
>>>> no good porpoise.  We waited for a while...
>>>> And then we re-homed it and tried out all the things you would like to
>>>> do, if you ever managed to lay hands on a couple of kg of the stuff.
>>>
>>> I should like to be able to keep a lot of dry ice pellets to drop into
>>> fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
>>> cap...)
>>>
>>> Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.
>>>
>>
>> Paradoxically, dropping dry ice into a fizzy drink flattens it totally.
>
> Until the carbon dioxide released has time to go into solution, I would
> warrant.

Well I only tried small lumps in lager in an open glass. The bubbling dry
ice just seemed to act as a nucleus to release all the dissolved CO2. The
beer has absolutely no sparkle once the dry ice had evaporated.

Tim

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On 15 Apr 2022 05:44:57 GMT
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I only tried small lumps in lager in an open glass. The bubbling dry
> ice just seemed to act as a nucleus to release all the dissolved CO2. The
> beer has absolutely no sparkle once the dry ice had evaporated.

That molishes sense it takes pressure to force CO2 into solution
and the intense cold almost certainly reduces the solubility even further
causing all the CO2 to leave in one fizz. If OTOH you dump a pellet into a
sealed container (or seal it quickly) then the pressure rise will force the
CO2 into solution unless of course the pellet is too big and the container
bursts.

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:11:51 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

>It certainly jbexrq fine when I *did* have access to dry-ice, and I
>dropped small pieces into still drinks molished with Sodastream syrups.

Dropping dry ice into hot coffee makes an impressive billowing cloud of fog. The
coffee is then cold, and enough carbonic acid forms to make it taste terrible.

Thomas Prufer (who once had access to a box of dry ice pellets).

Ah, I think the next property to mine here in the UK had its extension built
like that.
Its three home owners later now, and they are still finding weird things.
The latest being a cable that emerges from the outside wall, apparently
live, and in some aluminium tubing, or rather it was, now its only partly in
it and disappears underground under the decking. Sadly part of it chaffed
almost to the wires is just behind a wall I have where a tree needs to be
removed, and of course nobody wants to go near it.
My guess is that somewhere its joined to the downstairs ring, but as the
floor in the extension is concrete, its going to be hard to track down.
Brian

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"Nick Odell" <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:35:23 -0000 (UTC), Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:t38mrv$h3$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Yes well, in my view some of the most dangerous people seem to work in
>>> Spanish territories when it comes to electricity wiring.
>>
>>When we first moved into our spanish home the electrickery for 3 houses
>>came through a kettle lead pugged into a socket tied to a pole (not Pole).
>>It kept failing and we got the builder's lad to try to sort it out. After
>>a
>>few minutes there was an almighty bnag and I found the lad sprawled on the
>>ground, his hair all on end (he had quite a lot). Picked him up, gave him
>>a
>>cuppa and offered to drive him to the Urgencia (A&E) - he wasn't having
>>that, though and went back to jbex. A few years later we got a proper
>>supply which stayed on most of the time.
>>
>>> Don't get me started on the dangerous lifts in apartment blocks in
>>> the
>>> Canary Isles that fail to lock between floors and are manual only.
>>
> It rather sounds to me as if all the bad Canary Islands electricians
> emigrated to Argentina leaving the better ones behind for you to hire.
>
> I'm not there at the moment but EQDSO has been having a Gasman Cometh
> fortnight. If I tell you that the real gasman comethed in the middle
> of this debacle to put right what the fake gasman had put wrong and
> that the phone and the lights are once more working again you will get
> the general idea. If I then tell you that the working brief was only
> to remove a non-structural internal wall and make two rooms into one
> you may be wondering how things ever got into that state. So is she...
>
>
> Nick

You still find lifts of two designs that have problems for disabled people.
The first type have the buttons so high that if in a wheelchair, you cannot
rich them. The second have the whole control as a touch screen so blind
people cannot use them. Neither would seem to be rocket science at the
design stage, the first, lower it, the second put an overlay over the panel
which can be felt. Its just lazy design.
Brian

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"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in message
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> In article <XnsAE796BB9E38EFFactura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 09:35:23 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
>>"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:t38mrv$h3$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Yes well, in my view some of the most dangerous people seem to work in
>>> Spanish territories when it comes to electricity wiring.
>>
>>When we first moved into our spanish home the electrickery for 3 houses
>>came through a kettle lead pugged into a socket tied to a pole (not Pole).
>>It kept failing and we got the builder's lad to try to sort it out. After
>>a
>>few minutes there was an almighty bnag and I found the lad sprawled on the
>>ground, his hair all on end (he had quite a lot). Picked him up, gave him
>>a
>>cuppa and offered to drive him to the Urgencia (A&E) - he wasn't having
>>that, though and went back to jbex. A few years later we got a proper
>>supply which stayed on most of the time.
>>
>>> Don't get me started on the dangerous lifts in apartment blocks in
>>> the
>>> Canary Isles that fail to lock between floors and are manual only.
>>
>>OK
>>
> I will leave te Canary Islands Lifts out of it.
>
> Sheffield University Arts Tower (I think) had lifts with no doors that
> moved up, over the top and down again.
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I still use Outcrop distress, but I'm told, finally in Windoze 11 there is
no hack to make it work since the IE code embedded was removed.
bah humbug.
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"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in message
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> In article <iU_5K.800637$xr1.591083@fx02.ams1>, Sam Plusnet
> <not@home.com> on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 20:48:30 awoke Nicholas from his
> slumbers and wrote
>>On 14-Apr-22 18:25, The Nomad wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:49:09 +0100, "Nicholas D. Richards"
>>
>>>> Sheffield University Arts Tower (I think) had lifts with no doors that
>>>> moved up, over the top and down again.
>>
>>I believe it's still operating.
>>I only rode on it once, in 1969 or 70.
>>
> 1966 or 67 to read History. They offered me a place but my first choice
> offered me an unconditional place, so I went to Keele.
>
>>P.S. I tried to "Followup" Mr Richard's post, but Thunderbird refused to
>>allow me to do that by 'greying out' the "Send" button. I have no clue
>>why this should be.
>>
> Sorry I cannot help you there, I use Turnpike v5.02
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>
> "O� sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 2022-04-14, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>>   We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>>> having
>>> issues with that.
>>
> fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
> cap...)
>
> Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.
>

Get 1 strong small bottle with cork , remove contents (drink?), water
and an Alka-seltzer pill, shake while holding cork in, and when the cork
is let go, enough power to propel in about fifty yards.

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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
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> On 15 Apr 2022 05:44:57 GMT
> Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well I only tried small lumps in lager in an open glass. The
>> bubbling dry ice just seemed to act as a nucleus to release all the
>> dissolved CO2. The beer has absolutely no sparkle once the dry ice
>> had evaporated.
>
> That molishes sense it takes pressure to force CO2 into solution
> and the intense cold almost certainly reduces the solubility even
> further causing all the CO2 to leave in one fizz. If OTOH you dump a
> pellet into a sealed container (or seal it quickly) then the pressure
> rise will force the CO2 into solution unless of course the pellet is
> too big and the container bursts.
>

Forcing dry ice into a rubber pipette bulb and clamping the end results in
a rather splendid bnag. Left underneath a pre-occupied colleague's chair
late at night resulted in an ashen-faced colleague staggering around asking
"wot happened?"

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-----

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 09:37:58 +0100
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Its three home owners later now, and they are still finding weird
> things. The latest being a cable that emerges from the outside wall,
> apparently live, and in some aluminium tubing, or rather it was, now its
> only partly in it and disappears underground under the decking. Sadly
> part of it chaffed almost to the wires is just behind a wall I have where
> a tree needs to be removed, and of course nobody wants to go near it.

Many moons ago I lived in a very big shared house (two large town
houses knocked into one) with a *long* and university owned history. One day
we noticed that a patch of wall was warm, investigation eventually revealed
an old metal tube and round metal connection box buried under the plaster
which not only contained a live cable but was also full of water! We traced
the cable and disconnected it, the pipe full of water was still there when
the place was demolished a couple of years later.

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On 15/04/2022 09:44, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> I still use Outcrop distress, but I'm told, finally in Windoze 11 there is
> no hack to make it work since the IE code embedded was removed.
> bah humbug.

This is one of the ways Mickeysnot makes its zbarl: write te arj pogrom
non backwardscompatible. 'One the reasons I abandoned Wadnose.

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In article <20220415083305.f6e26b8ff1c67d66f04c8b4e@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 08:33:05 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:45:56 +0200
>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Dropping dry ice into hot coffee makes an impressive billowing cloud of
>> fog. The coffee is then cold, and enough carbonic acid forms to make it
>> taste terrible.
>
> What a terrible thing to do to coffee! Liquid nitrogen can be used
>for tasteless rapid cooling[1] - just be absolutely certain it has all
>evaporated before drinking, it does terrible things to human innards.
>
>[1] There was a fad for it in trendy bars a few years back, and some nasty
>accidents.
>
Https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-
lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen

I suspect that a similar effect could be achieved with solid CO2.

Long ago, before Proton Pump Inhibitor treatment for stomach and
oesophageal conditions, I had a work colleague who had intractable
stomach ulcers. A treatment that was discussed with him involved insert
a stomach shaped bag into his stomach, via his mouth. The bag would be
filled with a super cooled liquid for a period of time to kill the cells
that produced acid. I do not remember if it was tried and how successful
it was.

Possibly not very and it probably is quite dangerous. Parietal cells
(the cells that make stomach acid and the intrinsic factor) are killed
by a Proton Pump Inhibitor, however within 24 or so hours they are
regenerated, as I know from my own experience.
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On 15/04/2022 11:56, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <20220415083305.f6e26b8ff1c67d66f04c8b4e@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 08:33:05 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>
>> What a terrible thing to do to coffee! Liquid nitrogen can be used
>> for tasteless rapid cooling[1] - just be absolutely certain it has all
>> evaporated before drinking, it does terrible things to human innards.
>>
>> [1] There was a fad for it in trendy bars a few years back, and some nasty
>> accidents.
>>
> Https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-
> lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen
>
> I suspect that a similar effect could be achieved with solid CO2.

Last August, I went to see a dermatologist about a couple of things. One
was a flaky lesion on my hand that was constantly itchy and had been
like that for a couple of months. He applied liquid nitrogen to it.
Eight months later, instead of being a flaky lesion 1cm across, it's a
pink plaque 3cm across which still hasn't properly healed and is
frequently agonisingly itchy. Due to have a biopsy of it at some
indeterminate point in the future.

"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
news:6MYBLKAd9UWiFAVm@salmiron.com:

> Possibly not very and it probably is quite dangerous. Parietal cells
> (the cells that make stomach acid and the intrinsic factor) are killed
> by a Proton Pump Inhibitor, however within 24 or so hours they are
> regenerated, as I know from my own experience.

I uster take omeprazol daily but these days I find that taking one just when
needed is fine - roughly one a month.

--
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-----

On 14/04/2022 21:23, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 20:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 14-Apr-22 9:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>> We also had a fridge for Liquid oxygen, but I never heard of anyone
>>> having
>>> issues with that.
>>
>> When I, and a few fellow reprobates, were hanging around a place of
>> education in Liverpool, we found a large slab of dry ice had been
>> delivered to the college & somehow left on a footpath near a goods
>> entrance.
>> It was late in the day and everyone seemed to have locked up and gone
>> home.
>> We noticed it, & hated the idea of it all just vanishing into nothing
>> to no good porpoise. We waited for a while...
>> And then we re-homed it and tried out all the things you would like to
>> do, if you ever managed to lay hands on a couple of kg of the stuff.
>
> I should like to be able to keep a lot of dry ice pellets to drop into
> fizzy drinks that have lost their fizz (and immediately screw down the
> cap...)
>
> Beats a Sodastream chamine any day.
>

Friend of mine used to replace the "cleaning blocks" in the urinals with
dry ice.

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Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <20220415083305.f6e26b8ff1c67d66f04c8b4e@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 08:33:05 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:45:56 +0200
>>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Dropping dry ice into hot coffee makes an impressive billowing cloud of
>>> fog. The coffee is then cold, and enough carbonic acid forms to make it
>>> taste terrible.
>>
>> What a terrible thing to do to coffee! Liquid nitrogen can be used
>>for tasteless rapid cooling[1] - just be absolutely certain it has all
>>evaporated before drinking, it does terrible things to human innards.
>>
>>[1] There was a fad for it in trendy bars a few years back, and some nasty
>>accidents.
>>
> Https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-
> lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen

Conveniently situated next to the Funeral Parlour, opposite the cop
shop.

Currently trading as "Hogarth's Gin Palace"

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On 15/04/2022 09:37, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Its three home owners later now, and they are still finding weird things.
> The latest being a cable that emerges from the outside wall, apparently
> live

Unforgets me of the time I stayed in a farmhouse B+B with old wiring.
One of the suitcases (it was long ago) had metal edging. It was moved to
stand against the bedroom wall.

spitzensparken BNAG - all lights went out.

A socket had been removed, and live cable ends left projecting. Profuse
apologies from the owners, and a fuse (blown) pulled out at the fuse box.

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Nick Odell said:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:32:50 -0500, Richard Robinson
>>Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>>>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>>>
>>> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
>>> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.
>>
>>Ah. You might be right. I realise it's a long time since I noticed it.
>>
>>I wonder where it is
>
> You wouldn't, by any chance, have left it, together with other
> commemorative coins, at a bus stop in Huddersfield?

No, I left it at the back of the last drawer I looked for it in.

> (He asks, mysteriously.)

(He replies, belatedly. Go on, you know you want to ...)

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On 15/04/2022 11:56, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <20220415083305.f6e26b8ff1c67d66f04c8b4e@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 08:33:05 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:45:56 +0200
>> Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Dropping dry ice into hot coffee makes an impressive billowing cloud of
>>> fog. The coffee is then cold, and enough carbonic acid forms to make it
>>> taste terrible.
>>
>> What a terrible thing to do to coffee! Liquid nitrogen can be used
>> for tasteless rapid cooling[1] - just be absolutely certain it has all
>> evaporated before drinking, it does terrible things to human innards.
>>
>> [1] There was a fad for it in trendy bars a few years back, and some nasty
>> accidents.
>>
> Https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-
> lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen
>
> I suspect that a similar effect could be achieved with solid CO2.
>
> Long ago, before Proton Pump Inhibitor treatment for stomach and
> oesophageal conditions, I had a work colleague who had intractable
> stomach ulcers. A treatment that was discussed with him involved insert
> a stomach shaped bag into his stomach, via his mouth. The bag would be
> filled with a super cooled liquid for a period of time to kill the cells
> that produced acid. I do not remember if it was tried and how successful
> it was.
>
> Possibly not very and it probably is quite dangerous. Parietal cells
> (the cells that make stomach acid and the intrinsic factor) are killed
> by a Proton Pump Inhibitor, however within 24 or so hours they are
> regenerated, as I know from my own experience.

Such conditions are usually caused by the bacterium Helicobacter pylori
(or summat very similarlt spelt), and can now be cured with Auntie Biotix

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To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 15/04/2022 12:36, Peter wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:6MYBLKAd9UWiFAVm@salmiron.com:
>
>> Possibly not very and it probably is quite dangerous. Parietal cells
>> (the cells that make stomach acid and the intrinsic factor) are killed
>> by a Proton Pump Inhibitor, however within 24 or so hours they are
>> regenerated, as I know from my own experience.
>
> I uster take omeprazol daily but these days I find that taking one just when
> needed is fine - roughly one a month.

I take Lansoprazole daily

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In article <t3c19t$avg$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 16:00:12 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 15/04/2022 11:56, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <20220415083305.f6e26b8ff1c67d66f04c8b4e@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 08:33:05 awoke
>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:45:56 +0200
>>> Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dropping dry ice into hot coffee makes an impressive billowing cloud of
>>>> fog. The coffee is then cold, and enough carbonic acid forms to make it
>>>> taste terrible.
>>>
>>> What a terrible thing to do to coffee! Liquid nitrogen can be used
>>> for tasteless rapid cooling[1] - just be absolutely certain it has all
>>> evaporated before drinking, it does terrible things to human innards.
>>>
>>> [1] There was a fad for it in trendy bars a few years back, and some nasty
>>> accidents.
>>>
>> Https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/oscars-wine-bar-
>> lancaster-gaby-scanlon-stomach-liquid-nitrogen
>>
>> I suspect that a similar effect could be achieved with solid CO2.
>>
>> Long ago, before Proton Pump Inhibitor treatment for stomach and
>> oesophageal conditions, I had a work colleague who had intractable
>> stomach ulcers. A treatment that was discussed with him involved insert
>> a stomach shaped bag into his stomach, via his mouth. The bag would be
>> filled with a super cooled liquid for a period of time to kill the cells
>> that produced acid. I do not remember if it was tried and how successful
>> it was.
>>
>> Possibly not very and it probably is quite dangerous. Parietal cells
>> (the cells that make stomach acid and the intrinsic factor) are killed
>> by a Proton Pump Inhibitor, however within 24 or so hours they are
>> regenerated, as I know from my own experience.
>
>Such conditions are usually caused by the bacterium Helicobacter pylori
>(or summat very similarlt spelt), and can now be cured with Auntie Biotix
>
Correct, Helicobacter pylori infections are usually cured by a
PPI/multi-antibiotic regime.

On the other hand acid reflux, particularly if caused by a Hiatus Hernia
is controlled by a lifetime of PPI regime. It works providing the right
PPI is used for the individual. In my case 25 years severe discomfort
has now been controlled by 25 years of Raberprazole.

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On 2022-04-15, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 09:44, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>
>> I still use Outcrop distress, but I'm told, finally in Windoze 11 there is
>> no hack to make it work since the IE code embedded was removed.
>> bah humbug.
>
> This is one of the ways Mickeysnot makes its zbarl: write te arj pogrom
> non backwardscompatible. 'One the reasons I abandoned Wadnose.
>

As Far As I know, Outlook Express has not been recommended since about
Windows2000, rumour has it that it was written by Indian programmers,
who were sent back to India when their job was done. People who believed
in it insisted that it remain available.

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