On 05/11/2022 23:07, FromTheRafters wrote:
> It happens that David Brooks formulated :
>> On 25/10/2022 18:51, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 25/10/2022 18:37, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> David Brooks submitted this idea :
>>>>> On 25/10/2022 07:14, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>>>>> On 24/10/2022 16:21, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote :
>>>>>>>>> On 23/10/2022 20:55, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David Brooks formulated the question :
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/10/2022 18:31, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Brooks brought next idea :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/10/2022 10:15, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Brooks formulated the question :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/10/2022 23:30, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/10/2022 16:47, Bill W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2022, David Brooks wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article <ihT4L.1094190$vFVf.113626@fx02.ams1>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/10/2022 13:53, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<RzR4L.1722523$%q2.83271@fx15.ams1>, David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brooks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that to show the icon as it did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my iCloud Drive,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Savageduck must have shared it with me from HIS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iCloud Drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as usual, your understanding is wrong. more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurately, non-existent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Savageduck wasn't responsible, who was?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You’re just not paying attention. Nospam already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slipped up once and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed that Duck is a secret agent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, 'nospam' is a well know Usenet Troll who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /pretends/ to know facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if he knows that Savageduck, like me, likes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Labrador dogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, after much experimentation with the help of 'Snit',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've managed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   determine how to produce an icon like those found in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my iCloud Drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's screenshot to show you:- https://jmp.sh/Bkj3C10W
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A clear and concise explanation of how things work may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found here:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.lifewire.com/icloud-share-store-video-1081860
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My sincere thanks to poster 'Snit' who showed it to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, it does NOT explain ho the videos of Savageduck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found their way onto my computer. I had simply 'watched
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them' at the links posted by Savageduck, I did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they weren't downloaded, then you didn't see them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the benefit of ALL readers, you need to explain! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I watch again, by visiting one of Savageduck's links in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'rec.photo.digital', no record of it can then be found on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or, rather, *I* can find no record of it. Where do YOU look
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find it on YOUR MacBookPro?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I never saw any link to click since I don't do NNTP on my
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macbook. I'm thinking that if I did, it would go to my temp
>>>>>>>>>>>> files rather than my Downloads directory. I'm not sure how
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple handles share links though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify - are you saying that you don't read
>>>>>>>>>>> newsgroup posts on your MacBookPro?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What about Google Group posts? Would you click a link therein
>>>>>>>>>>> on your Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought of that, but haven't done so yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a link to save you searching:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.photo.digital/c/MFihOePNSPs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you haven't already watched, it's quite fun! ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have watched it before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a notion that you had.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I watched it on my laptop and it hasn't shown up in my iCloud
>>>>>>>> Drive -- yet. I'll check again later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean on a device OTHER than your MacBook Pro?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, that is my only Apple device in this context.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. But you do realise that you can look at www.iCloud.com on ANY
>>>>> computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suspect that you'll not see it appear on your iCloud Drive. I
>>>>>>> cannot reproduce the finding, no matter what I have tried.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still not there. I don't expect it to be, and I certainly don't
>>>>>> expect a 'Shared by anybody...' caption under the icon unless it
>>>>>> was shared.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's just as it should be, I'm sure!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a 'test' share for you!
>>>>> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0b2oNU22S6PTlwi_FHDlaMy3w#Steam_Engine_Trimmed
>>>>
>>>> Seen it before, had the choice of download or sign in, so I
>>>> downloaded. It is in my downloads folder. Still nothing in my iCloud
>>>> Drive. I don't know what would have happened had I been already
>>>> signed in to iCloud.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for helping with the experimenting. :-)
>>>
>>> I wonder if the poster calling itself 'nospam' would explain matters
>>> to YOU. Would you please ask him to explain what he/she thinks could
>>> have caused uninvited links to appear in an iCloud Drive - especially
>>> as neither you nor I can now replicate matters? TIA
>>
>> May I enquire WHY you have apparently lost interest, FTR?
>>
>> Are you ill again?
>
> Always, but there is nothing I can do on my end to replicate your
> scenario. I have no other devices in my Apple World to share stuff with
> to see if it 'lands' anything in my iCloud Drive. What you shared to me,
> shows up as shared -- but nothing else showed up as shared.
>
> My sister bought a new laptop and I am trying to migrate her stuff onto
> it. My major hurdles these days is that everyone expects a telephone
> number to be textable and the recovery tel# they ask for is useless when
> they only text you. Add to that that she has her google recovery email
> address set to a defunct old provider's xxx@ne.rr.com address.
>
> I'm fixing it though.

On 25/10/2022 00:20, nospam wrote:
> In article <aHE5L.2264112$ulh3.1612629@fx06.ams1>, David Brooks
> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>
>>
>> Observations have been made, which nobody can explain.
>
> several people have, and multiple times, which you continue to ignore.

Please show a Message ID ..... or MORE if you can identify them.

On 09/11/2022 17:12, David Brooks wrote:
> On 25/10/2022 00:20, nospam wrote:
>> In article <aHE5L.2264112$ulh3.1612629@fx06.ams1>, David Brooks
>> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Observations have been made, which nobody can explain.
>>
>> several people have, and multiple times, which you continue to ignore.
>
> Please show a Message ID ..... or MORE if you can identify them.

"Some of the telltale signs that a rootkit is present include
unexplained changes in target systems, strange files in the home
directory of root, or unusual network activity."

Ref:- https://www.esecurityplanet.com/networks/rootkit-threats/

--
Regards,
David

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:53:54 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid>
wrote:

>On 09/11/2022 17:12, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 25/10/2022 00:20, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <aHE5L.2264112$ulh3.1612629@fx06.ams1>, David Brooks
>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Observations have been made, which nobody can explain.
>>>
>>> several people have, and multiple times, which you continue to ignore.
>>
>> Please show a Message ID ..... or MORE if you can identify them.
>
>"Some of the telltale signs that a rootkit is present include
>unexplained changes in target systems, strange files in the home
>directory of root, or unusual network activity."
>
>Ref:- https://www.esecurityplanet.com/networks/rootkit-threats/

I see another drive wipe & OS install in your near future. You know you
want to.

On 11/11/2022 02:41, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:53:54 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 09/11/2022 17:12, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 25/10/2022 00:20, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <aHE5L.2264112$ulh3.1612629@fx06.ams1>, David Brooks
>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Observations have been made, which nobody can explain.
>>>>
>>>> several people have, and multiple times, which you continue to ignore.
>>>
>>> Please show a Message ID ..... or MORE if you can identify them.
>>
>> "Some of the telltale signs that a rootkit is present include
>> unexplained changes in target systems, strange files in the home
>> directory of root, or unusual network activity."
>>
>> Ref:- https://www.esecurityplanet.com/networks/rootkit-threats/
>
> I see another drive wipe & OS install in your near future. You know you
> want to.

Please post an EtreCheck scan of YOUR Apple iMac.

We can then compare.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 08:26:27 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid>
wrote:

>On 11/11/2022 02:41, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:53:54 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/11/2022 17:12, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 25/10/2022 00:20, nospam wrote:
>>>>> In article <aHE5L.2264112$ulh3.1612629@fx06.ams1>, David Brooks
>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Observations have been made, which nobody can explain.
>>>>>
>>>>> several people have, and multiple times, which you continue to ignore.
>>>>
>>>> Please show a Message ID ..... or MORE if you can identify them.
>>>
>>> "Some of the telltale signs that a rootkit is present include
>>> unexplained changes in target systems, strange files in the home
>>> directory of root, or unusual network activity."
>>>
>>> Ref:- https://www.esecurityplanet.com/networks/rootkit-threats/
>>
>> I see another drive wipe & OS install in your near future. You know you
>> want to.
>
>Please post an EtreCheck scan of YOUR Apple iMac.
>
>We can then compare.

It would be great if your knowledge level could somehow advance to the
point where you no longer need to compare what you see to what others
see. Until then, I'm not interested in comparing anything with you.
That's something that kids do.

On Nov 11, 2022 at 9:01:24 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<bh6umhlgsbciu3d6hsjeh80oen7l6ga95d@4ax.com>:

>> Please post an EtreCheck scan of YOUR Apple iMac.
>>
>> We can then compare.
>
> It would be great if your knowledge level could somehow advance to the
> point where you no longer need to compare what you see to what others
> see.

I do not see much problem with that. MUCH better than trying to compare to see
who is "better".

> Until then, I'm not interested in comparing anything with you.
> That's something that kids do.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 12/11/2022 05:03, Snit wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2022 at 9:01:24 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
> <bh6umhlgsbciu3d6hsjeh80oen7l6ga95d@4ax.com>:
>
>>> Please post an EtreCheck scan of YOUR Apple iMac.
>>>
>>> We can then compare.
>>
>> It would be great if your knowledge level could somehow advance to the
>> point where you no longer need to compare what you see to what others
>> see.
>
> I do not see much problem with that. MUCH better than trying to compare to see
> who is "better".

Indeed. You are quite right, Snit.

I strongly suspect that Kelly Phillips is simply unwilling to take the
risk of loading and running EtreCheck on her Apple computer.

As you know, it turned YOUR iMac into a 'brick'! ;-)

D.

David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/11/2022 05:03, Snit wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 2022 at 9:01:24 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <bh6umhlgsbciu3d6hsjeh80oen7l6ga95d@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>> Please post an EtreCheck scan of YOUR Apple iMac.
>>>>
>>>> We can then compare.
>>>
>>> It would be great if your knowledge level could somehow advance to the
>>> point where you no longer need to compare what you see to what others
>>> see.
>>
>> I do not see much problem with that. MUCH better than trying to compare to see
>> who is "better".
>
> Indeed. You are quite right, Snit.
>
> I strongly suspect that Kelly Phillips is simply unwilling to take the
> risk of loading and running EtreCheck on her Apple computer.
>
> As you know, it turned YOUR iMac into a 'brick'! ;-)
>
> D.
>
>

:)

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.