On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 17:54:51 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 2/03/2022 3:18 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:31:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/03/2022 10:47 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 at 10:31:17 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And here it comes! The previously never heard before relevant annecdote. Or
>>>>> in shorthand, a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're hopeless Fraudster, just hopeless.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>> Yaawwwwnn, ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
>>>
>>> Pretty pointless really, huh? Alvey comes in here to make these same
>>> nonsensical posts each and every day as if they've never been said
>>> before and everyone needs to hear them all over again.
>>>
>>> The funny part is that I don't think anyone genuinely gives a *fuck*
>>> about anything he has to say, but not only that all he manages to do is
>>> make himself look like a total crank who spends a fair portion of his
>>> day sitting in a dark corner somewhere rocking back and forth while
>>> eating his own shit and chanting "Ken Bruce has gone completely mad".
>>>
>>> The *best* part about it all is that he doesn't need any help from
>>> anyone to portray that image :)
>>
>> Nope, whine & bluster as much as you like Fraudster, but after you've wiped
>> your nose you'll *still* be a fraud, liar, hypocrite and pathetic coward.
>>
>> And btw, I'm *still* waiting for you to prove your claim about your wealth.
>> Ready when you are Fraudster!
>>
>
> He certainly has a lot to say for a bloke with no credibility.

Or interest in what we say.

alvey

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On 2/3/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>>
>>> Yes and?
>>
>>
>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and combustion
>>
> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant compared
> to you.
>
> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning buildings? It
> is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can dance around the fire
> as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby burn"?
>
> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science, I'll
> type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you to
> concentrate.
>
> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states, solid,
> liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice, water, and water
> vapour. Transitioning between these states involves latent energy, e.g.
> going from  liquid to gaseous,  (latent) heat of vaporization or heat of
> evaporation, is the amount of energy (enthalpy) that must be added to a
> liquid substance to transform a quantity of that substance into a gas.
>
> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of an IC
> engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio or a
> higher level of boost.
>
> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water would
> be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>
> Thus endeth the lesson.

LOL, nice:-)

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On 3/03/2022 9:04 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/3/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:

>>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and combustion
>>>
>> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant
>> compared to you.
>>
>> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning buildings?
>> It is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can dance around the
>> fire as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby burn"?
>>
>> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science, I'll
>> type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you to
>> concentrate.
>>
>> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states, solid,
>> liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice, water, and water
>> vapour. Transitioning between these states involves latent energy,
>> e.g. going from  liquid to gaseous,  (latent) heat of vaporization or
>> heat of evaporation, is the amount of energy (enthalpy) that must be
>> added to a liquid substance to transform a quantity of that substance
>> into a gas.
>>
>> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of an IC
>> engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
>> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio or a
>> higher level of boost.
>>
>> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water
>> would be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>>
>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>
>
> LOL, nice:-)

Yes, it was. Very. Yet another example of how keen Felix is to
demonstrate how utterly clueless he actually is, and being put back in
his box which will hopefully give the idiot a moment of pause and
motivate him to educate himself.

I don't know how old Felix is, but I believe he is somewhere around the
mid 70's or so. I may be wrong and if I am I'm happy to stand corrected,
but that's what I seem to recall being mentioned once. If that's the
case then genuinely am in amazement how someone who is so utterly
ignorant of the world in general as he *clearly* is could have got that
far without killing himself or everyone around him.

I mean, for fuck's sake this is a bloke who cannot tell that a computer
generated animation of a truck used in a video game isn't real....

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Noddy.

On 2/03/2022 4:34 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 2/3/2022 5:01 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 3:21 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2022 3:26 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 8:59 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:55:04 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>>>>> troll
>>>>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>>>>> sell.
>>>>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>>>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And
>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>>>>> processing or
>>>>>> media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
>>>>>> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port
>>>>>> usb hub
>>>>>> and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>>>>
>>>>> * snort *
>>>>> That computer was working fine when it left here, and if someone
>>>>> frigged with it en route that's not my affair.
>>>>
>>>> Not concerned whether it works or not, its end of life. If it keeps
>>>> going for any length of time it is a bonus.
>>>
>>> It will keep going for years and years.
>>>>
>>>>> Clearly and sadly you survived the Cretaceous extinction; things have
>>>>> moved on.   Have you ever split fingernails extracting HDDs from a
>>>>> bank of tower enclosures?  Have you been maddened trying  to
>>>>> plug/unplug those hideous Sata plugs/sockets?  Someone has invented
>>>>> USB3+ now; check it out.
>>>>
>>>> I've probably repaired more computers than you've had hot breakfasts.
>>>
>>> OMIGOD, here comes the self-aggrandisement! Frankly my dear, who
>>> gives a stuff that you were stuck at the hardware level and never
>>> moved onwards and upwards from there? Speaking of
>>> self-aggrandisement, how's that *Masters Degree* you boasted about,
>>> the one you *claimed* you were undertaking? That was about the same
>>> time your woman pissed you off and your tech career turned to shit
>>> and you ended up *retired*. You've not mentioned it since,
>>> unsurprisingly.
>>>
>> Once again you fail to understand anything. I was always retiring at
>> 58 whether or not my ex was with me. I withdrew from undertaking the
>
> Yeah, right!
>
>> masters as I undertook further manufacturer training which was more
>> relevant to my job. My work didn't go to shit, I had enough to retire
>
> What a load of piffle. You only mentioned doing a masters in order to
> big yourself. I doubt you ever signed up. As for your work, you were
> still on the lowest rungs of the ladder. No doubt your *employer* was
> beginning to think you were a *bit past it* and decided you needed to be
> put out to pasture. Happy grazing in the paddock!

They still get me to work for them. Funny that. So much for being put
out to pasture. As for being on the lowest rung of the ladder.... I was
flown around the state training others. Hmm must have needed to be put
out to pasture... Your full of shit as usual.
>
>> and enjoy my life. That's what smart people do. I still dabble
>> somewhat when needed for pocket money for my hobby.
>>
> That's what Super is for. My retirement was planned for 58 but life
> threw me a curveball so I ended up retired at *48* but way better off
> financially.

My super covers all my needs however sometimes I like to buy myself toys
to play with. Expensive ones. I still get jobs from the company I worked
for when I want to earn some pocket money as I said. It pays for camera
lenses for my camera which at a few thousand each would eat into my
super a bit.

>>
>>
>>>> Nothing hard about removing hard drives from a tower at all. Except
>>>> for aio pc's in which case it can be a pita. Sata cables were a
>>>> major step up from ide. I've even installed scsi devices. and custom
>>>> built scsi cables.
>>>
>>> WFM, so have I and I don't even consider myself a PC tech. And I was
>>> tinkering with SCSI devices and custom building computers in the
>>> *80s*. Made up all sorts of ribbon cables back then, it isn't
>>> difficult if you have the right gear, you know.
>>>>
>> I do, and I also know that sata cables are ridiculously easy to
>> install and remove.
>
> And your point is?

The original poster claimed they were hard to remove... Comprehension
and following the thread is not your strong suit.

>>
>>>>> I use our new NUC for Photoshop, LAN cables, Movies, MSoft365, and
>>>>> these's no reduction in speed.
>>>>
>>>> Right there is where you made yourself look like a complete idiot. I
>>>> wonder if you can work out why.
>>>
>>> Obviously you are not up to date with *new* tech. My Macbook Air is
>>> more than capable of such tasks. That's why I bought it. A well
>>> equipped NUC would be similarly capable.
>>
>> And yet another complete idiot joins the party. So much for being so
>> tech savvy... So much for being a proof reader for uni students, if
>> you couldn't work out what is wrong in what is written there then you
>> are an embarrassment to education standards.
>>
> Typographical errors don't count in usenet.

I wasn't talking about the obvious typo. You're an idiot if you think
that was my issue. Please tell me how he uses his new nuc for "Lan
Cables"? How is your macbook air capable of the same. Bloody idiot.

>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wise up & plod off!
>>>>
>>>> Really. You're so charming. Obviously you went to xeno's school of
>>>> charm. What an Idiot.
>>>
>>> Well, it's obvious he didn't go to Darren's FLCJC school of charm,
>>> the obvious clue, no toxic expletives. You, on the other hand, are
>>> obviously a graduate.
>>
>> Wow no toxic expletives from me. No garbage either. Maybe I didn't go
>> to either school.
>>>>
>>>> Off you go back to aus.tv or wherever you toddled in from.
>>>
>>> Hate to tell you *again* Grumpy, usenet doesn't work that way. Peter
>>> is free to come and go as he pleases, and I'm sure he will.
>>>
>>
>> Of course he can. I'm just suggesting this isn't the right group for
>> him and he would be better served in a place that welcomes fools...
>>
>
How about you bugger off to alt.im.to.stupid.to.be.on.usenet

On 3/03/2022 3:32 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 17:54:51 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 2/03/2022 3:18 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:31:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/03/2022 10:47 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 at 10:31:17 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And here it comes! The previously never heard before relevant annecdote. Or
>>>>>> in shorthand, a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're hopeless Fraudster, just hopeless.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>> Yaawwwwnn, ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
>>>>
>>>> Pretty pointless really, huh? Alvey comes in here to make these same
>>>> nonsensical posts each and every day as if they've never been said
>>>> before and everyone needs to hear them all over again.
>>>>
>>>> The funny part is that I don't think anyone genuinely gives a *fuck*
>>>> about anything he has to say, but not only that all he manages to do is
>>>> make himself look like a total crank who spends a fair portion of his
>>>> day sitting in a dark corner somewhere rocking back and forth while
>>>> eating his own shit and chanting "Ken Bruce has gone completely mad".
>>>>
>>>> The *best* part about it all is that he doesn't need any help from
>>>> anyone to portray that image :)
>>>
>>> Nope, whine & bluster as much as you like Fraudster, but after you've wiped
>>> your nose you'll *still* be a fraud, liar, hypocrite and pathetic coward.
>>>
>>> And btw, I'm *still* waiting for you to prove your claim about your wealth.
>>> Ready when you are Fraudster!
>>>
>>
>> He certainly has a lot to say for a bloke with no credibility.
>
> Or interest in what we say.
>

Indeed.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/03/2022 12:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:32 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 17:54:51 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/03/2022 3:18 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:31:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/03/2022 10:47 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 at 10:31:17 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And here it comes! The previously never heard before relevant
>>>>>>> annecdote. Or
>>>>>>> in shorthand, a lie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're hopeless Fraudster, just hopeless.
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yaawwwwnn, ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty pointless really, huh? Alvey comes in here to make these same
>>>>> nonsensical posts each and every day as if they've never been said
>>>>> before and everyone needs to hear them all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The funny part is that I don't think anyone genuinely gives a *fuck*
>>>>> about anything he has to say, but not only that all he manages to
>>>>> do is
>>>>> make himself look like a total crank who spends a fair portion of his
>>>>> day sitting in a dark corner somewhere rocking back and forth while
>>>>> eating his own shit and chanting "Ken Bruce has gone completely mad".
>>>>>
>>>>> The *best* part about it all is that he doesn't need any help from
>>>>> anyone to portray that image :)
>>>>
>>>> Nope, whine & bluster as much as you like Fraudster, but after
>>>> you've wiped
>>>> your nose you'll *still* be a fraud, liar, hypocrite and pathetic
>>>> coward.
>>>>
>>>> And btw, I'm *still* waiting for you to prove your claim about your
>>>> wealth.
>>>> Ready when you are Fraudster!
>>>>
>>>
>>> He certainly has a lot to say for a bloke with no credibility.
>>
>> Or interest in what we say.
>>
>
> Indeed.
>

yes he's a liar, a fool, and a coward. says he has no interest, but
looks for every opportunity to comment, but can't comment directly
because he's hiding behind his castle wall. he has no integrity and no
authority.

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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 11:55 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 9:04 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 2/3/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>>
>> LOL, nice:-)
>
> Yes, it was.
>

only ppl as stupid as you three could possibly think that I believe
water is flammable.

--
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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 11:55 am, Noddy wrote:
> someone who is so utterly ignorant of the world in general as he
> *clearly* is

here we have a good example of a  little trick you employ when
commenting. you make a statement that is nothing more than opinion, but
is proffered as fact, followed by another statement in support that
appears to be factually based, but in reality is nothing more than more
opinion, so that together both remarks appear as as if you're stating a
fact. it's never worked for you, and it never will.

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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 2/03/2022 7:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 8:27 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 at 18:18:47 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>
>>>
>>> And btw, I'm *still* waiting for you to prove your claim about your
>>> wealth.
>>> Ready when you are Fraudster!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>>   *Please*hold yer breath. <G>
>
> And there's yet *another* tick in the checklist of "Things that make
> Alvey a screaming fucktard": His sense of entitlement. His firmly held
> belief that I have to hand over whatever information he sees fit to
> demand whenever he stamps his feet for it.
>
> We'll have to start calling him Karen :)
>

What is interesting is your sudden about-face when it came time for you
to prove *your* claims. Prior to that you were *always* banging on about
people needing to prove their claims, for example.

Noddy 03May18;

"What part of the burden of proof lying with the one who makes the claim
do you not understand?"

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/03/2022 3:33 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>>>
>>>> Yes and?
>>>
>>>
>>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and combustion
>>>
>> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant
>> compared to you.
>>
>> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning buildings?
>> It is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can dance around the
>> fire as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby burn"?
>>
>> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science, I'll
>> type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you to
>> concentrate.
>>
>> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states, solid,
>> liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice, water, and water
>> vapour. Transitioning between these states involves latent energy,
>> e.g. going from  liquid to gaseous, (latent) heat of vaporization or
>> heat of evaporation, is the amount of energy (enthalpy) that must be
>> added to a liquid substance to transform a quantity of that substance
>> into a gas.
>>
>> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of an IC
>> engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
>> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio or a
>> higher level of boost.
>>
>> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water
>> would be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>>
>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>
>
> duh! you really are a pretentious conceited asshole,  arn't you.
> (rhetorical question). of course it's evaporated. that's what I meant by
> simply saying it's 'burnt'. it cannot remain in it's liquid state. noddy
> can't see beyond the end of his nose, and you can't see beyond your ego.
>
>
Burnt and evaporated are completely different things. You're backing up
faster than an Italian tank, and trying to blame others for your fuckup.
You were given adequate chance to change your story but doubled down on
it - so take it like a man and admit that you didn't know what you were
talking about.

On 3/03/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:33 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and
>>>>>>>>>> also water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and
>>>> combustion
>>>>
>>> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant
>>> compared to you.
>>>
>>> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning
>>> buildings? It is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can dance
>>> around the fire as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby burn"?
>>>
>>> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science, I'll
>>> type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you to
>>> concentrate.
>>>
>>> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states, solid,
>>> liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice, water, and
>>> water vapour. Transitioning between these states involves latent
>>> energy, e.g. going from  liquid to gaseous, (latent) heat of
>>> vaporization or heat of evaporation, is the amount of energy
>>> (enthalpy) that must be added to a liquid substance to transform a
>>> quantity of that substance into a gas.
>>>
>>> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of an
>>> IC engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
>>> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio or
>>> a higher level of boost.
>>>
>>> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water
>>> would be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>>>
>>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>>
>>
>> duh! you really are a pretentious conceited asshole,  arn't you.
>> (rhetorical question). of course it's evaporated. that's what I meant
>> by simply saying it's 'burnt'. it cannot remain in it's liquid state.
>> noddy can't see beyond the end of his nose, and you can't see beyond
>> your ego.
>>
>>
> Burnt and evaporated are completely different things. You're backing
> up faster than an Italian tank, and trying to blame others for your
> fuckup. You were given adequate chance to change your story but
> doubled down on it - so take it like a man and admit that you didn't
> know what you were talking about.

by saying 'burnt' I meant it changes to a gaseous state by the intense
heat. that's exctly what I meant. being pedantic about my choice of
words won't cut it for you. shirly you can't really believe I thought
water is a flammable liquid? or are you really that stupid? but maybe
you are because you thought it was necessary to explain the three states
that water can exist in above.

--
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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>
>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>
>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>> sell.
>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And it was
>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>
>>
>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
>> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>
> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing your
> childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry laddie, it
> doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom built units like
> this one.

Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?

Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess
> of the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.

Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a laptop
these days. The age of the machine would mean that the components would
have little value these days, the power supply may be worth something
but the rest would be e-waste.

> That won't happen
> however and it now has a *new* lease of life here as a very fast Linux
> workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10 F-LUX midi tower case to
> transfer all the gubbins into. Using a Thermaltake 500W PSU instead of
> the http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880 that
> it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?

Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may be
interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.

>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing
>> or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
>> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb
>> hub and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>
> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you wouldn't
> make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite literally dwarfed
> my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it was big after he had
> picked it up, I just didn't realise how big. Too big for my needs.

That makes it even less saleable.

>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>
>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>
> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't worth 2
> knobs of goat shit.

That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for you
just don't believe that you have something of value, just think, there
was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.

On 2/03/2022 3:56 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah man!
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>
>>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>>
>>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>>> *knew* :)
>>>>
>>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>>
>>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>>
>>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
>>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>>> humid weather,
>>>
>>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>>
>>
>> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence makes it
>> a statement.
>
> That makes sense.
> In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last said on a
> subject is the truth'.
>
> It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster obvious lie
> and/or decided not to comment on it.

It's insightful that none of your mob didn't pick up on felix's claim
that water is burnt in an IC engine and/or decided not to comment on it.

On 3/03/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>> troll
>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>
>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>> sell.
>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>
>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing your
>> childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry laddie,
>> it doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom built
>> units like this one.
>
> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?

duh! because commercial products may use cheap or inadequate components
or be made to last only a certain time.

>
>
>>
>>  Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess of
>> the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>
> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a laptop
> these days. The age of the machine would mean that the components
> would have little value these days, the power supply may be worth
> something but the rest would be e-waste.

have fun explaining then why old computer parts sell easily on ebay,
sometimes for more than their newer equivalents, video cards being a
prime example.

>
>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here
>> as a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10 F-LUX
>> midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a Thermaltake
>> 500W PSU instead of the
>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880 that
>> it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>
> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may be
> interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.
>
>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>> processing or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half
>>> the size of a tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc
>>> and 10 port usb hub and optical drive (who uses those any more) are
>>> minimal at best.
>>
>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you wouldn't
>> make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite literally
>> dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it was big
>> after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big. Too big for
>> my needs.
>
> That makes it even less saleable.
>
>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>
>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>
>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't
>> worth 2 knobs of goat shit.
>
> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for you
> just don't believe that you have something of value, just think, there
> was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>

it was sold for a bargain price for a quick sale. ever heard of that
marketing philosophy?

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 3:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 3:56 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah man!
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the
>>>>>> tall
>>>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>>>> *knew* :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>>>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>>>
>>>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
>>>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>>>> humid weather,
>>>>
>>>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>>>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence
>>> makes it
>>> a statement.
>>
>> That makes sense.
>> In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last
>> said on a
>> subject is the truth'.
>>
>> It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster obvious
>> lie
>> and/or decided not to comment on it.
>
> It's insightful that none of your mob didn't pick up on felix's claim
> that water is burnt in an IC engine and/or decided not to comment on it.
>

probably because they're smart enough to understand what I meant, unlike
your lot

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 2:28 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:33 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and
>>>>>>>>>>> also water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes and?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and
>>>>> combustion
>>>>>
>>>> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant
>>>> compared to you.
>>>>
>>>> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning
>>>> buildings? It is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can dance
>>>> around the fire as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby burn"?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science, I'll
>>>> type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you to
>>>> concentrate.
>>>>
>>>> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states, solid,
>>>> liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice, water, and
>>>> water vapour. Transitioning between these states involves latent
>>>> energy, e.g. going from  liquid to gaseous, (latent) heat of
>>>> vaporization or heat of evaporation, is the amount of energy
>>>> (enthalpy) that must be added to a liquid substance to transform a
>>>> quantity of that substance into a gas.
>>>>
>>>> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of an
>>>> IC engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
>>>> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio or
>>>> a higher level of boost.
>>>>
>>>> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water
>>>> would be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>>>>
>>>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>>>
>>>
>>> duh! you really are a pretentious conceited asshole,  arn't you.
>>> (rhetorical question). of course it's evaporated. that's what I meant
>>> by simply saying it's 'burnt'. it cannot remain in it's liquid state.
>>> noddy can't see beyond the end of his nose, and you can't see beyond
>>> your ego.
>>>
>>>
>> Burnt and evaporated are completely different things. You're backing
>> up faster than an Italian tank, and trying to blame others for your
>> fuckup. You were given adequate chance to change your story but
>> doubled down on it - so take it like a man and admit that you didn't
>> know what you were talking about.
>
>
> by saying 'burnt' I meant it changes to a gaseous state by the intense
> heat. that's exctly what I meant. being pedantic about my choice of
> words won't cut it for you. shirly you can't really believe I thought
> water is a flammable liquid? or are you really that stupid? but maybe
> you are because you thought it was necessary to explain the three states
> that water can exist in above.
>
>
Nothing pedantic about it, if something can be burnt, then it ks
inflammable. The words burnt and evaporated have completely different
meanings, and burnt does not mean converted to a gaseous state.

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014

burn (bɜrn)

v. burned burnt, burn•ing, v.i.
1. to consume fuel and give off heat, gases, and usu. light; be on fire.
2.
a. to undergo combustion; oxidize.
b. to undergo fission or fusion.

I explained it at length because you didn't seem to have a clue about
it, and needed some education. You may notice that something burnt has
given off heat whereas something evaporated has absorbed heat, that is a
major distinction. Maybe science just isn't your thing.

On 3/03/2022 3:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>>> troll
>>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>>> sell.
>>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>>
>>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing your
>>> childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry laddie,
>>> it doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom built
>>> units like this one.
>>
>> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?
>
>
> duh! because commercial products may use cheap or inadequate components
> or be made to last only a certain time.

Only if you buy cheap shit

>>>  Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess of
>>> the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>>
>> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a laptop
>> these days. The age of the machine would mean that the components
>> would have little value these days, the power supply may be worth
>> something but the rest would be e-waste.
>
>
> have fun explaining then why old computer parts sell easily on ebay,
> sometimes for more than their newer equivalents, video cards being a
> prime example.

that depends on the video card, if it is a recent powerful one then some
impoverished gamer my bid for it.

>>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here
>>> as a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10 F-LUX
>>> midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a Thermaltake
>>> 500W PSU instead of the
>>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880 that
>>> it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>>
>> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may be
>> interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.
>>
>>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>>> processing or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half
>>>> the size of a tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc
>>>> and 10 port usb hub and optical drive (who uses those any more) are
>>>> minimal at best.
>>>
>>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you wouldn't
>>> make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite literally
>>> dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it was big
>>> after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big. Too big for
>>> my needs.
>>
>> That makes it even less saleable.
>>
>>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>>
>>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>>
>>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't
>>> worth 2 knobs of goat shit.
>>
>> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for you
>> just don't believe that you have something of value, just think, there
>> was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>>
>
> it was sold for a bargain price for a quick sale. ever heard of that
> marketing philosophy?

Marketing philosophy is to price something to the maximum that you can
reasonably get, if these is little or no demand then you are forced to
unload it at a bargain price.

On 3/03/2022 3:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 3:56 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah man!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the
>>>>>>> tall
>>>>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>>>>> *knew* :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>>>>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
>>>>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>>>>> humid weather,
>>>>>
>>>>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>>>>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence
>>>> makes it
>>>> a statement.
>>>
>>> That makes sense.
>>> In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last
>>> said on a
>>> subject is the truth'.
>>>
>>> It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster obvious
>>> lie
>>> and/or decided not to comment on it.
>>
>> It's insightful that none of your mob didn't pick up on felix's claim
>> that water is burnt in an IC engine and/or decided not to comment on it.
>>
>
> probably because they're smart enough to understand what I meant, unlike
> your lot

They probably didn't want to embarrass you.

On 3/03/2022 4:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 2:28 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 3/03/2022 3:33 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 2/03/2022 5:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> also water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes and?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and
>>>>>> combustion
>>>>>>
>>>>> And you call Jonz a "Village idiot", he's an intellectual giant
>>>>> compared to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> If water burns, why do the fire brigade pour it on burning
>>>>> buildings? It is because it's cheaper than petrol and they can
>>>>> dance around the fire as the water burns up chanting "Burn baby
>>>>> burn"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway the next bit may be hard for you as it contains science,
>>>>> I'll type it slowly, you can stick your tongue out if it helps you
>>>>> to concentrate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most substances (not all but including water) have 3 states,
>>>>> solid, liquid, and gaseous, with water these are called ice,
>>>>> water, and water vapour. Transitioning between these states
>>>>> involves latent energy, e.g. going from liquid to gaseous,
>>>>> (latent) heat of vaporization or heat of evaporation, is the
>>>>> amount of energy (enthalpy) that must be added to a liquid
>>>>> substance to transform a quantity of that substance into a gas.
>>>>>
>>>>> So when water is converted into vapor in the induction system of
>>>>> an IC engine it absorbs energy cooling the mixture and preventing
>>>>> pre-detonation (Knocking). This allows a higher compression ratio
>>>>> or a higher level of boost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus water is evaporated not burnt, AFAIK, the only way that water
>>>>> would be "Burnt" would be in a thermo-nuclear reaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus endeth the lesson.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> duh! you really are a pretentious conceited asshole,  arn't you.
>>>> (rhetorical question). of course it's evaporated. that's what I
>>>> meant by simply saying it's 'burnt'. it cannot remain in it's
>>>> liquid state. noddy can't see beyond the end of his nose, and you
>>>> can't see beyond your ego.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Burnt and evaporated are completely different things. You're backing
>>> up faster than an Italian tank, and trying to blame others for your
>>> fuckup. You were given adequate chance to change your story but
>>> doubled down on it - so take it like a man and admit that you didn't
>>> know what you were talking about.
>>
>>
>> by saying 'burnt' I meant it changes to a gaseous state by the
>> intense heat. that's exctly what I meant. being pedantic about my
>> choice of words won't cut it for you. shirly you can't really believe
>> I thought water is a flammable liquid? or are you really that stupid?
>> but maybe you are because you thought it was necessary to explain the
>> three states that water can exist in above.
>>
>>
> Nothing pedantic about it, if something can be burnt, then it is
> inflammable.

and you noddy and deryl were the only ppl stupid enough to think I
believed water was flammable. (grubby and the village idiot were
probably too busy trying to tie their shoelaces to post)

> The words burnt and evaporated have completely different meanings, and
> burnt does not mean converted to a gaseous state.

it was what I meant by it

>
>
> Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014
>
> burn (bɜrn)
>
> v. burned burnt, burn•ing, v.i.
> 1. to consume fuel and give off heat, gases, and usu. light; be on fire.
> 2.
>   a. to undergo combustion; oxidize.
>   b. to undergo fission or fusion.
>
> I explained it at length because you didn't seem to have a clue about
> it, and needed some education. You may notice that something burnt has
> given off heat whereas something evaporated has absorbed heat, that is
> a major distinction. Maybe science just isn't your thing.

maybe not being a pompas ass just isn't your thing

--
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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 4:27 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>>>> troll
>>>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>>>> sell.
>>>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits. MB built in,
>>>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>>>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing
>>>> your childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry
>>>> laddie, it doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom
>>>> built units like this one.
>>>
>>> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?
>>
>>
>> duh! because commercial products may use cheap or inadequate
>> components or be made to last only a certain time.
>
> Only if you buy cheap shit

but if you build yourself you could build a better computer cheaper than
what you would pay for commercial 'cheap shit'

>
>>>>  Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess of
>>>> the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>>>
>>> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a
>>> laptop these days. The age of the machine would mean that the
>>> components would have little value these days, the power supply may
>>> be worth something but the rest would be e-waste.
>>
>>
>> have fun explaining then why old computer parts sell easily on ebay,
>> sometimes for more than their newer equivalents, video cards being a
>> prime example.
>
> that depends on the video card, if it is a recent powerful one then
> some impoverished gamer my bid for it.

it doesn't have to be recent or powerful. old video cards often sell for
$50 or $60, which low spec new cards can be bought for. a lot of ppl
want to keep their computers going if they can, rather than having to
replace them. it may come as huge shock to you to know that some ppl
haven't worked for NASA, or traveled to Japan, and don't have a lot of
money to throw around.

>
>>>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here
>>>> as a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10
>>>> F-LUX midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a
>>>> Thermaltake 500W PSU instead of the
>>>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880
>>>> that it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>>>
>>> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may
>>> be interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.
>>>
>>>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>>>> processing or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about
>>>>> half the size of a tower so your space savings when you add in the
>>>>> nuc and 10 port usb hub and optical drive (who uses those any
>>>>> more) are minimal at best.
>>>>
>>>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you
>>>> wouldn't make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite
>>>> literally dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it
>>>> was big after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big.
>>>> Too big for my needs.
>>>
>>> That makes it even less saleable.
>>>
>>>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>>>
>>>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't
>>>> worth 2 knobs of goat shit.
>>>
>>> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for
>>> you just don't believe that you have something of value, just think,
>>> there was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>>>
>>
>> it was sold for a bargain price for a quick sale. ever heard of that
>> marketing philosophy?
>
> Marketing philosophy is to price something to the maximum that you can
> reasonably get, if these is little or no demand then you are forced to
> unload it at a bargain price.
>

Oh dear, did I use the wrong word again?? I should have said marketing
strategy. silly me. It's a common practice for businesses to sell items
they want to be rid of at a bargain price, or below cost, just to clear
out stock. sometimes many items are sold this way at the same time. when
that happens it's usually called a 'Sale'. you may have heard of the term.

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 4:27 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 3:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 3:56 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah man!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in
>>>>>>>> the tall
>>>>>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>>>>>> *knew* :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>>>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining
>>>>>>>> apology, in
>>>>>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>>>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be
>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>>>>>> humid weather,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>>>>>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence
>>>>> makes it
>>>>> a statement.
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense.
>>>> In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last
>>>> said on a
>>>> subject is the truth'.
>>>>
>>>> It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster
>>>> obvious lie
>>>> and/or decided not to comment on it.
>>>
>>> It's insightful that none of your mob didn't pick up on felix's
>>> claim that water is burnt in an IC engine and/or decided not to
>>> comment on it.
>>>
>>
>> probably because they're smart enough to understand what I meant,
>> unlike your lot
>
> They probably didn't want to embarrass you.
>

no, my explanation is the correct one. nice try tho

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/3/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>
>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>> sell.
>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And it was
>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>
>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing your
>> childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry laddie, it
>> doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom built units
>> like this one.
>
> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?

Because you can pick and choose the best quality components for the task
rather than purchasing an OTS package that may have multiple compromises.
>
>  Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess
>> of the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>
> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a laptop
> these days. The age of the machine would mean that the components would

I have one of those. The laptop serves a *totally different purpose*. It
cannot possibly satisfy the needs that this i7 now fulfils.

> have little value these days, the power supply may be worth something
> but the rest would be e-waste.

Didn't you read what I wrote? The computer is back in use having been
*repurposed*. The only thing in it that *might* end up as waste is the
case as I have no need for such a large unit. The gubbins are all now
ensconced in this; https://www.antec.com/product/case/p10-flux
It replaced 2 other computers that were of ~2005 vintage, one of which I
gave away to a friend.
>
>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here as
>> a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10 F-LUX
>> midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a Thermaltake
>> 500W PSU instead of the
>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880 that
>> it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>
> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may be
> interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.

See above, it doesn't matter to me one whit. *I* have a use for it. I
was merely making a point concerning the value of individual bits and bobs.
>
>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing
>>> or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of
>>> a tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb
>>> hub and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>>
>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you wouldn't
>> make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite literally
>> dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it was big
>> after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big. Too big for
>> my needs.
>
> That makes it even less saleable.

As a *unit*. I mentioned saleability of individual bits. As with cars,
old computers are often worth more sold as parts than as a complete unit.
>
>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>
>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>
>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't worth
>> 2 knobs of goat shit.
>
> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for you

It does work for me, that's why I bought it.

> just don't believe that you have something of value, just think, there

It *is* of value - to me.

> was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>
Yes, he had no further use for it and, rather than binning it, sold it
cheap. Peter said as much in his response to another poster. I
understand that philosophy, it's why I gave away my older tower unit to
a person who couldn't afford even a token price. I wanted it to be
*used*, it is. I'm sure Peter just wanted his tower to be useful to
someone, it is, me!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/03/2022 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/3/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>>> troll
>>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>>> sell.
>>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And it
>>>>> was
>>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>>
>>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing your
>>> childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry laddie,
>>> it doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom built
>>> units like this one.
>>
>> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?
>
> Because you can pick and choose the best quality components for the
> task rather than purchasing an OTS package that may have multiple
> compromises.
>>
>>   Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess
>>> of the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>>
>> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a
>> laptop these days. The age of the machine would mean that the
>> components would
>
> I have one of those. The laptop serves a *totally different purpose*.
> It cannot possibly satisfy the needs that this i7 now fulfils.
>
>> have little value these days, the power supply may be worth something
>> but the rest would be e-waste.
>
> Didn't you read what I wrote? The computer is back in use having been
> *repurposed*. The only thing in it that *might* end up as waste is the
> case as I have no need for such a large unit. The gubbins are all now
> ensconced in this; https://www.antec.com/product/case/p10-flux

nice! you could put a decent computer into that for playing solitaire!  :)

> It replaced 2 other computers that were of ~2005 vintage, one of which
> I gave away to a friend.
>>
>>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here
>>> as a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10
>>> F-LUX midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a
>>> Thermaltake 500W PSU instead of the
>>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880 that
>>> it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>>
>> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may
>> be interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.
>
> See above, it doesn't matter to me one whit. *I* have a use for it. I
> was merely making a point concerning the value of individual bits and
> bobs.
>>
>>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>>> processing or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half
>>>> the size of a tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc
>>>> and 10 port usb hub and optical drive (who uses those any more) are
>>>> minimal at best.
>>>
>>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you wouldn't
>>> make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite literally
>>> dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it was big
>>> after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big. Too big
>>> for my needs.
>>
>> That makes it even less saleable.
>
> As a *unit*. I mentioned saleability of individual bits. As with cars,
> old computers are often worth more sold as parts than as a complete unit.
>>
>>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>>
>>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>>
>>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't
>>> worth 2 knobs of goat shit.
>>
>> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for you
>
> It does work for me, that's why I bought it.
>
>> just don't believe that you have something of value, just think, there
>
> It *is* of value - to me.
>
>> was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>>
> Yes, he had no further use for it and, rather than binning it, sold it
> cheap. Peter said as much in his response to another poster. I
> understand that philosophy, it's why I gave away my older tower unit
> to a person who couldn't afford even a token price. I wanted it to be
> *used*, it is. I'm sure Peter just wanted his tower to be useful to
> someone, it is, me!
>

you shot him down in flames! on every point. poor old keefy crashed and
burnt (but not vaporised!). RIP you silly old sod.

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 3/03/2022 4:08 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 4:27 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 3/03/2022 3:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 3:56 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah man!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in
>>>>>>>>> the tall
>>>>>>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>>>>>>> *knew* :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>>>>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining
>>>>>>>>> apology, in
>>>>>>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>>>>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be
>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>>>>>>> humid weather,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>>>>>>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence
>>>>>> makes it
>>>>>> a statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> That makes sense.
>>>>> In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last
>>>>> said on a
>>>>> subject is the truth'.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster
>>>>> obvious lie
>>>>> and/or decided not to comment on it.
>>>>
>>>> It's insightful that none of your mob didn't pick up on felix's
>>>> claim that water is burnt in an IC engine and/or decided not to
>>>> comment on it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> probably because they're smart enough to understand what I meant,
>>> unlike your lot
>>
>> They probably didn't want to embarrass you.
>>
>
> no, my explanation is the correct one. nice try tho
>
>
It just goes on and on, you're so convinced of your own righteousness
that you're a total embarrassment.

On 3/03/2022 4:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/03/2022 4:27 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 3/03/2022 3:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 3/03/2022 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 2/03/2022 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 2/3/22 08:55, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>>>>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a
>>>>>>>>> troll
>>>>>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>>>>>> sell.
>>>>>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits. MB built in,
>>>>>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>>>>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>>>>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>>>>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>>>>>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is
>>>>>> way past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously Grumpy, is that *all* you have? You're really showing
>>>>> your childish true colours here now! EOL? Surely you jest? Sorry
>>>>> laddie, it doesn't work that way with computers, especially custom
>>>>> built units like this one.
>>>>
>>>> Why would a custom built unit be any more reliable than any other?
>>>
>>>
>>> duh! because commercial products may use cheap or inadequate
>>> components or be made to last only a certain time.
>>
>> Only if you buy cheap shit
>
>
> but if you build yourself you could build a better computer cheaper than
> what you would pay for commercial 'cheap shit'

Commercial entities can buy the parts much cheaper than you can, 10
years or more ago, building your own was a good way to go but the world
has changed.

>>>>>  Any-single-component group in the PC can be sold for in excess of
>>>>> the $50 I paid should I see fit to scrap it.
>>>>
>>>> Since the world has moved on, the vast majority of users want a
>>>> laptop these days. The age of the machine would mean that the
>>>> components would have little value these days, the power supply may
>>>> be worth something but the rest would be e-waste.
>>>
>>>
>>> have fun explaining then why old computer parts sell easily on ebay,
>>> sometimes for more than their newer equivalents, video cards being a
>>> prime example.
>>
>> that depends on the video card, if it is a recent powerful one then
>> some impoverished gamer my bid for it.
>
>
> it doesn't have to be recent or powerful. old video cards often sell for
> $50 or $60, which low spec new cards can be bought for. a lot of ppl
> want to keep their computers going if they can, rather than having to
> replace them.

They'll end up with unsupported non-upgradable insecure machines just
waiting to become part of a bot net.

> it may come as huge shock to you to know that some ppl
> haven't worked for NASA, or traveled to Japan, and don't have a lot of
> money to throw around.

I'm sorry to hear that you're too poor to travel, perhaps you should
have worked harder or been more talented, but, never mind, alvey has
lots of money, perhaps he'll loan you some.

>>>>> That won't happen however and it now has a *new* lease of life here
>>>>> as a very fast Linux workstation. Even bought a *new* Antec P10
>>>>> F-LUX midi tower case to transfer all the gubbins into. Using a
>>>>> Thermaltake 500W PSU instead of the
>>>>> http://nordic.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000880
>>>>> that it came with. How much is one of these on the used market Grumps?
>>>>
>>>> Probably a lot less than you think. Some gamer or bitcoin miner may
>>>> be interested, but the market for these thing is shrinking rapidly.
>>>>
>>>>>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word
>>>>>> processing or media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about
>>>>>> half the size of a tower so your space savings when you add in the
>>>>>> nuc and 10 port usb hub and optical drive (who uses those any
>>>>>> more) are minimal at best.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had seen the Lian Li server case it all came in, you
>>>>> wouldn't make such frivolous and ridiculous comments. It quite
>>>>> literally dwarfed my tower cases. My mate in West Footscray said it
>>>>> was big after he had picked it up, I just didn't realise how big.
>>>>> Too big for my needs.
>>>>
>>>> That makes it even less saleable.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of enhancement headroom there. Currently your opinion isn't
>>>>> worth 2 knobs of goat shit.
>>>>
>>>> That's because you're out of touch, keep the thing if it works for
>>>> you just don't believe that you have something of value, just think,
>>>> there was a reason that it was given away rather than sold.
>>>>
>>>
>>> it was sold for a bargain price for a quick sale. ever heard of that
>>> marketing philosophy?
>>
>> Marketing philosophy is to price something to the maximum that you can
>> reasonably get, if these is little or no demand then you are forced to
>> unload it at a bargain price.
>>
>
> Oh dear, did I use the wrong word again?? I should have said marketing
> strategy. silly me. It's a common practice for businesses to sell items
> they want to be rid of at a bargain price, or below cost, just to clear
> out stock. sometimes many items are sold this way at the same time. when
> that happens it's usually called a 'Sale'. you may have heard of the term.

Exactly, when nobody wants it you have to either unload it at
essentially zero cost or send it to landfill.