Pipl wrote:

> Humans can see using red light at night without degrading night vision
> too much (hence red military torches, darkroom lights and red control
> room lights in submarines when at periscope depth or surfaced at
> night), which suggests that we see the more bluey-green colours rather
> more easily in low light (as the red light doesn't stimulate the
> green/blue receptors so much and therefore doesn't overload them).

Darkrooms are not red for night vision purposes, it's because the light
sensitive paper on which the B&W prints are made does not react to the
red light wavelengths. Which is handy.

In the "olden days" film also only reacted to the shorter wavelengths
of blue and green and could be developed in red light, but modern B&W
film is panchromatic and needs to be handled in total darkness.

--
Simon

On 15/11/2022 18:39, sweller wrote:
> Pipl wrote:
>
>> Humans can see using red light at night without degrading night vision
>> too much (hence red military torches, darkroom lights and red control
>> room lights in submarines when at periscope depth or surfaced at
>> night), which suggests that we see the more bluey-green colours rather
>> more easily in low light (as the red light doesn't stimulate the
>> green/blue receptors so much and therefore doesn't overload them).
>
> Darkrooms are not red for night vision purposes, it's because the light
> sensitive paper on which the B&W prints are made does not react to the
> red light wavelengths. Which is handy.
>
> In the "olden days" film also only reacted to the shorter wavelengths
> of blue and green and could be developed in red light, but modern B&W
> film is panchromatic and needs to be handled in total darkness.

I used to use 120 or 620 Pan when I was in short trowsis, so not *that*
modern.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can pick
>> from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>
> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it, not
> long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back - it
> really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>
I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have prostate
issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I finally had
last year just made it worse.
I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard on.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 16/11/2022 01:07, Turby wrote:
> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>
>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>
> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have prostate
> issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I finally had
> last year just made it worse.

Prolly won't help, then, as it over time, (and as an old crofter friend
of mine used to say: "When the Good Lord made time, He made plenty of
it.") shrinks the prostate.

> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard on.

Not heard of it. I'll take a tube...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

RustyHinge wrote:

> > In the "olden days" film also only reacted to the shorter
> > wavelengths of blue and green and could be developed in red light,
> > but modern B&W film is panchromatic and needs to be handled in
> > total darkness.
>
> I used to use 120 or 620 Pan when I was in short trowsis, so not that
> modern.

Panchromatic film was available at the early part of the last century
so probably not that modern but in the context of commercial camera
film wasn't widely available until post-war. I think...

Orthochromatic film is still available.

--
Simon

On 16/11/2022 01:07, Turby wrote:
> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>
>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>
> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have prostate
> issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I finally had
> last year just made it worse.
> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard on.
>

Understandable.
No.
<Googles>
Well that led me to a very long read indeed. Won't post a link but a
learned academic article I found could be paraphrased as "All you wanted
to know about your penis, but were afraid to ask".

Most informative.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:tl1d4e$260s7$1@dont-email.me:

> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>
>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>
> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have
> prostate issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I
> finally had last year just made it worse.
> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard
> on.
>

pull the other one

On 16/11/2022 12:58, wessie wrote:
> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:tl1d4e$260s7$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have
>> prostate issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I
>> finally had last year just made it worse.
>> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
>> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard
>> on.
>
> pull the other one

How many have you got?

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 11/16/2022 4:58 AM, wessie wrote:
> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:tl1d4e$260s7$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>>
>>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>>
>> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have
>> prostate issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I
>> finally had last year just made it worse.
>> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
>> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard
>> on.
>>
>
> pull the other one

Oh, that's when it gets really good.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 16/11/2022 02:07, Turby wrote:
>On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can pick
>>> from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>
>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it, not
>> long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back - it
>> really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>
>I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have prostate
>issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I finally had
>last year just made it worse.
>I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
>penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard on.

And that's a problem?

--
Geoff
NTV 650

On 16/11/2022 12:58, wessie wrote:
> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:tl1d4e$260s7$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>>
>>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>>
>> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have
>> prostate issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I
>> finally had last year just made it worse.
>> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
>> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard
>> on.
>>
>
> pull the other one

You've got two?

Are you RN or ex RN, then?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 16/11/2022 05:49, sweller wrote:
> RustyHinge wrote:
>
>>> In the "olden days" film also only reacted to the shorter
>>> wavelengths of blue and green and could be developed in red light,
>>> but modern B&W film is panchromatic and needs to be handled in
>>> total darkness.
>>
>> I used to use 120 or 620 Pan when I was in short trowsis, so not that
>> modern.
>
> Panchromatic film was available at the early part of the last century
> so probably not that modern but in the context of commercial camera
> film wasn't widely available until post-war. I think...

But then it wasn't until post-war that I became interested in
photography. Pre-war I wasn't, and the nearest I got to it *during* the
war was in front of a Polyphoto camera, and the Old Man's folding Kodak
120 - AFAIK.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 11/16/2022 8:37 AM, geoffC wrote:
> On 16/11/2022 02:07, Turby wrote:
>> On 11/13/2022 4:27 AM, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2022 21:53, Turby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, you wanna talk about the hassles of age, I got a list you can
>>>> pick from. Now, catheters are tedious.
>>>
>>> Ask your doctor about Finasteride. One day started to leak round it,
>>> not long after that it just slipped out and I've never looked back -
>>> it really does work. - I. P. Freely.
>>>
>> I will, but I kinda doubt it will help considering I don't have
>> prostate issues. I've had this most of my life, and the surgery I
>> finally had last year just made it worse.
>> I'm not fond of discussing it. Have you ever heard of EPVS? Enlarged
>> penis vibration syndrome. It acts like a vibrator when you get a hard on.
>
> And that's a problem?
>
For vaginal sex, no. But oral? Sorry, dear.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 12 Nov 2022 13:06:22 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>> > So, it is possible that it’s a proper design problem for Husqvarna
>> > [2], either that, or I’m clumsy idiot.
>> >
>> > Place bets now!
>
>> I'll have a look at the 401.
>>
>> Could it be an assembly issue?
>
>I've made a video [1]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ5b1gux2BE
>
>
>
>[1] "Have we got a video?"

Playing catch up here while trying not to succumb to jetlag.
I just popped to the shed and looked at the 890.
Same set up but with zip ties to stop your problem.
--
Mark Roberts

Mark Roberts wrote:

> > I've made a video [1]
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ5b1gux2BE

> Playing catch up here while trying not to succumb to jetlag.
> I just popped to the shed and looked at the 890.
> Same set up but with zip ties to stop your problem.

Are the cable ties a PO addition or OE?

--
Simon

On 20 Nov 2022 12:06:42 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> > I've made a video [1]
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ5b1gux2BE
>
>> Playing catch up here while trying not to succumb to jetlag.
>> I just popped to the shed and looked at the 890.
>> Same set up but with zip ties to stop your problem.
>
>Are the cable ties a PO addition or OE?

Well; I'm suspicious now. Been out riding in the wet and hosed the
bike down on my return. ABS & TC lights are now showing.
Possible the previous owner snagged his and tried to cover things up
with cable wrap and ties before chopping it in?
I'll ring the dealer in the morning; its still under warranty despite
being second hand. That cable and sensor is £104 plus VAT.

--
Mark Roberts

Mark Roberts wrote:

> > Are the cable ties a PO addition or OE?
>
> Well; I'm suspicious now. Been out riding in the wet and hosed the
> bike down on my return. ABS & TC lights are now showing.
> Possible the previous owner snagged his and tried to cover things up
> with cable wrap and ties before chopping it in?
> I'll ring the dealer in the morning; its still under warranty despite
> being second hand. That cable and sensor is £104 plus VAT.

Is the sensor cable damaged, and/or are there bodged cover up repairs?
In your pictures the cable wrap is where it would catch the tyre.

--
Simon

On 20 Nov 2022 18:58:39 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> > Are the cable ties a PO addition or OE?
>>
>> Well; I'm suspicious now. Been out riding in the wet and hosed the
>> bike down on my return. ABS & TC lights are now showing.
>> Possible the previous owner snagged his and tried to cover things up
>> with cable wrap and ties before chopping it in?
>> I'll ring the dealer in the morning; its still under warranty despite
>> being second hand. That cable and sensor is £104 plus VAT.
>
>Is the sensor cable damaged, and/or are there bodged cover up repairs?
>In your pictures the cable wrap is where it would catch the tyre.

Thats what I'm wondering. I'm not touching it until I've spoken to
them, to see what their response is.
The factory warranty should cover for faults but I'm not sure it will
cover the PO' bodgery.

--
Mark Roberts

sweller wrote:

> So, it is possible that it’s a proper design problem for Husqvarna
> [2], either that, or I’m clumsy idiot.
>
> Place bets now!

The dealer replaced the sensor and cable under warranty at today's 9000
mile service.

Hooray for Husqvarna!

--
Simon

sweller wrote:
>
> The dealer replaced the sensor and cable under warranty at today's 9000
> mile service.
>
> Hooray for Husqvarna!
>

All good.
What have they done to stop it happening again?
Zip tie?

Alex Ferrier wrote:

> What have they done to stop it happening again?
> Zip tie?

Yep.

--
Simon