On 23/05/2022 1:55 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/05/2022 12:38 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 22/05/2022 1:29 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 22/05/2022 12:43 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2022 6:05 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 19/05/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/05/2022 4:20 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/05/2022 4:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   And please, while you're on the
>>>>>>>> subject of "pitifully idiotic bullshit", don't start with the
>>>>>>>> "per capita" nonsense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Per capita is the only measure that matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per capita is completely nonsensical. The *only* figure that makes
>>>>>> any difference to the planet is the global total.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Trev, when are you going to stop with the rhetoric and start
>>>>>>>> leading by example?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **I already do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you? How?
>>>>>
>>>>> **Asked and answered.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   You know, sell your fossil fuel burning cars and buy an EV?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **As soon as we get a government that makes buying EVs
>>>>>>> attractive. The COALition has no interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh. So "doing your bit" is only okay if it's financially
>>>>>> attractive to you. Is that how it works?
>>>>>
>>>>> **No. It's more complex than that. I purchased a new car in 2017.
>>>>> It's five year warranty period falls due at the end of this year. I
>>>>> would not consider selling that car until the warranty period is
>>>>> finished. However, my next car will, almost certainly be a hybrid
>>>>> or a BEV. I am leaning towards a BEV right now. That may change.
>>>>> Depending on a bunch of factors:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Replacing a car every five years or so with a "greener" new one is a
>>>> very poor choice if your aim is to reduce your carbon footprint.
>>>> Look up 'embodied energy'.
>>>
>>> **No dispute from me. However, I have no immediate intention to do
>>> that. Also, it's not like my almost showroom condition Subaru will be
>>> scrapped when I sell it. Right now, it's worth a significant chunk on
>>> the second hand market. It will find lots more use after i sell it.
>>> Further: I've noted a couple of things about Subarus:
>>>
>>> * People seem to keep them for a very long time. Much longer than
>>> other brands. Make of that what you will.
>>> * They seem to command quite respectable second hand prices. Again:
>>> Make of that what you will.
>>
>>
>> There is nothing remarkable about Subaru that I have seen either in
>> resale value or in retention compared to other makes. I doubt very
>> much if Subaru would better Toyota in either department, for instance.
>>
>> Where are you getting your data from or is this a case of selection bias?
>>
>>
>
> **I'm going with selection bias.
>

Refreshing honesty ;-)