BRILLIANT!
Who singed off on that??

Nomen Nescio wrote:
> BRILLIANT!
> Who singed off on that??
>

link?

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Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
>
> link?
>

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-09/chinese-government-linked-cameras-found-in-government-buildings/101950236

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/09/chinese-made-security-cameras-to-be-removed-from-australia-government-buildings

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On 9/2/2023 3:17 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
>
> link?
>
No need for a link, it's in the TV news and will be in the newspapers
tomorrow.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 15:17:35 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
wrote:

>Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>
>link?
>
<https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/the-government-is-being-urged-to-rip-out-chinese-spy-cameras-heres-what-you-need-to-know/er7xk2cn2>
https://tinyurl.com/2yrduf66
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Great lawyers know the judge

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 2:43:36 PM UTC+11, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> BRILLIANT!
> Who singed off on that??

Chinese cameras attached to public service networks most definitely have been trying to phone home to China for instructions, since at least decade ago.
Meanwhile, just about all government departments have copied their core business into the Microsoft Cloud, into which the Chinese have easy access.
I have no idea who is signing off on these decisions, but I am absolutely certain that their recruitment descends fairly directly from the hiring practices entrenched by 'Doc' Evatt and his chum John Burton, and enthusiastically promoted by the DFAT.

Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-09/chinese-government-linked-cameras-found-in-government-buildings/101950236
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/09/chinese-made-security-cameras-to-be-removed-from-australia-government-buildings
>
>

Patterson calling for the cameras to be removed ASAP. Umm were they not
installed during the reign of his mob? Is he self aware?

On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:43:33 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:

> BRILLIANT!
> Who singed off on that??

hilarious...... replacing them with what, they do realise that hikvision
and dahua OEM dozens and dozens on brands...

remove one chinese brand for an american name branded but chinese made
device thats still really a hikvision or dahua undereath LOL

On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> BRILLIANT!
> Who singed off on that??
>
Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
bigger problem than the cameras themselves.

Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?

keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
> the government's ability to see whether they are sending information
> and where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that
> would be a bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>
> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?

only if it has a camera

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On 10/02/2023 5:56 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>> BRILLIANT!
>>> Who singed off on that??
>>>
>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
>> the government's ability to see whether they are sending information
>> and where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that
>> would be a bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>>
>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>
> only if it has a camera
>
I think that it listens.

keithr0 wrote:
> On 10/02/2023 5:56 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>> BRILLIANT!
>>>> Who singed off on that??
>>>>
>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't
>>> be beyond the government's ability to see whether they are sending
>>> information and where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them
>>> because that would be a bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>>>
>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>
>> only if it has a camera
>>
> I think that it listens.

what? voice commands to change channels etc ?

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:06:24 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>
> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?

Yep, we have the footage of what you got up to, you bugger.

WoozySong wrote on 9/2/23 10:12 pm:
> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-09/chinese-government-linked-cameras-found-in-government-buildings/101950236
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/09/chinese-made-security-cameras-to-be-removed-from-australia-government-buildings
>>
> Patterson calling for the cameras to be removed ASAP. Umm were they not
> installed during the reign of his mob? Is he self aware?

My wonder would be ..... Is it ONLY the Cameras that are sending the
pictures back home to China??

Surely the cameras are connected to servers .... which are connected to
intra-nets ..... which are connected to Internet!!

How much really needs to be removed to provide SECURITY?? At least it
will provide some security work for someone!! Will the lowest BID be
accepted??
--
Daniel

keithr0 wrote on 10/2/23 6:06 pm:
> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>
> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?

No, your T.V. is being run by some chick in the good'ol U.S. of A.,
isn't it??
--
Daniel

On 9 Feb 2023 22:06:42 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:43:33 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>
>hilarious...... replacing them with what, they do realise that hikvision
>and dahua OEM dozens and dozens on brands...
>
>remove one chinese brand for an american name branded but chinese made
>device thats still really a hikvision or dahua undereath LOL
>
Just a while ago I found my Norwegian Browser has been sold to the
Chinese, Tried FireFox but prefer to be spied on!
--
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"In China you have state-run media. In Australia, you have a media-run
state."

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:06:24 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> BRILLIANT!
>> Who singed off on that??
>>
>Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
>government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
>where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
>bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>
>Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>
Why do we care
Labor and Coalition are paid for by the Chinese!
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MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote fiefdom oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
wrote:

>keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>> BRILLIANT!
>>> Who singed off on that??
>>>
>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
>> the government's ability to see whether they are sending information
>> and where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that
>> would be a bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>>
>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>
>only if it has a camera

More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial not
Multicultural!
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
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MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote fiefdom oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

WoozySong

> Felix (now transmogrified into (Yosemite Sam) the ex-pat who lives under a rock somewhere in Septic Yankland >
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-09/chinese-government-linked-cameras-found-in-government-buildings/101950236
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/09/chinese-made-security-cameras-to-be-removed-from-australia-government-buildings
>>
Poor Felix. he can't even put together a proper comment on his own creation.
>
> Patterson calling for the cameras to be removed ASAP. Umm were they not
> installed during the reign of his mob? Is he self aware?

I am calling for the removal of Patterson ASAP. Send him to Trump as
advisor..they go well together.

This anti-China pro-World.War.3 hysterics have a long way to go yet.
Right-wing propaganda addicted creeps can't live without their self
sustaining doze of daily paranoia and fear-mongering.

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(The rumors of my permanent demise have been greatly exaggerated, :-P)

Daniel65
/snip/
> My wonder would be ..... Is it ONLY the Cameras that are sending the
> pictures back home to China??
>
> Surely the cameras are connected to servers .... which are connected to
> intra-nets ..... which are connected to Internet!!
>
> How much really needs to be removed to provide SECURITY?? At least it
> will provide some security work for someone!! Will the lowest BID be
> accepted??

You just can't kick that bad habit of yours trying to interject with
some sort of rational logic ruining all that juicy manufactured
fear-mongering outrage, eh Daniel! ;-P

Anyhow, I am all for creating new jobs for IT experts. But I certainly
hope this will happen in OZ and not being outsourced to India or some
other cheap labor country!

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In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.

I guess the cameras could have the spying capability externally
triggered so that even if they're working properly now, the Chinese
might be able to get control of them later. If they're really brave
then they could even build in something like a hidden mobile
broadband modem and send the video using that so that it doesn't
show up on the building's network at all (these security cameras
shouldn't be allowed to talk to the internet directly anyway). Then
the Chinese would really be in the bad books if someone pulled one
apart and found the hardware for that, but it could probably be
easily hidden from casual observation.

> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?

The actual reason that these cameras are a concern seems to just be
because in the USA the government banned this camera company from
selling their products there legally, by not allowing their
products FCC certification. The yanks don't seem to have said
publicly why they did that, but this seems this is a case of
"monkey see, monkey should have done".

But, as Noel pointed out, the Chinese OEM most stuff and the
companies who slap their brand on it don't know whether they really
used their firmware file, or substituted another one that works the
same but also contains spyware.

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Petzl wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2023 22:06:42 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:43:33 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>
>>> BRILLIANT!
>>> Who singed off on that??
>> hilarious...... replacing them with what, they do realise that hikvision
>> and dahua OEM dozens and dozens on brands...
>>
>> remove one chinese brand for an american name branded but chinese made
>> device thats still really a hikvision or dahua undereath LOL
>>
> Just a while ago I found my Norwegian Browser has been sold to the
> Chinese, Tried FireFox but prefer to be spied on!

did you know Avast have a secure browser ..
https://www.avast.com/en-au/secure-browser#pc

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On 11/02/2023 8:15 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond the
>> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
>> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be a
>> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>
> I guess the cameras could have the spying capability externally
> triggered so that even if they're working properly now, the Chinese
> might be able to get control of them later. If they're really brave
> then they could even build in something like a hidden mobile
> broadband modem and send the video using that so that it doesn't
> show up on the building's network at all (these security cameras
> shouldn't be allowed to talk to the internet directly anyway). Then
> the Chinese would really be in the bad books if someone pulled one
> apart and found the hardware for that, but it could probably be
> easily hidden from casual observation.

As you say, easy enough to prevent them from communicating elsewhere,
just by putting them on a secure network with no access to the internet.
It would seem a much simpler and cheaper solution than ripping the whole
lot out and replacing them with more cameras that may be just as bad.

The government has never had a clue about this. Back in the 70s, I used
to have to go to the taxation computer room regularly. The security was
good, there was just an anonymous door in the basement of the Treasury
Building with a bell push. The door would be opened admitting you to an
airlock, where you could be observed before the inner door was opened.
There was no reason that a visitor would think that there was anything
interesting behind that door, So what did they do? They stuck a CCTV
camera on the wall looking at the door making it obvious that there was
something interesting there. Where was the camera monitored? At the
police guard post just inside the main entrance, probably the most
insecure spot in the whole building.

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 13:44:38 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2023 22:06:42 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:43:33 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>
>>>> BRILLIANT!
>>>> Who singed off on that??
>>> hilarious...... replacing them with what, they do realise that hikvision
>>> and dahua OEM dozens and dozens on brands...
>>>
>>> remove one chinese brand for an american name branded but chinese made
>>> device thats still really a hikvision or dahua undereath LOL
>>>
>> Just a while ago I found my Norwegian Browser has been sold to the
>> Chinese, Tried FireFox but prefer to be spied on!
>
>did you know Avast have a secure browser ..
>https://www.avast.com/en-au/secure-browser#pc
>
Thanks for the heads up but I have my Opera browser set-up
Get to old and blind to walk another path.
__
Seems the Chinese Balloon components may of been supplied by Chinese
Spy, Joe Biden!
"The capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them":
Chairman XI

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:45:18 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 11/02/2023 8:15 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
>>> the
>>> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
>>> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would be
>>> a
>>> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>> I guess the cameras could have the spying capability externally
>> triggered so that even if they're working properly now, the Chinese
>> might be able to get control of them later. If they're really brave
>> then they could even build in something like a hidden mobile
>> broadband modem and send the video using that so that it doesn't
>> show up on the building's network at all (these security cameras
>> shouldn't be allowed to talk to the internet directly anyway). Then
>> the Chinese would really be in the bad books if someone pulled one
>> apart and found the hardware for that, but it could probably be
>> easily hidden from casual observation.
>
> As you say, easy enough to prevent them from communicating elsewhere,
> just by putting them on a secure network with no access to the internet.
> It would seem a much simpler and cheaper solution than ripping the whole
> lot out and replacing them with more cameras that may be just as bad.

Doesnt stop them calling home on the mobile system.

> The government has never had a clue about this.

Neither do you.

> Back in the 70s, I used to have to go to the taxation computer room
> regularly. The security was good, there was just an anonymous door in
> the basement of the Treasury Building with a bell push. The door would
> be opened admitting you to an airlock, where you could be observed
> before the inner door was opened. There was no reason that a visitor
> would think that there was anything interesting behind that door, So
> what did they do? They stuck a CCTV camera on the wall looking at the
> door making it obvious that there was something interesting there. Where
> was the camera monitored? At the police guard post just inside the main
> entrance, probably the most insecure spot in the whole building.