On 11/02/2023 6:15 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:45:18 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 11/02/2023 8:15 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>>>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
>>>> the
>>>> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
>>>> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would
>>>> be a
>>>> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>>>  I guess the cameras could have the spying capability externally
>>> triggered so that even if they're working properly now, the Chinese
>>> might be able to get control of them later. If they're really brave
>>> then they could even build in something like a hidden mobile
>>> broadband modem and send the video using that so that it doesn't
>>> show up on the building's network at all (these security cameras
>>> shouldn't be allowed to talk to the internet directly anyway). Then
>>> the Chinese would really be in the bad books if someone pulled one
>>> apart and found the hardware for that, but it could probably be
>>> easily hidden from casual observation.
>>
>> As you say, easy enough to prevent them from communicating elsewhere,
>> just by putting them on a secure network with no access to the internet.
>> It would seem a much simpler and cheaper solution than ripping the
>> whole lot out and replacing them with more cameras that may be just as
>> bad.
>
> Doesnt stop them calling home on the mobile system.

And how are they going to do that?

Ördög wrote on 11/2/23 8:35 am:
> Daniel65 /snip/
>> My wonder would be ..... Is it ONLY the Cameras that are sending
>> the pictures back home to China??
>>
>> Surely the cameras are connected to servers .... which are
>> connected to intra-nets ..... which are connected to Internet!!
>>
>> How much really needs to be removed to provide SECURITY?? At least
>> it will provide some security work for someone!! Will the lowest
>> BID be accepted??
>
> You just can't kick that bad habit of yours trying to interject

WHO?? ME!! ;-P

> with some sort of rational logic ruining all that juicy manufactured
> fear-mongering outrage, eh Daniel! ;-P

Maybe if I read more Rightist Newspapers/Websites, I could balance
myself out!!

> Anyhow, I am all for creating new jobs for IT experts. But I
> certainly hope this will happen in OZ and not being outsourced to
> India or some other cheap labor country!
>
But India is one of our QUAD mates. They wouldn't do anything against us
..... would they?? ;-P
--
Daniel

Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:07 am:
> On 9 Feb 2023 22:06:42 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:43:33 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>
>>> BRILLIANT!
>>> Who singed off on that??
>>
>> hilarious...... replacing them with what, they do realise that hikvision
>> and dahua OEM dozens and dozens on brands...
>>
>> remove one chinese brand for an american name branded but chinese made
>> device thats still really a hikvision or dahua undereath LOL
>>
> Just a while ago I found my Norwegian Browser has been sold to the
> Chinese, Tried FireFox but prefer to be spied on!
>
Previously, I used to connect to the Internet via an OPTUS Dongle ....
that was actually made by HUAWEI ..... so I often wondered if all my
Internet traffic/E-mail/ Newsgroups went via China somehow!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:17 am:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
> wrote:
>> keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>> BRILLIANT! Who singed off on that??
>>>>
>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It
>>> shouldn't be beyond the government's ability to see whether they
>>> are sending information and where. At least I hope that it isn't
>>> beyond them because that would be a bigger problem than the
>>> cameras themselves.
>>>
>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>
>> only if it has a camera
>
> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial

There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!

> not Multicultural!
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
--
Daniel

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:02:43 +1100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:17 am:
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
>> wrote:
>>> keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>> BRILLIANT! Who singed off on that??
>>>>>
>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It
>>>> shouldn't be beyond the government's ability to see whether they
>>>> are sending information and where. At least I hope that it isn't
>>>> beyond them because that would be a bigger problem than the
>>>> cameras themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>>
>>> only if it has a camera
>>
>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>
>There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>
You been taught that?
I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>
>> not Multicultural!
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:21:20 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> On 11/02/2023 6:15 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:45:18 +1100, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/02/2023 8:15 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing anything
>>>>> nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It shouldn't be beyond
>>>>> the
>>>>> government's ability to see whether they are sending information and
>>>>> where. At least I hope that it isn't beyond them because that would
>>>>> be a
>>>>> bigger problem than the cameras themselves.
>>>> I guess the cameras could have the spying capability externally
>>>> triggered so that even if they're working properly now, the Chinese
>>>> might be able to get control of them later. If they're really brave
>>>> then they could even build in something like a hidden mobile
>>>> broadband modem and send the video using that so that it doesn't
>>>> show up on the building's network at all (these security cameras
>>>> shouldn't be allowed to talk to the internet directly anyway). Then
>>>> the Chinese would really be in the bad books if someone pulled one
>>>> apart and found the hardware for that, but it could probably be
>>>> easily hidden from casual observation.
>>>
>>> As you say, easy enough to prevent them from communicating elsewhere,
>>> just by putting them on a secure network with no access to the
>>> internet.
>>> It would seem a much simpler and cheaper solution than ripping the
>>> whole lot out and replacing them with more cameras that may be just as
>>> bad.

>> Doesnt stop them calling home on the mobile system.

> And how are they going to do that?

Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:48:58 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:02:43 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:17 am:
>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
>>> wrote:
>>>> keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>> BRILLIANT! Who singed off on that??
>>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It
>>>>> shouldn't be beyond the government's ability to see whether they
>>>>> are sending information and where. At least I hope that it isn't
>>>>> beyond them because that would be a bigger problem than the
>>>>> cameras themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>>>
>>>> only if it has a camera
>>>
>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>
>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>
> You been taught that?
> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.

Hasnt been like that for a long time now and now
not even half of us are actually stupid enough to
bother with that particular sky fairy.

> Declared as such by Australia's constitution

BULLSHIT.

>>> not Multicultural!
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>

Daniel65 wrote:

/Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
malicious wankers residing in my killfile/

> Previously, I used to connect to the Internet via an OPTUS Dongle ....
> that was actually made by HUAWEI ..... so I often wondered if all my
> Internet traffic/E-mail/ Newsgroups went via China somehow!! ;-P

Just imagine what they could do with all that top secret info .... if
they managed to win World War 3, that would be because all that amazing
intel they'd managed to gather from your dongle.

It will be all your fault! :-P

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Daniel65

/Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
malicious wankers residing in my killfile/

> Petz
>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges! Under
>> the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>
So, Petz dear, what is the "race" according to you Bible definitions of
a non-Xtian?
>
> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>

Not much use telling that to racists who confuse variation in human
phenotype (due to only three or four gene variants) and some
social/cultural/ethnic differences with the science fact of speciation.

They are all scientific illiterate nitwits. We are all belong to *homo
sapience sapience*, (although that second "sapience" part is somewhat
sus when seeing what sort of posts are originating from Petz's, and his
idiotic newsgroup mates' sick brains)

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 03:42:28 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>
>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>
>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>
>> You been taught that?
>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>
>Hasnt been like that for a long time now and now
>not even half of us are actually stupid enough to
>bother with that particular sky fairy.
>
Has been Christian since Federation, if that Guarantee was not given
to the Colonists of the day the Australian Commonwealth would not of
been born!

>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
Read the very first line of it fool.

It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening words to our
Constitution,
"Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
"...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input.

Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
Commonwealth’.

>>>> not Multicultural!
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

On 12/02/2023 8:05 am, Ördög wrote:
> Daniel65
>
> /Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
> malicious wankers residing in my killfile/
>
>> Petz
>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
> >
> So, Petz dear, what is the "race" according to you Bible definitions of
> a non-Xtian?
>>
>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>
>
> Not much use telling that to racists who confuse variation in human
> phenotype (due to only three or four gene variants) and some
> social/cultural/ethnic differences with the science fact of speciation.
>
> They are all scientific illiterate nitwits. We are all belong to *homo
> sapience sapience*, (although that second "sapience" part is somewhat
> sus when seeing what sort of posts are originating from Petz's, and his
> idiotic newsgroup mates' sick brains)

LOL

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:50:38 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 03:42:28 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>
>>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>
>>> You been taught that?
>>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>
>> Hasnt been like that for a long time now and now
>> not even half of us are actually stupid enough to
>> bother with that particular sky fairy.

> Has been Christian since Federation,

But only a minority are that stupid anymore.

> if that Guarantee was not given
> to the Colonists of the day the Australian Commonwealth would not of
> been born!

There never was any such guarantee.

>>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>
>> BULLSHIT.

> Read the very first line of it fool.

Read Sect 116, fuckwit.

> It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
> places us under God

BULLSHIT.

> - the Christian God,

Doesnt even mention any specific god.

> whose compound redemptive
> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

BULLSHIT.

> Following the opening words to our
> Constitution,
> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

Doesnt even say which god, fuckwit.

> According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
> be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
> This excludes non-Christians from political input.

BULLSHIT.

> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
> Commonwealth’.

Just because that fuckwit god botherer spewed that mindless
shit says nothing useful about what the constitution actually
says in Sect 116 which in fact says the exact opposite of that,
you stupid god botherer.

We gave in fact had a couple of jews as GGs.

>>>>> not Multicultural!
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>

In aus.computers Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Previously, I used to connect to the Internet via an OPTUS Dongle ....
> that was actually made by HUAWEI ..... so I often wondered if all my
> Internet traffic/E-mail/ Newsgroups went via China somehow!! ;-P

This is why I picked a model from a western brand when I last
upgraded the one I use for my home internet. Besides spying on
communications, another risk is that they build in some sort of
kill switch that allows them to disable everyone's devices at once.

But of course the one I use is still made in China even though it's
not designed by a Chinese company, so it's not entirely
trustworthy.

ISPs ought to be able to spot the unexplained data being sent to
China if these devices already call home, if anybody bothers to
look.

--
__ __
#_ < |\| |< _#

On 12 Feb 2023 16:23:41 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev
<not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

>In aus.computers Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Previously, I used to connect to the Internet via an OPTUS Dongle ....
>> that was actually made by HUAWEI ..... so I often wondered if all my
>> Internet traffic/E-mail/ Newsgroups went via China somehow!! ;-P
>
>This is why I picked a model from a western brand when I last
>upgraded the one I use for my home internet. Besides spying on
>communications, another risk is that they build in some sort of
>kill switch that allows them to disable everyone's devices at once.
>
>But of course the one I use is still made in China even though it's
>not designed by a Chinese company, so it's not entirely
>trustworthy.
>
>ISPs ought to be able to spot the unexplained data being sent to
>China if these devices already call home, if anybody bothers to
>look.

Why I like using a VPN but over the last couple of years some websites
have the VPN IP's and block them. Not a big deal to turn them off and
on though.
--
Petzl
Jesus “taught with authority” (Matthew 7:29), and the risen Lord gave
his Apostles a share in his authority when he commissioned them to
make disciples from all the nations by teaching what he had commanded
them (Matthew 28:18–20).

Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:11:59 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:50:38 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 03:42:28 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>>
>>>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>>
>>>> You been taught that?
>>>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>>
>>> Hasnt been like that for a long time now and now
>>> not even half of us are actually stupid enough to
>>> bother with that particular sky fairy.
>
>> Has been Christian since Federation,
>
>But only a minority are that stupid anymore.
>
In China you have state-run media. In Australia, you have a media-run
state." creates or minces up ones cultural beliefs

>> if that Guarantee was not given
>> to the Colonists of the day the Australian Commonwealth would not of
>> been born!
>
>There never was any such guarantee.
>
Still in the first line of Australia's constitution.

>>>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT.
>
>> Read the very first line of it fool.
>
>Read Sect 116, fuckwit.
>
I have.
You are too dumb to understand it,
Only the states have the power to change it not the Fed's
https://www.ausconstitution.org/home/chapter-5-the-states/section-116

>> It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
>> places us under God
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
Fact

>> - the Christian God,
>
>Doesnt even mention any specific god.

The Christian God of Australia's Monarch
https://www.britannica.com/topic/defender-of-the-faith
>
>> whose compound redemptive
>> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
Fact

>> Following the opening words to our
>> Constitution,
>> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
>> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
>
>Doesnt even say which god, fuckwit.
>
The Christian God of Australia's Monarch
https://www.britannica.com/topic/defender-of-the-faith

>> According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
>> be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
>> This excludes non-Christians from political input.
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>> Commonwealth’.
>
>Just because that fuckwit god botherer spewed that mindless
>shit says nothing useful about what the constitution actually
>says in Sect 116 which in fact says the exact opposite of that,
>you stupid god botherer.
>
Only the states have the power to change it not the Fed's
https://www.ausconstitution.org/home/chapter-5-the-states/section-116

>We gave in fact had a couple of jews as GGs.
>
Not constitutionally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_governors_of_Australia

>>>>>> not Multicultural!
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:12:26 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:11:59 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:50:38 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 03:42:28 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>>>
>>>>> You been taught that?
>>>>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>>>
>>>> Hasnt been like that for a long time now and now
>>>> not even half of us are actually stupid enough to
>>>> bother with that particular sky fairy.
>>
>>> Has been Christian since Federation,
>>
>> But only a minority are that stupid anymore.

> In China you have state-run media.

And anyone with even half a clue knows how to get access to world media.

> In Australia, you have a media-run
> state." creates or minces up ones cultural beliefs

Just another of your mindless stupid conspiracy theory.

>>> if that Guarantee was not given
>>> to the Colonists of the day the Australian Commonwealth would not of
>>> been born!

>> There never was any such guarantee.

> Still in the first line of Australia's constitution.

Which says nothing like you stupidly claim.

>>>>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>>
>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>
>>> Read the very first line of it fool.
>>
>> Read Sect 116, fuckwit.

> I have.
> You are too dumb to understand it,

We'll see...

> Only the states have the power to change it not the Fed's
> https://www.ausconstitution.org/home/chapter-5-the-states/section-116

Irrelevant your stupid shit about it.

>>> It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
>>> places us under God

>> BULLSHIT.

> Fact

BULLSHIT.

>>> - the Christian God,

>> Doesnt even mention any specific god.

> The Christian God of Australia's Monarch
> https://www.britannica.com/topic/defender-of-the-faith

The constitution doesnt even mention any specific god.

>>> whose compound redemptive
>>> Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

>> BULLSHIT.

> Fact

BULLSHIT.

>>> Following the opening words to our
>>> Constitution,
>>> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
>>> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

>> Doesnt even say which god, fuckwit.

> The Christian God of Australia's Monarch
> https://www.britannica.com/topic/defender-of-the-faith

The constitution doesnt even mention any specific god.

>>> According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
>>> be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible..
>>> This excludes non-Christians from political input.

>> BULLSHIT.

>>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>>> Commonwealth’.

>> Just because that fuckwit god botherer spewed that mindless
>> shit says nothing useful about what the constitution actually
>> says in Sect 116 which in fact says the exact opposite of that,
>> you stupid god botherer.

> Only the states have the power to change it not the Fed's
> https://www.ausconstitution.org/home/chapter-5-the-states/section-116

Irrelevant your stupid shit about it.

>> We gave in fact had a couple of jews as GGs.

> Not constitutionally

Wrong, as always.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_governors_of_Australia

>>>>>>> not Multicultural!
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence_scandal>

Ördög wrote on 12/2/23 7:52 am:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>
> /Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
> malicious wankers residing in my killfile/
>
>> Previously, I used to connect to the Internet via an OPTUS Dongle ....
>> that was actually made by HUAWEI ..... so I often wondered if all my
>> Internet traffic/E-mail/ Newsgroups went via China somehow!! ;-P
>
> Just imagine what they could do with all that top secret info .... if
> they managed to win World War 3, that would be because all that amazing
> intel they'd managed to gather from your dongle.
>
> It will be all your fault! :-P
>
Ahhhh! No!! I'm soooo sorry, World!!
--
Daniel

Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:02:43 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:17 am:
>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
>>> wrote:
>>>> keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>> BRILLIANT! Who singed off on that??
>>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It
>>>>> shouldn't be beyond the government's ability to see whether they
>>>>> are sending information and where. At least I hope that it isn't
>>>>> beyond them because that would be a bigger problem than the
>>>>> cameras themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>>>
>>>> only if it has a camera
>>>
>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>
>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>
> You been taught that?
> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.

A Christian Culture!! Really??

> Declared as such by Australia's constitution

That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
--
Daniel

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
> >>
> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
> >>
> > You been taught that?
> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.

> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>
Yes Really

> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>
> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>
Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
Commonwealth’.
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Christian Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:07:42 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:02:43 +1100, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 7:17 am:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:56:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.now>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/02/2023 1:43 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>> BRILLIANT! Who singed off on that??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anybody actually checked whether they are actually doing
>>>>>> anything nefarious or is it just a knee-jerk reaction. It
>>>>>> shouldn't be beyond the government's ability to see whether they
>>>>>> are sending information and where. At least I hope that it isn't
>>>>>> beyond them because that would be a bigger problem than the
>>>>>> cameras themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I worry about my Sony TV, that was made in China?
>>>>>
>>>>> only if it has a camera
>>>>
>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>
>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>
>> You been taught that?
>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>
> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>
>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>
> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,

John Downer was in fact born here.

> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives,

Fuckem.

> nor those of the Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:40:46 +1100, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>> >>
>> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>> >>
>> > You been taught that?
>> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one..
>
>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>
> Yes Really
>
>> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>
>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!

> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists

> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
> Commonwealth’.

Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...

The reality is that section 116 says the exact opposite.

> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ

Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:40:46 +1100, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>>> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>> >>
>>> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>> >>
>>> > You been taught that?
>>> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>
>>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>>
>> Yes Really
>>
>>> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>
>>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
>>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>
>> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists
>
>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>> Commonwealth’.
>
>Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>
>The reality is that section 116 says the exact opposite.
>
Learn to and comprehend what S116 says and you will find you are
wrong!

>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
>
>Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>
Again reality is!
For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
right shithole.
--
Petzl
when man stops believing in God
it’s not that he believes in nothing;
it’s that they’ll believe in anything.

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 03:50:44 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:40:46 +1100, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>>>> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>> >>
>>>> > You been taught that?
>>>> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>>
>>>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>>>
>>> Yes Really
>>>
>>>> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>>
>>>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
>>>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>>>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>>
>>> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists
>>
>>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>>> Commonwealth’.
>>
>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>>
>> The reality is that section 116 says the exact opposite.

> Learn to and comprehend what S116 says

Done that decades ago thanks.

> and you will find you are
> wrong!

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

>>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
>>
>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...

> Again reality is!

You wouldn't know what reality was if it bit
you on your stupid god botherer lard arse.

> For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
> right shithole.

Have fun explaining why Japan isnt.

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 07:03:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 03:50:44 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:40:46 +1100, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>>>>> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > You been taught that?
>>>>> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>>>>
>>>>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>>>>
>>>> Yes Really
>>>>
>>>>> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>>>
>>>>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
>>>>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>>>>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>>>
>>>> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists
>>>
>>>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>>>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>>>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>>>> Commonwealth’.
>>>
>>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>>>
>>> The reality is that section 116 says the exact opposite.
>
>> Learn to and comprehend what S116 says
>
>Done that decades ago thanks.
>
>> and you will find you are
>> wrong!
>
>You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>>>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>>>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
>>>
>>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>
>> Again reality is!
>
>You wouldn't know what reality was if it bit
>you on your stupid god botherer lard arse.
>
>> For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
>> right shithole.
>
>Have fun explaining why Japan isnt.

Japan is a Buddhist culture have you been there?
I have.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Buddhism>
Australia has a Christian culture enforced by it's Christian
constitution and law!
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_culture>
! --
Petzl
'we are a Christian nation' with 'Christian values' to which newcomers
should conform, while enjoying freedom for their own beliefs.
Pauline Hanson.

If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with
Christian norms. The things we do, the way our political parties
behave, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian
ideals.
Paul Keating

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:58:32 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 07:03:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 03:50:44 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:40:46 +1100, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>>>>>> >>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>>> >>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> > You been taught that?
>>>>>> > I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Really
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie
>>>>>> Christians,
>>>>>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>>>>>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>>>>
>>>>> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists
>>>>
>>>>> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
>>>>> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
>>>>> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
>>>>> Commonwealth’.
>>>>
>>>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>>>>
>>>> The reality is that section 116 says the exact opposite.
>>
>>> Learn to and comprehend what S116 says
>>
>> Done that decades ago thanks.
>>
>>> and you will find you are
>>> wrong!
>>
>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>>>>> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
>>>>> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
>>>>
>>>> Just because some stupid god botherer claims something...
>>
>>> Again reality is!
>>
>> You wouldn't know what reality was if it bit
>> you on your stupid god botherer lard arse.
>>
>>> For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
>>> right shithole.

And Europe was a right shithole for countless centurys
with endemic religious wars between you stupid god
botherers, countless civil wars, and you stupid god
botherers quite literally burning each other at the stake
over religious differences, and with your utter obscenity
of a church allowing your priests to rape children.

THAT's a right shithole.

>> Have fun explaining why Japan isnt.

> Japan is a Buddhist culture

BULLSHIT.

> have you been there?
> I have.

But are too stupid to have even worked out that
it is nothing even remotely like a right shithole.

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Buddhism>

> Australia has a Christian culture

BULLSHIT.

> enforced by it's Christian constitution

The constitution enforces nothing and isnt a christian constitution.

> and law!
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_culture>

Pity about countless centurys with endemic religious
wars between you stupid god botherers, countless
civil wars, and you stupid god botherers quite literally
burning each other at the stake over religious differences,
and with your utter obscenity of a church allowing your
priests to rape children.