petzl wrote on 12/2/23 9:40 pm:
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:07:40 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 11/2/23 9:48 pm:
>>>>> More worried about non-Christian politicians and Lawyers/Judges!
>>>>> Under the name of Multiculturalism, Australians a multiracial
>>>>
>>>> There IS ONLY one Race, Petzl!! THE HUMAN RACE!!
>>>>
>>> You been taught that?
>>> I were talking about culture, Australian culture is a Christian one.
>
>> A Christian Culture!! Really??
>>
> Yes Really
>
>>> Declared as such by Australia's constitution
>>
>> That "Australian Constitution" that was written by Pommie Christians,
>> regardless of the desires of the countries Natives, nor those of the
>> Asiatic settlers nor the European settlers!!
>>
> Rubbish was written by Christian Australian Colonists

Ah!! Well, at least you admit it is/was rubbish, Petzl. Well done.

> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
> Commonwealth’.
> Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
> compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ >
--
Daniel

Petzl wrote on 13/2/23 3:50 am:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

<Snip>

> Again reality is!
> For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
> right shithole.
>
Hey, Petzl, I recall that you claim to be part aboriginal!

So YOUR people would have made Australia a 'right shithole', would they,
Petzl??

Oh!! And I notice you seemed to have made your previous post at 3:50a.m.
AEDT. Have you been out all night, tieing one on, Petzl??
--
Daniel

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:20:31 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
> Petzl wrote on 13/2/23 3:50 am:
> > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:55:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> > <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <Snip>
> > Again reality is!
> > For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
> > right shithole.
> >
> Hey, Petzl, I recall that you claim to be part aboriginal!
>
> So YOUR people would have made Australia a 'right shithole', would they,
> Petzl??
>
> Oh!! And I notice you seemed to have made your previous post at 3:50a.m.
> AEDT. Have you been out all night, tying one on, Petzl??

4:50 am now, when I have a crap don't think of you, hang around for 30 minutes
have a cup of lemon tea.

Yes I have indigenous Ancestry in Australia going back 40,000 years I'm told,
European Ancestry going back to 1788.
Aboriginals when the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul arrived were small gatherings of
hunter gatherers, not changing in those years, no full blood Aboriginal left today!

The real tragedy is the leftie fakenews has gone into overdrive!
Creating a "victim" overdrive, not for the lack of government
spending, not through a lack of land rights, not through special
grants and discrimination programs to give them jobs.
The real tragedy is the fakenews is in overdrive to convince them they
are victims and the system owes them, entitles them to something.

That is equal to permanent poverty.

Bottom line is government can provide opportunities, Unless people
realize they need to study hard at school to get qualifications, work
hard get a good job and leave something better for your children, or
your buggered for life.
--
Petzl
ASPECTS & ASSUMPTIONS OF
WHITE CULTURE IN AUSTRALIA
TALKING ABOUT RACE
White dominant culture, or whiteness, refers to the ways white people
and their traditions,acticurles and ways of life have been normalized
overtime and are now considered standard pradices in Australia. And
since White people still hold most of the institutional power in
Australia,we have all internalised some aspects of white culture —
including people of colour.

Rugged Individualism
• The individual is the primary unit • Self-reliance
• Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded
• Individuals assumed to be in control of their environment, "You get
what you deserve"

Family Structure
• The nuclear family, father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social
unit
• Husband is breadwinner and head of household
• Wife is homemaker and subordinate to the husband
• Children should have own rooms, be independent

Emphasis on Scientific Method
• Objective, rational linear thinking
• Cause and effect relationshipsa
• Quantitative emphasis

History
• Based on Northern European immigrants'experience in the United
States
• Heavy focus on the British Empire
• The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition

Protestant Work Ethic
• Hard work is the key to success
• Work before play
• "If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough"

Religion
• Christianity is the norm
• Anything other than ludeo—Christian tradition is foreign
• No tolerance for deviation from single god oncept

Status, Power & Authority
• Wealth = worth
• Your job is who you are
• Respect authority
• Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property

Future Orientation
• Plan for future
• Delayed gratification
• Progress is always best
• "Tomorrow will be better"
Time
• Follow rigid time schedules
• Time viewed as a commodity

Aesthetics
• Based on European culture • Steak and potatoes; "bland is best"
• Woman's beauty based on blonde, thin —"Barbie"
• Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect

Holidays
• Based on Christian religions
• Based on white history & male leaders

Justice
• Based on English common law
• Protect property & entitlement
• Intent counts

Competition
• Be #1
• Win at all costs
• Winner/loser dichotomy
• Action Orientation
• Master and control nature
• Must always "do something" about a situation
• Aggressiveness and Extroversion
• Decision-Making
• Majority rules

Communication
• "The King's English" rules
• Written tradition
• Avoid conflict, intimacy
• Don't show emotion
• Don't discuss personal life
• Be polite

Petz returns with a brad new edition of his "Village Idiot Show".

> Daniel65
>> Petz
>>> Again reality is!
>
Your concept of reality, Petz dear, starts with the purchase of yet
another Goon-bag and ends with you snoring away under your cozy
park-bench accommodation somewhere near the bottle shop in Shitboxville.
>
>>> For without the Christian Anglo-Celtic soul Australia would be a down
>>> right shithole.
>
BULLSHIT!
>
>> Hey, Petzl, I recall that you claim to be part aboriginal!
>
Over the years Petz has claimed many many many things that were much
less real that stinky farts into the gale-force wind! Thanks to his
alcohol and old age ruined memory he has forgotten many of these blatant
lies.
Claiming some sort of vague aboriginality sometimes suited his
propaganda arguments, but in reality he is just a total fake:
A fake Aboriginal, a fake Xtian and most likely a fake human.
>
>> So YOUR people would have made Australia a 'right shithole', would they,
>> Petzl??
>
People of his political ilk certainly have tried hard to achieve that
outcome. Luckily so far they failed time and time again. The only thing
going for them still is their mindless dedication to this nasty task
despite all those set past backs.
>
>> Oh!! And I notice you seemed to have made your previous post at 3:50a.m.
>> AEDT. Have you been out all night, tying one on, Petzl??
>
He must be playing with his VPN and clock setting on his computer again.
You know, just in case ASIO, Bill Gates, the deep state with Jews lead
by George Soros as well myriads of Chinese communist spies are trying to
monitor his important top secret activities! :-P
>
/snip/
>
> Yes I have indigenous Ancestry in Australia going back 40,000 years I'm told,
> European Ancestry going back to 1788.
>
YAWN! So you are back to this lie again! Isn't getting so booooooring?>
> The real tragedy is the leftie fakenews has gone into overdrive!
>
Translation:

"leftie fake news" = facts and reality Petz can't stand
>
/snip bucket loads of crap/
>
> That is equal to permanent poverty.
>
Permanent poverty of indigenous populations around the whole world is a
direct consequence of raging colonialist exploration. imperialism and
all extreme forms of unbridled capitalism.
>
> Bottom line is government can provide opportunities,
>
Better said, it could, if it was not prevented to do so by racist and
greed driven hard right politics and associated corrupt and sociopathic
politicians.
>
> Unless people realise ...
>
/snip/

....that this kind of extreme and racist capitalism sucks big time and
kick these creeps out of power nothing will ever change for the better.

NOTE:
Your idiot alt-right/Xtian fundy mostly copy and paste hate propaganda
sig was flushed as always without reading!

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:21:54 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
snip commie crap

Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism, started around 4/5
centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity. Sympathy for
the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
of every human being. The idea was to carry it all on, but without
God,and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
some cruelties. I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
war. humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
itself to a higher level. It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
cause of all evil. Mankind should at least unite and form a single
world government. that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small. Then within
a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think. The call to the
First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
yourselves. However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself. To restrict oneself with
foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
more, so that we all live in peace - all this proved beyond the power
of humanism. That was where it failed.
From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
globalism.If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
must do it because your production has low efficiency,
--
Petzl
The real tragedy is the leftie fakenews has gone into overdrive!
Creating a "victim" overdrive, not for the lack of government
spending, not through a lack of land rights, not through special
grants and discrimination programs to give them jobs.
The real tragedy is the fakenews is in overdrive to convince them they
are victims and the system owes them, entitles them to something.

That is equal to permanent poverty.

Bottom line is government can provide opportunities, Unless people
realize they need to study hard at school to get qualifications, work
hard get a good job and leave something better for your children, or
your buggered for life.

petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Ördög wrote

> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,

Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world countrys.

> started around 4/5
> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.

More mindless bullshit.

> Sympathy for
> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
> of every human being.

That's not socialism, stupid.

> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
> God,

More mindless bullshit with socialism.

> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
> some cruelties.

Utterly mangled all over again.

> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
> war.

Nothing to do with socialism.

> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
> itself to a higher level.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
> cause of all evil.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
> world government.

Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.

> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.

Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Then within
> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> The call to the
> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
> yourselves.

The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.

> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.

More mindless bullshit.

> To restrict oneself with
> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
> more, so that we all live in peace

How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.

> - all this proved beyond the power
> of humanism. That was where it failed.

It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.

> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
> globalism.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
> must do it because your production has low efficiency,

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Ördög wrote
>
>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>
>Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world countrys.
>
>> started around 4/5
>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>
>More mindless bullshit.
>
>> Sympathy for
>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
>> of every human being.
>
>That's not socialism, stupid.
>
>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>> God,
>
>More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>
>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>> some cruelties.
>
>Utterly mangled all over again.
>
>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
>> war.
>
>Nothing to do with socialism.
>
>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>> itself to a higher level.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
>> cause of all evil.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>> world government.
>
>Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>
>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>
>Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
>> Then within
>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>> The call to the
>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>> yourselves.
>
>The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>
>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>
>More mindless bullshit.
>
>> To restrict oneself with
>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>> more, so that we all live in peace
>
>How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>
>> - all this proved beyond the power
>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>
>It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>
>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>> globalism.
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>
>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
accurate description from one who survived Communism
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Ördög wrote
>>
>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>
>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>> countrys.
>>
>>> started around 4/5
>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> Sympathy for
>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
>>> of every human being.
>>
>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>
>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>> God,
>>
>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>
>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>> some cruelties.
>>
>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>
>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
>>> war.
>>
>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>
>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>> itself to a higher level.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
>>> cause of all evil.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>> world government.
>>
>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>
>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>
>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Then within
>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>>> The call to the
>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>> yourselves.
>>
>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>
>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> To restrict oneself with
>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>
>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>
>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>
>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>
>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>> globalism.
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>
>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>
> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
> accurate description from one who survived Communism

But not socialism, stupid.

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>
>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>
>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>> countrys.
>>>
>>>> started around 4/5
>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Sympathy for
>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
>>>> of every human being.
>>>
>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>
>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>> God,
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>
>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>>> some cruelties.
>>>
>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>
>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
>>>> war.
>>>
>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>
>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>
>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>
>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>
>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>
>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>> world government.
>>>
>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>
>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>
>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> Then within
>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>
>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>
>>>> The call to the
>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>>> yourselves.
>>>
>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>
>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>
>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>
>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>
>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>
>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>
>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>> globalism.
>>>
>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>
>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>
>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>
>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>
>But not socialism, stupid.
>
No difference, stupid
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

Petz, the village idiot can't help but binge on plagiarized whataboutist
alt-right fantasy copy and paste

/snip/

> ....

Thanks for indirectly confirming your fake Aboriginal, fake Xtian and
fake human village idiot status beyond any reasonable doubt.

So yet again you have dug up some brain dead alt-right crap from the
depth of the cyber sewers hoping to force me to try to debunk the deluge
of nonsense assertions.

No luck this time Petz!
Dealing with you mental short circuits is becoming more and more a very
boring and tedious exercise instead of the cheap recreational
entertainment years ago when your spewed nonsense was still a moderately
amusing.

You keep regurgitating the very same ...very same retarded alt-right and
Xtian fundy garbage, instead of trying to respond to the topic of
discussion stated in the subject line.

~~~~

So let us return to the Chinese spy camera issue...blown out of all
rational proportions by rightard media outlets and US brown nosing
political circles. These idiots are hell bent on making World War 3
against China and Russia a reality no matter how devastating for all
living on this planet such war would be.

That is the real issue here and not your hate propaganda phantasms and
delusions.

NOTE:
Your idiot alt-right/Xtian fundy mostly copy and paste hate propaganda
sig was flushed as always without reading!

--
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 7:59:05 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
snip Ordog the commie wankers rubbish
more reality of the death and destruction of Communist infestation!
This Communist unlike Ordog went to a communist Utopia
wrote a book about reality unlike Ordog the arm chair communist

<https://www.rbth.com/history/333201-japanese-communist-katsuno-gulag>
https://tinyurl.com/2lx9uszo
A belief in the socialist utopia led Kinmasa Katsuno (1901-1983) first to Paris,
then to Moscow, and subsequently to Siberia as a prisoner stripped of all his civil rights.
Unlike tens of thousands of Gulag inmates, Katsuno survived and was one of the first
to tell the world about the horrors of the repressive Stalinist machine.
--
Petzl
Turns out Ordog the armchair Communist wants to be on a yacht in a Gucci tracksuit,
holding a vodka in one hand and a underage prostitute in the other.
Not standing in line all day for a potato like his comrades do!

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:39:59 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>>> countrys.
>>>>
>>>>> started around 4/5
>>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>>
>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> Sympathy for
>>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
>>>>> of every human being.
>>>>
>>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>>> God,
>>>>
>>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>>
>>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>>>> some cruelties.
>>>>
>>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>>
>>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
>>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
>>>>> war.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>>
>>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>>
>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>
>>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
>>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>>
>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>
>>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>>> world government.
>>>>
>>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>>
>>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>>
>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Then within
>>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
>>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>>
>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>
>>>>> The call to the
>>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>
>>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>>
>>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
>>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>>
>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>>
>>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>>
>>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>>
>>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>>
>>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>>> globalism.
>>>>
>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>
>>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>>
>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>
>>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>>
>> But not socialism, stupid.
>>
> No difference, stupid

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
saying something.

Socialism in the modern first world is nothing even remotely
like communism in china, the USSR etc etc etc.

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:28:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:39:59 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>>>> countrys.
>>>>>
>>>>>> started around 4/5
>>>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>>>
>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sympathy for
>>>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will
>>>>>> of every human being.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>>>> God,
>>>>>
>>>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>>>>> some cruelties.
>>>>>
>>>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
>>>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
>>>>>> war.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>>>
>>>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is the
>>>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>>>> world government.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then within
>>>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth is
>>>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The call to the
>>>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and states.
>>>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>>>
>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>>>
>>>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>>>
>>>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>>>> globalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>
>>>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>>>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>>>
>>> But not socialism, stupid.
>>>
>> No difference, stupid
>
>Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
>saying something.
>
>Socialism in the modern first world is nothing even remotely
>like communism in china, the USSR etc etc etc.
>
All socialists are Communists claiming to be a "nicer version", most
people except you know this with a 100% certainty
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:47:50 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:28:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:39:59 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>>>>> countrys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> started around 4/5
>>>>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sympathy for
>>>>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> of every human being.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>>>>> God,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>>>>>> some cruelties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty
>>>>>>> occurred
>>>>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second
>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>>>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>>>>> world government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then within
>>>>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The call to the
>>>>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and
>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>>>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>>>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>>>>> globalism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys..
>>>>>
>>>>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>>>>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>>>>
>>>> But not socialism, stupid.
>>>>
>>> No difference, stupid
>>
>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
>> saying something.
>>
>> Socialism in the modern first world is nothing even remotely
>> like communism in china, the USSR etc etc etc.
>>
> All socialists are Communists claiming to be a "nicer version",

More mindless bullshit.

> most
> people except you know this with a 100% certainty

More mindless bullshit.

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 12:07:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:47:50 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:28:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:39:59 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>>>>>> countrys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> started around 4/5
>>>>>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sympathy for
>>>>>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> of every human being.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>>>>>> God,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>>>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
>>>>>>>> some cruelties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>>>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty
>>>>>>>> occurred
>>>>>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second
>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>>>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>>>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
>>>>>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>>>>>> world government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>>>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then within
>>>>>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The call to the
>>>>>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much for
>>>>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>>>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and
>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>>>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing ever
>>>>>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>>>>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>>>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>>>>>> globalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>>>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>>>>>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>>>>>
>>>>> But not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>> No difference, stupid
>>>
>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
>>> saying something.
>>>
>>> Socialism in the modern first world is nothing even remotely
>>> like communism in china, the USSR etc etc etc.
>>>
>> All socialists are Communists claiming to be a "nicer version",
>
>More mindless bullshit.
>
You think Whitlam was socialist?

>> most
>> people except you know this with a 100% certainty
>
>More mindless bullshit.

100% certain Whitlam was communist.
--
Petzl
<https://consortiumnews.com/2022/11/14/the-queens-coup/>

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:51:56 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 12:07:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:47:50 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:28:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:39:59 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:52:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 21:19:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:39:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Ördög wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit with socialism in western europe and modern first world
>>>>>>>> countrys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> started around 4/5
>>>>>>>>> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sympathy for
>>>>>>>>> the oppressed and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> of every human being.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
>>>>>>>>> God,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit with socialism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
>>>>>>>>> throughout the past centuries, and through its influence
>>>>>>>>> alleviated
>>>>>>>>> some cruelties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
>>>>>>>>> ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty
>>>>>>>>> occurred
>>>>>>>>> in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second
>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with socialism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevate
>>>>>>>>> itself to a higher level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
>>>>>>>>> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise,
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> trouble is we live as separate nations,se prate states - that is
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> cause of all evil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mankind should at least unite and form a single
>>>>>>>>> world government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fuck that. Even the EU doesnt really work very well at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that will be wise, caring, aware of the needs of
>>>>>>>>> every remote corner on earth, every nation, however small.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then within
>>>>>>>>> a matter of decades an alarm bell started to ring, that our earth
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> much smaller that we think, much poorer than we think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The call to the
>>>>>>>>> First world, is: curb your consumption, don't demand that much
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The call is for you to go and fuck yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However,self-restraint is perhaps the last thing that
>>>>>>>>> comes easily to man, political parties, groups of people and
>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>> Nothing is harder than to restrict oneself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To restrict oneself with
>>>>>>>>> foresight - I'd better stop and restrain myself from grabbing
>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>> more, so that we all live in peace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How odd that you stupid god botherers have burnt each
>>>>>>>> other at the stake over the most trivial doctrinal issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - all this proved beyond the power
>>>>>>>>> of humanism. That was where it failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It hasnt failed, most obviously in western europe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From a globalism of promise it was transformed into a mandatory
>>>>>>>>> globalism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If production must be stopped or curbed, you who are behind
>>>>>>>>> must do it because your production has low efficiency,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was a English translation from "A Solzhenitsyn", not me but a
>>>>>>> accurate description from one who survived Communism
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not socialism, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No difference, stupid
>>>>
>>>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
>>>> saying something.
>>>>
>>>> Socialism in the modern first world is nothing even remotely
>>>> like communism in china, the USSR etc etc etc.
>>>>
>>> All socialists are Communists claiming to be a "nicer version",
>>
>> More mindless bullshit.

> You think Whitlam was socialist?

ALL modern countrys have a mix of socialism and capitalism,
even HongKong before it was handed back to China, North
Korea, Vietnam, Australia, the USA, western europe etc.

In our case still Australia Post, Medicare, govt schools,
most roads etc etc etc. In the case of the USA, the US
Corps of Engineers, the USPS, govt schools, most roads,
the cops, the legal system etc etc etc.

In the case of Whitless, most obviously no uni fees,
Medicare etc were added.

>>> most
>>> people except you know this with a 100% certainty
>>
>> More mindless bullshit.
>
> 100% certain Whitlam was communist.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
have always been completely off with the fucking fairys.

Petz, with his ongoing, raging and fully whataboutist village idiocy rampage
> Ördög wrote:
> snip Ordog the commie wankers rubbish

So the present I intend concentrate on and discuss is just "wanker rubbish"?

/rest of village idiocy removed/

Easy to restore what was important in my previous post which you have
completely ignored:

Here:
~~~~
So let us return to the Chinese spy camera issue...blown out of all
rational proportions by rightard media outlets and US brown nosing
political circles. These idiots are hell bent on making World War 3
against China and Russia a reality no matter how devastating for all
living on this planet such war would be.
That is the real issue here and not your hate propaganda phantasms and
delusions.
~~~~

Sadly instead of responding to current political events you keep digging
up and up the past. Don't you understand what a *newsgroup* is in Usenet?
It is all about discussing *current affairs*! Just ask you nursie to
confirm it if you don't believe me.

Rest assured, Stalin is definitely dead, and has been so for a long-long
time. And he ain't likely to change his current status any time soon!

You keep responding to all of my posts based on where you think I stand
politically and hardly ever on the actual content of my posts. Who do
you think this would reflect on negatively, you or me? LOL!

In the mean time you still remain quite ignorant about contemporary
leftist political ideologies; all of them, not just communism. But
instead of trying get better informed before spewing your hate tirade
nonsense based on some plagiarised political anecdotes written some axe
grinding person still reliving the ugly past in his head you refuse to
face the present and its serious problems

Obviously are you digging up stuff from the cyber sewers deposited there
by septic alt-right heroes, the like David Duke (ex-KKK grand wizard
turned pure neo-Nazi) or Denis Prager (spewing Xtian fundy crap under
the trade mark of *Prager U*) and their fanatical ilk.

That is not helping anyone who is actually concerned about the present
and the future of this planet.

NOTE:
Your idiot alt-right/Xtian fundy mostly copy and paste hate propaganda
sig was flushed as always without reading!

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 8:42:32 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
snip Ordog commie reference

Petz, the village idiocy insisting newsgroup menace:

> Ördög
> snip Ordog commie reference

There was no "commie reference" anywhere in my reply to you.
Stop responding to the voices in your GoonBag fumes filled head!

So back to what is actually important in this thread (and what you so
desperately trying to avoid responding to).

An easy to restore here:
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*So let us return to the Chinese spy camera issue...blown out of all
rational proportions by rightard media outlets and US brown nosing
political circles. These idiots are hell bent on making World War 3
against China and Russia a reality no matter how devastating for all
living on this planet such war would be.
That is the real issue here and not your hate propaganda phantasms and
delusions.*
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On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 7:49:50 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
snip Ordog commie reference
no link to what I are alleged to of said just your mindless bullshit
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This change of direction affected his policies towards both Israel and the campaign for Soviet Jewry for freedom of migration. Chanan Reich has discussed the Whitlam government's change of policy direction viz-a-viz Israel. However, it is also necessary to examine his policies in relation to Soviet Jewry, and issues of lobby groups in Australia. This is seen most clearly in his constant criticism of the "Jewish lobby" and his strong support for the "Arab lobby," highlighted both in his discussions with Soviet representatives before his visit to the Soviet Union (the first by an Australian Prime Minister) and in his private correspondence with Lebanese born Australian businessman,

Petz, and his high octane Goon-Bag fumes

> Ördög
> snip Ordog commie reference

What commie reference? I've posted nothing of the sort!

> no link to what I are alleged to of said just your mindless bullshit

But...but...but...
I have cited above every single one of your posted words, and deleted
nothing. See? Thus no reference needed!

:-P :-P :-P

NOTE:
Your idiot alt-right/Xtian fundy hate propaganda sig was flushed as
always without reading!

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