On 21/08/2023 14:40, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> Tone wrote:
>
>> In slow and normal speeds it won't fly into any obstruction.
>
> Beware, it can't "see" obstructions in all directions (e.g. the sides)

I don't intend to fly sideways.

Tone

Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 14:40, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> > Tone wrote:
> >
> >> In slow and normal speeds it won't fly into any obstruction.
> >
> > Beware, it can't "see" obstructions in all directions (e.g. the sides)
>
> I don't intend to fly sideways.

# Straighten up and fly right...

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

In article <1qftk1p.1p9is211bgpdu2N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, Sn!pe
<snipeco.2@gmail.com> on Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 15:26:07 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> Not a lawn mower or deck chair but an interesting kite in the form of a
>> sailing boat being modelled by Fenny at a shed moot[1] in Daventry.
>>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/3nux86uv>
>>
>> [1] 27th Aug 2005
>>
>
><https://tinyurl.com/2ylfppfk>
>
>I wondered where those G-Cramps had gone...
>
I need two to make two different matching pairs.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

Richard Robinson wrote:

> Tease'n'Seize said:
>
>> If you don't want to buy a new charger, you could do it with USB-A to
>> USB-C cables and charger(s) you already have.
>
> I don't think all devices have USB C sockets ?

The drone in question does (both for charging the controller and the
drone itself)

On 21-Aug-23 14:36, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> Sn!pe wrote:
>
>> Tim+ wrote:
>>> I blame Apple.  Whilst everyone else was happy with USB A on one end and
>>> getting used to USB C on the other end they started making leads with
>>> USB
>>> C at both ends and chargers with a USB C socket.
>> We*  like 'em.      [preen]
>
> I also likes 'em, got my first USB-C device an eight of years ago, now
> have very little that doesn't use it, it's teh future.
>
> A single USB-4 cable to flatpot supplies 100W of power, 4K and 2K
> monitors, mutleygig ethernot, more USB sockets than you can shake a
> stick at ... total 40Gbps throughput.
>
I have _one_ USB-C device (Kindle Paperwhite).
I also have lots of micro USB stuff, and an iPhone with that lightning
connector.

Oh, and a watch that has its own special porpoise connector - anna
water-flosser with _its_ own special connector and...

Disunforgot the flap-pop charger - that's different as well.

Packing for a few weeks away means a big tangled rat's nest of cables.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 21-Aug-23 18:29, Sn!pe wrote:
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2023 14:40, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>> Tone wrote:
>>>
>>>> In slow and normal speeds it won't fly into any obstruction.
>>>
>>> Beware, it can't "see" obstructions in all directions (e.g. the sides)
>>
>> I don't intend to fly sideways.
>
> # Straighten up and fly right...
>
Showing your age with that...
And mine I suppose, since I recognised it.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 21-Aug-23 14:34, Tone wrote:

> Will report back after first test flight. Seeking WW1 flying helmet and
> goggles. Curse the Red Baron!  Bounder!

You need Biggles goggles (Algy says).

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 21-Aug-23 14:34, Tone wrote:
>
> > Will report back after first test flight. Seeking WW1 flying helmet and
> > goggles. Curse the Red Baron! Bounder!
>
> You need Biggles goggles (Algy says).

From the Biggles shelf:

Biggles Flies Undone
Biggles Pulls It Off
Biggles Clears It Up.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 21/08/2023 14:34, Tone wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 14:00, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>> Tone wrote:
>>
>>> which means I need a Male USB A to Male USB A cable
>>
>> Unlikely, A-to-A should never be required (though they are sold
>> because people think they need them).
>>
>> I think you need a USB-C charger you can get them with multiple
>> outputs e.g.
>>
>> <https://amazon.co.uk/UGREEN-65W/dp/B088CZ8CYG>
>>
>> The GaN type are smaller for a given wattage.
>>
>> also you will need a several of USB-C to USB-C cables, did teh drone
>> come with any?
>>
>> If you don't want to buy a new charger, you could do it with USB-A to
>> USB-C cables and charger(s) you already have.
>>
>>
>
> Yes. Been watching one of the videos. very informative, if very
> Leftpondian. They are USB C sockets on the battery chargers and controller.
>
> Have ordered a couple of male USB A to male C adaptor cables.
>
> It came with a male USB C to male USB C cable. Boodly useless. Unless I
> flash up me MAC lappy, the location of which I haven't sussed yet.
> (Might be in t'caravan.)
>
> But, watching the video and understanding about 10% of it, this is a
> highly sophisticated bit of kit. I'm impressed. In slow and normal
> speeds it won't fly into any obstruction. It will either hover, or fly
> around, according to the setting. And it will safely fly home avoiding
> obstacles at the touch of a button.
>
> In 'Sport' mode it'll go where it's pointed, fast! I guess this is for
> drone racing. I think I'll leave that to the testosterone brigade.
>
> You can preset the max flying height (400ft) and it will follow the
> contour of the land. (What it'll do around our cliffs is going to be
> interesting to watch).
>
> Clever stuff.
>
> Just found out that you can get a pair of goggles that give you the
> impression you are actually in the thing, flying it. Blimee!
>
> Should keep me amused for a bit.
>
> Will report back after first test flight. Seeking WW1 flying helmet and
> goggles. Curse the Red Baron!  Bounder!

<cue old joak> ...and this was WWII and those Fokkers were Messerchmitts

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20230821141858.4007f23ee984d06f1bdaf930@eircom.net:

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:05:25 +0100
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at four charging cables. One for the mobile phone, one for
>> the camera, one for a Seagate remote disk, and one for a remote CD
>> player/burner. They all have a USB A at one end. T'other ends are not
>> interchangebubble. Daft I call it.
>
> Some of those must be quite old - it's been a while since anything
> was made that wasn't either micro-USB or USB-C.
>
> You're best bet is probably a USB-A to USB-C cable or adaptor.
>

I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.

--
Peter
-----

Peter said:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:20230821141858.4007f23ee984d06f1bdaf930@eircom.net:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:05:25 +0100
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at four charging cables. One for the mobile phone, one for
>>> the camera, one for a Seagate remote disk, and one for a remote CD
>>> player/burner. They all have a USB A at one end. T'other ends are not
>>> interchangebubble. Daft I call it.
>>
>> Some of those must be quite old - it's been a while since anything
>> was made that wasn't either micro-USB or USB-C.
>>
>> You're best bet is probably a USB-A to USB-C cable or adaptor.
>>
>
> I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
> the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.

"The nice thing about standards".

Odd, isn't it ? You spend zbarl on the latest new
this'll-sort-everything-out and next thing you know you're being
pressured to give up on it and start again.

I was beginning to get the hang of these 'computer' thingies, and now
people seem to expect me to have one in my pocket ? Don't they realise
how big they are ?

I also have a phone that needs its very own 3pin wallwart.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:20230821141858.4007f23ee984d06f1bdaf930@eircom.net:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:05:25 +0100
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at four charging cables. One for the mobile phone, one for
>>> the camera, one for a Seagate remote disk, and one for a remote CD
>>> player/burner. They all have a USB A at one end. T'other ends are not
>>> interchangebubble. Daft I call it.
>>
>> Some of those must be quite old - it's been a while since anything
>> was made that wasn't either micro-USB or USB-C.
>>
>> You're best bet is probably a USB-A to USB-C cable or adaptor.
>>
>
> I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
> the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.
>

I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first time). I
know it should be only 50% but I must have a bad batch or something…

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:15:44 -0000 (UTC)
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:

> I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
> the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.

That has finally been delivered with USB-C - it'll take many years
for all the older stuff to break.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

On 22/08/2023 11:34, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:15:44 -0000 (UTC)
> Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
>> the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.
>
> That has finally been delivered with USB-C - it'll take many years
> for all the older stuff to break.
>
I'm sure that someone is already working on a faster and more versatile,
less convenient arrangement. I have seen rumours that some makers are
already making USB-C connections that only work one way up, using non
standard pin arrangements,or maybe they are just missing out some cores.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 22/08/2023 11:56, Tim+ wrote:

> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first time). I
> know it should be only 50% but I must have a bad batch or something…

Why do they invariable jbex after the third inversion, though? In
theory, that puts them the same way upas they were on your first try.

I suspect that Murphy geezer.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:25:12 +0100
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Why do they invariable jbex after the third inversion, though?

I gooved that was just me.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:15:44 -0000 (UTC), Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk>
wrote:

>Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
>news:20230821141858.4007f23ee984d06f1bdaf930@eircom.net:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:05:25 +0100
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at four charging cables. One for the mobile phone, one for
>>> the camera, one for a Seagate remote disk, and one for a remote CD
>>> player/burner. They all have a USB A at one end. T'other ends are not
>>> interchangebubble. Daft I call it.
>>
>> Some of those must be quite old - it's been a while since anything
>> was made that wasn't either micro-USB or USB-C.
>>
>> You're best bet is probably a USB-A to USB-C cable or adaptor.
>>
>
>I unforget that when USB first arrived the U stood for Universal: it was
>the one socket that ruled them all - no need for adapters ever again. Pah.

One cord to rule them all, and in the laptop bag snarl them.
John T.

Tim+ wrote:

> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit

Third time's a charm ...

John Williamson wrote:

> Tim+ wrote:
>
>> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first
>> time).
>
> Why do they invariable jbex after the third inversion, though?

threerays.

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:kkjk8pFf9q1U1@mid.individual.net:

> On 22/08/2023 11:56, Tim+ wrote:
>
>> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first
>> time). I know it should be only 50% but I must have a bad batch or
>> something…
>
> Why do they invariable jbex after the third inversion, though? In
> theory, that puts them the same way upas they were on your first try.

They exist in a different space-time to us. That third inversion rotates
them through the fifth dimension.

--
Peter
-----

On 22-Aug-23 11:56, Tim+ wrote:

> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first time). I
> know it should be only 50% but I must have a bad batch or something…

Disturbingly, I have a few which _will_ (sort of) fit on that first try
- with just a tiny bit more effort than ought to be needed.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 22/08/2023 12:25, John Williamson wrote:
> On 22/08/2023 11:56, Tim+ wrote:
>
>> I hate the fact that 80% of the USB A plugs just don’t fit (first
>> time). I
>> know it should be only 50% but I must have a bad batch or something…
>
> Why do they invariable jbex after the third inversion, though? In
> theory, that puts them the same way upas they were on your first try.
>
> I suspect that Murphy geezer.

I don't. Murphy was an aeronautical indian ear, and he *real* Murphy's
lawstates that 'if a part can be fitted the wrong way round, sooner or
later it *will* be fitted the wrong way round. Prompted by an engine
part which had the same connections both ends - but had to be connected
the bright way round or the engine would fail...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 24/08/2023 11:09, RustyHinge wrote:
> he *real* Murphy's lawstates that 'if a part can be fitted the wrong way
> round, sooner or later it *will* be fitted the wrong way round. Prompted
> by an engine part which had the same connections both ends - but had to
> be connected the bright way round or the engine would fail...

Also Central Heating pumps. Often when a new system didn't work, I would
be called out to sort it. Usually it was because the CH pump was the
wrong way round. Water would still circulate, but only just.

Tone

Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

> You are not allowed to fly over crowds anywhere, nor sporting events.
>
Under 250g the rulz are relaxed.

--
braind

On 28/08/2023 00:59, me9 wrote:
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> You are not allowed to fly over crowds anywhere, nor sporting events.
>>
> Under 250g the rulz are relaxed.
>

Except the above.

Tone