On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>
>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>
>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>
>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>
> Your links? where would they be?
>
>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>
> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
> nothing for your credibility.

Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?

alvey

On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 18:13:42 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 19/08/2023 5:02 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>
>> Your links? where would they be?
>
> Did he actually post any?
>
> You were the only one replying to him as far as I can tell,

hahahahaha

> and you usually quote people verbatim.

Umm, how do you know that Fraudster? [Note: That's a rhetorical question,
***EVERYBODY*** knows that you read every post]

> I didn't see any links from him quoted by
> you, so you either deliberately snipped them or he never posted any to
> begin with.
>
> I know where my money would be,

In a joint account with the houses' bread-winner? Down the back of the
lounge? In a small tin stuffed into a snake burrow?

> but he's free to cite the message he
> reckons he posted these mythical links in. Don't hold your breath
> waiting though, as he's getting as bad as his mental mate Clasener when
> it comes to dealing with reality.

Surreal.

alvey

On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>
>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>
>> Your links? where would they be?
>>
>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>
>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>> nothing for your credibility.
>
> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?

Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.

On 19/08/2023 6:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/8/2023 5:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 18/08/2023 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 18/8/2023 1:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>  > On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>  >> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>  >>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>> remaining
>>>>  >>>> one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in Russia.
>>>>  >>>>
>>>>  >>>>
>>>>  >>>
>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>>
>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>>
>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>> etc etc
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>  >> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>  >> dickhead's rants.
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>  >>
>>>>  > You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>  > yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>> apart from
>>>>  > Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely is a
>>>>  > Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>> Volvos are
>>>>  > now manufactured in China
>>>> only the S90.
>>>>
>>>> Location            Model(s)
>>>> South Carolina, USA    S60, XC90 (next gen model)
>>>> Torslanda, Sweden    XC60, XC90, V90 Cross Country
>>>> Ghent, Belgium            XC40, V60 Cross Country, C40
>>>> Daqing, China            S90
>>>>
>>>> Note this
>>>>
>>>> https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/285269/volvo-cars-to-take-full-ownership-of-its-chinese-manufacturing-and-sales-operations
>>>>
>>>> IE. the Chinese operation is Volvo's not Geely's. Presumably then
>>>> Volvo have control of where the output of the Chinese factory goes.
>>>>
>>> The *legit* output, yes. The rest, not so much.
>>> Note well, no foreign company has full ownership or control over any
>>> manufacturing entity in China. Every company has to have CCP members
>>> on their board to oversee operations. Currently obtaining even
>>> general business info can be construed as *spying*, according to new
>>> Chinese laws, and that has accelerated the flow of foreign investment
>>> *out of China*. So, Volvo may *think* they have control of where
>>> their output goes, the reality is somewhat different.
>>>
>>>>  > so will be available in Russia though not,
>>>>  > obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network. They went
>>>> back to
>>>>  > Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>
>>>> Any evidence of that would be welcome.
>>>
>>> Have a look on Youtube. That was info I saw last year. I've been
>>> keeping tabs on Russia and China through various channels.
>>
>> I suppose that YouTube is a more authoritative source of information
>> than Tik Tok, but by how much is open to question.
>
> Depends on what news sources you listen to or watch. Quite a few
> authoritative news sources now have a presence on Youtube. Unfortunately
> so do the Russian and Chinese propaganda sources (State Media) - like
> the Global Times - not too hard to pick these out though.
>>
>>> But China are selling lots of cars into the Soviet space.
>>>
>>> https://www.drive.com.au/news/chinese-car-sales-in-russia-skyrocket-2023/
>>
>> Yes, it is indisputable that the sales of Chinese cars have increased
>> since the western manufacturers have pulled out, but what is the
>> relevance to Volvo?
>
> Volvos are ending up in Russia under grey (black?) market schemes.

Quite possibly, but how does that relate to the assertion that Volvo is
still selling cars there? The goalposts in this discussion seem to have
shifted somewhat.

> You
> know, skulduggery. Even though the *official* dealership network is out
> of the country doesn't mean you can't buy a new Volvo

Even if that is true, and you've provided no evidence that it is, it
does not mean that Volvo is selling its cars there which was clocky's
original assertion. Absolutely no evidence has been provided to support
that assertion.

If somebody is buying Volvos and smuggling them into Russia at a profit
that's nothing to do with the company, and would probably also apply to
any desirable car on the market. There are people everywhere willing to
supply whatever you want no matter how illegal - at a price.

> it's just going
> to cost you a lot more. Parts sourcing, from what I read, is rather
> fraught as well.
>>
>>> https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1294155.shtml
>>> NB: the above is a Chinese propaganda channel
>>>
>>> I lost my contact in China on 29th Dec. last year. In the last email
>>> I received from him in May he mentioned cancer, next was an email on
>>> 27th Feb from his wife advising me of his demise. Sad, I've known him
>>> since 1976.
>>> My link to the Russian space has left Russia - health reasons or,
>>> more accurately, a desire to remain healthy. So, getting direct info
>>> from the Sino/Soviet space is now distinctly more difficult. All I
>>> have in the Sino/Soviet space now are a few Vloggers on Youtube and
>>> even they have left Russia and China in order to remain healthy. They
>>> have mentioned Chinese cars in Russia quite often.
>>
>> Jeeze, you have a never ending list of mates, you must be the most
>> connected person that I've ever met (or not)
>
> Was, have had a few drop off the perch in the past two or three years
> during and since Covid.
>>
>>>> Who's the fool now?
>>>
>>> Most likely you.
>>
>> Think again (if you are capable)
>>
>>>>  > Lots of skulduggery going on in the Chinese car industry at the
>>>> moment.
>>>>  > I'm just wondering when China manufactured cars will get
>>>> sanctioned in
>>>>  > the west.
>>>>  >
>>> As I said, there's lots of skulduggery going on in the Sino/Soviet
>>> car space. Ever heard of *badgework engineering*?
>>>
>>> And then there's this;
>>>
>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/14/russia-iran-caspian-sea-sanctions-busting-paradise/
>>>
>>> Here's a scenario for you. Volvo sends cars to the Middle East. Seems
>>> innocuous. They end up in Iran and transit through to Russia via the
>>> Caspian Sea without Volvo cars being able to *control* the ultimate
>>> destination.
>>
>> Really, so where is the evidence that Volvo is doing this? You may
>> want to consider
>>
>> https://www.arabnews.com/node/1377356/business-economy
>>
>>
>

On 20/08/2023 11:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:

>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>
>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.

It's okay. He has to pop in here every morning after the nursing staff
shove his porridge and prune juice down his throat so he can scream at
someone as the staff have taken the batteries out of his radio so he
can't listen to talk back, and he knows that if he mouths off to the
staff like he tries to around here he'll get a fucking back hander that
will shut him up for a month.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 20/08/2023 11:48 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/08/2023 6:28 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> Volvos are ending up in Russia under grey (black?) market schemes.
>
> Quite possibly, but how does that relate to the assertion that Volvo is
> still selling cars there? The goalposts in this discussion seem to have
> shifted somewhat.

You sound genuinely surprised. Surely not :)

You should know well enough by now, Keith. Pursue this long enough and
his stance will evolve to the point where he does a complete 180 degree
turn and feeds your own comments back to *you* and tries to make out
that they were what he was saying all along. Which, of course, is
complete and utter bullshit, but then that's what you get when you argue
with someone who is completely removed from reality.

I suspect you're more than well aware of this, and are just playing
along here to amuse yourself in making this bloke look like the mental
case that he is :)

>> You know, skulduggery. Even though the *official* dealership network
>> is out of the country doesn't mean you can't buy a new Volvo
>
> Even if that is true, and you've provided no evidence that it is, it
> does not mean that Volvo is selling its cars there which was clocky's
> original assertion. Absolutely no evidence has been provided to support
> that assertion.

Genuine question. Can you think of a single occasion where anyone from
the "party" has ever offered up a singe shred of credible evidence to
support a claim they've ever made?

> If somebody is buying Volvos and smuggling them into Russia at a profit
> that's nothing to do with the company, and would probably also apply to
> any desirable car on the market. There are people everywhere willing to
> supply whatever you want no matter how illegal - at a price.

Absolutely, and you'd have to have a fair degree of intellectual
disability to link such black market behaviour with official company
policy.

Here's the thing. This topic is not the slightest bit different to any
other that these morons have been involved with in that they make
idiotic statements that are *clearly* wrong, and rather than simply
accept the fact that they got something wrong and *don't* know
everything they will dig themselves into the most insanely ridiculous
hole in trying to cover their collective arses, and achieve absolutely
nothing other than making themselves look even *more* insanely
ridiculous than what they ever would if they'd stopped straight away and
said "Oh, yes. You're right. My mistake". This is a pattern they've
repeated *so* many times around here that you can pick the exact point
in any conversation where the change takes place.

What did the man say? Stupid is defined as doing the same thing over and
over and expecting a different result? Well, you have to give these FLC
morons credit for something. They've proved that theory to be remarkably
accurate. Many times over :)

--
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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 19/08/2023 5:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 18/08/2023 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> My link to the Russian space has left Russia - health reasons or, more
>> accurately, a desire to remain healthy. So, getting direct info from
>> the Sino/Soviet space is now distinctly more difficult. All I have in
>> the Sino/Soviet space now are a few Vloggers on Youtube and even they
>> have left Russia and China in order to remain healthy. They have
>> mentioned Chinese cars in Russia quite often.
>
> Jeeze, you have a never ending list of mates, you must be the most
> connected person that I've ever met (or not)

ROTFL :)

It's bizarre, isn't it? It doesn't matter *what* you happen to be
talking about, this ridiculous Walter Mitty has a "friend" who just
happens to conveniently placed to have filled him in previously with the
precise information he needs to speak with authority on the subject
regardless of whatever that subject happens to be.

For a bloke who is so despised around here, it's hard to fathom him
having any real friends. Particularly when he himself claimed that he
had to take his Ipad to parties to amuse himself as no one would talk to
him :)

A particular favourite was the guy he claimed to know who lived here
exactly where I do now 20 years before I bought out here and with whom
he had many an interesting conversation with about what it was like to
live here. It was fascinating with Clasener carrying on as if he knew
every nook and cranny of this place, which would have been difficult
enough for someone who had never been here and whose only source of
information was the experiences of someone *else*, but the real comedic
value in it all stemmed from the fact that 20 years before I bought here
*no one* lived in this area as it was farm land, and the electoral roles
showed that no one by any name even remotely resembling the guy Clasener
mentioned had ever lived in this area :)

It's mental illness writ large, and it's reached a level of saturation
now where even his closest FLC buddies must cringe like fuck whenever he
mentions yet *another* imaginary "friend" :)

--
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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 20/8/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>
>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>
>> Your links? where would they be?
>>
>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>
>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>> nothing for your credibility.
>
> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
For sure! Darren & Co have been doing it for years and nary a word of
complaint from Keith then.
>
> alvey
>
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 20/8/2023 12:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 11:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>
> It's okay. He has to pop in here every morning after the nursing staff
> shove his porridge and prune juice down his throat so he can scream at
> someone as the staff have taken the batteries out of his radio so he
> can't listen to talk back, and he knows that if he mouths off to the
> staff like he tries to around here he'll get a fucking back hander that
> will shut him up for a month.
>
Like you've been reduced to silence ever since your bullshit and lies
were outed, Darren?

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 20/8/2023 12:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 19/08/2023 5:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 18/08/2023 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> My link to the Russian space has left Russia - health reasons or,
>>> more accurately, a desire to remain healthy. So, getting direct info
>>> from the Sino/Soviet space is now distinctly more difficult. All I
>>> have in the Sino/Soviet space now are a few Vloggers on Youtube and
>>> even they have left Russia and China in order to remain healthy. They
>>> have mentioned Chinese cars in Russia quite often.
>>
>> Jeeze, you have a never ending list of mates, you must be the most
>> connected person that I've ever met (or not)
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> It's bizarre, isn't it? It doesn't matter *what* you happen to be
> talking about, this ridiculous Walter Mitty has a "friend" who just
> happens to conveniently placed to have filled him in previously with the
> precise information he needs to speak with authority on the subject
> regardless of whatever that subject happens to be.
>
> For a bloke who is so despised around here, it's hard to fathom him
> having any real friends. Particularly when he himself claimed that he
> had to take his Ipad to parties to amuse himself as no one would talk to
> him :)
>
> A particular favourite was the guy he claimed to know who lived here
> exactly where I do now 20 years before I bought out here and with whom
> he had many an interesting conversation with about what it was like to
> live here. It was fascinating with Clasener carrying on as if he knew
> every nook and cranny of this place, which would have been difficult
> enough for someone who had never been here and whose only source of
> information was the experiences of someone *else*, but the real comedic
> value in it all stemmed from the fact that 20 years before I bought here
> *no one* lived in this area as it was farm land, and the electoral roles
> showed that no one by any name even remotely resembling the guy Clasener
> mentioned had ever lived in this area :)

You would be wrong Darren. When I was up there in 2019, I confirmed he
had sold up his holding and moved on. Drove along your way too to
confirm that the wrecking yard had a high fence to cover up the activity
going on behind it. It did! What's it like living in a light industrial
area Darren?
>
> It's mental illness writ large, and it's reached a level of saturation
> now where even his closest FLC buddies must cringe like fuck whenever he
> mentions yet *another* imaginary "friend" :)
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 20/8/2023 12:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 11:48 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/08/2023 6:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Volvos are ending up in Russia under grey (black?) market schemes.
>>
>> Quite possibly, but how does that relate to the assertion that Volvo
>> is still selling cars there? The goalposts in this discussion seem to
>> have shifted somewhat.
>
> You sound genuinely surprised. Surely not :)
>
> You should know well enough by now, Keith. Pursue this long enough and
> his stance will evolve to the point where he does a complete 180 degree
> turn and feeds your own comments back to *you* and tries to make out
> that they were what he was saying all along. Which, of course, is
> complete and utter bullshit, but then that's what you get when you argue
> with someone who is completely removed from reality.
>
> I suspect you're more than well aware of this, and are just playing
> along here to amuse yourself in making this bloke look like the mental
> case that he is :)
>
>>> You know, skulduggery. Even though the *official* dealership network
>>> is out of the country doesn't mean you can't buy a new Volvo
>>
>> Even if that is true, and you've provided no evidence that it is, it
>> does not mean that Volvo is selling its cars there which was clocky's
>> original assertion. Absolutely no evidence has been provided to
>> support that assertion.
>
> Genuine question. Can you think of a single occasion where anyone from
> the "party" has ever offered up a singe shred of credible evidence to
> support a claim they've ever made?
>
>> If somebody is buying Volvos and smuggling them into Russia at a
>> profit that's nothing to do with the company, and would probably also
>> apply to any desirable car on the market. There are people everywhere
>> willing to supply whatever you want no matter how illegal - at a price.
>
> Absolutely, and you'd have to have a fair degree of intellectual
> disability to link such black market behaviour with official company
> policy.

Of course you won't find anything to link it to official *public*
company policy. That's the whole idea of black market behaviour!
>
> Here's the thing. This topic is not the slightest bit different to any
> other that these morons have been involved with in that they make
> idiotic statements that are *clearly* wrong, and rather than simply
> accept the fact that they got something wrong and *don't* know
> everything they will dig themselves into the most insanely ridiculous
> hole in trying to cover their collective arses, and achieve absolutely
> nothing other than making themselves look even *more* insanely
> ridiculous than what they ever would if they'd stopped straight away and
> said "Oh, yes. You're right. My mistake". This is a pattern they've
> repeated *so* many times around here that you can pick the exact point
> in any conversation where the change takes place.
>
> What did the man say? Stupid is defined as doing the same thing over and
> over and expecting a different result? Well, you have to give these FLC
> morons credit for something. They've proved that theory to be remarkably
> accurate. Many times over :)

You stupidly keep claiming the same bullshit lies are true - like your
claims to be a qualified tradie - yet they have been proven false and
you refuse to (can't) stump up proof. Yet you expect people to keep
believing you? Dream on.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:34:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-
maker-
>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this
>>>>>>>> useless dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>>>>> apart from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western
>>>>>>> countries. Geely is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority
>>>>>>> shareholder in Volvo. Volvos are now manufactured in China so will
>>>>>>> be available in Russia though not, obviously, through the Swedish
>>>>>>> Volvo dealer network. They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end
>>>>> up looking as stupid as him
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>
>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>
>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>
>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>
>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.

Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!

Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.

alvey

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 12:01:18 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 20/08/2023 11:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>
> It's okay. He has to pop in here every morning after the nursing staff
> shove his porridge and prune juice down his throat so he can scream at
> someone as the staff have taken the batteries out of his radio so he
> can't listen to talk back, and he knows that if he mouths off to the
> staff like he tries to around here he'll get a fucking back hander that
> will shut him up for a month.

Looks like poor old Fraudster is having a flashback to his childhood.

alvey

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 12:22:25 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 20/08/2023 11:48 am, Keithr0 wrote:

> Genuine question. Can you think of a single occasion where anyone from
> the "party" has ever offered up a singe shred of credible evidence to
> support a claim they've ever made?

Poor old Fraudster. He's so desperate for support that he keeps trying to
converse with someone who continually ignores him. Bad news Fraudster. I
suspect Richo believes that you're way too far below him to bother with.

And of course, there has been overwhelming "credible evidence" published
to prove that the fabled NAR business never existed.

And of course, of course... There's the unfortunate, unintended black
humour of *you* bleating about unsubstantiated claims. You are the Bradman
of that specialty Fraudster.

alvey

On 20/08/2023 4:18 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>
>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>
>> Your links? where would they be?
>>
>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>
>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>> nothing for your credibility.
>
> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> alvey
>
>

It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that he
apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.

So even he knows.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 20/08/2023 10:22 am, Noddy wrote:

<snip rubbish>

> Genuine question. Can you think of a single occasion where anyone from
> the "party" has ever offered up a singe shred of credible evidence to
> support a claim they've ever made?
>

Where is the proof supporting your claims of qualifications, business
ownership etc etc etc fraud?

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 21/08/2023 5:49 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 4:18 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>
>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>
>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>
>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>
>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>>
>
> It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that he
> apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.
>
> So even he knows.

ROTFL You are delusional, your obsession, has warped your mind.

On 21/08/2023 8:07 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 5:49 am, Clocky wrote:

>> It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that he
>> apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.
>>
>> So even he knows.
>
> ROTFL You are delusional, your obsession, has warped your mind.

It surely has.

He used to be a decent bloke once, but that was a *long* time ago. Now
he's about as fucked up as you can get, and seems to exist around here
for no reason other to remind people of that fact and try to start
juvenile arguments all while blaming everyone else for them.

"Idiot" doesn't do him justice.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 21/08/2023 5:00 am, alvey wrote:

>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>
> Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!
>
> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
> respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.

Top Two reasons why I have no respect for you alvey

1) You have never contributed anything worthwhile to this NG. Just reams
of repetitive crap saying the same boring thing over and over. That's
why I don't bother to read most of it, just delete it unread. In fact
I'm not sure why I bother to read any at all, maybe just the faint hope
that one day you may say something interesting.

2) Your mighty ego demands that every question that you ask, no matter
how stupid or rhetorical gets an answer. Of course, being a hypocrite,
you don't think that the same applies to you. Here's the news, *I*
decide which posts I can be bothered to reply to, if you don't like
that, there is the other option.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:08:42 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>>
>>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>>
>> Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!
>>
>> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
>> respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1)
>> admit that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>
>
> Top Two reasons why I have no respect for you alvey
>
> 1) You have never contributed anything worthwhile to this NG. Just reams
> of repetitive crap saying the same boring thing over and over. That's
> why I don't bother to read most of it, just delete it unread. In fact
> I'm not sure why I bother to read any at all, maybe just the faint hope
> that one day you may say something interesting.
>
> 2) Your mighty ego demands that every question that you ask, no matter
> how stupid or rhetorical gets an answer. Of course, being a hypocrite,
> you don't think that the same applies to you. Here's the news, *I*
> decide which posts I can be bothered to reply to, if you don't like
> that, there is the other option.

It must be time to get DNA samples from Richo & The Fraudster. They're
beginning to bleat from the same Book of Bullshit & Lame Excuses.

***EVERYBODY*** knows the real reason why you're heading in the k/f
direction Richo.

alvey
Having a snicker at Keithy "When I was working in Merica" Richo accusing
someone of having a "mighty ego". Top giggle that.

On 21/08/2023 7:08 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>>
>>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>>
>> Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!
>>
>> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
>> respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
>> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>
>
> Top Two reasons why I have

<snip>

Nobody cares what you think. You have zero credibility.

It's not just that you don't answer simple questions, can't admit when
you made a mistake, constantly deride others with your superiority
complex and you are more broadly just a louse - the sealer you have a
proven liar and the most toxic personality to have ever disgraced this
group licking your arse at every step.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 21/08/2023 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:34:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-
> maker-
>>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this
>>>>>>>>> useless dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>>>>>> apart from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western
>>>>>>>> countries. Geely is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority
>>>>>>>> shareholder in Volvo. Volvos are now manufactured in China so will
>>>>>>>> be available in Russia though not, obviously, through the Swedish
>>>>>>>> Volvo dealer network. They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end
>>>>>> up looking as stupid as him
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>>
>>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>>
>>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>
> Yes folks! xeno positively sprinted right into it!
>
> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
> respect for you xeno. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>
>

Fixed it for you.

felix peeks from behind the curtain to see what's happening in aus.cars..

Clocky wrote:
> On 19/08/2023 9:47 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:06:30 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/08/2023 1:31 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>
>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>
>>> They do indeed, and the most ludicrous part about all of it is how
>>> ridiculously infantile they make themselves look when trying to cover
>>> their arses after they've made complete cunts out of themselves as
>>> they've done here.
>>>
>>> Seriously I don't know why they don't just *shut the fuck up* and move
>>> onto somewhere else, as no one around here thinks they're anything
>>> but a
>>> joke.
>>
>> Wrong *again* Fraudster!
>>
>> As your bizzare and mythological posting history makes obvious, you are
>> totally incapable of knowing what "ludicrous" is. Like your effort above
>> Fraudster. Now I didn't open any of the links as I don't care enough to
>> discover who's right and who's wrong as easily the "most ludicrous"
>> thing
>> here is *you* bleating about someone (possibly) making a *mistake*.
>> *You*,
>> as the perpetrator of the biggest collection of *lies* outside of
>> Trumpworld that I know of, look a deranged laughing-stock, for
>> attempting
>> to put shit on people for making a *mistake*. Clearly your values are as
>> well calibrated as your English.
>>
>> You are a buffoon Fraudster.
>> Always have been, always will be.
>>
>
> There was only one mistake... by ol' Slimey Liemey.
>
> My links prove I was right and he was wrong. The fraudster doesn't
> concern himself with facts

or reality or truth

> so he's irrelevant in this.
>

yes

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!
https://imgur.com/gallery/v4u4c15

Noddy wrote:
> On 19/08/2023 5:02 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your
>>> arse licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>
>> Your links? where would they be?
>
> Did he actually post any?
>
> You were the only one replying to him as far as I can tell, and you
> usually quote people verbatim. I didn't see any links from him quoted
> by you, so you either deliberately snipped them or he never posted any
> to begin with.
>
> I know where my money would be, but he's free to cite the message he
> reckons he posted these mythical links in. Don't hold your breath
> waiting though, as he's getting as bad as his mental mate Clasener
> when it comes to dealing with reality.

if you didn't pretend to have ppl blocked, you would be able to admit
you know what was said, and wouldn't look so pathetic

<snip>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!
https://imgur.com/gallery/v4u4c15

alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:34:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-
> maker-
>>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this
>>>>>>>>> useless dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>>>>>> apart from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western
>>>>>>>> countries. Geely is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority
>>>>>>>> shareholder in Volvo. Volvos are now manufactured in China so will
>>>>>>>> be available in Russia though not, obviously, through the Swedish
>>>>>>>> Volvo dealer network. They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end
>>>>>> up looking as stupid as him
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>>
>>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
> Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!
>
> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
> respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>
>

applies to his mentor also..

>
> alvey

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