On 31/08/2023 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>> the agency model.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>
>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if
>>> people really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>
>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time previously.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>> have to say :)
>>>
>>
>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses blocked.
>> (or so you claim)
>>
> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>
>
"no way can he ignore me"! It's obvious who is the narcissist.

On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>
>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying a
>>>> Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to the
>>> agency model.
>>>
>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>
>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've made
>> a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and preying
>> on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it. Manufacturers have
>> also learned from the Tesla model in that if people really want
>> something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>
>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time previously.
>>
>> --
>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>> have to say :)
>>
>
> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!

OK, just show your proof of that statement.

On 31/8/2023 6:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying a
>>>>> Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>> the
>>>> agency model.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>
>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've made
>>> a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and preying
>>> on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it. Manufacturers have
>>> also learned from the Tesla model in that if people really want
>>> something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>
>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time previously.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>> have to say :)
>>>
>>
>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>
> OK, just show your proof of that statement.
>
The mere fact he felt he had to make that statement is proof enough.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 30/08/2023 2:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 28/08/2023 6:53 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:57:23 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/8/2023 2:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 26/08/2023 6:49 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective nouns
>>>>> too. You sure that you're not related?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keeping up your adhom:fact ratio?
>>>
>>> For an adhom:fact ratio of 1,000,000:0 look no further than Darren and
>>> the FLCJC.
>>
>> Indeedy. To snipe at *anyone* other than Fraudster for ad homs is an act
>> of extraordinary stupidity.
>
> ‘Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
> considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?’
>
> atthew 7:3–5

Bless you.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 31/08/2023 3:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>> the agency model.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if
>>> people really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>
>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time previously.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>> have to say :)
>>>
>>
>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses blocked.
>> (or so you claim)
>>
> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>
>

Evidently that is the case. You're inside his head. There is no way he
can say or hear your name without thinking of you now :-)

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 31/08/2023 6:02 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 31/08/2023 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>
>>
>  "no way can he ignore me"! It's obvious who is the narcissist.

ROTFL :)

Just when you think this moron couldn't make himself look any more of a
mental defective than he already is :)

Hahahahahaha :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 31/8/2023 12:08 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 09:30:20 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2023 9:24 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 30/08/2023 10:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd have said a *successful* old fart given Darren's narcissistic and
>>>> utterly fraudulent claims no longer dominate aus.cars. Gives me a warm
>>>> inner glow, that does!
>>>>
>>> LOL, obsessed old fart more like. Where is the "Success" BTW, you have
>>> achieved nothing other than driving some long term contributors away.
>>
>> ROTFL :)
>>
>> How you can see people blocking you because you're an irrelevant
>> repetitive noise making mental case as a "victory" I'm fucked if I know,
>> but it works for him apparently.
>
> Prolly because you keep engaging...
>
> Oh and the point was made that since people discovered that so very many
> of your chest-puffing claims were just lies you've stopped making any.
> Dead giveaway that Fraudster.
>
>
> alvey

Yep, much more subdued in the bullshit claims department.

But he's had heaps in the past, all clangers. I still fondly recall his
bullshit when I used the term "effective compression ratio" in a
discussion way back. Darren really went to town on that! Called it
gobbledygook and theoretical bullshit. He was totally wrong of course.

Ever since mechanics began hotting up engines, compression ratios have
been hyped up to the max. The compression ratios quoted by most people
are the *static compression ratios* and these are *theoretical ratios*
that are purely computed. Static compression ratios are the mathematical
representation of the ratio of the cylinder volume compressed between
the piston at BDC and the piston at TDC. It is an easy ratio to
calculate because all the variables in the equation remain the same
(static) except for the position of the piston in the bore. The
*assumption* of the static compression ratio is that the intake valve
has no effect on compression ratios.

Here was Darren slamming my use of the term "effective compression
ratio" and definitively stating that static compression ratio was the
only one that mattered, all else being *gobbledygook*. How ironic that
he was backing a *theoretical value* against my real world value. Even
more ironic - he called me a *theory man* and claimed to be the one with
all the real world experience. Even Paul tried to set Darren right,
mentioning terms such as *dynamic compression ratios* and the Atkinson
cycle as used in the Prius where the inlet valve closing point is used
to vary the ratio of compression stroke versus power stroke.

The engine is anything but static and the valve event for the intake
cycle typically closes *after* BDC when the piston is on its way back up
the cylinder. Therefore, the idea of the static compression ratio
measuring from BDC to TDC is incorrect. Instead what we have is another
way of looking at compression ratio and we call that the dynamic
compression ratio. Because the inlet valve closes after BDC, the
effective overall volume of the cylinder has decreased because the
piston has risen in the bore with the valve still open. As the piston
rises it forces the air/fuel charge back out the still open inlet valve
up until the point at which it closes completely. The moment the intake
valve closes completely becomes the starting point for calculating the
*dynamic compression ratio*. It stands to reason then that the dynamic
compression ratio is always *less than* the static compression ratio
unless the cam is ground such that the intake valve opens and closes
precisely at TDC and BDC and I've never seen this in all my years in the
trade.

There's another aspect of compression ratios that tyros like Darren
don't seem to get. With the engine stationary, and the piston at the
bottom of the cylinder, the air *density* will be at 100%. Let's assume
the intake valve shuts when the piston is about 25% of the way up the
bore so there will be no compression until this point, any excess having
backpedalled out the open intake valve. The air in the cylinder is still
at 100% density. That means that we have lost 25% of the air in the
cylinder and lost 25% of the compression ratio compared to static.
Instead of, say, 10:1 (static), we are now down to 7.5:1 (dynamic). It
gets worse if the engine is actually running. We then need to take
volumetric efficiency into account. A typical production engine will
have a VE of 80%, maybe up to 85%. That's because, with only the small
differential of atmospheric pressure to force air in, intake tract
resistance will reduce the amount of air able to enter the cylinder.
That means that, in a running engine, the air charge will only be, say,
80% of atmospheric pressure - or 80% of the density. The *effective*
compression ratio is now down to 80% of the dynamic compression ratio.
Even then, the effective compression ratio is not linear across the
engine's RPM range. Typically it builds from a lower value, peaks at an
optimum RPM, then falls away from there. This can be seen in the torque
curve which tracks the VE curve. Where torque is greatest you have your
point of maximum VE.
Why did I move from dynamic compression ratio to *effective* compression
ratio? It's because I'm using a value that doesn't rely upon
measurements of physical dimensions and looks at *all the variables*
present in a running engine. A simple one - altitude - the higher you go
the less dense the air. That will reduce the *effective* compression
ratio. Intake tract temperature is another - as the air picks up heat
from the intake tract it becomes less dense. Restrictions in the intake
tract impede flow thereby reducing density. And there's the other side
of the equation - supercharging. It's obvious that if you pressurise the
air *before* it enters the cylinder, then that will increase the air
density *above atmospheric*. All of this renders the static compression
ratio useless for anything other than providing a *start point* and
here's a perfect example of that;

https://www.cars-data.com/en/toyota-prius/compression-ratio

Note the Prius has a compression ratio of 13:1, must be a really hot
engine, eh?

Not so fast! That is the *static compression ratio*. Actually, it is
more correctly termed an *expansion ratio* because it is unrelated to
the dynamic compression ratio. Atkinson cycle engines have a longer
power stroke than compression stroke (that valve timing). The intake
valves stay open for 30 degrees into the *physical* compression stroke.
That means the *dynamic compression ratio* is more like 8:1. A big
difference!

Here's a little info on the Atkinson cycle engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_cycle

In the late 20th century, the term "Atkinson cycle" began
to be used to describe a modified Otto-cycle engine—in
which the intake valve is held open longer than normal,
allowing a reverse flow of intake air into the intake
manifold. This "simulated" Atkinson cycle is most
notably used in the Toyota 1NZ-FXE engine from the early
Prius and the Toyota Dynamic Force engines.

The effective compression ratio is reduced—for the time
the air is escaping the cylinder freely rather than being
compressed—but the expansion ratio is unchanged (i.e.,
the compression ratio is smaller than the expansion ratio).
The goal of the modern Atkinson cycle is to make the
pressure in the combustion chamber at the end of the power
stroke equal to atmospheric pressure. When this occurs, all
available energy has been obtained from the combustion
process. For any given portion of air, the greater
expansion ratio converts more energy from heat to useful
mechanical energy—meaning the engine is more efficient.

So when Darren called my use of the term *effective compression ratio*
gobbledygook, I knew immediately that he had never attended TAFE as an
apprentice motor mechanic because the above is what an apprentice learns
in *second year engines*. I know because I spent rather a lot of my time
in TAFE teaching 2nd and 3rd year engines at Richmond. Definitely he
never was apprenticed as an AME(engines) because that apprenticeship is
at technician level and it's patently obvious that an apprenticeship
focused solely on (aircraft) engines is going to have a great deal more
depth than that for an automotive motor mechanic. An aircraft engines
apprentice mechanic would definitely know that static compression ratios
are meaningless in an environment where altitude plays havoc with
effective compression ratios. Hence the higher entry level into AME
apprenticeships. Darren was unqualified to even enter into any
apprenticeship at all and definitely not an AME apprenticeship because
he skipped the last few months of year 9 and those rather important
final exams.

Yes, Darren's chest puffing lies are, for the most part, gone but he is
still here, still badmouthing. It is gratifying to see his postcount
down to the nether regions of obscurity. 59 this month. ;-)

On 31/8/2023 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 31/08/2023 6:02 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>>
>>>
>>   "no way can he ignore me"! It's obvious who is the narcissist.
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> Just when you think this moron couldn't make himself look any more of a
> mental defective than he already is :)
>
> Hahahahahaha :)
>
Darren, all your *achievements* are in your head - mere figments of your
delusional mind.

Can you prove me wrong? Stump up those claimed trade reg numbers for a
start!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:02:09 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> Noddy wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 9:24 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 30/08/2023 10:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd have said a *successful* old fart given Darren's narcissistic and
>>>> utterly fraudulent claims no longer dominate aus.cars. Gives me a
>>>> warm inner glow, that does!
>>>>
>>> LOL, obsessed old fart more like. Where is the "Success" BTW, you have
>>> achieved nothing other than driving some long term contributors away.
>>
>> ROTFL :)
>>
>> How you can see people blocking you because you're an irrelevant
>> repetitive noise making mental case as a "victory" I'm fucked if I
>> know, but it works for him apparently.
>>
>> Such is the fragility of his mental state :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> whatever. the fact remains that in all this time you have never
> substantiated your automotive claims. that is fact.

Yep, that plus the fact that there's been credible evidence produced which
disproves some of his claims. One could certainly argue that if anyone has
"driven away" posters then it'd be ex-Enablers who departed in
disenchantment because Fraudster was exposed as a massive fraud and an
enormous hypocrite to boot.

alvey

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:00:50 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 30/08/2023 2:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 28/08/2023 6:53 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:57:23 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/8/2023 2:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 26/08/2023 6:49 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective
>>>>>> nouns too. You sure that you're not related?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keeping up your adhom:fact ratio?
>>>>
>>>> For an adhom:fact ratio of 1,000,000:0 look no further than Darren
>>>> and the FLCJC.
>>>
>>> Indeedy. To snipe at *anyone* other than Fraudster for ad homs is an
>>> act of extraordinary stupidity.
>>
>> ‘Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
>> considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?’
>>
>> atthew 7:3–5
>
> Bless you.

Bless me Fathead for I have snored through your sermons...

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:03:31 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>> the agency model.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-
landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>
>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if people
>>> really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>
>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>> previously.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>> have to say :)
>>>
>>>
>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>
> OK, just show your proof of that statement.

Another PKB moment from Richo...

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 20:18:58 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 31/08/2023 6:02 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>>
>>>
>>  "no way can he ignore me"! It's obvious who is the narcissist.
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> Just when you think this moron couldn't make himself look any more of a
> mental defective than he already is :)

Hmmm. So you pair either have, 1) Dismal-to-poor comprehension, or; 2) are
deliberately misinterpreting. But meh. Either way you look like simpletons.

hth

alvey

On 31/8/2023 7:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 31/08/2023 3:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be
>>>>>> buying a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that
>>>>>> interests me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change
>>>>> to the agency model.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if
>>>> people really want something they're happy to go straight to the
>>>> source.
>>>>
>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>> previously.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything
>>>> you have to say :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses blocked.
>>> (or so you claim)
>>>
>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>
>>
>
> Evidently that is the case. You're inside his head. There is no way he
> can say or hear your name without thinking of you now :-)
>
Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every time
he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony! ;-)

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 1/9/2023 7:33 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:02:09 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 9:24 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 30/08/2023 10:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'd have said a *successful* old fart given Darren's narcissistic and
>>>>> utterly fraudulent claims no longer dominate aus.cars. Gives me a
>>>>> warm inner glow, that does!
>>>>>
>>>> LOL, obsessed old fart more like. Where is the "Success" BTW, you have
>>>> achieved nothing other than driving some long term contributors away.
>>>
>>> ROTFL :)
>>>
>>> How you can see people blocking you because you're an irrelevant
>>> repetitive noise making mental case as a "victory" I'm fucked if I
>>> know, but it works for him apparently.
>>>
>>> Such is the fragility of his mental state :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> whatever. the fact remains that in all this time you have never
>> substantiated your automotive claims. that is fact.
>
> Yep, that plus the fact that there's been credible evidence produced which
> disproves some of his claims. One could certainly argue that if anyone has
> "driven away" posters then it'd be ex-Enablers who departed in
> disenchantment because Fraudster was exposed as a massive fraud and an
> enormous hypocrite to boot.
>
Yep, I am reminded of the lying lawyer from Cairns, a huge supporter of
Darren - until he realised he had his money on a loser. I wonder if he
went to the trouble of checking Darren's bona fides at PROV? Those
records are available for public scrutiny. His departure from here was
rather sudden. Maybe he simply had an epiphany?
>
> alvey

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 1/9/2023 7:37 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:03:31 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>>> the agency model.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-
> landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if people
>>>> really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>>
>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>> previously.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>>> have to say :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>>
>> OK, just show your proof of that statement.
>
> Another PKB moment from Richo...

Keith is becoming just like Darren - asking, nay, demanding proof of
anything and everything other posters say or claim but never stumping up
anything in the way of proof themselves. Sad.
--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/09/2023 11:50 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/9/2023 7:33 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 17:02:09 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:24 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 30/08/2023 10:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have said a *successful* old fart given Darren's narcissistic and
>>>>>> utterly fraudulent claims no longer dominate aus.cars. Gives me a
>>>>>> warm inner glow, that does!
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, obsessed old fart more like. Where is the "Success" BTW, you have
>>>>> achieved nothing other than driving some long term contributors away.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>
>>>> How you can see people blocking you because you're an irrelevant
>>>> repetitive noise making mental case as a "victory" I'm fucked if I
>>>> know, but it works for him apparently.
>>>>
>>>> Such is the fragility of his mental state :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> whatever. the fact remains that in all this time you have never
>>> substantiated your automotive claims. that is fact.
>>
>> Yep, that plus the fact that there's been credible evidence produced
>> which
>> disproves some of his claims. One could certainly argue that if anyone
>> has
>> "driven away" posters then it'd be ex-Enablers who departed in
>> disenchantment because Fraudster was exposed as a massive fraud and an
>> enormous hypocrite to boot.
>>
> Yep, I am reminded of the lying lawyer from Cairns, a huge supporter of
> Darren - until he realised he had his money on a loser. I wonder if he
> went to the trouble of checking Darren's bona fides at PROV? Those
> records are available for public scrutiny. His departure from here was
> rather sudden. Maybe he simply had an epiphany?
>>
>> alvey
>

He certainly realised he backed a turkey before he departed so it's
entirely likely that he left out of sheer embarrassment rather than own
up to being wrong. His profession already rates rather poorly in the
integrity, honesty and trustworthy departments but when he deliberately
falsified information on a Wiki page in a failed attempt to set you up
to score a cheap point he did nothing to further the reputation of his
supposed 'profession' except to send it to rock bottom - where it found
good company with all the other team FLCJC members.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/09/2023 11:54 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/9/2023 7:37 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:03:31 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>>>> the agency model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-
>> landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if people
>>>>> really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>>> previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>>>> have to say :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>>>
>>> OK, just show your proof of that statement.
>>
>> Another PKB moment from Richo...
>
> Keith is becoming just like Darren - asking, nay, demanding proof of
> anything and everything other posters say or claim but never stumping up
> anything in the way of proof themselves. Sad.

They have a lot of similarities including making unbelievably grandiose
but obviously bogus claims of achievement to prop up their ego complex.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/09/2023 1:54 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/9/2023 7:37 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:03:31 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying
>>>>>>> a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change to
>>>>>> the agency model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-
>> landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if people
>>>>> really want something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>>> previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>>>> have to say :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>>>
>>> OK, just show your proof of that statement.
>>
>> Another PKB moment from Richo...
>
> Keith is becoming just like Darren - asking, nay, demanding proof of
> anything and everything other posters say or claim but never stumping up
> anything in the way of proof themselves. Sad.

Nope, your mate clocky is the one demanding proof that 2 + 2 = 4.

On 31/08/2023 6:12 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 31/8/2023 6:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 10:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be buying a
>>>>>> Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that interests me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change
>>>>> to the
>>>>> agency model.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>> made
>>>> a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and preying
>>>> on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it. Manufacturers
>>>> have
>>>> also learned from the Tesla model in that if people really want
>>>> something they're happy to go straight to the source.
>>>>
>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>> previously.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything you
>>>> have to say :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> But you are, and you will, you just proved it!
>>
>> OK, just show your proof of that statement.
>>
> The mere fact he felt he had to make that statement is proof enough.
>
OK here is a task that should be easy if you are right, just show a
message where he has replied directly to one of your posts.

On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 31/8/2023 7:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 31/08/2023 3:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be
>>>>>>> buying a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that
>>>>>>> interests me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change
>>>>>> to the agency model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest. They've
>>>>> made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of people and
>>>>> preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick of it.
>>>>> Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in that if
>>>>> people really want something they're happy to go straight to the
>>>>> source.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>>> previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post. I
>>>>> won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about anything
>>>>> you have to say :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses blocked.
>>>> (or so you claim)
>>>>
>>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Evidently that is the case. You're inside his head. There is no way he
>> can say or hear your name without thinking of you now :-)
>>
> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every time
> he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>
>
Delusional much? The pair of you.

On 2/09/2023 1:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 31/8/2023 7:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2023 3:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be
>>>>>>>> buying a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that
>>>>>>>> interests me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the change
>>>>>>> to the agency model.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest.
>>>>>> They've made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of
>>>>>> people and preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick
>>>>>> of it. Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in
>>>>>> that if people really want something they're happy to go straight
>>>>>> to the source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post.
>>>>>> I won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about
>>>>>> anything you have to say :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses
>>>>> blocked. (or so you claim)
>>>>>
>>>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Evidently that is the case. You're inside his head. There is no way
>>> he can say or hear your name without thinking of you now :-)
>>>
>> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every
>> time he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>>
>>
> Delusional much? The pair of you.

Nope :-)

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/09/2023 3:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every
>> time he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>>
>>
> Delusional much? The pair of you.

They're total fucking whackjobs with zero grasp on reality.

I named by son Tom. It's a traditional name on my father's side for all
first born males, but I didn't care too much about that considering that
my mother saw fit to break that tradition with me. I named him after my
Dad who's name was Thomas. His father, my grandfather, was also named
Thomas. *His* father was named Thomas, and so on etc. Those males who
weren't first born got "Thomas" as part of their name, such as my
father's younger brother who was Norman Thomas Gibbens.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with this delusional self absorbed
fucktard. If I was the slightest bit bothered by the name "Thomas" I
would never have given it to my kid, and the fact that he genuinely
believes that from my perspective the name has any relevance to him at
all only serves to show just how utterly fucked up and completely
damaged this moron really is.

I use the name "Tom" every single day, and on every single one of those
occasions he is completely irrelevant when doing so :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 2/09/2023 5:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/09/2023 1:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 31/8/2023 7:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/08/2023 3:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 31/8/2023 5:05 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/08/2023 9:18 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 10:54 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Honda and Merc may take notice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's hope. Well, not that I give a shit, because I won't be
>>>>>>>>> buying a Merc anytime soon and Honda don't have anything that
>>>>>>>>> interests me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mercedes dealers lose their case for compensation over the
>>>>>>>> change to the agency model.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/mercedes-benz-australia-wins-landmark-court-case-against-its-dealers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have much sympathy for "stealerships" to be honest.
>>>>>>> They've made a comfortable living out of ripping the shit out of
>>>>>>> people and preying on their ignorance, and manufacturers are sick
>>>>>>> of it. Manufacturers have also learned from the Tesla model in
>>>>>>> that if people really want something they're happy to go straight
>>>>>>> to the source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next decade is going to see a very interesting period in the
>>>>>>> automotive world. Probably more interesting that at any time
>>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Note to Clasener: There is no need for you to reply to this post.
>>>>>>> I won't see it, and no one else seems to give a fuck about
>>>>>>> anything you have to say :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how would you know? you have everyone except your kissasses
>>>>>> blocked. (or so you claim)
>>>>>>
>>>>> He's a narcissist, no way can he ignore me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Evidently that is the case. You're inside his head. There is no way
>>>> he can say or hear your name without thinking of you now :-)
>>>>
>>> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every
>>> time he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> Delusional much? The pair of you.
>
> Nope :-)

Being delusional, you would say that wouldn't you?

On 2/9/2023 5:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/09/2023 3:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every
>>> time he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> Delusional much? The pair of you.
>
> They're total fucking whackjobs with zero grasp on reality.

Says the person who *invented* a complete career in the motor trade!
>
> I named by son Tom.  It's a traditional name on my father's side for all
> first born males, but I didn't care too much about that considering that
> my mother saw fit to break that tradition with me. I named him after my
> Dad who's name was Thomas. His father, my grandfather, was also named
> Thomas. *His* father was named Thomas, and so on etc. Those males who
> weren't first born got "Thomas" as part of their name, such as my
> father's younger brother who was Norman Thomas Gibbens.
>
> It has nothing whatsoever to do with this delusional self absorbed
> fucktard. If I was the slightest bit bothered by the name "Thomas" I
> would never have given it to my kid, and the fact that he genuinely
> believes that from my perspective the name has any relevance to him at
> all only serves to show just how utterly fucked up and completely
> damaged this moron really is.

Man, the fish are biting well today! Hooked a whopper!
>
> I use the name "Tom" every single day, and on every single one of those

And are reminded of me *every single day*! What a hoot. Even better than
I thought!

> occasions he is completely irrelevant when doing so :)
>
Except your post above proves I'm not. You just had to make excuses!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/09/2023 3:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 2/9/2023 5:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 2/09/2023 3:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 2/09/2023 1:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Yep, I'm really getting under his skin. He is reminded of me every
>>>> time he thinks of his middle name. Ah, the agony!   ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Delusional much? The pair of you.
>>
>> They're total fucking whackjobs with zero grasp on reality.
>
> Says the person who *invented* a complete career in the motor trade!
>>
>> I named by son Tom.  It's a traditional name on my father's side for
>> all first born males, but I didn't care too much about that
>> considering that my mother saw fit to break that tradition with me. I
>> named him after my Dad who's name was Thomas. His father, my
>> grandfather, was also named Thomas. *His* father was named Thomas, and
>> so on etc. Those males who weren't first born got "Thomas" as part of
>> their name, such as my father's younger brother who was Norman Thomas
>> Gibbens.
>>
>> It has nothing whatsoever to do with this delusional self absorbed
>> fucktard. If I was the slightest bit bothered by the name "Thomas" I
>> would never have given it to my kid, and the fact that he genuinely
>> believes that from my perspective the name has any relevance to him at
>> all only serves to show just how utterly fucked up and completely
>> damaged this moron really is.
>
> Man, the fish are biting well today! Hooked a whopper!
>>
>> I use the name "Tom" every single day, and on every single one of those
>
> And are reminded of me *every single day*! What a hoot. Even better than
> I thought!
>
>> occasions he is completely irrelevant when doing so :)
>>
> Except your post above proves I'm not. You just had to make excuses!
>

He's the fish that jumps on the hook every time :-)

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."