Noddy wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 8:07 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 21/08/2023 5:49 am, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that
>>> he apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.
>>>
>>> So even he knows.
>>
>> ROTFL You are delusional, your obsession, has warped your mind.
>
> It surely has.
>
> He used to be a decent bloke once, but that was a *long* time ago. Now
> he's about as fucked up as you can get, and seems to exist around here
> for no reason other to remind people of that fact and try to start
> juvenile arguments all while blaming everyone else for them.

for someone who supposedly has ppl blocked you seem to know a lot about
what they do and say <snigger>

>
> "Idiot" doesn't do him justice.
>
>
>
>

--
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FUCK PUTIN!!
https://imgur.com/gallery/v4u4c15

On 21/08/2023 10:17 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:34:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-
>> maker-
>>>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>>>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this
>>>>>>>>>> useless dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>>>>>>> apart from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western
>>>>>>>>> countries. Geely is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority
>>>>>>>>> shareholder in Volvo. Volvos are now manufactured in China so will
>>>>>>>>> be available in Russia though not, obviously, through the Swedish
>>>>>>>>> Volvo dealer network. They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end
>>>>>>> up looking as stupid as him
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>> Yes folks! Richo positively sprinted right into it!
>>
>> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
>> respect for you Richo. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
>> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>>
>>
>
> applies to his mentor also..
>
>>

Not answering questions and running away are a team FLCJC thing.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 21/8/2023 12:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> felix peeks from behind the curtain to see what's happening in aus.cars..
>
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/08/2023 9:47 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:06:30 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/08/2023 1:31 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>> They do indeed, and the most ludicrous part about all of it is how
>>>> ridiculously infantile they make themselves look when trying to cover
>>>> their arses after they've made complete cunts out of themselves as
>>>> they've done here.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously I don't know why they don't just *shut the fuck up* and move
>>>> onto somewhere else, as no one around here thinks they're anything
>>>> but a
>>>> joke.
>>>
>>> Wrong *again* Fraudster!
>>>
>>> As your bizzare and mythological posting history makes obvious, you are
>>> totally incapable of knowing what "ludicrous" is. Like your effort above
>>> Fraudster. Now I didn't open any of the links as I don't care enough to
>>> discover who's right and who's wrong as easily the "most ludicrous"
>>> thing
>>> here is *you* bleating about someone (possibly) making a *mistake*.
>>> *You*,
>>> as the perpetrator of the biggest collection of *lies* outside of
>>> Trumpworld that I know of, look a deranged laughing-stock, for
>>> attempting
>>> to put shit on people for making a *mistake*. Clearly your values are as
>>> well calibrated as your English.
>>>
>>> You are a buffoon Fraudster.
>>> Always have been, always will be.
>>>
>>
>> There was only one mistake... by ol' Slimey Liemey.
>>
>> My links prove I was right and he was wrong. The fraudster doesn't
>> concern himself with facts
>
> or reality or truth

The fraudster Darren has no clue what those two words actually mean.
>
>> so he's irrelevant in this.
>>
>
> yes
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/8/2023 11:48 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:34:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/08/2023 6:18 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
>>>> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-
>> maker-
>>>> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
>>>> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this
>>>>>>>>>> useless dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well,
>>>>>>>>> apart from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western
>>>>>>>>> countries. Geely is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority
>>>>>>>>> shareholder in Volvo. Volvos are now manufactured in China so will
>>>>>>>>> be available in Russia though not, obviously, through the Swedish
>>>>>>>>> Volvo dealer network. They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end
>>>>>>> up looking as stupid as him
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>>>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>>>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your links? where would they be?
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>>>> nothing for your credibility.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>>
>>> Don't worry about it alvey, you have no credibility anyway.
>>
>> Yes folks! xeno positively sprinted right into it!
>>
>> Yep, you've managed to demonstrate the Top Two reasons why I have no
>> respect for you xeno. They'd be your total inability to either; 1) admit
>> that you got something incorrect, or 2) answer a simple question.
>>
>>
>
> Fixed it for you.

Yep, you proved you're as big a slime as Darren. Well done you!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/8/2023 12:24 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 21/08/2023 8:07 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 21/08/2023 5:49 am, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that
>>>> he apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.
>>>>
>>>> So even he knows.
>>>
>>> ROTFL You are delusional, your obsession, has warped your mind.
>>
>> It surely has.
>>
>> He used to be a decent bloke once, but that was a *long* time ago. Now
>> he's about as fucked up as you can get, and seems to exist around here
>> for no reason other to remind people of that fact and try to start
>> juvenile arguments all while blaming everyone else for them.
>
> for someone who supposedly has ppl blocked you seem to know a lot about
> what they do and say <snigger>

Darren's a narcissist, he couldn't avoid reading every single post no
matter how hard he tried. He just *has to know* what is being said about
him at all times. That way he can invent more bullshit stories - he does
that a lot.
>
>>
>> "Idiot" doesn't do him justice.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/08/2023 10:24 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 21/08/2023 8:07 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 21/08/2023 5:49 am, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> It wasn't name calling, it's merely a behavioural observation that
>>>> he apparently recognises as his as he responded to it.
>>>>
>>>> So even he knows.
>>>
>>> ROTFL You are delusional, your obsession, has warped your mind.
>>
>> It surely has.
>>
>> He used to be a decent bloke once, but that was a *long* time ago. Now
>> he's about as fucked up as you can get, and seems to exist around here
>> for no reason other to remind people of that fact and try to start
>> juvenile arguments all while blaming everyone else for them.
>
> for someone who supposedly has ppl blocked you seem to know a lot about
> what they do and say <snigger>
>

It must be about time he responds directly, again :-)

In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for naught
since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they have
offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my statement.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 21/8/2023 5:55 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 10:22 am, Noddy wrote:
>
> <snip rubbish>
>
>> Genuine question. Can you think of a single occasion where anyone from
>> the "party" has ever offered up a singe shred of credible evidence to
>> support a claim they've ever made?
>>
>
> Where is the proof supporting your claims of qualifications, business
> ownership etc etc etc fraud?
>
And those claims are long standing, decades long, and that's only the
time span we know of. He was likely living in his fantasy world from a
very early age. Every time he was confronted with reality, like his year
9 final exam, he ran away.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 12:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/08/2023 8:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/8/2023 6:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 5:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/08/2023 1:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to add, Geely/Volvo is also on the nose in Europe for
>>>>>>>>> remaining one of the manufacturers that still sells new cars in
>>>>>>>>> Russia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volvo-cars-
> suspend-shipments-russia-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/truck-maker-
> ab-volvo-halts-production-russia-spokesperson-2022-02-28/
>>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-
> news-2022-02-28/card/L6Z6ZCZSg7yB2mq9Kl8R
>>>>>>>> etc etc
>>>>>>> ROTFL :) Haven't sold a car or truck in Russia for 18 months, but
>>>>>>> let's not let reality get in the way of another one of this useless
>>>>>>> dickhead's rants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They can't help themselves.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't help yourself, that much is certain. You made a fool of
>>>>>> yourself *again*. You're good at that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Chinese* cars are all you can get in Russia currently. Well, apart
>>>>>> from Russian made cars and cars stolen from western countries. Geely
>>>>>> is a Chinese brand and Geely is the majority shareholder in Volvo.
>>>>>> Volvos are now manufactured in China so will be available in Russia
>>>>>> though not, obviously, through the Swedish Volvo dealer network.
>>>>>> They went back to Sweden, IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, both the slimey liemey and the fraud have egg on their face.
>>>> ROTFL Talk about going off half cocked :)
>>>> You shouldn't believe everything your mate xeno says or you'll end up
>>>> looking as stupid as him
>>>>
>>>>> Shit sticks together as they prove in spades.
>>>> "The Team" certainly proves it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Indeed, *your* team. *You* went off half cocked, you were *proven*
>>> wrong and I was 100% right as my links show and now you and your arse
>>> licking mate look like the true idiots you are.
>> Your links? where would they be?
>>
>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>> nothing for your credibility.
> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?

frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

>
>
> alvey
>
>

--
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FUCK PUTIN!!
https://imgur.com/gallery/v4u4c15

On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:

> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for naught
> since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they have
> offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my statement.

Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?

Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
the gray/black market.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they
>> have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my
>> statement.
>
> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>
> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
> the gray/black market.

Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
this NG".

But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
(possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The Fraudster of
his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall to
bray "hypocrite" at others.

alvey

On 21/08/2023 3:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and
>> they have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up
>> my statement.
>
> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>

Playing dumb because you got your arse handed to you again, sliemey?

> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
> the gray/black market.
>

That's not my assertion. My assertion is that Geely/Volvo are copping
backlash in Europe because Geely, as the parent company of Volvo, *are*
still selling cars in Russia.

My links back up my assertion.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 22/08/2023 4:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they
>>> have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my
>>> statement.
>>
>> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>>
>> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
>> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
>> the gray/black market.
>
> Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
> this NG".
>
> But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
>
> Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
> (possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The Fraudster of
> his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall to
> bray "hypocrite" at others.
>

He always starts nitpicking others for trivial things when *he* has made
a mistake (or fucked up royally as is more often the case) - as a
distraction. The fraud does the same thing.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 22/8/2023 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they
>>> have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my
>>> statement.
>>
>> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>>
>> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
>> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
>> the gray/black market.
>
> Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
> this NG".
>
> But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
>
> Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
> (possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The Fraudster of
> his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall to
> bray "hypocrite" at others.
>
>
> alvey

You have to ask, where was he when when the shoe was on the other foot
and Darren's lies and bullshit claims were being backed by the FLCJC?
Darren and Co were always demanding proof of the claims of others. At
least Jonz had the balls to admit he didn't complete his apprenticeship
when Darren demanded proof from him. But Darren *refuses* to stump up
any proof of his grandiose claims, a photo of cable ties in the wrong
colour is all we've managed to extract from him thus far. No points for
guessing why Darren refuses to stump up a trade reg number or two - hard
to conjure up mythical proof of mythical claims. His name doesn't appear
*anywhere* on the trade registration database. Even the government
archives have nothing with Darren's name upon them - and the FLCJC can
go check that source for themselves.
Just register here; https://prov.vic.gov.au and order out the
relevant archive boxes, then drop in to the reading room the next day at
this venue;
Public Record Office Victoria, 112 Macauley Rd,
North Melbourne VIC 3051
or enter via the street entrance, 99 Shiel Street

Grumpy won't go to the above venue however, he *trusts* Darren. That
little statement from Grumpy set me off on a paroxysm of laughter that
would have put a kookaburra to shame!

Of course you could also go to the VACC to verify the bona fides of a
tradesman claiming to be qualified in automotive. The VACC love the
opportunity to get shonks out of the trade in Victoria. Did you notice
how, after I queried Darren's VACC membership with the VACC, he quickly
said he was *shutting up shop* on the Merrimu Mesa and only working on
his own vehicles. That email I received from the VACC confirming neither
Darren nor any of his business names was known there must've really put
the wind up him!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Xeno wrote:
> On 22/8/2023 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>>>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and
>>>> they
>>>> have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my
>>>> statement.
>>>
>>> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>>>
>>> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
>>> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there
>>> are on
>>> the gray/black market.
>>
>> Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
>> this NG".
>>
>> But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
>>   Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
>> (possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The
>> Fraudster of
>> his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall to
>> bray "hypocrite" at others.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>
> You have to ask, where was he when when the shoe was on the other foot
> and Darren's lies and bullshit claims were being backed by the FLCJC?
> Darren and Co were always demanding proof of the claims of others. At
> least Jonz

speak of the devil.. jonz has been notably absent for two months. maybe
the old bugger has carked it?

> had the balls to admit he didn't complete his apprenticeship when
> Darren demanded proof from him. But Darren *refuses* to stump up any
> proof of his grandiose claims, a photo of cable ties in the wrong
> colour is all we've managed to extract from him thus far. No points
> for guessing why Darren refuses to stump up a trade reg number or two
> - hard to conjure up mythical proof of mythical claims. His name
> doesn't appear *anywhere* on the trade registration database. Even the
> government archives have nothing with Darren's name upon them - and
> the FLCJC can go check that source for themselves.
> Just register here;   https://prov.vic.gov.au   and order out the
> relevant archive boxes, then drop in to the reading room the next day
> at this venue;
>       Public Record Office Victoria, 112 Macauley Rd,
>       North Melbourne VIC 3051
>       or enter via the street entrance, 99 Shiel Street
>
> Grumpy won't go to the above venue however, he *trusts* Darren. That
> little statement from Grumpy set me off on a paroxysm of laughter that
> would have put a kookaburra to shame!
>
> Of course you could also go to the VACC to verify the bona fides of a
> tradesman claiming to be qualified in automotive. The VACC love the
> opportunity to get shonks out of the trade in Victoria. Did you notice
> how, after I queried Darren's VACC membership with the VACC, he
> quickly said he was *shutting up shop* on the Merrimu Mesa and only
> working on his own vehicles. That email I received from the VACC
> confirming neither Darren nor any of his business names was known
> there must've really put the wind up him!
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!
https://imgur.com/gallery/v4u4c15

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:30:05 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:02:08 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/08/2023 4:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 18/08/2023 11:31 am, Keithr0 wrote:

>>>> There is a reason you have no credibility slimey liemey.
>>> Really? What is that? Still juvenile name calling I see, that does
>>> nothing for your credibility.
>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

Another reliable indicator of how an arguement is going is the length of
time between replies.

Note: The codacil to the losers' eventual return is usually, "I've had
better things to do!", or "You're too stupid to waste my time on".

alvey

On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The Team".

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On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The Team".

.
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On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The Team".

.
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On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The Team".

.
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On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The Team".

.
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On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:

>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>
>
> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates with
> the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH

On 22/08/2023 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and they
>>> have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back up my
>>> statement.
>>
>> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>>
>> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
>> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are on
>> the gray/black market.
>
> Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
> this NG".

A proven fact.

> But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
>
> Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
> (possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The Fraudster of
> his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall to
> bray "hypocrite" at others.

LOL, This from the troll who jumps on any error by a non-team member no
matter how small. Oh the hypocrisy!

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:01:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates
>> with the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH
>
> In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
> fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The
> Team".

lol.

So you've given up and are just trolling now. Another poor decision Richo.
*Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...

alvey

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:01:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates
>> with the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH
>
> In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
> fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The
> Team".

lol.

So you've given up and are just trolling now. Another poor decision Richo.
*Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...

alvey

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:01:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates
>> with the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH
>
> In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
> fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The
> Team".

lol.

So you've given up and are just trolling now. Another poor decision Richo.
*Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...

alvey

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:01:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates
>> with the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH
>
> In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
> fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The
> Team".

lol.

So you've given up and are just trolling now. Another poor decision Richo.
*Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...

alvey

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:01:41 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/08/2023 1:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>
>>> Really? What does name-calling have to do with credibility Richo?
>>
>>
>> frequently on usenet the 'ad-hom to fact' ratio in posts correlates
>> with the extent to which an argument is being won. HTH
>
> In that case alvey is the biggest loser around here with an 'ad-hom to
> fact' ratio in the thousands, followed closely by the rest of "The
> Team".

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:04:47 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:

> On 22/08/2023 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:29:06 +1000, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/08/2023 1:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> In any event I'm not interested in their opinions. They count for
>>>> naught since they have no credibility. I'm interested in facts and
>>>> they have offered nothing to counter the proof I provided that back
>>>> up my statement.
>>>
>>> Hmm you've got me there what proof of what?
>>>
>>> Your assertion that Volvo are still selling cars in Russia has been
>>> comprehensively demolished, even xeno reckons that any sold there are
>>> on the gray/black market.
>>
>> Said Richo: "You [alvey] have never contributed anything worthwhile to
>> this NG".
>
> A proven fact.

Called it! A dull troll delivered bang on cue!

>> But this pissy, nit-picking campaign Richo has initiated apparently is.
>>
>> Jaysus Richo! You carry on and on over this tremendously trivial
>> (possible) error yet you claim that repeatedly reminding The Fraudster
>> of his truly monstrous lies is "repetitive crap". And you have the gall
>> to bray "hypocrite" at others.
>
> LOL, This from the troll who jumps on any error by a non-team member no
> matter how small. Oh the hypocrisy!

O the absurd but still boring trollery!

If I jumped on every "error" by Fraudster and you Enablers there'd not be
time enough to sleep. Frinstance... Did I make any comment on your fine
example of tautology above? Nope. Not even a single emoticon over "A
proven fact".

alvey

On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:

> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...

That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.

On 25/8/2023 10:09 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>
>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>
> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>
Speaking for the entire world now, eh?

Note well, you-do-not-speak-for-me!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson wrote:

> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>
>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>
> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.

Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective nouns
too. You sure that you're not related?

Anyhoo, at least your silly and tedious responses are getting briefer.
Keep that trend going Iceman!

alvey

On 26/08/2023 6:49 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson wrote:
>
>> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>>
>>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>>
>> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>
> Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective nouns
> too. You sure that you're not related?

Keeping up your adhom:fact ratio?

On 27/8/2023 2:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/08/2023 6:49 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>>>
>>> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>>
>> Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective nouns
>> too. You sure that you're not related?
>
>
> Keeping up your adhom:fact ratio?

For an adhom:fact ratio of 1,000,000:0 look no further than Darren and
the FLCJC.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:57:23 +1000, Xeno wrote:

> On 27/8/2023 2:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/08/2023 6:49 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:09:38 +1000, Keithr0 'The Iceman' Richardson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2023 6:34 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Nobody* likes a troll. Especially a dull one...
>>>>
>>>> That's why nobody likes you alve old boy.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm. Fraudster is very partial to incorrectly using collective nouns
>>> too. You sure that you're not related?
>>
>>
>> Keeping up your adhom:fact ratio?
>
> For an adhom:fact ratio of 1,000,000:0 look no further than Darren and
> the FLCJC.

Indeedy. To snipe at *anyone* other than Fraudster for ad homs is an act
of extraordinary stupidity.

alvey