On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:40:30 +0100, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:50:15 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:07:13 +0100, Indy Jess John
>><bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 08/10/2021 09:55, Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>>>
>>>The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
>>>accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
>>>the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
>>>stopped watching it.
>>
>>Somebody from Silent Witness said in an interview that some times they make up
>>the medical stuff and nobody has complained yet.
>
>That doesn't mean nobody notices. Doctors probably think it's a more
>valuable use of their time and effort to deal with their real patients
>than to complain about the treatment of fictitious ones.
>My mother, who was a doctor, would regularly notice medical mistakes
>in TV dramas, and my father's interest in ornithology enabled him to
>notice if they'd used a sound effect with the wrong kind of birdsong
>for the place or time of year, but neither of them ever thought of
>complaining to anyone about it. We've probably all seen a few glaring
>errors in anything involving electronics or computers, but realised it
>would be pointless to make a fuss. It just makes you less inclined to
>watch future episodes once you realise they're full of bollocks.

I didn't watch future episodes of Silent Witness,
--

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Martin wrote:

>Somebody from Silent Witness said in an interview that some times they make up
>the medical stuff and nobody has complained yet.

In one of the recent episodes (spoiler alert) a key plot point
was that at the house where a body was found, the boiler had
locked out.

It was supposed to be a low-energy sealed house, with a single
inlet for air changes, and they showed the concentric balanced
flue of the boiler.

Their explanation was that the house had been filled with
nitrogen, which asphyxiated the occupant, and extinguished the
boiler pilot light.

No pilot light in modern boilers, no connection to the interior
with a room sealed appliance. :-(

Chris
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chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

On 07/10/2021 10:56, Dex wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 13:18:48 +0100
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Just as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The
>> Natural World' to be about animal researchers rather than the animals
>> they were researching - presumably because the human researchers
>> are easier and quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film - so BBC
>> Science & Technology stories are increasingly 'human interest'
>> stories rather than about scientific research. Here is today's RSS
>> feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>>
>> ∗ BBC News - Science & Environment
>>
>> Chemistry Nobel awarded for mirror-image molecules
>> A Briton and a German have been awarded the chemistry Nobel for
>> their work to build new molecules....
>>
>> [Fine]
>>
>> Climate change: Voices from global south muted by climate science
>> Climate academics from some of the regions worst hit by warming
>> are struggling to be published....
>>
>> [Marginal]
>>
>> Nobel in physics: Climate science breakthroughs earn prize
>> The physics Nobel has been given for work to understand complex
>> systems such as the Earth's climate....
>>
>> [Fine]
>>
>> Russian film team boldly shoot towards space station
>> An actress and film director dock with the International Space
>> Station in a first for Russia....
>>
>> [Show business]
>>
>> Life at sea by world's largest offshore wind farm in North Sea
>> Fancy a job with great sea views? Meet the engineers who
>> maintain 174 turbines in the North Sea....
>>
>> [Marginal]
>>
>> Captain Kirk: Bezos' Blue Origin to send William Shatner into
>> space William Shatner, who played Captain Kirk, is set to become the
>> oldest person to fly to space....
>>
>> [Show Business]
>>
>> All UK's electricity will come from clean sources by 2035, says
>> PM Boris Johnson says the UK can get all its electricity supply to
>> "complete clean energy production" by 2035....
>>
>> [Politics]
>>
>> What climate scientists can teach us about dealing with climate
>> change doom
>> Climate anxiety is on the rise, so we spoke to climate
>> scientists about what helps them deal with feelings of
>> hopelessness....
>>
>> [Extremely Marginal, if really scientific at all]
>>
>> Huntington Beach: California oil spill sparks concern for
>> wildlife The spill has been described by one official as a potential
>> ecological disaster....
>>
>> [Not Science, barely Technology, so again very marginal]
>>
>> The flood that drowned American dreams
>> Immigrant deaths in New York's floods lay bare the 'climate
>> apartheid' wrought by extreme weather....
>>
>> [Politics and 'human interest']
>>
>> Discuss!
>>
>
>
> Well, every American astronomy program I've seen has been
> about how we're all going to be killed off by space rocks, supernovae
> or gamma-ray bursts...
>
> Real astrophysicists waving their hands about and shouting how the
> next one is going to be the BIG one. Ice road trucker type thing where
> there are going to fall through the ice, but don't. Tune in next week
> when they might fall through the ice.
>

The one that I always notice is on the "Repair Shop" the
repair/restoration is only completed 5 minutes before the owners turn up
to collect it.
False deadline bull shit!

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In article <ism54dFffc8U1@mid.individual.net>,
alan_m <news@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>The one that I always notice is on the "Repair Shop" the
>repair/restoration is only completed 5 minutes before the owners turn up
>to collect it.
>False deadline bull shit!

Having watched the Repair Shop for some time, I can honestly
say that I've never noticed the "false deadline bullshit" you claim.

Not once has there been "We have 24 hours to fix this battered
radio!" etc. like on certain *other* programmes (which deserve your
criticism). It's not that kind of show. There is no pace and
urgency.

That's what makes it a much better watch ...

Occasionally, they will mention in voice-over that something
is being finally put together and tested "because the owner is
coming back to collect it later today". Do you not think that they
operate a "it takes as long as it takes, do you want it done GOOD, or
want it done FAST?" policy? Do you not think that a call goes out
from the production company, "Hello, our expert is almost done, can
you pop by later today? Oh ... ok, tomorrow then, we'll work with that!"

It's not "and 5 minutes later", it's just they edit out the boring,
unnecessary assumed bit where they have to travel from home to get
to the repair-barn location. If they left that in, it wouldn't be
an approx 1 hour show, would it?

What next, complaints that when brass/chrome/plated items come in,
that they "send it off to a company to be plated" and it's all
done and back WITHIN THE HOUR!! FALSE PLATING BULLSHIT! ? :)

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On 12/10/2021 21:17, Mike wrote:
> In article <ism54dFffc8U1@mid.individual.net>,
> alan_m <news@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The one that I always notice is on the "Repair Shop" the
>> repair/restoration is only completed 5 minutes before the owners turn up
>> to collect it.
>> False deadline bull shit!
>
It's TV bullshit because of the reasons you give. Its obvious that
some of the repairs or restorations take days, weeks or even months to
complete but often it is mentioned that the owner is due in and it is
still being worked on. I assume that the producers would wait until the
repair is totally complete before contacting the owner to return to
collect it but this is not the impression given.

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On 12/10/2021 21:17, Mike wrote:
> Occasionally, they will mention in voice-over that something
> is being finally put together and tested "because the owner is
> coming back to collect it later today". Do you not think that they
> operate a "it takes as long as it takes, do you want it done GOOD, or
> want it done FAST?" policy? Do you not think that a call goes out
> from the production company, "Hello, our expert is almost done, can
> you pop by later today? Oh ... ok, tomorrow then, we'll work with that!"

I agree, they show them finishing off the job but it is not like
Masterchef where are rushing around because supposedly less than a
minute left.

Am 12.10.2021 um 22:17 schrieb Mike:
> In article <ism54dFffc8U1@mid.individual.net>,
> alan_m <news@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The one that I always notice is on the "Repair Shop" the
>> repair/restoration is only completed 5 minutes before the owners turn up
>> to collect it.
>> False deadline bull shit!
>
> Having watched the Repair Shop for some time, I can honestly
> say that I've never noticed the "false deadline bullshit" you claim.
>
> Not once has there been "We have 24 hours to fix this battered
> radio!" etc. like on certain *other* programmes (which deserve your
> criticism). It's not that kind of show. There is no pace and
> urgency.
>
> That's what makes it a much better watch ...
>
> Occasionally, they will mention in voice-over that something
> is being finally put together and tested "because the owner is
> coming back to collect it later today". Do you not think that they
> operate a "it takes as long as it takes, do you want it done GOOD, or
> want it done FAST?" policy? Do you not think that a call goes out
> from the production company, "Hello, our expert is almost done, can
> you pop by later today? Oh ... ok, tomorrow then, we'll work with that!"
>
> It's not "and 5 minutes later", it's just they edit out the boring,
> unnecessary assumed bit where they have to travel from home to get
> to the repair-barn location. If they left that in, it wouldn't be
> an approx 1 hour show, would it?
>
> What next, complaints that when brass/chrome/plated items come in,
> that they "send it off to a company to be plated" and it's all
> done and back WITHIN THE HOUR!! FALSE PLATING BULLSHIT! ? :)
>

I enjoy watching the Repair Shop because I am in admiration of the
skills and craftsmanship of the team, esdpecially the wood- and metal
workers, the ceramics and art restorers, the horologist and the leather
lady, and .........

<RANT>
What I find extremely irritating, and in recent times seems to have got
worse is the faux sentimentality and tears which is fuelled by searching
questions by the presenter. Obviously the producers must think this is
what people want to see. Well I don't.

Whilst warching I have devoloped a game of counting how many tines the
phrase "pleased/nice to meet you" is said. Probably another thing the
produceers insist on.

I really wish the emphasis was put back to demonstrating the real skills
of the team.
</RANT>

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:57:17 +0200, Eddie King <xxxeddie_ce@gmx.net>
wrote:

>I enjoy watching the Repair Shop because I am in admiration of the
>skills and craftsmanship of the team, esdpecially the wood- and metal
>workers, the ceramics and art restorers, the horologist and the leather
>lady, and .........

If you like watching skills and craftsmanship, try these on Youtube-

Clickspring
colinfurze
ElectroBOOM
Electronics repair school
EngelsCoachShop
Gosforth Handyman
iPad Rehab
izzy swan
Land Rover Sophie
Louis Rossmann
Mr Carlson's Lab
NorthridgeFix
thomas nagy
WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim
Wintergatan

These are just a few of my subscribed channels that are all about
people restoring, repairing, creating or explaining things, some using
knowledge and skills they have taught themselves. You might notice in
my selection a bias towards electronics, but that's just my choice;
there are many more. I've virtually given up with mainstream TV
because nothing on it compares with Youtube channels like these where
the subject matter is shown properly with the minimum of gimmicks.
(Colin Furze and Electroboom are excused a few gimmicks because
they're clever and funny).

I have a particular admiration for Dave Engels who will spend months
or years restoring some old horse drawn vehicle from very unpromising
starting material that sometimes looks no more than a heap of
driftwood and twisted metal, from which he can't get much more than
the measurements to make a new one from scratch. A few metal fittings
are often all that survives of the original, but the restoration is
always historically accurate and a thing of beauty.

Forget broadcast TV. Save these channels in your subscription list on
Youtube, and enjoy.

Rod.

On 13/10/2021 08:57, Eddie King wrote:

> <RANT>
> What I find extremely irritating, and in recent times seems to have got
> worse is the faux sentimentality and tears which is fuelled by searching
> questions by the presenter. Obviously the producers must think this is
> what people want to see. Well I don't.

Isn't it just the TV trick of inventing another couple of episode from
previously transmitted material. Instead of calling it a repeat the
original transmitted episode is split in two and re-edited to add 10/15
minutes of human interest before prefixing the modified episode with the
word "new".

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Eddie King wrote:

>I enjoy watching the Repair Shop because I am in admiration of the
>skills and craftsmanship of the team, esdpecially the wood- and metal
>workers, the ceramics and art restorers, the horologist and the leather
>lady, and .........

My personal annoyance is the amount of prefiguring. We always
used to have a title sequence of glimpses of projects, but now we
also get details of what is to come up in this episode.

I do my best to skip to the point the first customer actually
walks in, it both saves time and keeps the mystery.

Chris
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chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

In article <sk51qe$qg7$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

>I agree, they show them finishing off the job but it is not like
>Masterchef where are rushing around because supposedly less than a
>minute left.

Or DIY SOS, where they "need" to demolish and rebuild a house
in just 3 days, but it's okay because we have an army of 300
volunteers and tea+biscuits ...

The idea that the restorations they show take "months" to complete is
laughable. They don't take on jobs of that scale, and the repairers
are experts in what they do, so they can asses what is too much
to take on (given budget and time constraints).

Also, as anyone that's ever done any work involving glue, paint,
lacquer, etc. will know -- there are long boring periods of "and
waiting for that to dry/set/cure" which would make amazing
nothing-happens-TV.

I honestly don't think the OP even watches the programme (beyond
a quick glance to find something to complain about) ...
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In article <ismfbkFhbkdU1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> It's TV bullshit because of the reasons you give. Its obvious that
> some of the repairs or restorations take days, weeks or even months to
> complete but often it is mentioned that the owner is due in and it is
> still being worked on. I assume that the producers would wait until the
> repair is totally complete before contacting the owner to return to
> collect it but this is not the impression given.

I can't say that I care about that one way or the other. It's an
interesting programme.

I have noticed that with repairs to some items they do a 'fudged'
comparison by showing the 'before' video with the colour intensity and
contrast wound down, so that the 'now' version looks *much* better. But so
what? What is interesting is *how* they repair things and the results.

Jim

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:14:19 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>The one that I always notice is on the "Repair Shop" the
>repair/restoration is only completed 5 minutes before the owners turn up
>to collect it.
>False deadline bull shit!

and the man who only talks, takes credit for the repairs, but doesn't repair
anything.
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On 13/10/2021 10:42 am, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> In article <ismfbkFhbkdU1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
> <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>> It's TV bullshit because of the reasons you give. Its obvious that
>> some of the repairs or restorations take days, weeks or even months to
>> complete but often it is mentioned that the owner is due in and it is
>> still being worked on. I assume that the producers would wait until the
>> repair is totally complete before contacting the owner to return to
>> collect it but this is not the impression given.
>
> I can't say that I care about that one way or the other. It's an
> interesting programme.
>
> I have noticed that with repairs to some items they do a 'fudged'
> comparison by showing the 'before' video with the colour intensity and
> contrast wound down, so that the 'now' version looks *much* better. But so
> what? What is interesting is *how* they repair things and the results.

Surely, that technique is in common use in all sorts of programming,
including drama, simply to indicate that a temporal flashback is being
screened?

In article <isqj02FaoidU2@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
<jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > I have noticed that with repairs to some items they do a 'fudged'
> > comparison by showing the 'before' video with the colour intensity and
> > contrast wound down, so that the 'now' version looks *much* better.
> > But so what? What is interesting is *how* they repair things and the
> > results.

> Surely, that technique is in common use in all sorts of programming,
> including drama, simply to indicate that a temporal flashback is being
> screened?

Yes. But in the RS I do find it a bit obvious and silly. However it's a
trivial issue that doesn't put me off enjoying the rest.

My main personal criticism of content is that they only do a small amount
of 'electronic' repairs and focus on 'nostalgia' when they do. I think it
would be good to do more 'fairly new' old items given the way makers
abandon them after just a few years. Might help the 'right to repair' effor
as well as raise awarness of how companies build in 'obsolescence' so they
can sell you the next model with a differely styled case.

Jim

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On 13/10/2021 10:42, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> I have noticed that with repairs to some items they do a 'fudged'
> comparison by showing the 'before' video with the colour intensity and
> contrast wound down, so that the 'now' version looks*much* better. But so
> what? What is interesting is*how* they repair things and the results.

Not sure about that, paintings are normally completed by varnishing them
which does enhance to "colour intensity" which is one reason why it is
done (as well as protecting the painting). There is sudden improvement
in colour after it is done.

On 14/10/2021 11:19, Martin wrote:
> and the man who only talks, takes credit for the repairs, but doesn't repair
> anything.

The programme seems to have been partly his idea and he is involved in
several other ones.

I think he acts an organiser working in the background so could be doing
a lot more than shown on camera.

On 13/10/2021 08:57, Eddie King wrote:
>
> I enjoy watching the Repair Shop because I am in admiration of the
> skills and craftsmanship of the team, esdpecially the wood- and metal
> workers, the ceramics and art restorers, the horologist and the leather
> lady, and .........
>
> <RANT>
> What I find extremely irritating, and in recent times seems to have got
> worse is the faux sentimentality and tears which is fuelled by searching
> questions by the presenter. Obviously the producers must think this is
> what people want to see. Well I don't.
>
> Whilst warching I have devoloped a game of counting how many tines the
> phrase "pleased/nice to meet you" is said. Probably another thing the
> produceers insist on.
>
> I really wish the emphasis was put back to demonstrating the real skills
> of the team.
> </RANT>

Which is because the rest of television has descended into the human
interest of seeing someone upset, i.e. drama*, that this faux element
has been added. Completely agree with the OP about the state of
programming, ignoring the topic. I haven't bothered following the Repair
Shop, too much fluff.

When I recognised this in C4's Grand Designs, and what an idiot the
presenter turned out to be, when one of his own creations was featured -
I deleted the whole series from my essential viewing.

* when every single fictional thing presented on TV these days includes
someone crying, assaulted, abused or shot. I give up.

FWIW (Thanks Rod) I'm also subscribed to a lot of technical, DIY, music,
motoring and craft YouTube channels.

12voltvids
80s Boombox Collector
Adam Savage’s Tested
Adrian's Digital Basement
Aging Wheels
AintBigAintClever
Andreas Spiess
Applied Science
Ashley Neal
Atomic Shrimp
AutomatricsMTrack
AvE
B is for Build
backofficeshow
Bad Obsession Motorsport
BBC Click
Ben Eater
Ben Heck Hacks
Ben Tardif
Best Mentalism
Big Car
Big Car old account
bigclivedotcom
Biographics
bitluni
Brodie Robertson
Cameron Gray
Car Factories
Cassette Comeback
Cheddar
citytransportinfo
CJR ELECTRICAL
CNBC
Cody'sLab
ColdFusion
colinfurze
Company Man
Cortina City
CuriousMarc
Dan Wood
Daniele Tartaglia
Dean Greasley
DIY Perks
Dr Jake
Dragons' Den
DrCassette
DRIVETRIBE
Edd China
Edd China's Garage Revival
EEVblog
EEVblog2
element14 presents
ExplainingComputers
FiberNinja
First To Eleven
Fiver
Foxes Afloat
Fran Blanche
frank howarth
furiousdriving
GeekToolkit
Geoff Marshall
goonzquad
Gosforth Handyman
Great Big Story
GTOger
Harry Dwyer
High Peak Autos
Hook
I Like To Make Stuff
iFixit
Jago Hazzard
James Bruton
James Veitch
Jay Bates
Jay Foreman
Jay Leno's Garage
JayEmm on Cars
Jeagar Tech
Jeff Geerling
Jeremy Fielding
Jim Browning
jimmydiresta
Jordan Keyes
Julian Ilett
Kasyan TV
KCRW
KEXP
Kirsten Dirksen
KJDOT
Lauris Beinerts
Lawrence Systems
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels
LGR
Linus Tech Tips
LiveOverflow
Living Big In A Tiny House
Lon.TV
London Grammar
London Planner
Londonist Ltd
Louis Rossmann
Luke Smith
Make it Extreme
Mark Furneaux
Mark Rober
Marques Brownlee
Matthias Wandel
Memphis
MickMake
Microsoft Developer
mikeselectricstuff
Milk'n Blues
Modustrial Maker
MotorTrend Channel
Mrwhosetheboss
National Geographic
NBH-B1
Nostalgia Nerd
NPR Music
OddityArchive
Official Pink Panther
OpenTechLab
Paddy's Diy
Pete And His Bus
Plainly Difficult
Pleasant Green
Proper DIY
Puppet
Ratarossa
Red Stapler
retropowercars
RetroWorkshop
Rust2Rome
salvage rebuilds uk
Samcrac
ScottDotDot
SDG Electronics
Sebi's Random Tech
ServeTheHome
Shaf Rasul
SiliconClassics
Simplilearn
Skill Builder
skraggie
Sorin - DIY Electrical Nerd
Spark
Steve
Strange Parts
Stranger Parts
SuperfastMatt
SurelecTV
Tall Paul Tech
Tavarish
Tech Tangents
TechAltar
TechMagnet
Techmoan
Techno Tim
Technology Connections
TechTablets
The 8-Bit Guy
The B1M
The Cincinnati Zoo & Botanical Garden
The Onion
The Tim Traveller
TheMoonLoungers
This Old House
Thomas Heaton
thomas nagy
Tom Scott
TronicsFix
Ultimate Handyman
Unbox Therapy
Under Dunn
vehcor
Veritasium
Vox
VWestlife's Camcorder Tests & More
WaybackTECH
Wheeler Dealers
Wild West Hackin' Fest
Williston Audio Labs
Wintergatan
WIRED
Wolfgang's Channel
Wrench Every Day

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On 15/10/2021 10:48, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>
> My main personal criticism of content is that they only do a small amount
> of 'electronic' repairs and focus on 'nostalgia' when they do. I think it
> would be good to do more 'fairly new' old items given the way makers
> abandon them after just a few years. Might help the 'right to repair' effor
> as well as raise awarness of how companies build in 'obsolescence' so they
> can sell you the next model with a differely styled case.

In case people missed them, there was a recent mini-series of 3
'Discovery' programmes under the sub-title "Dare To Repair":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002w557/episodes/player?page=2

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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:15:46 +0100
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
>Which is because the rest of television has descended into the human
>interest of seeing someone upset, i.e. drama*, that this faux element

Thats what happens when the running of TV is increasingly taken over by women
and gays. Information goes out the window, its all about emotion. Even former
hard science programs like Horizon (when they bother to show it now) is usually
presented by some fluffy girl talking about life sciences. If you want anything
about physics or maths or any other hard core science forget it, you won't get
it here.

>When I recognised this in C4's Grand Designs, and what an idiot the
>presenter turned out to be, when one of his own creations was featured -

When was that? I rather like grand designs, if only to watch irritatingly smug
over achievers come face to face with reality.

On 16/10/2021 16:31, RadicalRabbit@theburrow.co.uk wrote:
> Thats what happens when the running of TV is increasingly taken over by women
> and gays. Information goes out the window, its all about emotion. Even former
> hard science programs like Horizon (when they bother to show it now) is usually
> presented by some fluffy girl talking about life sciences. If you want anything
> about physics or maths or any other hard core science forget it, you won't get
> it here.

I suspect many of that type of programme are now made with the
international market in mind, to cover their costs so end up very
simplified.

In article <597bbc11d5noise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>I think it
>would be good to do more 'fairly new' old items given the way makers
>abandon them after just a few years.

I was only thinking about this the other day ...

"Today in the Repair Shop, a beloved iPhone 10 with precious memories
is brought back to life ..."

It doesn't fit with the whole "heritage crafts and traditional
methods" ethos they seem to be staying with -- but it would be
funny to see them do a spinoff/special, maybe as a one-off
for Children In Need/Comic Relief.

Metalworker Dom: "So, now we need to weld this 0805 capacitor in
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 15:31:21 -0000 (UTC),
RadicalRabbit@theburrow.co.uk wrote:

>>Which is because the rest of television has descended into the human
>>interest of seeing someone upset, i.e. drama*, that this faux element
>
>Thats what happens when the running of TV is increasingly taken over by women
>and gays. Information goes out the window, its all about emotion.

Thank goodness there remains a little corner of cyberspace where you
can still get away with expressing an honest thought like that (even
if it's only because nobody else knows about it because usenet is all
but forgotten) without one of the New Selfrighteous telling you that
your thoughts are wrong and you've no right to have them.

There seems to be a small but vociferous army of the culturally
ignorant (or in some cases just generally ignorant) who are quick to
denounce what they see as the bigotry and prejudice of others but fail
to recognise their own. It further seems that the smaller the minority
that they claim to represent, the more justified they feel in
demanding that the rest of humanity dances to their tune.

Rod.

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:31:26 +0100
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 15:31:21 -0000 (UTC),
>RadicalRabbit@theburrow.co.uk wrote:
>
>>>Which is because the rest of television has descended into the human
>>>interest of seeing someone upset, i.e. drama*, that this faux element
>>
>>Thats what happens when the running of TV is increasingly taken over by women
>
>>and gays. Information goes out the window, its all about emotion.
>
>Thank goodness there remains a little corner of cyberspace where you
>can still get away with expressing an honest thought like that (even
>if it's only because nobody else knows about it because usenet is all
>but forgotten) without one of the New Selfrighteous telling you that

Thats whay I like about usenet. Most of the trolls and the self righteous have
fucked off to twitter et al and the juvenile wokerati won't even have heard of
it or know how to access it.

>to recognise their own. It further seems that the smaller the minority
>that they claim to represent, the more justified they feel in
>demanding that the rest of humanity dances to their tune.

IMO the problem isn't the screeching hysterical agitators for [insert cause
of the month here], they've been around forever. The real problem is the
spineless bastards in the media and various corporations who piss their pants
the minute some retard complains about a breech of the unwritten woke code and
gives in to them hoping to cover their arses instead of just telling them to
fuck off and go do one.

On 17/10/2021 08:31, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 15:31:21 -0000 (UTC),
> RadicalRabbit@theburrow.co.uk wrote:
>
>>> Which is because the rest of television has descended into the human
>>> interest of seeing someone upset, i.e. drama*, that this faux element

Yes, there's too much too obvious attempts to manipulate the audience
emotionally.

>> Thats what happens when the running of TV is increasingly taken over by women
>> and gays.

Hate speech reported to a b u s e @ a i o e . o r g and Metropolitan
Police.

> Thank goodness there remains a little corner of cyberspace where you
> can still get away with expressing an honest thought like that

There is nothing 'honest' about prejudice, on the contrary, it's a
dishonest failure to judge people as individual humans, and 'thought'
hasn't featured in it, on the contrary, it's a knee-jerk reaction that
hasn't passed anywhere near a rational, thinking brain.

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