On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>
>
> Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car etc.
>
>

it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........

On Sun 27/11/2022 17:03, Rink wrote:
> Op 27-11-2022 om 9:42 schreef Woody:
>> On Sat 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>> Op 19-10-2022 om 15:24 schreef MB:
>>>> On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
>>>>> Couple of comments:
>>>>> 1.  How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
>>>>> its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'?   Surely
>>>>> RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European
>>>>> countries?
>>>>> 2.  Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
>>>>> for future emergencies?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What would the point be?
>>>>
>>>> Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency
>>>> announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start
>>>> moaning.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of
>>>> my radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here
>>>> despite the supposedly "national" coveragee.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish
>>>> start digging up peat to keep their old power stations going!  Do
>>>> they have any peat or coal powered ones left?
>>>>
>>>> I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
>>>> Wave close down.
>>>
>>>
>>> RTL 234 kHz is closing down on 31 decembre 2022.
>>>
>>> After that, there are only:
>>>
>>> 153 Romania
>>> 162 France (no radio, just for clocks)
>>> 171 Marocco
>>> 189 Iceland
>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>> 207 Iceland
>>> 225 Poland
>>> 243 Denmark (only a few hours per day)
>>> 252 Ireland & Algeria
>>>
>>> Mongolia has transmitters on 164. 209 and 227.
>>> Yes, the old, old frequencies.
>>> But most people in Europe cannot receive those.
>>>
>>
>> UK LW broadcast sites on 198KHz are
>> Droitwich (Just north east of M5 J5)
>> Westerglen (Near Falkirk)
>> and Burghead (West of Lossiemouth on N coast of Scotland)
>>
>> Where is the fourth - note broadcast - site?
>>
>
>
> Dartfort Tunnel near London, only 4 Watt.
>

Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a repeater
or filler.

and its Dartford.....

On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>
>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>
>>
>> How does that work in the car?
>
> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
> coin machines. Do keep up!
>

SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.

Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.

Hmmm.........

On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
>> On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>
>>
>> Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car etc.
>>
>>
>
>
> it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........

And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app to
run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?

PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.

On 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
> it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........

It can be difficult enough getting DAB or VHF FM though at least they
are free and once in range of DAB, reception is uninterupted.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>
>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How does that work in the car?
>>
>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>
>
>SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>
>Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
>all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
>curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
>day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
>for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>answer that question.)
>On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>
>Hmmm.........

I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..

On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does that work in the car?
>>>
>>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>>
>>
>> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>>
>> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>> answer that question.)
>> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>>
>> Hmmm.........
>
> I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
> that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
> brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..

And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
weren't interested.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does that work in the car?
>>>>
>>>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>>>
>>>
>>> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>>>
>>> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>>> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>>> answer that question.)
>>> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>>> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>>>
>>> Hmmm.........
>>
>> I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
>> that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
>> brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
>
>And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
>weren't interested.

I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
(that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
would do.

On 27/11/2022 19:22, Woody wrote:
> On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
>> On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
>>> On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
>
>
> And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app to
> run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?

My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment
console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..

Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
sounds apps etc

> PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
> several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.

Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM from https://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans

30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!

There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.

SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 19:22, Woody wrote:
>> On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
>>> On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
>>
>>
>> And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app to
>> run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?
>
> My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment
> console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
> factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
>
> Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
> sounds apps etc
>
>
>> PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
>> several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.
>
> Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM from https://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
>
> 30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
>
> There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.
>

Smarty use the Three network. This has the worst coverage out of urban
areas of any of the networks. Anyway, if every car radio started using the
mobile network instead of the conventional means the mobile phone network
would collapse under the load.

On Sun 27/11/2022 21:47, Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does that work in the car?
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>>>>
>>>> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
>>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
>>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>>>> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
>>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
>>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>>>> answer that question.)
>>>> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>>>> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm.........
>>>
>>> I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
>>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
>>> that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
>>> brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
>>
>> And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
>> weren't interested.
>
> I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
> (that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
> uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
> office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
> outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
> take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
> would do.

Did contact CS - same response, talk to store. Have already jumped off
their train. Pity as they sometimes have good bargains in non-foods and
some good wines. Still we have another Lidl within range and two Lidls.

Did you know: Aldi do filtered (i.e. long life) milk in all types but
Lidl only do it in green and red top, not in full fat blue top.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 08:08:20 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Sun 27/11/2022 21:47, Scott wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
>>>>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does that work in the car?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>>>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>>>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>>>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
>>>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
>>>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>>>>> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>>>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
>>>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
>>>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>>>>> answer that question.)
>>>>> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>>>>> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm.........
>>>>
>>>> I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
>>>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
>>>> that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
>>>> brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
>>>
>>> And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
>>> weren't interested.
>>
>> I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
>> (that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
>> uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
>> office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
>> outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
>> take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
>> would do.
>
>Did contact CS - same response, talk to store. Have already jumped off
>their train. Pity as they sometimes have good bargains in non-foods and
>some good wines. Still we have another Lidl within range and two Lidls.

Could you be more bold and write to their real head office in Germany?
I once had a problem with Oral B and got nowhere with Procter and
Gamble in the UK. I emailed the address in Germany and it was sorted
within days.
>
>Did you know: Aldi do filtered (i.e. long life) milk in all types but
>Lidl only do it in green and red top, not in full fat blue top.

No, but I only drink semi-skimmed (green) despite being a Rangers
supporter :-)

In article <tm03gj$1mvvs$1@dont-email.me>,
usenet.tweed@gmail.com says...
>

> >>
> > Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
> >
>
> How does that work in the car?

Before I set off on a long journey I download a selection
of podcasts from BBC Sounds onto my phone. In the car, via
the bluetooth connection, click the app on the phone then
drive off controlling the volume and next-track via my
steering wheel buttons. I find the 6 Music podcasts much
better to listen to than the live DAB, as there is less DJ
chatter.

On 28/11/2022 08:08, Woody wrote:
> On Sun 27/11/2022 21:47, Scott wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only
>>>>>>>>> continue on
>>>>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does that work in the car?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>>>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
>>>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days
>>>>> ago,
>>>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles
>>>>> had
>>>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
>>>>> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
>>>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time
>>>>> and
>>>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash
>>>>> transaction
>>>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
>>>>> answer that question.)
>>>>> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
>>>>> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm.........
>>>>
>>>> I think that is the correct legal position.  If you are making a claim
>>>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
>>>> that the other side supplied the goods.  I would argue for an own
>>>> brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
>>>
>>> And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
>>> weren't interested.
>>
>> I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
>> (that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
>> uneconomic to pursue.  I would contact customer services at the head
>> office and see what happens.  You could always stand with a placard
>> outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose.  Alternatively,
>> take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
>> would do.
>
> Did contact CS - same response, talk to store. Have already jumped off
> their train. Pity as they sometimes have good bargains in non-foods and
> some good wines. Still we have another Lidl within range and two Lidls.
>
> Did you know: Aldi do filtered (i.e. long life) milk in all types but
> Lidl only do it in green and red top, not in full fat blue top.
>

With milk "long life" usually means UHT. I've never seen the term for
filtered milk. And with filtered milk a complication is how it was stored.

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 27/11/2022 22:48, SH wrote:
> My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment
> console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
> factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
>
> Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
> sounds apps etc
>
>
> Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM fromhttps://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
>
> 30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
>
> There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.

My car has WiFi and I could link to 4G if I wished but is the reception
as reliable as DAB - a few years ago I went down to Cornwall and held
DAB reception nearly all the way from Tarbet to Falmouth (including
going through mid-Wales).

There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change
station.

On 28/11/2022 09:38, Alistair Tyrrell wrote:
> Before I set off on a long journey I download a selection
> of podcasts from BBC Sounds onto my phone. In the car, via
> the bluetooth connection, click the app on the phone then
> drive off controlling the volume and next-track via my
> steering wheel buttons. I find the 6 Music podcasts much
> better to listen to than the live DAB, as there is less DJ
> chatter.

Depends on the presenter, many camp ones on Radio 2 that I cannot stand
but still a few good ones left. That is why I need to be able to change
station.

I have a USB stick with a large number of my CDs that I can set to cycle
around at random though much of the time I leave "Dante's Prayer" on repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EACck1M7IYg

On 28/11/2022 10:16, MB wrote:
>
> There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change
> station.

If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)

On 28/11/2022 10:33, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/11/2022 10:16, MB wrote:
>>
>> There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change
>> station.
>
> If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
> not condoling the practice BTW)
>
>

my in-car entertainment console can mirror the smartphone screen via
bluetooth so you actually use the touch sensitive screen on the ICE
rather than on the phone....

So if one is allowed to change the volume or change "station" one should
be OK for chainging the audeio stream on BBC sounds or spotify

NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
amount of concentration needed! But hands free telephony is supported
and as far as I know, that is road legal.

On 28/11/2022 10:33, Mark Carver wrote:
> If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
> not condoling the practice BTW)

Just need police driving past and say he saw you touch your phone -
don't forget they have people in HGVs that can look down into your car.

Or a certain annoying Radio 2 presenter could cycle past with his helmet
cameras.

On 28/11/2022 10:44, SH wrote:
> NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
> amount of concentration needed! But hands free telephony is supported
> and as far as I know, that is road legal.

I don't think it is specifically "road legal" but if a police officer
says he did not think you were in full control of your car and he saw
you touching your phone ....

On 28/11/2022 11:40, MB wrote:
> On 28/11/2022 10:44, SH wrote:
>> NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
>> amount of concentration needed!  But hands free telephony is supported
>> and as far as I know, that is road legal.
>
>
>
> I don't think it is specifically "road legal" but if a police officer
> says he did not think you were in full control of your car and he saw
> you touching your phone ....
>
>
>

I am talking about touching the touch screen of the In car entertainment
console, not the phone smartscreen!

(THE ICE can mirror the phone's display on its ICE screen!

On 28/11/2022 11:38, MB wrote:
> On 28/11/2022 10:33, Mark Carver wrote:
>> If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
>> not condoling the practice BTW)
>
> Just need police driving past and say he saw you touch your phone -
> don't forget they have people in HGVs that can look down into your car.
>
> Or a certain annoying Radio 2 presenter could cycle past with his
> helmet cameras.

If Vine has a camera on his helmet, it's possibly not going to be at
head height.

On 28/11/2022 11:45, SH wrote:
> On 28/11/2022 11:40, MB wrote:
>> On 28/11/2022 10:44, SH wrote:
>>> NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
>>> amount of concentration needed!  But hands free telephony is supported
>>> and as far as I know, that is road legal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it is specifically "road legal" but if a police officer
>> says he did not think you were in full control of your car and he saw
>> you touching your phone ....
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> I am talking about touching the touch screen of the In car
> entertainment console, not the phone smartscreen!
>
> (THE ICE can mirror the phone's display on its ICE screen!
Yes, Android CarPlay etc.....

On 27/11/2022 19:19, Woody wrote:
> On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
>>>>>> 198 UK (4 transmitters)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC should just tell the government that they will only
>>>>> continue on
>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
>>>>>
>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How does that work in the car?
>>
>> Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
>> coin machines. Do keep up!
>>
>
> SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
>
> Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
> because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
> answer that question.)
> On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
> back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
If it's already "gone off" I don't see how it matters when it was
bought. I suppose they might claim you haven't stored it in the fridge
since you bought it, but a receipt won't show that.

I found in the summer that milk and cream often went off before the "use
by" date: presumably it wasn't transported and stored at the correct
temperature. Perhaps the delivery was left in the Sun before it was
taken in.

--
Max Demian

On 27/11/2022 22:48, SH wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 19:22, Woody wrote:
>> On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
>>> On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
>>>> On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
>>>>> Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.

>>>> Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
>>>> etc.

>>> it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........

>> And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app
>> to run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?
>
> My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment
> console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
> factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
>
> Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
> sounds apps etc

>> PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
>> several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.
>
> Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM from
> https://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
>
> 30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
>
> There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.

Yes, "just £10 a month for this; £10 a month for that". Soon mounts up,
mostly for pointless tat.

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Max Demian