On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 12:57:18 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:

>On 23/10/2021 12:55, ogden wrote:
>> Tim wrote:

>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>>
>> Does that have a misleading or misappropriated name then? Or is it actually ice cream and chocolate sauce or something?
>>
>It was in a recently published survey of traditional British recipes
>that people when asked didn't believe that they were true.

Still missing the point, but anyway, I don't think many Brits wouldn't
be aware of the existence of the dish, even if they've never tried it.

It's right up there in the "local speciality" stakes, trying to make
the most of disgusting bits of animal, based on the fact that some
other bugger's eaten all the edible bits.

And like most of them it beggars belief that anyone would still choose
to eat it. Like most 'acquired tastes' most of the acquisition process
is about convincing your brain that you're actually going to do so.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 23/10/2021 18:14, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:09:05 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:13:52 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/21/2021 5:15 AM, Champ wrote:
>>>>>> <fx: tumbleweed>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's not my fault. As a furriner, I'm embarrassed to be in the top ten.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> + 1
>>>> :wq
>>>
>>>
>>> Hah. I've been doing that a lot recently. Often in Notepad. Followed
>>> by Ctrl-Z or backspaces.
>>
>> Every once in a blue moon, some of the old Wordstar ctrl-key
>> combinations creeps into my noggin. Probaly 35 years since I last
>> used it.
>
> In my case, I was using Vi last week.
>

I frequently use vi. I discovered it's not installed by default in a
docker container, this surprised me.

--
/Simon

On 10/23/2021 10:14 AM, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:09:05 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:13:52 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/21/2021 5:15 AM, Champ wrote:
>>>>>> <fx: tumbleweed>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's not my fault. As a furriner, I'm embarrassed to be in the top ten.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> + 1
>>>> :wq
>>>
>>>
>>> Hah. I've been doing that a lot recently. Often in Notepad. Followed
>>> by Ctrl-Z or backspaces.
>>
>> Every once in a blue moon, some of the old Wordstar ctrl-key
>> combinations creeps into my noggin. Probaly 35 years since I last
>> used it.
>
> In my case, I was using Vi last week.
>

But did she complain?

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

Ace wrote:

> >>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)

> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
> of the dish

No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).

Eating it, as you say, is another matter.

--
Simon

On 25/10/2021 14:55 sweller penned these words:
> Ace wrote:
>
>>>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>
>> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
>> of the dish
>
> No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).

Tried it once, not a fan. I heard it was more or less dying out as a meat but an
influx of folks from Ethiopia has led to a resurgence due to its polarity there.

> Eating it, as you say, is another matter.

I'll eat most stuff, give brain a miss for weird squeamish reasons, tripe,
chickens feet, fish stomach all not worth the bother.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:46:34 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>> wessie wrote:
>> >yes, ogden
>> >he's obsessed with French Tacos
>>
>> What's a "French" taco? I'm only familiar with the mexican type

>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/move-over-mcdonalds-french-taco-poised-for-global-expansion

Wow. Not sure whether to be impressed or appalled

From the article you linked:
'It was described by one French food writer who couldn’t finish one as
a “hymn to junk food”.'
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Turby wrote:

>> Those are burritos, not tacos.

>if that gets you excited, you're going to lose your mind over prairie
>oysters, bombay duck, welsh rabbit, sweetbreads and spotted dick.

<applause>

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 20:10:00 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/22/2021 12:03 PM, ogden wrote:
>> Either way, "wrong" is a bit bold when you're shunting words across language boundaries.
>(Champ needs _something_ to read.)

And don't think I'm not grateful!
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 25 Oct 2021 06:55:15 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>> >>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>
>> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
>> of the dish

>No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).

That's what he said, although the number of negatives made me scan it
a few times to get the meaning

>Eating it, as you say, is another matter.

Quite so
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:50:00 +0100, siwilson
<siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>I frequently use vi. I discovered it's not installed by default in a
>docker container, this surprised me.

Blimey - you're still doing genuine proper IT work, then?!?!
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:05:46 -0700 (PDT), Stephen Packer
<stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > I've had to do real work, including going into town on trains and
>> > > the tube and shiznit.
>> >
>> > Eww
>> >
>> > Sucks to be you

>> I like trains.

I'm suew driving them is a whole different experience

>So do I (under normal conditions) but I suspect Champ's comment is more
>about 'work' than trains.

Mostly, yes, but also about commuting. I mean, I could enjoy a train
journey as much as the next man under certain circumstance, but the
7:47 into Paddington isn't one of those circumstances, for me, I'm
afraid. YMMV
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
news:hn6dnghu16c34c5pq4u0rtvo3mjg12sdcr@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:46:34 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Champ wrote:
>>> wessie wrote:
>>> >yes, ogden
>>> >he's obsessed with French Tacos
>>>
>>> What's a "French" taco? I'm only familiar with the mexican type
>
>>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/move-over-mcdonalds-frenc
>>h-taco-poised-for-global-expansion
>
> Wow. Not sure whether to be impressed or appalled
>

isn't junk food all about the dichotomy between pleasure and guilt?

> From the article you linked:
> 'It was described by one French food writer who couldn�t finish one as
> a �hymn to junk food�.'

On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 11:03:05 AM UTC+1, Boots wrote:
> On 25/10/2021 14:55 sweller penned these words:
> > Ace wrote:
> >
> >>>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
> >
> >> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
> >> of the dish
> >
> > No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).
> Tried it once, not a fan. I heard it was more or less dying out as a meat but an
> influx of folks from Ethiopia has led to a resurgence due to its polarity there.
> > Eating it, as you say, is another matter.
> I'll eat most stuff, give brain a miss for weird squeamish reasons, tripe,
> chickens feet, fish stomach all not worth the bother.

Oooooh. I love tripe, especially grilled on the BBQ and heavily seasoned with Korean BBQ rub.
Also a big fan of chicken feet soup, proper lush when you get a good one.

Champ wrote:

> >
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/move-over-mcdonalds-french-taco-poised-for-global-expansion
>
> Wow. Not sure whether to be impressed or appalled

I was impressed. Not sure if it was in a good way.

--
Simon

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:52:46 +0800, Boots
<news@millhouse-communications.co.uk> wrote:

>On 25/10/2021 14:55 sweller penned these words:
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>>>>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>>
>>> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
>>> of the dish
>>
>> No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).

My mother cooked it for my dad as a "treat", what with him being a
norvern munkey, and vowed never to do it again.

Tried it once, in France, and if I ever fancy bath-mat Nicoise again,
I know where to go.
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>And if that gets excited, you're going to lose your mind over prairie oysters,
>bombay duck, welsh rabbit, sweetbreads and spotted dick.

Docker's omelette?
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On 24/10/2021 16:38, Ace wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 12:57:18 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 23/10/2021 12:55, ogden wrote:
>>> Tim wrote:
>
>>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>>>
>>> Does that have a misleading or misappropriated name then? Or is it actually ice cream and chocolate sauce or something?
>>>
>> It was in a recently published survey of traditional British recipes
>> that people when asked didn't believe that they were true.
>
> Still missing the point, but anyway, I don't think many Brits wouldn't
> be aware of the existence of the dish, even if they've never tried it.
>
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bangers-and-mash-mystery-young-adults-british-food-staples-72j67xsmd

On 25/10/2021 15:37, sweller wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>
>>>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/move-over-mcdonalds-french-taco-poised-for-global-expansion
>>
>> Wow. Not sure whether to be impressed or appalled
>
> I was impressed. Not sure if it was in a good way.
>
While not about junk food as such, this made me feed good about my
eating habits.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/sep/26/food-myths-busted-dairy-salt-steak-swedish-study-science-health-advice

On 25/10/2021 10:52, Boots wrote:
> On 25/10/2021 14:55 sweller penned these words:
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>>>>>> You forgot tripe and onions ;-)
>>
>>> I don't think many Brits wouldn't be aware of the existence
>>> of the dish
>>
>> No, I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it (tripe).
>
> Tried it once, not a fan. I heard it was more or less dying out as a meat but an
> influx of folks from Ethiopia has led to a resurgence due to its polarity there.
>
>> Eating it, as you say, is another matter.
>
> I'll eat most stuff, give brain a miss for weird squeamish reasons, tripe,
> chickens feet, fish stomach all not worth the bother.
>

One of the few dishes I couldn't stomach[1]

When I lived in Spain.

[1]yes, yes

--
/Simon

On 25/10/2021 13:04, Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:50:00 +0100, siwilson
> <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I frequently use vi. I discovered it's not installed by default in a
>> docker container, this surprised me.
>
> Blimey - you're still doing genuine proper IT work, then?!?!
>

Well, yes, and no. This isn't work related. Believe it or not, it's
motorcycling related. I'm attempting to get the club into at least the
20th century. I'm setting up a database for the results along with a
reporting tool and everything to sort out the points etc.

Getting stirling support from a certain Mr. Fisher.

--
/Simon

On 10/25/2021 4:58 AM, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Turby wrote:
>
>>> Those are burritos, not tacos.
>
>> if that gets you excited, you're going to lose your mind over prairie
>> oysters, bombay duck, welsh rabbit, sweetbreads and spotted dick.
>
> <applause>
>
Oh, it hardly gets me excited. The only meat I eat comes from the sea,
so I usually ignore all those weird dishes. But Mexican cuisine is a
part of life over here, and the difference between a taco and a burrito
is really pretty simple. It would be like calling a bowl of chowder a pizza.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:50:00 +0100, siwilson
<siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 23/10/2021 18:14, Pipl wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:09:05 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:13:52 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>>>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/21/2021 5:15 AM, Champ wrote:
>>>>>>> <fx: tumbleweed>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not my fault. As a furriner, I'm embarrassed to be in the top ten.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> + 1
>>>>> :wq
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hah. I've been doing that a lot recently. Often in Notepad. Followed
>>>> by Ctrl-Z or backspaces.
>>>
>>> Every once in a blue moon, some of the old Wordstar ctrl-key
>>> combinations creeps into my noggin. Probaly 35 years since I last
>>> used it.
>>
>> In my case, I was using Vi last week.
>>
>
>I frequently use vi. I discovered it's not installed by default in a
>docker container, this surprised me.

Things like Docker and containers etc. are way above my pay grade and
even having never used them, their very esistence and systems like
them was one of several reasons (another big one was Jira) why I spent
loads of money trying to change career, even if it meant a
fifteen-plus grand pay cut.

Yet here I am, using vi (which I quite like in small doses) and
updating Jira tickets (which I don't).

--

-Pip

On 23/10/2021 18:14, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 07:09:05 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:13:52 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/21/2021 5:15 AM, Champ wrote:
>>>>>> <fx: tumbleweed>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's not my fault. As a furriner, I'm embarrassed to be in the top ten.
>>>>
>>>> + 1
>>>> :wq
>>>
>>> Hah. I've been doing that a lot recently. Often in Notepad. Followed
>>> by Ctrl-Z or backspaces.
>>
>> Every once in a blue moon, some of the old Wordstar ctrl-key
>> combinations creeps into my noggin. Probaly 35 years since I last
>> used it.
>
> In my case, I was using Vi last week.

I was using it this morning. Along with Textpad, Word, and a shitty
editor called ted. I keep getting the wrong keypress when I want to
search for text (vi - /, Textpad - Ctrl-F, Word the same, ted - F1
because using F1 for what every other application does, help, would be
ridiculously useful and consistent).

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:59:54 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Those are burritos, not tacos.
>>
>>> if that gets you excited, you're going to lose your mind over prairie
>>> oysters, bombay duck, welsh rabbit, sweetbreads and spotted dick.

>Oh, it hardly gets me excited. The only meat I eat comes from the sea,
>so I usually ignore all those weird dishes. But Mexican cuisine is a
>part of life over here, and the difference between a taco and a burrito
>is really pretty simple. It would be like calling a bowl of chowder a pizza.

Hardly. It might better be likened to taking the Spanish word for an
omelette and using it to refer instead to a flat bread made from wheat
or corn... who'd do a thing like that, I wonder?

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:45:31 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:

>While not about junk food as such, this made me feed good about my
>eating habits.
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/sep/26/food-myths-busted-dairy-salt-steak-swedish-study-science-health-advice

Hah. Seems to reflect the sort of dietary advice that I grew up with.
And indeed that I still findamentally eat by.

Odd though that the writer thinks that the advice this meta-study
seems to contradoct are "post-war" ideas. I mean, yes, of course
they're after WW2, but by 30 or 40 years; most immediately post-war
wisdom was focussed on getting adequate amounts of protein, calcium
and other specific nutrients thought to be lacking in the impoverished
economic and still-rationed food supplies of that time.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/