On 03 May 2022 at 20:39:18 BST, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

> On 03/05/2022 14:56, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
>>>>> I've known lots of gay men who've been nice but only two that have been
>>>>> nasty. However the nastiness of the two easily outweighed the niceness
>>>>> of all the others! Mind you, they were a nasty pair, they really were.
>>>>> Would have spoilt another couple.
>>>> Interesting. If you met a straight couple who were nasty, would you also
>>>> transfer that onto all other straight couples?
>>
>>> Sorry, I don't follow. Are you trying to imply some sort of
>>> irrationality on my part from my whimsical remark?
>>
>> Yes. You stated the 'nastiness' of that couple outweighed the 'niceness'
>> of the others. Which means you must decide about a group of people as a
>> whole. Not as individuals.
>
> There's no reason why we shouldn't generalise about groups of people. Or
> form a general opinion about members of the group, as an average.
>
>>>>
>>>>> I think in general that growing up and finding that you're in a
>>>>> minority, and probably a persecuted minority at that, helps a person
>>>>> develop compassion. In most cases.
>>>> Really? No racial minorities born in this country are racists either?
>>>>
>>> Again, you take my suggestion that a factor can influence a person's
>>> development to mean that it can dictate it.
>>> I said, "HELPS a person
>>>>> develop compassion. IN MOST CASES."
>>
>>> Your logic is as usual flawed.
>>
>> Scattering around 'probably' and 'most' in such a way shows logic hasn't
>> entered into it.
>>
> It's the thing to do when you're generalising. Not everything is black
> and white.

To Our Dave it is.

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On 03/05/2022 20:44, williamwright wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 15:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> Scargill was very chatty off camera, and the kids asked their own
>> questions.  Wish that had been recorded as it was far better than the
>> actual prog - and showed Scargill in a totally different light from his
>> meja one.
>
> I've chatted with him and found him perfectly agreeable.
>

I have met him. He did not like me.

On Tue, 03 May 2022 20:42:09 +0100, williamwright wrote:

> She was probably a bloke then.

She was the shopkeeper's daughter and was more feminine in her younger
years.

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williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote

>> Scargill was very chatty off camera, and the kids asked their own
>> questions. Wish that had been recorded as it was far better than the
>> actual prog - and showed Scargill in a totally different light from his
>> meja one.

> I've chatted with him and found him perfectly agreeable.

But what he was attempting with Maggie wasnt.

On Wed, 04 May 2022 05:44:40 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 03/05/2022 16:01, The Other John wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2022 15:11:05 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>
>>> When I was at school, had a pal whose mother was a widow. Husband
>>> killed
>>> at the end of WW2. Her sister lived with them. Both women worked as
>>> teachers.
>>>
>>> Many years later, the sister died. Only then did it become public she
>>> wasn't her sister. Of course their relationship could have been
>>> platonic.
>> In the last year of my primary school in 1952 we had a woman teacher
>> with
>> very short hair, wore a tweed jacket and a tie, smoked a pipe and rode a
>> motorbike. She had a 'friend' who worked in a local shop who looked
>> exactly the same. I can't understand why 2 women acting like men
>> fancied
>> each other. I thought opposites attract?

> I had a 'bachelor' great aunt.

We used to call them "maiden aunts" and I had one.

> Midwife to our family actually. WWI VAG, magistrate, didn't smoke, but
> very much 'Miss Marple'.

> Lived with a 'companion' of the female persuasion.

Mine too, in a commercial operation, one of the last of
the commercial lending libraries which also sold other
stuff like fancy crockery and ornaments etc.

> Not unattractive and very intelligent.

> Probably frightened all the Edwardian men to death...

Neither of mine were like that.

> ...its not necessarily about sex, its often just two people cohabiting
> for company, who happen to get on with the same sex better than the
> opposite.

And more socially acceptable to the middle class in those days.
I am not aware that they had any male friends except family at all.

On 03/05/2022 20:17, ARW wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 18:45, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> In article <t4rg49$f2k$1@dont-email.me>,
>>     The Other John <nomail@home.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 May 2022 15:11:05 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>
>>>> When I was at school, had a pal whose mother was a widow. Husband
>>>> killed
>>>> at the end of WW2. Her sister lived with them. Both women worked as
>>>> teachers.
>>>>
>>>> Many years later, the sister died. Only then did it become public she
>>>> wasn't her sister. Of course their relationship could have been
>>>> platonic.
>>
>>> In the last year of my primary school in 1952 we had a woman teacher
>>> with
>>> very short hair, wore a tweed jacket and a tie, smoked a pipe and rode a
>>> motorbike.  She had a 'friend' who worked in a local shop who looked
>>> exactly the same.  I can't understand why 2 women acting like men
>>> fancied
>>> each other.  I thought opposites attract?
>>
>> It could be wearing men's clothing was simply more practical. Would you
>> find a dress the best thing to wear while working etc?
>>
>
>
> Come on Dave. She was teaching students. I could do that in a dress.

No pics please, the mental image is bad enough.

>
> All the fiddly bits are when you go for a piss and the bottom off the
> dress ends up in urinal and you have to dry it off with the hand drier.

On Tue, 3 May 2022 13:17:23 +0100, Andrew
<Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:

>The Japanese and South Koreans killed off the UK mass-market
>ship building industry, not Mrs T. Just look at the utter
>debacle of the Ferguson Yard in Glasgow where those two
>Cal Mac ferries, being built, are years behind schedule and
>about 3 times over budget.

Port Glasgow, not Glasgow. Completely different place. Other than
that, you're right.

On 01/05/2022 20:20, Rod Speed wrote:
> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>>>>>> On 01/05/2022 04:10, ARW wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:23, GB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:15, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 08:31, ARW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-61249974
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Useless - not one of them said "That's going to cost you":-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A motor factors near me employed only female drivers for a
>>>>>>>>> while, then a few men applied for driving job. They were forced
>>>>>>>>> to change their policy and now employ a mix.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder how many men will start applying for job at this
>>>>>>>>> garage, and fail, with the expected consequences?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did wonder whether it's illegal for them to refuse to take on
>>>>>>>> a male mechanic. They are probably too savvy to be caught by
>>>>>>>> that, though. They don't need to give a reason for rejecting
>>>>>>>> him, after all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a company called Lady cabs, which only has female
>>>>>>>> drivers. I can see a market need (or perceived need) for that,
>>>>>>>> so maybe they can reasonably discriminate in taking on drivers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder how my local brothel gets away with only employing women?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do give details!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably in much the same way there are some professions where
>>>>>> equality act allows for inequality. I think toilet cleaners is one.
>>>
>>>>>  Nope, ours have the same cleaners do both.
>>>
>>>> Then once again you're an out of touch ignoramus.
>>>  We'll see...
>>>
>>>> An employer may choose female cleaners to clean female toilets. It
>>>> is regarded as a "Genuine Occupational Requirement" "for reasons of
>>>> privacy and decency" within the UK Equality 2010.
>>>  Irrelevant to the fact that an employer is free to do it the other way.
>>>
>>>>> They prop the outside door open to make it clear that it is being
>>>>> cleaned.
>>>>
>>>> Quite, but doesn't prevent an employer specifying a female cleaner
>>>> to clean female toilets.
>>>  Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ?
>>
>> Remind us who was the ignoramus that said "nope" to "there are some
>> professions where equality act allows for inequality".
>
> Toilet cleaning isn't a profession, fuckwit.

Whereas I guess you are more familiar with the profession of the
soliciting variety.

Are you not aware that in UK English parlance a profession is a paid
occupation, otherwise it is a hobby?

In article <t4rrmd$v4p$1@dont-email.me>,
The Other John <nomail@home.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2022 18:45:26 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> > It could be wearing men's clothing was simply more practical. Would you
> > find a dress the best thing to wear while working etc?

> It wasn't a question of practicality, they were both trying to look like
> men. The one in the shop even had a gruff voice.

You say they were trying to look like men. They could equally well just be
dressing for comfort, since they weren't out to impress men.

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In article <t4rv4h$q9$1@dont-email.me>,
ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > It could be wearing men's clothing was simply more practical. Would you
> > find a dress the best thing to wear while working etc?
> >

> Come on Dave. She was teaching students. I could do that in a dress.

But where do you keep all the bits you'd normally have with you? A
handbag? Something else to get lost?

> All the fiddly bits are when you go for a piss and the bottom off the
> dress ends up in urinal and you have to dry it off with the hand drier.

That's what your teeth are for. ;-)

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On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 16:01:32 UTC+1, The Other John wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2022 15:11:05 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
> > When I was at school, had a pal whose mother was a widow. Husband killed
> > at the end of WW2. Her sister lived with them. Both women worked as
> > teachers.
> >
> > Many years later, the sister died. Only then did it become public she
> > wasn't her sister. Of course their relationship could have been
> > platonic.
> In the last year of my primary school in 1952 we had a woman teacher with
> very short hair, wore a tweed jacket and a tie, smoked a pipe and rode a
> motorbike. She had a 'friend' who worked in a local shop who looked
> exactly the same. I can't understand why 2 women acting like men fancied
> each other. I thought opposites attract?

That's not always true.
Not with gravity.
People do seem to get along better if they like similar things rather than opposite things.
What if one person like cold places and the other hot places, one person supported everton the other liverpool.
Same with Man U and Man C. Then there's religions.
I thought I was being chatted up by a rather attractve girl, long curly hair, sexy accent beautiful eyes , who sat down next to me on the bus.
As she sat down she said "would you like to come and see me", and handed me a flyer, with the words God, Jesus and church on it.
I said I don't believe in that. I believe in Captain Kirk, she said who's that I said in a suprised voice Capain James T kirk of the starship Enterprise.
She said I don't know who that is I'm lithuanian. I explained that captain kirk will be born in the future in 2233 and then go back in time to around 2000 years ago,
he'll meet this cute virgin called mary, she will asked him "what is this this called love" he'll show her, scotty will then have fixed the transporters
and beam him back up. It's just a basic temporal parodox where our past was created in our furture.
She then got up and sat next to someone else. :-(

>
> --
> TOJ.

Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
>>>>>>> On 01/05/2022 04:10, ARW wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:23, GB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:15, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 08:31, ARW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-61249974
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Useless - not one of them said "That's going to cost you":-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A motor factors near me employed only female drivers for a
>>>>>>>>>> while, then a few men applied for driving job. They were forced
>>>>>>>>>> to change their policy and now employ a mix.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how many men will start applying for job at this
>>>>>>>>>> garage, and fail, with the expected consequences?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did wonder whether it's illegal for them to refuse to take on
>>>>>>>>> a male mechanic. They are probably too savvy to be caught by
>>>>>>>>> that, though. They don't need to give a reason for rejecting
>>>>>>>>> him, after all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a company called Lady cabs, which only has female
>>>>>>>>> drivers. I can see a market need (or perceived need) for that,
>>>>>>>>> so maybe they can reasonably discriminate in taking on drivers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder how my local brothel gets away with only employing women?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do give details!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably in much the same way there are some professions where
>>>>>>> equality act allows for inequality. I think toilet cleaners is one.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, ours have the same cleaners do both.
>>>>
>>>>> Then once again you're an out of touch ignoramus.
>>>> We'll see...
>>>>
>>>>> An employer may choose female cleaners to clean female toilets. It
>>>>> is regarded as a "Genuine Occupational Requirement" "for reasons of
>>>>> privacy and decency" within the UK Equality 2010.
>>>> Irrelevant to the fact that an employer is free to do it the other
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>>>> They prop the outside door open to make it clear that it is being
>>>>>> cleaned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite, but doesn't prevent an employer specifying a female cleaner
>>>>> to clean female toilets.
>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ?
>>>
>>> Remind us who was the ignoramus that said "nope" to "there are some
>>> professions where equality act allows for inequality".
>> Toilet cleaning isn't a profession, fuckwit.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

> Are you not aware that in UK English parlance a profession is a paid
> occupation, otherwise it is a hobby?

Even more pathetic that you usually manage and that's saying something...

Have fun listing even a single dictionary that says anything like that.

That word is actually WORK, fuckwit.

On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 12:02:06 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <t4rv4h$q9$1...@dont-email.me>,
> ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > It could be wearing men's clothing was simply more practical. Would you
> > > find a dress the best thing to wear while working etc?
> > >
>
>
> > Come on Dave. She was teaching students. I could do that in a dress.
> But where do you keep all the bits you'd normally have with you? A
> handbag? Something else to get lost?

Wonder if gucci or whoever make anything suitable.
Have to get something to go with ones eyes and nails.

> > All the fiddly bits are when you go for a piss and the bottom off the
> > dress ends up in urinal and you have to dry it off with the hand drier.
> That's what your teeth are for. ;-)

Our male toilets don't have urinals, and just because you're a women doesn't mean you have to wear a long dress,
a nice little black number will be ok.

>
> --
> *Honk if you love peace and quiet*
> Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
> To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 15:37:38 UTC+1, rod.sp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed wrote
> >>>> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed wrote
> >>>>>> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
> >>>>>>> On 01/05/2022 04:10, ARW wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:23, GB wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:15, Fredxx wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 08:31, ARW wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-61249974
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Useless - not one of them said "That's going to cost you":-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A motor factors near me employed only female drivers for a
> >>>>>>>>>> while, then a few men applied for driving job. They were forced
> >>>>>>>>>> to change their policy and now employ a mix.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder how many men will start applying for job at this
> >>>>>>>>>> garage, and fail, with the expected consequences?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I did wonder whether it's illegal for them to refuse to take on
> >>>>>>>>> a male mechanic. They are probably too savvy to be caught by
> >>>>>>>>> that, though. They don't need to give a reason for rejecting
> >>>>>>>>> him, after all.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is a company called Lady cabs, which only has female
> >>>>>>>>> drivers. I can see a market need (or perceived need) for that,
> >>>>>>>>> so maybe they can reasonably discriminate in taking on drivers?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I wonder how my local brothel gets away with only employing women?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do give details!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Probably in much the same way there are some professions where
> >>>>>>> equality act allows for inequality. I think toilet cleaners is one.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Nope, ours have the same cleaners do both.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Then once again you're an out of touch ignoramus.
> >>>> We'll see...
> >>>>
> >>>>> An employer may choose female cleaners to clean female toilets. It
> >>>>> is regarded as a "Genuine Occupational Requirement" "for reasons of
> >>>>> privacy and decency" within the UK Equality 2010.
> >>>> Irrelevant to the fact that an employer is free to do it the other
> >>>> way.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> They prop the outside door open to make it clear that it is being
> >>>>>> cleaned.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quite, but doesn't prevent an employer specifying a female cleaner
> >>>>> to clean female toilets.
> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ?
> >>>
> >>> Remind us who was the ignoramus that said "nope" to "there are some
> >>> professions where equality act allows for inequality".
> >> Toilet cleaning isn't a profession, fuckwit.
> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>
> > Are you not aware that in UK English parlance a profession is a paid
> > occupation, otherwise it is a hobby?
> Even more pathetic that you usually manage and that's saying something...
>
> Have fun listing even a single dictionary that says anything like that.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages
Profession
/prəˈfɛʃ(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: profession; plural noun: professions

1. a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification.

>
> That word is actually WORK, fuckwit.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
Work

An activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.

On Thu, 05 May 2022 00:31:00 +1000, whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 16:01:32 UTC+1, The Other John wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2022 15:11:05 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>
>> > When I was at school, had a pal whose mother was a widow. Husband
>> killed
>> > at the end of WW2. Her sister lived with them. Both women worked as
>> > teachers.
>> >
>> > Many years later, the sister died. Only then did it become public she
>> > wasn't her sister. Of course their relationship could have been
>> > platonic.
>> In the last year of my primary school in 1952 we had a woman teacher
>> with
>> very short hair, wore a tweed jacket and a tie, smoked a pipe and rode a
>> motorbike. She had a 'friend' who worked in a local shop who looked
>> exactly the same. I can't understand why 2 women acting like men fancied
>> each other. I thought opposites attract?
>
> That's not always true.
> Not with gravity.
> People do seem to get along better if they like similar things rather
> than opposite things.
> What if one person like cold places and the other hot places, one person
> supported everton the other liverpool.
> Same with Man U and Man C. Then there's religions.
> I thought I was being chatted up by a rather attractve girl, long curly
> hair, sexy accent beautiful eyes , who sat down next to me on the bus.
> As she sat down she said "would you like to come and see me", and handed
> me a flyer, with the words God, Jesus and church on it.
> I said I don't believe in that. I believe in Captain Kirk, she said
> who's that I said in a suprised voice Capain James T kirk of the
> starship Enterprise.
> She said I don't know who that is I'm lithuanian. I explained that
> captain kirk will be born in the future in 2233 and then go back in time
> to around 2000 years ago,
> he'll meet this cute virgin called mary, she will asked him "what is
> this this called love" he'll show her, scotty will then have fixed the
> transporters
> and beam him back up. It's just a basic temporal parodox where our past
> was created in our furture.
> She then got up and sat next to someone else. :-(

That's just your BO, stupid.

whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
>> >>> Rod Speed wrote
>> >>>> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
>> >>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>> >>>>>> Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote
>> >>>>>>> On 01/05/2022 04:10, ARW wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:23, GB wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 14:15, Fredxx wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 08:31, ARW wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-61249974
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Useless - not one of them said "That's going to cost you":-)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> A motor factors near me employed only female drivers for a
>> >>>>>>>>>> while, then a few men applied for driving job. They were
>> forced
>> >>>>>>>>>> to change their policy and now employ a mix.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder how many men will start applying for job at this
>> >>>>>>>>>> garage, and fail, with the expected consequences?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I did wonder whether it's illegal for them to refuse to take
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> a male mechanic. They are probably too savvy to be caught by
>> >>>>>>>>> that, though. They don't need to give a reason for rejecting
>> >>>>>>>>> him, after all.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> There is a company called Lady cabs, which only has female
>> >>>>>>>>> drivers. I can see a market need (or perceived need) for that,
>> >>>>>>>>> so maybe they can reasonably discriminate in taking on
>> drivers?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I wonder how my local brothel gets away with only employing
>> women?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Do give details!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Probably in much the same way there are some professions where
>> >>>>>>> equality act allows for inequality. I think toilet cleaners is
>> one.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> Nope, ours have the same cleaners do both.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Then once again you're an out of touch ignoramus.
>> >>>> We'll see...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> An employer may choose female cleaners to clean female toilets. It
>> >>>>> is regarded as a "Genuine Occupational Requirement" "for reasons
>> of
>> >>>>> privacy and decency" within the UK Equality 2010.
>> >>>> Irrelevant to the fact that an employer is free to do it the other
>> >>>> way.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> They prop the outside door open to make it clear that it is being
>> >>>>>> cleaned.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Quite, but doesn't prevent an employer specifying a female cleaner
>> >>>>> to clean female toilets.
>> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Remind us who was the ignoramus that said "nope" to "there are some
>> >>> professions where equality act allows for inequality".
>> >> Toilet cleaning isn't a profession, fuckwit.
>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>> > Are you not aware that in UK English parlance a profession is a paid
>> > occupation, otherwise it is a hobby?

>> Even more pathetic that you usually manage and that's saying
>> something...
>>
>> Have fun listing even a single dictionary that says anything like that.
>
> Dictionary
> Definitions from Oxford Languages
> Profession
> /prəˈfɛʃ(ə)n/
> Learn to pronounce
> noun
> noun: profession; plural noun: professions
>
> 1. a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged
> training and a formal qualification.

Which being a dunny cleaner doesn't.

On 01/05/2022 17:07, Fredxx wrote:
> On 01/05/2022 13:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> In article <muus6h1lv6a9e3ke61vhjm8kn650e7npnj@4ax.com>,
>>     Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 13:22:53 +0100, "Jim Stewart ..."
>>> <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 30/04/2022 08:31, ARW wrote:
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-61249974
>>>>>
>>>>> Useless - not one of them said "That's going to cost you":-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> all dykes except the good looking one thus proving dykws are just ugly
>>>> wumman who can't get a man .....
>>
>>> It's a pretty good rule of thumb that, Jim.
>>
>> Why doesn't that comment from you two surprise me?
>
> Sometimes observations are just that. It's bit like observing that an
> Afro-Caribbean is more likely to be in prison. Just because you don't
> like facts doesn't mean they're not true.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2020/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2020#:~:text=6.1%20Prison%20Population&text=In%202020%2C%20of%20prisoners%20whose,1%25%20from%20Other%20ethnic%20groups.

On 04/05/2022 20:20, ARW wrote:

>
> https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2020/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2020#:~:text=6.1%20Prison%20Population&text=In%202020%2C%20of%20prisoners%20whose,1%25%20from%20Other%20ethnic%20groups.
>
>

Thank you Adam. That's very interesting, especially the breakdown by age.

Bill

On 03/05/2022 21:37, Tim Streater wrote:

>> It's the thing to do when you're generalising. Not everything is black
>> and white.
>
> To Our Dave it is.
>

Dave does have an unusual way of looking at things. He comes out with
endless non sequiturs; so much so that they are his 'style' if you get
my meaning.

Bill

On 04/05/2022 11:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> You say they were trying to look like men. They could equally well just be
> dressing for comfort, since they weren't out to impress men.

I have no personal experience, but feminine attire is not uncomfortable
is it?

Bill

On 04/05/2022 15:31, whisky-dave wrote:
>> I thought opposites attract?
> That's not always true.
> Not with gravity.

Do you mean magnetism?

Bill

On 04/05/2022 15:31, whisky-dave wrote:
> People do seem to get along better if they like similar things rather than opposite things.
> What if one person like cold places and the other hot places, one person supported everton the other liverpool.
> Same with Man U and Man C. Then there's religions.
> I thought I was being chatted up by a rather attractve girl, long curly hair, sexy accent beautiful eyes , who sat down next to me on the bus.
> As she sat down she said "would you like to come and see me", and handed me a flyer, with the words God, Jesus and church on it.
> I said I don't believe in that. I believe in Captain Kirk, she said who's that I said in a suprised voice Capain James T kirk of the starship Enterprise.
> She said I don't know who that is I'm lithuanian. I explained that captain kirk will be born in the future in 2233 and then go back in time to around 2000 years ago,
> he'll meet this cute virgin called mary, she will asked him "what is this this called love" he'll show her, scotty will then have fixed the transporters
> and beam him back up. It's just a basic temporal parodox where our past was created in our furture.
> She then got up and sat next to someone else.:-(

That explains everything. I wish I'd read that when i was in school.

Bill

On 04/05/2022 21:47, williamwright wrote:
> On 04/05/2022 20:20, ARW wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2020/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2020#:~:text=6.1%20Prison%20Population&text=In%202020%2C%20of%20prisoners%20whose,1%25%20from%20Other%20ethnic%20groups.
>>
>>
>
> Thank you Adam. That's very interesting, especially the breakdown by age.
>

And the percentage of female prisoner officers that are lesbians?

Just asking for rough guess.

williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote

>> You say they were trying to look like men. They could equally well just
>> be dressing for comfort, since they weren't out to impress men.

> I have no personal experience,

Me neither.

> but feminine attire is not uncomfortable is it?

Corse it is in winter with dresses, stupid.

williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote
> Tim Streater wrote

>>> It's the thing to do when you're generalising. Not everything is black
>>> and white.

>> To Our Dave it is.

> Dave does have an unusual way of looking at things.

And a very black and white view of tory and labour voters.