On 14/10/2021 9:50 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
> the price of petrol in Victoria is tipped to hit $2 a litre within a
> week. Other states?
>
>
Saw it at $1.85 in North Lakes yesterday but the local Puma has it at
$1.44 with another 4c off if you are in RACQ.

On 15/10/2021 4:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 4:06 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/10/21 3:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them.
>>>>>>>>> Petrol
>>>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I need to
>>>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged
>>>>> shopping
>>>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a "miserable
>>>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS... you
>>>> can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>>>
>>>> What a pair of dunces.
>>>
>>>
>>> probably never bought a new car in his life. I've had two in the last
>>> few years.
>>>
>> Had 3 new ones in the 70s, then married in 1980 which put a halt on
>> new car buying for 15 years or so until we got ahead a bit. About 6
>> over the past 25 years.
>>
>
> hmmm. that made me think. I've had nine 9 new cars to date since and
> including the 17.5.1976. so on average one every 5 years. however the
> actual time each vehicle was kept varied from minimum 1 year to max 13
> years.

I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had had
3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:53:54 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them.
>>>>>>> Petrol
>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I need to
>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>
>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>
>>>>>      *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>
>>>>>                *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>
>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged shopping
>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a "miserable
>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>
>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS... you
>> can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>
>> What a pair of dunces.
>
> probably never bought a new car in his life.

If you're talking about the Fraudster here then I agree with you. His
*claimed* ownership is a grim history of battered shitheaps, but with one
startling exception. "I bought a ZL (1987) model Fairlane in late '88 for a
tad over 30 grand...". So why is that "startling"? Well given that Der Der
was 24/25 then, had never held a decent paying job, *and* that $30k in 1988
was a shedload of money well, draw your own conclusion on the veracity of
this claim.

alvey

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On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had had
> 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.

I've probably had that many cars, but only one wife. One is enough.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 15/10/2021 5:51 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 2:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 4:06 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/10/21 3:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy
>>>>>>>>>> them. Petrol
>>>>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I
>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged
>>>>>> shopping
>>>>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a
>>>>>> "miserable
>>>>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS...
>>>>> you can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>>>>
>>>>> What a pair of dunces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> probably never bought a new car in his life. I've had two in the
>>>> last few years.
>>>>
>>> Had 3 new ones in the 70s, then married in 1980 which put a halt on
>>> new car buying for 15 years or so until we got ahead a bit. About 6
>>> over the past 25 years.
>>>
>>
>> hmmm. that made me think. I've had nine 9 new cars to date since and
>> including the 17.5.1976. so on average one every 5 years. however the
>> actual time each vehicle was kept varied from minimum 1 year to max
>> 13 years.
>>
>>
>
> I've had one new car with the deal backdated (it's who you know :) and
> with 10% Holden discount it was good value. Most others were bought
> through the trade with many flipped for easy money. Others I've either
> kept because I like them or bought for a specific purpose, like the
> then 4 year old Hilux for when we were renovating our house in Perth.
> Still have it, it's just too handy to part with now as it's currently
> used to cart tonnes of Jarrah firewood around plus literally *nothing*
> has gone wrong with it in 335,000km, not a tear in the seat, not on
> it's third timing chain, no collapsed suspension and not spot of bent
> or rusted chassis a la Navara, so it stays :-)
>
yep. sounds like it's good to hang onto.

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- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 15/10/2021 6:30 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:53:54 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them.
>>>>>>>> Petrol
>>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I need to
>>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged shopping
>>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a "miserable
>>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>>
>>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS... you
>>> can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>>
>>> What a pair of dunces.
>> probably never bought a new car in his life.
> If you're talking about the Fraudster

no I was referring to the village idiot

> here then I agree with you. His
> *claimed* ownership is a grim history of battered shitheaps, but with one
> startling exception. "I bought a ZL (1987) model Fairlane in late '88 for a
> tad over 30 grand...". So why is that "startling"? Well given that Der Der
> was 24/25 then, had never held a decent paying job, *and* that $30k in 1988
> was a shedload of money well, draw your own conclusion on the veracity of
> this claim.

my conclusion is the same with any of his claims.. treat with the utmost
suspicion.

>
> alvey
>

--
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- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 15/10/2021 7:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>
> I've probably had that many cars,

really? so let's do the maths. supposing you bought your first car at 18
(legal driving age), and since you're 54 (56?) now, you've had 36 'car
buying' years, which translates to one purchase every three months, in
round figures. hmmm....

> but only one wife. One is enough.
>

--
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- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 15/10/2021 4:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>
> I've probably had that many cars,

Bullshit you have.

On 15/10/2021 5:26 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 6:30 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:53:54 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them.
>>>>>>>>> Petrol
>>>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I need to
>>>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged
>>>>> shopping
>>>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a "miserable
>>>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS... you
>>>> can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>>>
>>>> What a pair of dunces.
>>> probably never bought a new car in his life.
>> If you're talking about the Fraudster
>
>
> no I was referring to the village idiot
>
>
>> here then I agree with you. His
>> *claimed* ownership is a grim history of battered shitheaps, but with one
>> startling exception. "I bought a ZL (1987) model Fairlane in late '88
>> for a
>> tad over 30 grand...". So why is that "startling"? Well given that Der
>> Der
>> was 24/25 then, had never held a decent paying job, *and* that $30k in
>> 1988
>> was a shedload of money well, draw your own conclusion on the veracity of
>> this claim.
>
>
> my conclusion is the same with any of his claims.. treat with the utmost
> suspicion.
>
>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>

Well, you can't believe the word of a narcissistic habitual liar ever,
so of course everything he says is probably a lie.

On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's permit
>>> runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of driving left
>>> on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down hill with a
>>> decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>
>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I was a
>> passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the progress with
>> the new EFI.
>
> Is that his car?

Yes, Les's son.

It's an awesome looking beast.

It does look pretty good.
He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job of
making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive it all
that much.
The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I think
the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot, whoever did
the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the residual valve in the
master cylinder so the brakes were always dragging.
We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the thermo
fans were always on when the engine was running and that created an odd
problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept spinning becoming
generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until the fans slowed down.
Fixed that by controlling the fans through the Holley EFI.

Reckon I might have to
> go one stage up on the secondary jets on the Y-block to have a decent
> crack at it :)
>
>

LOL, the 383 he bought came with an engine dyno readout of 460HP, seems
about right:-)

--
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On 15/10/21 7:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>
> I've probably had that many cars, but only one wife. One is enough.
>
>
>
LOL, haven't had that many cars, maybe 40 but the same wife since 1974,
still deciding if that's good or bad:-)

--
Daryl

On 15/10/2021 9:02 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 5:26 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 6:30 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 15:53:54 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/10/2021 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 15/10/2021 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:00:07 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/10/2021 11:29 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2021 9:31 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is
>>>>>>>>>> around $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them.
>>>>>>>>>> Petrol
>>>>>>>>>> prices are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost
>>>>>>>>>> certainly rise in the near future.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I
>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>> fill up?
>>>>>>>> ``````````````````````````````
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       *That* reply could *only* come from you....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 *Laughable old lackey* indeed.
>>>>>>> Miserable tight arse is what he is.
>>>>>> You wouldn't think that someone who bought a seriously flogged
>>>>>> shopping
>>>>>> trolley with 70,000km on it would accuse anyone of being a
>>>>>> "miserable
>>>>>> tightarse". But that's the sort of person Der Der is. A buffoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As ever, love your work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well that but his new mate shops for his cars at the tip FFS... you
>>>>> can't get more miserable or tight arsed than that!
>>>>>
>>>>> What a pair of dunces.
>>>> probably never bought a new car in his life.
>>> If you're talking about the Fraudster
>>
>>
>> no I was referring to the village idiot
>>
>>
>>> here then I agree with you. His
>>> *claimed* ownership is a grim history of battered shitheaps, but
>>> with one
>>> startling exception. "I bought a ZL (1987) model Fairlane in late
>>> '88 for a
>>> tad over 30 grand...". So why is that "startling"? Well given that
>>> Der Der
>>> was 24/25 then, had never held a decent paying job, *and* that $30k
>>> in 1988
>>> was a shedload of money well, draw your own conclusion on the
>>> veracity of
>>> this claim.
>>
>>
>> my conclusion is the same with any of his claims.. treat with the
>> utmost suspicion.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>>
>
> Well, you can't believe the word of a narcissistic habitual liar ever,
> so of course everything he says is probably a lie.

he's even lied under oath in court, it's been said here

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On 15/10/2021 9:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's permit
>>>> runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of driving left
>>>> on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down hill with a
>>>> decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>>
>>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I was a
>>> passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the progress with
>>> the new EFI.
>>
>> Is that his car?
>
> Yes, Les's son.
>
>  It's an awesome looking beast.
>
> It does look pretty good.

It's a very cool looking car.

> He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job of
> making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive it all
> that much.

Yeah, some blokes are funny like that. Some would prefer to have them
sit around and be admired. I prefer to drive them.

> The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I think
> the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot, whoever did
> the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the residual valve in the
> master cylinder so the brakes were always dragging.

I wonder if it's one of Clasener's old jobs?

> We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the thermo
> fans were always on when the engine was running and that created an odd
> problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept spinning becoming
> generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until the fans slowed down.

Definitely sounds like Tafe teacher work :)

> Fixed that by controlling the fans through the Holley EFI.

One nice advantage.

The silly old ex-teacher who built the Effie zip tied a 16 inch fan
straight to the radiator core so only around 40% of it was getting
cooled when the fan was running, and to make it worse he hooked the fan
up to a switch partially hidden under the dash so the fan would *only*
come on when you flipped the switch manually.

Smart man, but then he got around the problems that could cause by
cutting the guts out of the thermostat so the engine never gets hotter
than around 60 degrees. No prizes for guessing why the thing is only
getting 8 miles per gallon :)

>  Reckon I might have to
>> go one stage up on the secondary jets on the Y-block to have a decent
>> crack at it :)
>>
>>
>
> LOL, the 383 he bought came with an engine dyno readout of 460HP, seems
> about right:-)

That's just short of a 300hp advantage over me. So tell him we'll race,
as long as he gives me the length of the Avenue heading towards Melton
as a head start. First one to the cemetary, and I reckon he'll *just*
pip me :)

383's are an awesome combination.

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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 15/10/2021 9:13 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/10/21 7:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>>
>> I've probably had that many cars, but only one wife. One is enough.
>>
>>
>>
> LOL, haven't had that many cars, maybe 40 but the same wife since 1974,
> still deciding if that's good or bad:-)

If it's been that long it probably doesn't matter either way :)

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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 15/10/21 9:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 9:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's permit
>>>>> runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of driving
>>>>> left on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down hill with
>>>>> a decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>>>
>>>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I was
>>>> a passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the progress
>>>> with the new EFI.
>>>
>>> Is that his car?
>>
>> Yes, Les's son.
>>
>>   It's an awesome looking beast.
>>
>> It does look pretty good.
>
> It's a very cool looking car.
>
>> He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job of
>> making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive it
>> all that much.
>
> Yeah, some blokes are funny like that. Some would prefer to have them
> sit around and be admired. I prefer to drive them.

Agree, its a car not a museum piece.
There are a few exceptions but only if the car is extremely rare.
The bloke I know that owns the only Subaru powered F1 car in existence
is contemplating whether or not to try and get it running or to just
keep it as a museum piece, not that I get any say in it but my
preference is to get it running and maybe do a few demo laps before its
finally put of display, we even offered to work on it for free but so
far he hasn't taken up our offer:-)
>
>> The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I
>> think the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot,
>> whoever did the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the residual
>> valve in the master cylinder so the brakes were always dragging.
>
> I wonder if it's one of Clasener's old jobs?
>
>> We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the thermo
>> fans were always on when the engine was running and that created an
>> odd problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept spinning becoming
>> generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until the fans slowed down.
>
> Definitely sounds like Tafe teacher work :)

Could be:-)
>
>> Fixed that by controlling the fans through the Holley EFI.
>
> One nice advantage.

Yep, lots of options.
>
> The silly old ex-teacher who built the Effie zip tied a 16 inch fan
> straight to the radiator core so only around 40% of it was getting
> cooled when the fan was running, and to make it worse he hooked the fan
> up to a switch partially hidden under the dash so the fan would *only*
> come on when you flipped the switch manually.
>
> Smart man, but then he got around the problems that could cause by
> cutting the guts out of the thermostat so the engine never gets hotter
> than around 60 degrees. No prizes for guessing why the thing is only
> getting 8 miles per gallon :)

Bloody hell, what did he teach, hairdressing?
>
>>   Reckon I might have to
>>> go one stage up on the secondary jets on the Y-block to have a decent
>>> crack at it :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> LOL, the 383 he bought came with an engine dyno readout of 460HP,
>> seems about right:-)
>
> That's just short of a 300hp advantage over me. So tell him we'll race,
> as long as he gives me the length of the Avenue heading towards Melton
> as a head start. First one to the cemetary, and I reckon he'll *just*
> pip me :)

I'll ask if he's interested:-)

--
Daryl

On 15/10/2021 10:28 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/10/21 9:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 9:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's
>>>>>> permit runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of
>>>>>> driving left on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down
>>>>>> hill with a decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I was
>>>>> a passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the progress
>>>>> with the new EFI.
>>>>
>>>> Is that his car?
>>>
>>> Yes, Les's son.
>>>
>>>   It's an awesome looking beast.
>>>
>>> It does look pretty good.
>>
>> It's a very cool looking car.
>>
>>> He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job of
>>> making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive it
>>> all that much.
>>
>> Yeah, some blokes are funny like that. Some would prefer to have them
>> sit around and be admired. I prefer to drive them.
>
> Agree, its a car not a museum piece.
> There are a few exceptions but only if the car is extremely rare.
> The bloke I know that owns the only Subaru powered F1 car in existence
> is contemplating whether or not to try and get it running or to just
> keep it as a museum piece, not that I get any say in it but my
> preference is to get it running and maybe do a few demo laps before its
> finally put of display, we even offered to work on it for free but so
> far he hasn't taken up our offer:-)
>>
>>> The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I
>>> think the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot,
>>> whoever did the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the
>>> residual valve in the master cylinder so the brakes were always
>>> dragging.
>>
>> I wonder if it's one of Clasener's old jobs?
>>
>>> We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the
>>> thermo fans were always on when the engine was running and that
>>> created an odd problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept
>>> spinning becoming generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until
>>> the fans slowed down.
>>
>> Definitely sounds like Tafe teacher work :)
>
> Could be:-)
>>
>>> Fixed that by controlling the fans through the Holley EFI.
>>
>> One nice advantage.
>
> Yep, lots of options.
>>
>> The silly old ex-teacher who built the Effie zip tied a 16 inch fan
>> straight to the radiator core so only around 40% of it was getting
>> cooled when the fan was running, and to make it worse he hooked the
>> fan up to a switch partially hidden under the dash so the fan would
>> *only* come on when you flipped the switch manually.
>>
>> Smart man, but then he got around the problems that could cause by
>> cutting the guts out of the thermostat so the engine never gets hotter
>> than around 60 degrees. No prizes for guessing why the thing is only
>> getting 8 miles per gallon :)
>
> Bloody hell, what did he teach, hairdressing?

I'm fucked if I know, but he was fucking incompetent I can tell you that
much. The thing is vastly improved, but it still needs more sorting. I'm
waiting on parts to arrive to do more. It currently gets 25l/100km
mostly due to it's horrendous rear end gearing of 3.92:1 which sees it
sit on just over 3000rpm on the freeway, but the fact that it's always
running fairly cold ensures that a lot of fuel is going into the sump
and a lot unburnt straight out the tailpipe.

Still, it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got the thing.
The way he had it "tuned" was appalling, and it was so bad that when I
drove it to St.Albans from my place to get it's Roadworthy done I left
here with a full tank and it ran out of fuel on the highway at Tabcorp
park on the way home.

That worked out to around 60 litres per 100km's. Not bad for a 272 cubic
in engine :)

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Noddy.

On 15/10/2021 9:31 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 6:06 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 14/10/2021 10:50 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>> the price of petrol in Victoria is tipped to hit $2 a litre within a
>>> week. Other states?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **My discount servo sells 98RON for $1.74/L. The local Shell is around
>> $2.03/L. Dunno about the other fuels. I don't buy them. Petrol prices
>> are not going to fall anytime soon. They will, almost certainly rise
>> in the near future.
>
>
> is there any expectation of when they will fall again as I need to fill up?
>
>

**Fill up now. Prices will not go down in the near future.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 20:34:12 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 15/10/2021 7:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>>
>> I've probably had that many cars,
>
> really? so let's do the maths. supposing you bought your first car at 18
> (legal driving age), and since you're 54 (56?) now, you've had 36 'car
> buying' years, which translates to one purchase every three months, in
> round figures. hmmm....

Coincidentally, if a Dictorian deals with four or more cars in a year then
they need a Motor Traders Licence. The list of Motor Traders is publicly
available. There is no Darren Gibbens on it.

So, does the Fraudster have an explanation for his abscence? Or is it all
just another lie?

As ever, love your work Der Der.

alvey
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On 16/10/21 1:26 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 10:28 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/10/21 9:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 9:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's
>>>>>>> permit runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of
>>>>>>> driving left on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down
>>>>>>> hill with a decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I
>>>>>> was a passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the
>>>>>> progress with the new EFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that his car?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Les's son.
>>>>
>>>>   It's an awesome looking beast.
>>>>
>>>> It does look pretty good.
>>>
>>> It's a very cool looking car.
>>>
>>>> He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job
>>>> of making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive
>>>> it all that much.
>>>
>>> Yeah, some blokes are funny like that. Some would prefer to have them
>>> sit around and be admired. I prefer to drive them.
>>
>> Agree, its a car not a museum piece.
>> There are a few exceptions but only if the car is extremely rare.
>> The bloke I know that owns the only Subaru powered F1 car in existence
>> is contemplating whether or not to try and get it running or to just
>> keep it as a museum piece, not that I get any say in it but my
>> preference is to get it running and maybe do a few demo laps before
>> its finally put of display, we even offered to work on it for free but
>> so far he hasn't taken up our offer:-)
>>>
>>>> The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I
>>>> think the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot,
>>>> whoever did the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the
>>>> residual valve in the master cylinder so the brakes were always
>>>> dragging.
>>>
>>> I wonder if it's one of Clasener's old jobs?
>>>
>>>> We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the
>>>> thermo fans were always on when the engine was running and that
>>>> created an odd problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept
>>>> spinning becoming generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until
>>>> the fans slowed down.
>>>
>>> Definitely sounds like Tafe teacher work :)
>>
>> Could be:-)
>>>
>>>> Fixed that by controlling the fans through the Holley EFI.
>>>
>>> One nice advantage.
>>
>> Yep, lots of options.
>>>
>>> The silly old ex-teacher who built the Effie zip tied a 16 inch fan
>>> straight to the radiator core so only around 40% of it was getting
>>> cooled when the fan was running, and to make it worse he hooked the
>>> fan up to a switch partially hidden under the dash so the fan would
>>> *only* come on when you flipped the switch manually.
>>>
>>> Smart man, but then he got around the problems that could cause by
>>> cutting the guts out of the thermostat so the engine never gets
>>> hotter than around 60 degrees. No prizes for guessing why the thing
>>> is only getting 8 miles per gallon :)
>>
>> Bloody hell, what did he teach, hairdressing?
>
> I'm fucked if I know, but he was fucking incompetent I can tell you that
> much. The thing is vastly improved, but it still needs more sorting. I'm
> waiting on parts to arrive to do more. It currently gets 25l/100km
> mostly due to it's horrendous rear end gearing of 3.92:1 which sees it
> sit on just over 3000rpm on the freeway, but the fact that it's always
> running fairly cold ensures that a lot of fuel is going into the sump
> and a lot unburnt straight out the tailpipe.
>
> Still, it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got the thing.
> The way he had it "tuned" was appalling, and it was so bad that when I
> drove it to St.Albans from my place to get it's Roadworthy done I left
> here with a full tank and it ran out of fuel on the highway at Tabcorp
> park on the way home.
>
> That worked out to around 60 litres per 100km's. Not bad for a 272 cubic
> in engine :)
>
>
>
>
Bloody hell, sounds like another shed queen that was never driven.

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On 16/10/2021 6:39 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 20:34:12 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 15/10/2021 7:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 5:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a friend who died a few years back who's boast was that he had
>>>> had 3 wives and 150 cars in his life. Knowing him, I believed it.
>>> I've probably had that many cars,
>> really? so let's do the maths. supposing you bought your first car at 18
>> (legal driving age), and since you're 54 (56?) now, you've had 36 'car
>> buying' years, which translates to one purchase every three months, in
>> round figures. hmmm....
> Coincidentally, if a Dictorian deals with four or more cars in a year then
> they need a Motor Traders Licence. The list of Motor Traders is publicly
> available. There is no Darren Gibbens on it.
>
> So, does the Fraudster have an explanation for his abscence? Or is it all
> just another lie?
>
> As ever, love your work Der Der.
>
>
> alvey
> Sources: https://tinyurl.com/axj26bvs
> https://tinyurl.com/4w7dh5ka
>

"noddy's used cars" lol. when they break down take em to "noddy's
automotive" lol.

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On 16/10/2021 8:56 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/10/21 1:26 am, Noddy wrote:

>> Still, it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got the thing.
>> The way he had it "tuned" was appalling, and it was so bad that when I
>> drove it to St.Albans from my place to get it's Roadworthy done I left
>> here with a full tank and it ran out of fuel on the highway at Tabcorp
>> park on the way home.
>>
>> That worked out to around 60 litres per 100km's. Not bad for a 272
>> cubic in engine :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Bloody hell, sounds like another shed queen that was never driven.

He reckons he used to drive it to play golf, but clearly the golf course
must have been just around the corner. He just had no idea what he was
doing. Everything on the engine was just taken out of it's box and
installed with no regard to adjustments or tuning. Wrong timing, wrong
temp settings, wrong plugs, wrong gaps, wrong carburetor, wrong everything.

I've never seen an engine running as rich as this was and still be able
to start.

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On 16/10/21 10:39 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/10/2021 8:56 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/10/21 1:26 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Still, it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got the thing.
>>> The way he had it "tuned" was appalling, and it was so bad that when
>>> I drove it to St.Albans from my place to get it's Roadworthy done I
>>> left here with a full tank and it ran out of fuel on the highway at
>>> Tabcorp park on the way home.
>>>
>>> That worked out to around 60 litres per 100km's. Not bad for a 272
>>> cubic in engine :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Bloody hell, sounds like another shed queen that was never driven.
>
> He reckons he used to drive it to play golf, but clearly the golf course
> must have been just around the corner. He just had no idea what he was
> doing. Everything on the engine was just taken out of it's box and
> installed with no regard to adjustments or tuning. Wrong timing, wrong
> temp settings, wrong plugs, wrong gaps, wrong carburetor, wrong everything.
>
> I've never seen an engine running as rich as this was and still be able
> to start.
>
>

Probably would have run better and used less fuel if it was dead stock.

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On 15/10/21 9:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/10/2021 9:08 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/10/21 5:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 12:04 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/21 11:31 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Just as well. I've been using the Effie a bit lately as it's permit
>>>>> runs out in a few weeks and I still have 40 odd days of driving
>>>>> left on it, and the thing gets 25 litres per 100km's down hill with
>>>>> a decent wind up it's clacker :)
>>>>
>>>> LOL, BTW I saw you last weekend driving the Effie in Main St, I was
>>>> a passenger in the green Torana, he wanted to show me the progress
>>>> with the new EFI.
>>>
>>> Is that his car?
>>
>> Yes, Les's son.
>>
>>   It's an awesome looking beast.
>>
>> It does look pretty good.
>
> It's a very cool looking car.

I notice Les' son *isn't* getting *you* to do any work on it Darren. How
unsurprising since you cost his dad a motzsa on the Elise engine and
*lied* about the cause of that huge cock up.
>
>> He bought it in Sydney, whoever did the work did a pretty good job of
>> making it look good but I don't think they ever intended to drive it
>> all that much.
>
> Yeah, some blokes are funny like that. Some would prefer to have them
> sit around and be admired. I prefer to drive them.
>
>> The car was originally a 6cyl manual with drum brakes all round, I
>> think the fronts are now HQ discs but they used to get very hot,
>> whoever did the brake upgrade forgot or didn't know about the residual
>> valve in the master cylinder so the brakes were always dragging.
>
> I wonder if it's one of Clasener's old jobs?

For your information, since you never did an apprenticeship as a motor
mechanic, residual valves (also known as check valves) are covered in
the apprentice syllabus in level one - basic hydraulics - and level two
- servicing master cylinders - and level 3 - brake fault diagnosis.
For that matter, the residual valve is covered in the apprentice text
book on brakes - Guide To Hydraulic Brake Service, PBR Brake Group,
1981. I still have my 1981 reference copy.The basics are covered on
pages 8-9 and the servicing procedures are covered on pages 13, 19, 20 &
47. Anyone who actually completed an apprenticeship as a motor mechanic
in Victoria, and attended TAFE, knows all about residual line pressure
valves Darren. You act as if you've just discovered them. How unsurprising.
>
>> We found a few other things like that which are now sorted, the thermo
>> fans were always on when the engine was running and that created an
>> odd problem, switch the engine off and the fans kept spinning becoming
>> generators so the engine wouldn't shut down until the fans slowed down.
>
> Definitely sounds like Tafe teacher work :)

Jealousy's a curse! Besides, how would you know Darren? You never
qualified to even be signed up as an apprentice, ever. Not even that one
where you *lied* about being an aviation apprentice. The only TAFE
teachers you know are those who taught you in your hobby panel beating
course at Richmond - entry requirement: warm and vertical along with the
ability to pay the course fee.

More Darren bullshit snipped.

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On 16/10/2021 11:22 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/10/21 10:39 am, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> He reckons he used to drive it to play golf, but clearly the golf
>> course must have been just around the corner. He just had no idea what
>> he was doing. Everything on the engine was just taken out of it's box
>> and installed with no regard to adjustments or tuning. Wrong timing,
>> wrong temp settings, wrong plugs, wrong gaps, wrong carburetor, wrong
>> everything.
>>
>> I've never seen an engine running as rich as this was and still be
>> able to start.
>>
>>
>
> Probably would have run better and used less fuel if it was dead stock.

No doubt. I've only got a couple of minor things left to do to it when
the parts arrive and then it can stay like it is for a couple of years
until I pull it out and flog it off before swapping it with a Windsor.

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On 16/10/21 11:22 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/10/21 10:39 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/10/2021 8:56 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 16/10/21 1:26 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Still, it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got the
>>>> thing. The way he had it "tuned" was appalling, and it was so bad
>>>> that when I drove it to St.Albans from my place to get it's
>>>> Roadworthy done I left here with a full tank and it ran out of fuel
>>>> on the highway at Tabcorp park on the way home.
>>>>
>>>> That worked out to around 60 litres per 100km's. Not bad for a 272
>>>> cubic in engine :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Bloody hell, sounds like another shed queen that was never driven.
>>
>> He reckons he used to drive it to play golf, but clearly the golf
>> course must have been just around the corner. He just had no idea what
>> he was doing. Everything on the engine was just taken out of it's box
>> and installed with no regard to adjustments or tuning. Wrong timing,
>> wrong temp settings, wrong plugs, wrong gaps, wrong carburetor, wrong
>> everything.
>>
>> I've never seen an engine running as rich as this was and still be
>> able to start.
>>
>>
>
> Probably would have run better and used less fuel if it was dead stock.
>
>
Ahem, first point, engines need a very rich mixture when cold starting.
Typically this is about 9:1 but in extreme conditions it could be even
richer. For an engine to produce power, you need about 12:1,
acceleration about 11:1, warm cruise about 14.7:1 and deceleration about
17-18:1. Even an overly rich mixture will allow the engine to cold start
as long as flooding doesn't occur but an engine mixture that will allow
a cold start will not run when hot without bogging down.

A point to note here, road engines are designed to run fuel efficiently
when dead stock, that's a given. That includes stock tuning settings.

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