Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
> On 12/10/2023 09:35, Recliner wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:47:27 +0100
>>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2023 22:57, Recliner wrote:
>>>>> Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A number of HST vehicles, including former gWr power cars and ex-LNER
>>>>>> carriages, have moved from Ely to Great Yarmouth to be exported to Mexico!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1687161141678522386>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently they will be used on the Tren Maya line, currently being built
>>>>>> in the tourist area of the Yucatan Peninsula south of Cancun; which in an
>>>>>> all too familiar tale, has been downgraded from electric to diesel traction
>>>>>> to save construction costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HST running under its own power in Mexico:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://x.com/paul_winginit/status/1712008111282659796?s=61&t=hpa_q__1jHKBKNmXn
>>>> N44ZQ
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to see here
>>>>
>>>> Looks like this page doesn’t exist. Here’s a picture of a poodle sitting
>>>> in a chair for your trouble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter seems to have got even more babyish.
>>>
>>> Musk has totally fucked it up. Unless you have an account - I don't - then
>>> when you look at someones feed you either get some random tweets from the
>>> last few years or you get a login box. If he's trying to make it irrelevant
>>> he's certainly going the right away about it.
>>
>> Yes, he has ambitions to turn it into an 'everything' service to replace
>> eBay, Paypal, Facebook, Uber and others, but is more likely to turn it into
>> a 'nothing' service.
>>
> For me it's "already" a nothing service. It's become unusable without
> an account and I don't trust Musk with my personal information. I
> didn't have an account only used for live communication with TfW but
> I've not used it for a while and according to what I've read it should
> have been closed.
>

Surely, just like facebook, the only information you need to give is an
email address (created specifically for the purpose if necessary)?

Anna Noyd-Dryver

Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
> On 12/10/2023 15:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2023 22:57, Recliner wrote:
>>>> Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A number of HST vehicles, including former gWr power cars and ex-LNER
>>>>> carriages, have moved from Ely to Great Yarmouth to be exported to Mexico!
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1687161141678522386>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently they will be used on the Tren Maya line, currently being built
>>>>> in the tourist area of the Yucatan Peninsula south of Cancun; which in an
>>>>> all too familiar tale, has been downgraded from electric to diesel traction
>>>>> to save construction costs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HST running under its own power in Mexico:
>>>>
>>>> https://x.com/paul_winginit/status/1712008111282659796?s=61&t=hpa_q__1jHKBKNmXnN44ZQ
>>>
>>> Nothing to see here
>>>
>>> Looks like this page doesn’t exist. Here’s a picture of a poodle sitting
>>> in a chair for your trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>> Twitter seems to have got even more babyish.
>>>
>>
>> I can see it without being logged in.
>
> Interesting. Are you sure Twitter is still not able to identity you
> without logging in?
>

My newsreader has an embedded browser which isn't logged in to Twitter - I
could see the post with login/register prompts at the top of the screen.

Like so: <https://x.com/annanoyddryver/status/1712540470570790972>, though
I've just realised that it won't be much use if you can't see twitter…

Anna Noyd-Dryver

Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
> The HSTs aren't on Tren Maya, they're 300-500 miles west on Corredor
> Interoceánico Mexico.
>
> <https://polemon.mx/corredor-interoceanico-la-obra-maritima-mas-importante-de-america-latina/amp/>
> has a map.

Ah thanks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarril_Transístmico

Didn't realise they had two major railway projects both commissioning their
new trains at the moment.

Theo

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:33:33 +0100
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:26:29 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:57:33 -0000 (UTC)
>>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A number of HST vehicles, including former gWr power cars and ex-LNER
>>>> carriages, have moved from Ely to Great Yarmouth to be exported to Mexico!
>>>>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1687161141678522386>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently they will be used on the Tren Maya line, currently being built
>>>> in the tourist area of the Yucatan Peninsula south of Cancun; which in an
>>>> all too familiar tale, has been downgraded from electric to diesel traction
>
>>>> to save construction costs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>HST running under its own power in Mexico:
>>>
>>>https://x.com/paul_winginit/status/1712008111282659796?s=61&t=hpa_q__1jHKBKNm
>Xn
>>>N44ZQ
>>
>>Why would the Mexicans want a 50 year old train that is rather cramped
>>compared to the north american loading gauge stuff they're used to? Seems
>>an odd choice to me.
>>
>Are Mexicans larger than people in the UK?

They wouldn't need to be to feel cramped in a UK train. I feel cramped in a
UK train if someone is sitting next to me. I'm not the smallest person in the
world but neither am I Butterbean (a boxer, google).

On 05/08/2023 23:49, Coffee wrote:
> On 05/08/2023 16:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> On 05/08/2023 16:51, Theo wrote:
>>> Mike Humphrey <mail@michaelhumphrey.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2023 06:31:42 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>> On a low loader it says (or if powers cars and carriages, a series of
>>>>> low loaders presumably) despite the railway line - which saw a
>>>>> railtour
>>>>> to Great Yarmouth six weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>> The line still exists to the passenger station, but the track beyond
>>>> there to the docks has been lifted. So they would still need to be
>>>> moved
>>>> to a low loader at some point - the nearest viable option looks to
>>>> be the
>>>> sidings just outside Great Yarmouth. But it's probably simpler to load
>>>> them where they already are. Though of course the other option would
>>>> have
>>>> been to export them via a rail-connected port.
>>>
>>> I hadn't realised they have built a completely new port in recent years
>>> (well, 2009):
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Yarmouth_Outer_Harbour
>>> which is not connected to the old docks branch, even if it remained.
>>>
>>> Maybe the Mexicans got a bargain offer to dock their ship there
>>> instead of
>>> another port.
>>>
>>
>> Given it would have to be a special charter, Great Yarmouth would be
>> very much cheaper to dock at than, say, Felixstowe or Southampton.
>>
> The non-English built BR Class 56s were imported via Harwich.
>

And after Newport "dropped" 70012, some Freightliner Class 70s arrived
via Seaforth (near Liverpool).

On 11/10/2023 23:47, Coffee wrote:
> On 11/10/2023 22:57, Recliner wrote:
>> Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A number of HST vehicles, including former gWr power cars and ex-LNER
>>> carriages, have moved from Ely to Great Yarmouth to be exported to
>>> Mexico!
>>>
>>> <https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1687161141678522386>
>>>
>>> Apparently they will be used on the Tren Maya line, currently being
>>> built
>>> in the tourist area of the Yucatan Peninsula south of Cancun; which
>>> in an
>>> all too familiar tale, has been downgraded from electric to diesel
>>> traction
>>> to save construction costs.
>>>
>>
>> HST running under its own power in Mexico:
>>
>> https://x.com/paul_winginit/status/1712008111282659796?s=61&t=hpa_q__1jHKBKNmXnN44ZQ
>
> Nothing to see here
>
> Looks like this page doesn’t exist. Here’s a picture of a poodle sitting
> in a chair for your trouble.
>

Link works OK for me (Firefox, Windows 10)

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:53:24 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:33:33 +0100
>Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:26:29 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:57:33 -0000 (UTC)
>>>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A number of HST vehicles, including former gWr power cars and ex-LNER
>>>>> carriages, have moved from Ely to Great Yarmouth to be exported to Mexico!
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1687161141678522386>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently they will be used on the Tren Maya line, currently being built
>>>>> in the tourist area of the Yucatan Peninsula south of Cancun; which in an
>>>>> all too familiar tale, has been downgraded from electric to diesel traction
>>
>>>>> to save construction costs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HST running under its own power in Mexico:
>>>>
>>>>https://x.com/paul_winginit/status/1712008111282659796?s=61&t=hpa_q__1jHKBKNm
>>Xn
>>>>N44ZQ
>>>
>>>Why would the Mexicans want a 50 year old train that is rather cramped
>>>compared to the north american loading gauge stuff they're used to? Seems
>>>an odd choice to me.
>>>
>>Are Mexicans larger than people in the UK?
>
>They wouldn't need to be to feel cramped in a UK train. I feel cramped in a
>UK train if someone is sitting next to me. I'm not the smallest person in the
>world but neither am I Butterbean (a boxer, google).
>
You get round that by having three across instead of four across.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 17:50:33 +0100
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:53:24 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
>wrote:
>>They wouldn't need to be to feel cramped in a UK train. I feel cramped in a
>>UK train if someone is sitting next to me. I'm not the smallest person in the
>>world but neither am I Butterbean (a boxer, google).
>>
>You get round that by having three across instead of four across.

Indeed, and thats generally called "First class".