On 11/3/2021 12:25 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/11/2021 4:49 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 2/11/21 7:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2021 2:38 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 11/2/2021 1:33 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Well, grown-ups aren't as naive as the Dazzler. I mean, he's a
>>>>> nice bloke and all but I've never come across anyone as gullible
>>>>> as he is.
>>>>>
>>>>> NoddyLiar sure collects the misfits and dimwitted, that's for
>>>>> certain.
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>   Why then, does he (and others) think that *you* are a know
>>>> nothing twonk?. (putting it nicely. <G>)
>>>
>>> He's a fucking *idiot*.
>>>
>>> Look at the noise he's making about the repair I did on my
>>> distributor. He's making a massive deal out of something that has
>>> nothing whatsoever to do with him and carrying on like a 4 year old
>>> screaming about only he knows how to do it properly and he can do it
>>> so much better, and "N'yer n'yer n'yer because I'm so much better
>>> than you so there".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>
>> Its actually very bizzare, carrying on implying that "qualified"
>> mechanics would know all about electronics so they could fix
>> something like that easily.
>> If he actually knew any mechanics he would know that very few of us
>> know anything about electronics simply because its a completely
>> different trade
>
> No it isn't you fucking numpty. Auto-electrics is very much part of
> the auto electrical trade

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No shit Sherlock??...

> and in fact there is quite some overlap between them up to a point.

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>
>
> , its a bit like saying a mechanic should know how to rewire a house.
>
> Not at all in fact. What an absurd thing to say.

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>
>> A mechanics needs to know how to diagnose a fault but they don't have
>> to know how to repair electronic circuits or even know how they work.
>>
>>
>>
>
> No wonder you went on the cleaning dunnies... and managed to fuck that
> up as well. Why is it that Team NoddyLiar has attracted all the
> dumbarses? Every single one of you isn't qualified, has no idea and is
> profoundly stupid.
>
> What a result.
>
>
>

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On 2/11/2021 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/11/2021 4:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 2/11/2021 5:56 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2021 2:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 1/11/2021 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2021 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/10/2021 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2021 11:55 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30/10/2021 9:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OT: Car post
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As most of you are aware I own a 1956 Ford F-100. It's a cool
>>>>>>>>> old thing and I love it to death.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was put together by a bloke who really had no idea what he
>>>>>>>>> was doing, and I've been chasing problems with it ever since I
>>>>>>>>> bought it last year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's coming good, and I've got most stuff sorted on it, but one
>>>>>>>>> problem thing it's had since the day I got the thing is an
>>>>>>>>> intermittent ignition stumble, and because it's been *very*
>>>>>>>>> random it's been terribly hard to pinpoint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until yesterday :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The truck has it's original 272 cube Y Block V8 that was
>>>>>>>>> reconditioned not long before I bought the thing, and is
>>>>>>>>> standard apart from having an alloy 4 barrel manifold, an
>>>>>>>>> Edelbrock 1405 carb, a nice set of ceramic coated headers and
>>>>>>>>> an MSD "ready to run" distributor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of these:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vpw.com.au/parts/MSD-8383
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These ready to run things are a quick and easy convert to
>>>>>>>>> electronic ignition for older shitheaps like this, as they're
>>>>>>>>> all fully self contained with a single pole reluctor trigger
>>>>>>>>> and an ignition module mounted under the base plate. All they
>>>>>>>>> need is a power feed from the coil and they're good to go. They
>>>>>>>>> also have a couple of cool features such as a built in rev
>>>>>>>>> limiter which is programmed by momentarily earthing the tach
>>>>>>>>> signal wire while the engine is running, and their best feature
>>>>>>>>> in my opinion is that the mechanical advance mechanism is
>>>>>>>>> *above* the base plate under the rotor which makes changing the
>>>>>>>>> advance curve a five minute job.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the downside, I found out not so long ago that MSD gear is
>>>>>>>>> now made in China, and that gave me cause to be concerned as
>>>>>>>>> Chinese automotive electrical components don't have a stellar
>>>>>>>>> reputation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, that theory was confirmed yesterday morning when I was
>>>>>>>>> coming back home from a trip into town when the thing suddenly
>>>>>>>>> started carrying on like crazy and would refuse to run for more
>>>>>>>>> than a couple of seconds. Long story short after much pushing,
>>>>>>>>> swearing and short stop start driving I managed to get it home
>>>>>>>>> and start my diagnosis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Checked everything. Coil, wiring, relays, temperature, the lot.
>>>>>>>>> Nothing seemed to be out of order. Last thing left to do was
>>>>>>>>> pull the distributor and have a look at it, but given that it
>>>>>>>>> was fitted brand new and has only *just* clocked 2000 miles I
>>>>>>>>> wasn't expecting it to be where the problem lay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Murphy's first law of automotive diagnosis: Assume nothing :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The distributor shaft needs to be removed to remove the base
>>>>>>>>> plate and get to the ignition module. As I was peering under
>>>>>>>>> the module when lifting it as far as the wiring harness would
>>>>>>>>> allow, I saw this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQ7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uh-oh :) I don't think that should be there :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The wiring harness sheath had melted itself together, so after
>>>>>>>>> cutting if off and removing the base plate, the ignition module
>>>>>>>>> looked like this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQ9
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fucking nasty. Massive overheat by the looks, but this thing
>>>>>>>>> was wired *exactly* as MSD's instruction book said it needed to
>>>>>>>>> be. The melted brown wire was actually jammed in between the
>>>>>>>>> capacitor and the remaining resistor where it met up with the
>>>>>>>>> other three wires and was fed out through the sheath in the
>>>>>>>>> lower part of the housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And on the other side, we had this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just fuck. Massive fail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I said, this is a new distributor that the previous owner
>>>>>>>>> paid over a thousand bucks for, it's done just over 2000 miles
>>>>>>>>> and it has been installed *precisely* as instructed buy the
>>>>>>>>> company who made it. Pretty piss fucking poor if you ask me,
>>>>>>>>> and a *perfect* example of how paying high prices for "brand
>>>>>>>>> names" isn't all that great an idea these days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The solution is to buy a new replacement ignition module which
>>>>>>>>> comes as a "kit" which includes the module itself, the base
>>>>>>>>> plate, the advance plate and the magnetic pick up. But given
>>>>>>>>> that they're 300 bucks Australian and and are 6 weeks away in
>>>>>>>>> the US, I'm not all that keen to wait that long let alone to
>>>>>>>>> pay that kind of money only to have the exact same thing that
>>>>>>>>> fucked up in the first place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So we move to plan B, which is to try using a remote ignition
>>>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given that the triggering mechanism in the distributor is a
>>>>>>>>> basic single pole reluctor it should work with *any* generic
>>>>>>>>> module like a Bosch 021 or a GM HEI, and given that I have both
>>>>>>>>> of those here and nothing else to lose my plan is to gut the
>>>>>>>>> distributor and just leave the reluctor and pickup in place and
>>>>>>>>> feed those into a 4 pin HEI module which I can mount in an
>>>>>>>>> enclosure on the firewall. I can't see why it wouldn't work,
>>>>>>>>> and I'll know by this time tomorrow if it does. If it does it
>>>>>>>>> will be a good cheap home brew fix that will hopefully help
>>>>>>>>> other MSD owners avoid a massive repair bill.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the mean time, if anyone's thinking of purchasing automotive
>>>>>>>>> ignition products any time soon my recommendation would be to
>>>>>>>>> stay the *fuck* away from anything offered by MSD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A bit of a disaster! We have a destroyed MOSFET, an exploded
>>>>>>>> capacitor, a burnt wire and a resistor that has got so hot that
>>>>>>>> it has melted its solder connections.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The capacitor that has exploded is interesting, without a
>>>>>>>> circuit I'd have to guess that it performs the same function as
>>>>>>>> the condensor (an ancient name for a capacitor) in a Kettering
>>>>>>>> ignition system i.e. absorbing the back EMF from the primary of
>>>>>>>> the coil when the points open or in this case when the MOSFET
>>>>>>>> switches off. If that were the case then the MOSFET would get
>>>>>>>> the whole back EMF and self destruct. The resistor that fell out
>>>>>>>> could possibly be a ballast resistor, if the MOSFET failed short
>>>>>>>> circuit then 12v would be constantly across the coil primary and
>>>>>>>> the resistor in series and the resistor would be dissipating
>>>>>>>> rather more power than it was designed for (remember the days
>>>>>>>> when it was recommended not to leave the ignition on for long
>>>>>>>> periods with the engine stopped to avoid overheating the ballast
>>>>>>>> resistor). The wire is only burned in on spot, probably because
>>>>>>>> it was in contact with the resistor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The upshot is that my guess is that the capacitor was underrated
>>>>>>>> and its demise lead to all of this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a few components that need to be checked if a repair is
>>>>>>> attempted. Since he reported erratic ignition stumble prior to
>>>>>>> failure I know *exactly* where I would start. The repair is
>>>>>>> trivial, anyone with basic electronics knowledge and soldering
>>>>>>> skill can fix it for a few dollars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously the MOSFET and capacitor would need to be replaced, the
>>>>>> capacitor with a higher working voltage item. R23 could probably
>>>>>> just be soldered back in (after checking it) and the orange wire
>>>>>> replaced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then work from there, possibly being suspicious of the coil.
>>>>>
>>>>> A reasonable assumption however a Zener diode is prone to failure
>>>>> on certain MSD distributors the symptom of which might be commonly
>>>>> noted as an "erratic ignition stumble" prior to MOSFET failure. The
>>>>> Zener diode has an important (and fairly typical, I'm sure you can
>>>>> work out) role in this design and also must be replaced. The issue
>>>>> is not of cheapness of components or "China" but of lousy design by
>>>>> MSD.
>>>>
>>>> Knowing nothing about MSD distributors other than those 3 pictures,
>>>> you may well be right.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It a common fault. The Zener is used to regulate the voltage and when
>>> it fails the rest follows as seen here.
>>>
>>> I expect Google to be pretty sluggish with the fraud busy Googling
>>> what a Zener diode looks like. Maybe I should send him a few, then
>>> he'll know :-)
>>
>> It's not what I'd expect to cause this problem, a failed zener would
>> be very unlikely to cause the capacitor to explode.
>
> You would if you understood the circuit. You don't think unregulated
> supply voltage way above what is expected has consequences on a circuit
> that switches a coil?
>
> You said it yourself "Knowing nothing about MSD distributors other than
> those 3 pictures, you may well be right."
>
> I'm right and it's a typical failure.
>
Since a capacitor in that position would be rated to at least several
hundred volts, how is a zener failure in a 12v system going to kill it?

On 3/11/2021 2:52 pm, jonz wrote:
> On 11/3/2021 12:15 PM, Clocky wrote:

>> I'm not only a qualified mechanic but *also* a qualified auto sparky
>> which is pretty much what I've been doing the last 5 years. I knew
>> what both of these clowns combined know today about electronics by the
>> time I was 8 years old.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  UH-HUH....Inferiority writ large there.. W O'B.

Hahahahaha :)

For fuck's sake. How shallow can this cunt get? :)

>>
>> But that is beside the point... automotive electrical is very much a
>> component of the automotive mechanical trade, he would know that had
>> he ever completed an apprenticeship.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Very much?, not so, Only  the basics. (As with windscreens.)
>
>>
>> It's funny watching a failed dunny cleaner and his know-nuffin' mate
>> hate rage on someone who has walked the walk though :-)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Really?, and who would that be?.

If this fucking moron pats himself on the back any harder he'll rupture
a few internal organs :)

Seriously, have you ever seen *anyone* make such a fucking *dick* of
themselves over something that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do
with them?

Saying that this bloke has a personality disorder is a massive
understatement.

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Noddy.

On 3/11/2021 3:04 pm, jonz wrote:
> On 11/3/2021 12:25 PM, Clocky wrote:

>>> Its actually very bizzare, carrying on implying that "qualified"
>>> mechanics would know all about electronics so they could fix
>>> something like that easily.
>>> If he actually knew any mechanics he would know that very few of us
>>> know anything about electronics simply because its a completely
>>> different trade
>>
>> No it isn't you fucking numpty. Auto-electrics is very much part of
>> the auto electrical trade
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> No shit Sherlock??...

ROFTL :) He's frothing at the mouth *so* bad he has no idea what he's
saying :)

*Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream mechanics
curriculum, but specialist autolec training including electronics is
not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate qualification. Of
course, if he thinks this isn't the case then perhaps he could take a
moment to explain why he needed to do an autolec course if it was
already taught to him as a mechanic's apprentice.

You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
showing anything to anyone.

Must be something about the Dutch. No wonder they piss in each other's
pockets so much.

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Noddy.

On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:19:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> Seriously, have you ever seen *anyone* make such a fucking *dick* of
> themselves over something that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do
> with them?

That's one of the easiest own goals in the history of easy own goals.

> Saying that this bloke has a personality disorder is a massive
> understatement.

"And now he puts another one in his own net!!! It's yet another bad day for
the Bumhole (Vic) Bogans FC."

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:32:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:

>
> You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
> parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
> themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
> showing anything to anyone.

This should count for more than one own goal. A LOT MORE.

Sheeeet Fraudster!
You lied about owning a business.
You lied about having multiple quals.
You lied about being from a "dirt poor" family.
You lied about your father being a Korean Digger.
You lied about being "comfortably off".
You lied about Honda sending you to Japan.
You lied about owning property.
And shedloads of minor lies.

And what's the consistent theme? You trying to "big-note" yourself.
And what's the consistently missing component? Your *total* lack of proof.

You're a loser Der Der. Always have been, always will be.

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On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/11/2021 3:04 pm, jonz wrote:
>> On 11/3/2021 12:25 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>> Its actually very bizzare, carrying on implying that "qualified"
>>>> mechanics would know all about electronics so they could fix
>>>> something like that easily.
>>>> If he actually knew any mechanics he would know that very few of us
>>>> know anything about electronics simply because its a completely
>>>> different trade
>>>
>>> No it isn't you fucking numpty. Auto-electrics is very much part of
>>> the auto electrical trade
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> No shit Sherlock??...
>
> ROFTL :) He's frothing at the mouth *so* bad he has no idea what he's
> saying :)
>
> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream mechanics

Always has been Darren. Ask me how I know! ;-) Electrical is the largest
single component of the motor mechanics curriculum by far. But you
wouldn't know that since you've never spent a single day of your life as
an apprentice.

> curriculum, but specialist autolec training including electronics is
> not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate qualification. Of

If your reading skills were up to snuff, you would have been able to see
that Clocky did his auto-electrical studies very recently. He stated so
as recently as a post in this thread. It's your mate Daryl who seems to
think electrical isn't part of the motor mechanics trade.

> course, if he thinks this isn't the case then perhaps he could take a
> moment to explain why he needed to do an autolec course if it was
> already taught to him as a mechanic's apprentice.

Hey Darren, I've done *advanced auto electrical* and that *still* wasn't
as comprehensive as the full auto electrician training. But then, it
covered something that wasn't in the auto electrical training I did
during my apprenticeship - that which involved electronic fuel injection
and other exotica not present in cars of the 50s, 60s and 70s. It was a
course run at the college for mechanics in the trade who needed to
*update* their skills. The smart mechanics do that, you know. The
dumbarses who don't find themselves irrelevant to the trade and in
charge of a mop & bucket. Know anyone like that Darren?
>
> You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
> parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
> themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
> showing anything to anyone.

Big noting Darren? You're looking in a mirror again. And big noting
about things you have *never achieved*. FFS, you weren't ever even
*signed up* to any apprenticeship ever. Yet you claim three (3)!!!
Far be it for you to comment on the achievements of others Darren. At
least our achievements are real, all of yours are as fake as you are.
>
> Must be something about the Dutch. No wonder they piss in each other's
> pockets so much.

The Dutch don't do what you and Daryl are doing. You two are doing a
real tribute to the pocket pissing. I'll bet you two stink like a high
care nursing home!

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On 3/11/21 6:42 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:32:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>>
>> You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
>> parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
>> themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
>> showing anything to anyone.
>
> This should count for more than one own goal. A LOT MORE.
>
> Sheeeet Fraudster!
> You lied about owning a business.
> You lied about having multiple quals.
> You lied about being from a "dirt poor" family.
> You lied about your father being a Korean Digger.
> You lied about being "comfortably off".
> You lied about Honda sending you to Japan.
> You lied about owning property.
> And shedloads of minor lies.

You missed one. Darren lied about doing three (3) apprenticeships.
That's not a *minor lie*. That lie *underpins* his biggest lie, the lie
that he has trade qualifications, multiple trade qualifications. Most
people would have stopped at claiming one - but not Darren. The
narcissism is huge in that sociopath.
>
> And what's the consistent theme? You trying to "big-note" yourself.

What is amazing that he lacks sufficient insight to see that obvious
fact himself.

> And what's the consistently missing component? Your *total* lack of proof.
>
> You're a loser Der Der. Always have been, always will be.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>

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On 3/11/21 6:18 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:19:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> Seriously, have you ever seen *anyone* make such a fucking *dick* of
>> themselves over something that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do
>> with them?
>
> That's one of the easiest own goals in the history of easy own goals.

I just love it when Darren say he doesn't read our posts. I love it even
more when he proves he reads every single one. ;-)
>
>> Saying that this bloke has a personality disorder is a massive
>> understatement.
>
> "And now he puts another one in his own net!!! It's yet another bad day for
> the Bumhole (Vic) Bogans FC."
>
>
>
> alvey
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>

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On 11/3/2021 6:18 PM, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:19:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>> Seriously, have you ever seen *anyone* make such a fucking *dick* of
>> themselves over something that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do
>> with them?
> That's one of the easiest own goals in the history of easy own goals.
>
>> Saying that this bloke has a personality disorder is a massive
>> understatement.
> "And now he puts another one in his own net!!! It's yet another bad day for
> the Bumhole (Vic) Bogans FC."
>
>
>
> alvey
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On 3/11/2021 4:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/11/21 6:18 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:19:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> Seriously, have you ever seen *anyone* make such a fucking *dick* of
>>> themselves over something that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do
>>> with them?
>>
>> That's one of the easiest own goals in the history of easy own goals.
>
> I just love it when Darren say he doesn't read our posts. I love it even
> more when he proves he reads every single one.   ;-)

Best yet when he gets all upset because he was never smart enough to get
any qualification.

On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/11/2021 3:04 pm, jonz wrote:
>> On 11/3/2021 12:25 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>> Its actually very bizzare, carrying on implying that "qualified"
>>>> mechanics would know all about electronics so they could fix
>>>> something like that easily.
>>>> If he actually knew any mechanics he would know that very few of us
>>>> know anything about electronics simply because its a completely
>>>> different trade
>>>
>>> No it isn't you fucking numpty. Auto-electrics is very much part of
>>> the auto electrical trade
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> No shit Sherlock??...
>
> ROFTL :) He's frothing at the mouth *so* bad he has no idea what he's
> saying :)
>
> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream mechanics
> curriculum, but specialist autolec training including electronics is
> not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate qualification. Of
> course, if he thinks this isn't the case then perhaps he could take a
> moment to explain why he needed to do an autolec course if it was
> already taught to him as a mechanic's apprentice.

He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto electrics
and electronics.
Sure there are a lot of electronic components in cars but I don't know
of or have ever heard of mechanics being expected to repair circuit
boards, if an electronic part is found to be faulty its either replaced
or sent out to a "specialist" for repair.
Some mechanics may be able to do that sort of work but it certainly
isn't part of a normal mechanics duties.

--
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On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream mechanics
>> curriculum, but specialist autolec training including electronics is
>> not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate qualification. Of
>> course, if he thinks this isn't the case then perhaps he could take a
>> moment to explain why he needed to do an autolec course if it was
>> already taught to him as a mechanic's apprentice.
>
>
> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto electrics
> and electronics.

No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The way
he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his manhood :)

He's absolutely mental :)

> Sure there are a lot of electronic components in cars but I don't know
> of or have ever heard of mechanics being expected to repair circuit
> boards, if an electronic part is found to be faulty its either replaced
> or sent out to a "specialist" for repair.

Very few mechanics repair *anything* these days. I still do because I
can and I enjoy it and prefer to fix something rather than send it to
landfill, but that's not everyone's cup of tea.

> Some mechanics may be able to do that sort of work but it certainly
> isn't part of a normal mechanics duties.

Not even close.

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Noddy.

On 3/11/21 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 3/11/2021 3:04 pm, jonz wrote:
>>> On 11/3/2021 12:25 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>> Its actually very bizzare, carrying on implying that "qualified"
>>>>> mechanics would know all about electronics so they could fix
>>>>> something like that easily.
>>>>> If he actually knew any mechanics he would know that very few of us
>>>>> know anything about electronics simply because its a completely
>>>>> different trade
>>>>
>>>> No it isn't you fucking numpty. Auto-electrics is very much part of
>>>> the auto electrical trade
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> No shit Sherlock??...
>>
>> ROFTL :) He's frothing at the mouth *so* bad he has no idea what he's
>> saying :)
>>
>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream mechanics
>> curriculum, but specialist autolec training including electronics is
>> not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate qualification. Of
>> course, if he thinks this isn't the case then perhaps he could take a
>> moment to explain why he needed to do an autolec course if it was
>> already taught to him as a mechanic's apprentice.
>
>
> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto electrics
> and electronics.

I think you'll find he does. You'll also find that his interest in
electronics is, like my interest in that topic, exactly that, an
interest. The difference between he and I is he took his interest to the
professional level. Mine is and remains relatively amateur. I do still
know how to find my way around automotive electronics components and
systems. You, on the other hand, just bullshit your way along. That's sad!

> Sure there are a lot of electronic components in cars but I don't know
> of or have ever heard of mechanics being expected to repair circuit
> boards, if an electronic part is found to be faulty its either replaced

Nobody is expecting a mechanic to repair a circuit board. For that
matter, if you look at the auto electrical industry as a whole, even
components like starter motors and alternators don't get repaired much
any more. Yet motor mechanics still get taught how to do that job. If
you and Darren had actually worked in the trade, you would surely know
this and be aware that even the manufacturers don't want you repairing
components any more, especially so with electronics.

> or sent out to a "specialist" for repair.

Only if the item cannot be sourced new. For instance, a lot of
alternators can be sourced new cheaper than getting the same component
rebuilt by a specialist.

> Some mechanics may be able to do that sort of work but it certainly
> isn't part of a normal mechanics duties.

Much of a motor mechanic's work role these days is focused on
*diagnosis*. The task of R&R falls to numpties, just like you in fact,
who allow your trade career to stagnate. Have a look in any dealership -
they are staffed with a few techs who can diagnose, a few stagnant
mechanics who can follow orders and replace bits, and a heap of
apprentices.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 19:03:45 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 3/11/21 6:42 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:32:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
>>> parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
>>> themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
>>> showing anything to anyone.
>>
>> This should count for more than one own goal. A LOT MORE.
>>
>> Sheeeet Fraudster!
>> You lied about owning a business.
>> You lied about having multiple quals.
>> You lied about being from a "dirt poor" family.
>> You lied about your father being a Korean Digger.
>> You lied about being "comfortably off".
>> You lied about Honda sending you to Japan.
>> You lied about owning property.
>> And shedloads of minor lies.
>
> You missed one. Darren lied about doing three (3) apprenticeships.

Doesn't "You lied about having multiple quals" cover that?

> That's not a *minor lie*. That lie *underpins* his biggest lie, the lie
> that he has trade qualifications, multiple trade qualifications. Most
> people would have stopped at claiming one - but not Darren. The
> narcissism is huge in that sociopath.

Oh absolutely rampant. Luckily he lacks the worldliness and intelligence to
pull it off, providing endless opportunities to expose and laugh at the
little tryhard.

alvey
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On 4/11/21 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 19:03:45 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 3/11/21 6:42 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:32:59 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know, the more this moron bangs on about how good he is the more
>>>> parallels you see between him and Clasener. They bloth love big-noting
>>>> themselves to the max, but they're both *very* light on when it comes to
>>>> showing anything to anyone.
>>>
>>> This should count for more than one own goal. A LOT MORE.
>>>
>>> Sheeeet Fraudster!
>>> You lied about owning a business.
>>> You lied about having multiple quals.
>>> You lied about being from a "dirt poor" family.
>>> You lied about your father being a Korean Digger.
>>> You lied about being "comfortably off".
>>> You lied about Honda sending you to Japan.
>>> You lied about owning property.
>>> And shedloads of minor lies.
>>
>> You missed one. Darren lied about doing three (3) apprenticeships.
>
> Doesn't "You lied about having multiple quals" cover that?

Not quite. He claims two (2) trade qualifications but he claims three
(3) apprenticeships, the first one (AME) being a "bridge way too far".
Of course, given the Victorian industrial and training legislation in
vogue at that time, once he made the AME Claim, the remaining two became
illegal. The irony here, had Darren claimed just one (fake)
apprenticeship, say, his claimed auto machining trade, I probably
wouldn't have questioned it. His biggest problem was he claimed motor
mechanics but then proceeded to display a significant lack of knowledge
or awareness of the apprenticeship system and topics that any normal
person simply could not have missed. I knew the motor mechanics
curriculum inside out thus knew he'd never been within cooee of any
apprentice class anywhere ever! Such a lying little turd he is.
>
>> That's not a *minor lie*. That lie *underpins* his biggest lie, the lie
>> that he has trade qualifications, multiple trade qualifications. Most
>> people would have stopped at claiming one - but not Darren. The
>> narcissism is huge in that sociopath.
>
> Oh absolutely rampant. Luckily he lacks the worldliness and intelligence to
> pull it off, providing endless opportunities to expose and laugh at the
> little tryhard.
>
I just loved it when he tried to project *his* lack of worldliness onto
me. That was so, so funny. More so when you realise he lives within 50
kilometres of where he was born.
>
>
> alvey
> 'Welcome to Bumhole! Please lock your vehicle'
>

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>
>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>> apprentice.
>>
>>
>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>> electrics and electronics.
>
> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The way
> he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his manhood :)

You protest too much!
>
> He's absolutely mental :)

You are for sure.
>
>> Sure there are a lot of electronic components in cars but I don't know
>> of or have ever heard of mechanics being expected to repair circuit
>> boards, if an electronic part is found to be faulty its either
>> replaced or sent out to a "specialist" for repair.
>
> Very few mechanics repair *anything* these days. I still do because I
> can and I enjoy it and prefer to fix something rather than send it to
> landfill, but that's not everyone's cup of tea.
>
>> Some mechanics may be able to do that sort of work but it certainly
>> isn't part of a normal mechanics duties.
>
> Not even close.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/11/2021 2:17 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 2/11/2021 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 2/11/2021 4:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2021 5:56 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 2/11/2021 2:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2021 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/11/2021 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2021 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 31/10/2021 11:55 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/10/2021 9:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OT: Car post
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As most of you are aware I own a 1956 Ford F-100. It's a cool
>>>>>>>>>> old thing and I love it to death.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was put together by a bloke who really had no idea what he
>>>>>>>>>> was doing, and I've been chasing problems with it ever since I
>>>>>>>>>> bought it last year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's coming good, and I've got most stuff sorted on it, but
>>>>>>>>>> one problem thing it's had since the day I got the thing is an
>>>>>>>>>> intermittent ignition stumble, and because it's been *very*
>>>>>>>>>> random it's been terribly hard to pinpoint.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Until yesterday :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The truck has it's original 272 cube Y Block V8 that was
>>>>>>>>>> reconditioned not long before I bought the thing, and is
>>>>>>>>>> standard apart from having an alloy 4 barrel manifold, an
>>>>>>>>>> Edelbrock 1405 carb, a nice set of ceramic coated headers and
>>>>>>>>>> an MSD "ready to run" distributor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One of these:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vpw.com.au/parts/MSD-8383
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These ready to run things are a quick and easy convert to
>>>>>>>>>> electronic ignition for older shitheaps like this, as they're
>>>>>>>>>> all fully self contained with a single pole reluctor trigger
>>>>>>>>>> and an ignition module mounted under the base plate. All they
>>>>>>>>>> need is a power feed from the coil and they're good to go.
>>>>>>>>>> They also have a couple of cool features such as a built in
>>>>>>>>>> rev limiter which is programmed by momentarily earthing the
>>>>>>>>>> tach signal wire while the engine is running, and their best
>>>>>>>>>> feature in my opinion is that the mechanical advance mechanism
>>>>>>>>>> is *above* the base plate under the rotor which makes changing
>>>>>>>>>> the advance curve a five minute job.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the downside, I found out not so long ago that MSD gear is
>>>>>>>>>> now made in China, and that gave me cause to be concerned as
>>>>>>>>>> Chinese automotive electrical components don't have a stellar
>>>>>>>>>> reputation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, that theory was confirmed yesterday morning when I was
>>>>>>>>>> coming back home from a trip into town when the thing suddenly
>>>>>>>>>> started carrying on like crazy and would refuse to run for
>>>>>>>>>> more than a couple of seconds. Long story short after much
>>>>>>>>>> pushing, swearing and short stop start driving I managed to
>>>>>>>>>> get it home and start my diagnosis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Checked everything. Coil, wiring, relays, temperature, the
>>>>>>>>>> lot. Nothing seemed to be out of order. Last thing left to do
>>>>>>>>>> was pull the distributor and have a look at it, but given that
>>>>>>>>>> it was fitted brand new and has only *just* clocked 2000 miles
>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't expecting it to be where the problem lay.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Murphy's first law of automotive diagnosis: Assume nothing :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The distributor shaft needs to be removed to remove the base
>>>>>>>>>> plate and get to the ignition module. As I was peering under
>>>>>>>>>> the module when lifting it as far as the wiring harness would
>>>>>>>>>> allow, I saw this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQ7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uh-oh :) I don't think that should be there :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The wiring harness sheath had melted itself together, so after
>>>>>>>>>> cutting if off and removing the base plate, the ignition
>>>>>>>>>> module looked like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQ9
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fucking nasty. Massive overheat by the looks, but this thing
>>>>>>>>>> was wired *exactly* as MSD's instruction book said it needed
>>>>>>>>>> to be. The melted brown wire was actually jammed in between
>>>>>>>>>> the capacitor and the remaining resistor where it met up with
>>>>>>>>>> the other three wires and was fed out through the sheath in
>>>>>>>>>> the lower part of the housing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the other side, we had this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME4MPQB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just fuck. Massive fail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I said, this is a new distributor that the previous owner
>>>>>>>>>> paid over a thousand bucks for, it's done just over 2000 miles
>>>>>>>>>> and it has been installed *precisely* as instructed buy the
>>>>>>>>>> company who made it. Pretty piss fucking poor if you ask me,
>>>>>>>>>> and a *perfect* example of how paying high prices for "brand
>>>>>>>>>> names" isn't all that great an idea these days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The solution is to buy a new replacement ignition module which
>>>>>>>>>> comes as a "kit" which includes the module itself, the base
>>>>>>>>>> plate, the advance plate and the magnetic pick up. But given
>>>>>>>>>> that they're 300 bucks Australian and and are 6 weeks away in
>>>>>>>>>> the US, I'm not all that keen to wait that long let alone to
>>>>>>>>>> pay that kind of money only to have the exact same thing that
>>>>>>>>>> fucked up in the first place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So we move to plan B, which is to try using a remote ignition
>>>>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Given that the triggering mechanism in the distributor is a
>>>>>>>>>> basic single pole reluctor it should work with *any* generic
>>>>>>>>>> module like a Bosch 021 or a GM HEI, and given that I have
>>>>>>>>>> both of those here and nothing else to lose my plan is to gut
>>>>>>>>>> the distributor and just leave the reluctor and pickup in
>>>>>>>>>> place and feed those into a 4 pin HEI module which I can mount
>>>>>>>>>> in an enclosure on the firewall. I can't see why it wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> work, and I'll know by this time tomorrow if it does. If it
>>>>>>>>>> does it will be a good cheap home brew fix that will hopefully
>>>>>>>>>> help other MSD owners avoid a massive repair bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the mean time, if anyone's thinking of purchasing
>>>>>>>>>> automotive ignition products any time soon my recommendation
>>>>>>>>>> would be to stay the *fuck* away from anything offered by MSD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bit of a disaster! We have a destroyed MOSFET, an exploded
>>>>>>>>> capacitor, a burnt wire and a resistor that has got so hot that
>>>>>>>>> it has melted its solder connections.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The capacitor that has exploded is interesting, without a
>>>>>>>>> circuit I'd have to guess that it performs the same function as
>>>>>>>>> the condensor (an ancient name for a capacitor) in a Kettering
>>>>>>>>> ignition system i.e. absorbing the back EMF from the primary of
>>>>>>>>> the coil when the points open or in this case when the MOSFET
>>>>>>>>> switches off. If that were the case then the MOSFET would get
>>>>>>>>> the whole back EMF and self destruct. The resistor that fell
>>>>>>>>> out could possibly be a ballast resistor, if the MOSFET failed
>>>>>>>>> short circuit then 12v would be constantly across the coil
>>>>>>>>> primary and the resistor in series and the resistor would be
>>>>>>>>> dissipating rather more power than it was designed for
>>>>>>>>> (remember the days when it was recommended not to leave the
>>>>>>>>> ignition on for long periods with the engine stopped to avoid
>>>>>>>>> overheating the ballast resistor). The wire is only burned in
>>>>>>>>> on spot, probably because it was in contact with the resistor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The upshot is that my guess is that the capacitor was
>>>>>>>>> underrated and its demise lead to all of this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are a few components that need to be checked if a repair
>>>>>>>> is attempted. Since he reported erratic ignition stumble prior
>>>>>>>> to failure I know *exactly* where I would start. The repair is
>>>>>>>> trivial, anyone with basic electronics knowledge and soldering
>>>>>>>> skill can fix it for a few dollars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously the MOSFET and capacitor would need to be replaced, the
>>>>>>> capacitor with a higher working voltage item. R23 could probably
>>>>>>> just be soldered back in (after checking it) and the orange wire
>>>>>>> replaced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then work from there, possibly being suspicious of the coil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A reasonable assumption however a Zener diode is prone to failure
>>>>>> on certain MSD distributors the symptom of which might be commonly
>>>>>> noted as an "erratic ignition stumble" prior to MOSFET failure.
>>>>>> The Zener diode has an important (and fairly typical, I'm sure you
>>>>>> can work out) role in this design and also must be replaced. The
>>>>>> issue is not of cheapness of components or "China" but of lousy
>>>>>> design by MSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Knowing nothing about MSD distributors other than those 3 pictures,
>>>>> you may well be right.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It a common fault. The Zener is used to regulate the voltage and
>>>> when it fails the rest follows as seen here.
>>>>
>>>> I expect Google to be pretty sluggish with the fraud busy Googling
>>>> what a Zener diode looks like. Maybe I should send him a few, then
>>>> he'll know :-)
>>>
>>> It's not what I'd expect to cause this problem, a failed zener would
>>> be very unlikely to cause the capacitor to explode.
>>
>> You would if you understood the circuit. You don't think unregulated
>> supply voltage way above what is expected has consequences on a
>> circuit that switches a coil?
>>
>> You said it yourself "Knowing nothing about MSD distributors other
>> than those 3 pictures, you may well be right."
>>
>> I'm right and it's a typical failure.
>>
> Since a capacitor in that position would be rated to at least several
> hundred volts, how is a zener failure in a 12v system going to kill it?

On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>> apprentice.
>>>
>>>
>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>> electrics and electronics.
>>
>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The way
>> he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his manhood :)
>
> You protest too much!
>>
>> He's absolutely mental :)
>
> You are for sure.

I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.

I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that can
blow the guts out of these distributors too.

On 11/11/21 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>>> apprentice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>>> electrics and electronics.
>>>
>>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The way
>>> he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his manhood :)
>>
>> You protest too much!
>>>
>>> He's absolutely mental :)
>>
>> You are for sure.
>
> I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.
>
> I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that can
> blow the guts out of these distributors too.
>
Aha! Yes indeed! Not only distributors - alternator diodes and sundry
other electronic bits and pieces.

Now, had Darren actually done an automotive apprenticeship, he would
have been *taught* how to avoid blowing up sensitive electronic bits and
pieces in welding classes. You know, those welding classes he
definitively stated did not exist. Well, until Daryl contradicted him by
saying he did welding as part of his apprenticeship. Shot Darren down in
flames he did! And I laughed.

--

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 11/11/2021 11:12 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/21 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>>>> apprentice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>>>> electrics and electronics.
>>>>
>>>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The
>>>> way he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his manhood :)
>>>
>>> You protest too much!
>>>>
>>>> He's absolutely mental :)
>>>
>>> You are for sure.
>>
>> I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.
>>
>> I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that can
>> blow the guts out of these distributors too.
>>
> Aha!  Yes indeed! Not only distributors - alternator diodes and sundry
> other electronic bits and pieces.
>
> Now, had Darren actually done an automotive apprenticeship, he would
> have been *taught* how to avoid blowing up sensitive electronic bits and
> pieces in welding classes. You know, those welding classes he
> definitively stated did not exist. Well, until Daryl contradicted him by
> saying he did welding as part of his apprenticeship. Shot Darren down in
> flames he did! And I laughed.
>

He seemingly has no idea what was covered in the auto-electrical
component of the automotive mechanical apprenticeship either.

Of course he can't know can he :-)

On 11/11/21 5:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 11/11/2021 11:12 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/21 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>>>>> apprentice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>>>>> electrics and electronics.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The
>>>>> way he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his
>>>>> manhood :)
>>>>
>>>> You protest too much!
>>>>>
>>>>> He's absolutely mental :)
>>>>
>>>> You are for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.
>>>
>>> I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that
>>> can blow the guts out of these distributors too.
>>>
>> Aha!  Yes indeed! Not only distributors - alternator diodes and sundry
>> other electronic bits and pieces.
>>
>> Now, had Darren actually done an automotive apprenticeship, he would
>> have been *taught* how to avoid blowing up sensitive electronic bits
>> and pieces in welding classes. You know, those welding classes he
>> definitively stated did not exist. Well, until Daryl contradicted him
>> by saying he did welding as part of his apprenticeship. Shot Darren
>> down in flames he did! And I laughed.
>>
>
>
> He seemingly has no idea what was covered in the auto-electrical
> component of the automotive mechanical apprenticeship either.
>
> Of course he can't know can he :-)
>
Nope, would need to actually have done an automotive apprenticeship and
attended the requisite 960 hours at a relevant TAFE college. He's never
ever done that, the facts (database records) or, the absence thereof,
prove it beyond a shadow of doubt.

--

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 11/11/2021 2:12 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/21 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>>>> apprentice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>>>> electrics and electronics.
>>>>
>>>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The
>>>> way he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his
>>>> manhood :)
>>>
>>> You protest too much!
>>>>
>>>> He's absolutely mental :)
>>>
>>> You are for sure.
>>
>> I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.
>>
>> I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that
>> can blow the guts out of these distributors too.
>>
> Aha!  Yes indeed! Not only distributors - alternator diodes and sundry
> other electronic bits and pieces.
>
> Now, had Darren actually done an automotive apprenticeship, he would
> have been *taught* how to avoid blowing up sensitive electronic bits
> and pieces in welding classes.

what is the method?

> You know, those welding classes he definitively stated did not exist.
> Well, until Daryl contradicted him by saying he did welding as part of
> his apprenticeship. Shot Darren down in flames he did! And I laughed.
>

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- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 11/11/2021 2:33 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/11/2021 2:12 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/21 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2021 6:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/21 10:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/2021 10:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/11/21 5:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Basic* auto electrics is part of the regular general stream
>>>>>>> mechanics curriculum, but specialist autolec training including
>>>>>>> electronics is not. That's why "auto electrician is a separate
>>>>>>> qualification. Of course, if he thinks this isn't the case then
>>>>>>> perhaps he could take a moment to explain why he needed to do an
>>>>>>> autolec course if it was already taught to him as a mechanic's
>>>>>>> apprentice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference between auto
>>>>>> electrics and electronics.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but he's a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world. The
>>>>> way he's carrying on over this is like it's an attack on his
>>>>> manhood :)
>>>>
>>>> You protest too much!
>>>>>
>>>>> He's absolutely mental :)
>>>>
>>>> You are for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what those clowns are smoking to be honest.
>>>
>>> I do wonder if he did some welding on his truck... apparently that
>>> can blow the guts out of these distributors too.
>>>
>> Aha!  Yes indeed! Not only distributors - alternator diodes and sundry
>> other electronic bits and pieces.
>>
>> Now, had Darren actually done an automotive apprenticeship, he would
>> have been *taught* how to avoid blowing up sensitive electronic bits
>> and pieces in welding classes.
>
>
> what is the method?
>
>

Disconnect the battery. It's entirely conceivable that pig-ignorant
know-nuffin' Derro thought, "I'll just chickenshit this bracket on
she'll be right"... and nek minnit it won't start.

Then it's China's fault because you know, nothing is ever his fault :-)