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+* FOAK :3D printersNick Odell
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|`* FOAK :3D printersMike Fleming
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|  `* FOAK :3D printerscrn
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|    +* FOAK :3D printersRustyHinge
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|    || `- FOAK :3D printersTease'n'Seize
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|    ||+* FOAK :3D printersNicholas D. Richards
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|    || +* FOAK :3D printersSam Plusnet
|    || |`* FOAK :3D printersThomas Prufer
|    || | `- FOAK :3D printersAhem A Rivet's Shot
|    || +* FOAK :3D printersRichard Robinson
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|    || |`* FOAK :3D printersPeter
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|    ||  |+* FOAK :3D printersDon Stockbauer
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|    ||  |`* FOAK :3D printersThomas Prufer
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|    ||  `- FOAK :3D printersRustyHinge
|    |+- FOAK :3D printersBernard Peek
|    |+- FOAK :3D printersmaus
|    |`* FOAK :3D printersChrisND@privacy.net
|    | +* FOAK :3D printersRustyHinge
|    | |`* FOAK :3D printersChrisND @UKRM
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|    | |   +- FOAK :3D printersKerr-Mudd, John
|    | |   `* FOAK :3D printersAhem A Rivet's Shot
|    | |    `* FOAK :3D printersTease'n'Seize
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|    | `- FOAK :3D printersChrisND@privacy.net
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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sat, 19 Mar 2022 20:45 UTC

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.

I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do it.
It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect (well as
perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like a laser.

OTOH I wooden print photographs on it, they'd look terrible. It's
fine for text, OK for diagrams and penc for anything else - it also
declines to misbehave and give me a decent excuse to replace it. Duplex,
better quality and laser would be nice now that I don't need A3, but it
jbexes and keeps on jbexing.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Thomas Prufer - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 07:30 UTC

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 20:03:54 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>Which is why I has a laser printer - I can't be doing with a inkjet
>that's bunged up almost every time I want it to jbex.
>
>As said up there somewhere. Colour Laser printers don't do photo
>quality (unless you have _really_ low standards).

I go to the local chemist that has a kiosk with photo printers, I think Kodak.
25 Eurocents for a single ten-by whatever, 20 if more than 20 photos. A4 ~400
Eurocents. I have used the photos as outdoor signage, unprotected in the
weather, and the red will show fading after about three years, but facing South.
The glossy top laminate or foil holds up.

Thomas Prufer

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 by: Bernard Peek - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:30 UTC

On 2022-03-19, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 12:58, soup wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 00:57, crn@nospam.com wrote:
>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>> How much are you actually going to print.
>>> Probably cheaper and easier to prepare the files and send them to
>>> a professional 3d printinh house.
>>
>> Yeah, but not as much 'fun'.
>>
>> Do do that sort of thing with colour photoprints (as my home printer
>> will do it but I cannot afford a printer of the quality required).
>
> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
> won't it?

No. The print quality from inkjet printers is often better than that from
laser printers. If you really want photographic quality pictures then either
use a high-end inkjet or an online print service like Photobox.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com

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 by: Bernard Peek - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:39 UTC

On 2022-03-19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
>> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.
>
> I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
> about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
> scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do it.
> It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect (well as
> perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like a laser.

Don't know whether it's still true but last time I looked Epson printers
gave the best print quality but would get blocked print-heads if you left
them unused for more than a couple of weeks. Then you had to throw the
printer away, it wasn't repairable.

Other brands replaced the print-heads with every new ink cartridge so
blocked print-heads was not terminal.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:47 UTC

On 20/03/2022 10:39, Bernard Peek wrote:
> On 2022-03-19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
>>> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.
>>
>> I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
>> about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
>> scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do it.
>> It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect (well as
>> perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like a laser.
>
> Don't know whether it's still true but last time I looked Epson printers
> gave the best print quality but would get blocked print-heads if you left
> them unused for more than a couple of weeks. Then you had to throw the
> printer away, it wasn't repairable.
>
> Other brands replaced the print-heads with every new ink cartridge so
> blocked print-heads was not terminal.

Not in my experience. I was in hospital/respite care for ages and ages
and ages (more than 18 munce) and using the 'clean' facility after a bit
of gentle steaming restored its function to normal.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: Peter - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:07 UTC

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20220319204550.22d2ccc430578ca603726767@eircom.net:

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print
>> every year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of
>> reservoirs.
>
> I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
> about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
> scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do
> it. It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect
> (well as perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like
> a laser.
>
> OTOH I wooden print photographs on it, they'd look terrible. It's
> fine for text, OK for diagrams and penc for anything else - it also
> declines to misbehave and give me a decent excuse to replace it.
> Duplex, better quality and laser would be nice now that I don't need
> A3, but it jbexes and keeps on jbexing.
>

My Canon inkjet lasted years and years and worked very well, until it
didn't. When I had to look round for a replacement the only brand in stock
anywhere was HP, which past experience has told me to avoid when possible.
I couldn't avoid it so I got a Deskjet for very little zbarl, thinking I
would change it as soon as Canons were available again. That was a few
years ago now and I've grown quite fond of the Deskjet - it can stay for
now.

--
Peter
-----

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:12 UTC

On 20 Mar 2022 10:39:48 GMT
Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:

> On 2022-03-19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
> > RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print
> >> every year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of
> >> reservoirs.
> >
> > I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
> > about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
> > scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do
> > it. It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect
> > (well as perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like
> > a laser.
>
> Don't know whether it's still true but last time I looked Epson printers
> gave the best print quality but would get blocked print-heads if you left
> them unused for more than a couple of weeks. Then you had to throw the
> printer away, it wasn't repairable.

That's certainly common wisdom but ...

> Other brands replaced the print-heads with every new ink cartridge so
> blocked print-heads was not terminal.

My Brother has fixed print heads and ink tanks, but never jams. If
it had good print quality and was fast it would be a great printer, it has
adequate print quality for office style use and is not fast. I think it's
down to the effectiveness of the cleaning cycle and the ink composition
both of which get a lot of work by printer manufacturers.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:08 UTC

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:30:34 +0100
Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:

> I have used the photos as outdoor signage, unprotected in the
> weather, and the red will show fading after about three years, but facing
> South. The glossy top laminate or foil holds up.

That's pretty impressive.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Richard Robinson - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:44 UTC

Peter said:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:20220319204550.22d2ccc430578ca603726767@eircom.net:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:16:51 +0000
>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print
>>> every year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of
>>> reservoirs.
>>
>> I have been pleasantly surprised by the rBtoehr inkjet I ohled
>> about a quarter K fortnights ago because I needed to have A3 printing,
>> scanning and copying and it was the purncrest thing I could find to do
>> it. It will happily sit for months on end and then print a perfect
>> (well as perfect as it ever does) page with no fuss at all - much like
>> a laser.
>>
>> OTOH I wooden print photographs on it, they'd look terrible. It's
>> fine for text, OK for diagrams and penc for anything else - it also
>> declines to misbehave and give me a decent excuse to replace it.
>> Duplex, better quality and laser would be nice now that I don't need
>> A3, but it jbexes and keeps on jbexing.
>>
>
> My Canon inkjet lasted years and years and worked very well, until it
> didn't. When I had to look round for a replacement the only brand in stock
> anywhere was HP, which past experience has told me to avoid when possible.
> I couldn't avoid it so I got a Deskjet for very little zbarl, thinking I
> would change it as soon as Canons were available again. That was a few
> years ago now and I've grown quite fond of the Deskjet - it can stay for
> now.

In the days when I had an inkjet, The Manual referred to cleaning
functionality provided by the windows driver. I was on linux, and found
myself needing new wotsits pretty much every time I had to print
everything - which, obv, was not frequently enough to suit the machine's
convenience.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

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 by: ChrisND@privacy.net - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:07 UTC

On 19/03/2022 20:18, Richard Robinson wrote:
> RustyHinge said:
>> On 19/03/2022 15:11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:55:32 +0000
>>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
>>>> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
>>>> won't it?
>>>
>>> Nope - it may well print out acceptabubble[1] photos but it will
>>> usually be just a four colour print which limits the range and depth of
>>> colours available. Also it almost certainly won't be colour calibrated.
>>> Proper photo printers use rather more shades of ink, wax or toner to
>>> achieve better colour range and depth and get individually calibrated.
>>>
>>> [1] Unless you make the mistake of printing the same photo on a proper
>>> photo printer.
>>
>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
>> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.
>>
>> With a laserprinter you can ostrich-eyes your laser, and it dozen sulk.
>
> I've never tried burying one in sand ...
>
> But I obhtug it in 2001 and the (black) toner cartridge I got to replace
> the one it came with hasn't run out yet.
>
>
Coincidentally, the Laserjet 4P I 'inherited' from a skip at work is
still working on the part-used cartridge it came with some 15 years ago.
It still works fine and only the other day I decided I probably ought to
see if replacements were still available and got one, in original shrink
wrap carton, for less than thirty squids from fleabay!
I should probably use it more as it seems likely to outlast me at
current usage

Chris

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 18:21 UTC

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:07:55 +0000
"ChrisND@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:

> Coincidentally, the Laserjet 4P I 'inherited' from a skip at work is
> still working on the part-used cartridge it came with some 15 years ago.

The Laserjet 4 series come from towards the end of the era when HP
made printers like they used to make silly scopes. I did hear of one
wearing out once, but it might have been a rumour.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
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On 20/03/2022 18:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:07:55 +0000
> "ChrisND@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Coincidentally, the Laserjet 4P I 'inherited' from a skip at work is
>> still working on the part-used cartridge it came with some 15 years ago.
>
> The Laserjet 4 series come from towards the end of the era when HP
> made printers like they used to make silly scopes. I did hear of one
> wearing out once, but it might have been a rumour.
>
I has a HP 'Invent' flaptop wot I was going to reject out of hand 'cos
HP floptops had rather a bad reputation. Fortunately someone tole me
that that this was a Compaq (wot they took over) wot was continued
unaltered. It has proved very reliabubble and copes with everything I
ask it to do, including run 64-bit Linux.

Must be getting on a bit: I ohled it pre-loved a lot of yearsago.

Unforgets me: my bro', who was into Apricot pooters in ye dark ages and
orterer xabja betterer ohled me (with *my* zbarl) a flaptop (wot I
wooden hfr) to keep in touch while I were in that equinegob and
so-called respite care - just trying to unforget what it was, but it
wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
exchange it.

Any ideas?

Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install failed.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: soup - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:51 UTC

On 17/03/2022 19:24, soup wrote:
> Thinking of getting a 3D printer .
>
> Pretty much decided on an Ender 3 Pro.
> Although if a compulsive argument against this machine came up I am
> prepared to be persuaded otherwise.  Certainly it must be filament
> rather than resin.
>
> Can't really justify the extra cost in going for the V2, let alone the S1.
> Ender 3 pro specific :-How much of a problem is there with the Z-axis
> screw being at a slight angle?
>
> For bed leveling does the piece of paper method work or would I be
> better of getting a bed leveling doohickey?
>      I have lots of RC buggies which require gear mesh to be adjusted,
> and require a fairly mechanical mind, so I am not a complete Klutz
>
> How often do the belts need tensioned am I going to regret not getting a
> printer with an easy to use tensioning system?

Thanks all .
Have 'pulled the trigger' on an Ender 3D Pro.

Son and I both want to 'play' with this so :-

I will pay for this, son will buy the filament, vacuum bag rolls and a
vacuum sealer (these last two will be used for food; if humidity doesn't
turn out to be a problem[jury is out on a hotbox]).

Between what has been 'said' here and on the MANY YouTube videos I've
watched seems I have a lot of 'tinkering' to do.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:52 UTC

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:48:20 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
> exchange it.
>
> Any ideas?

I goove there are some people who still like puebzrobbxf but they
really combine the worst aspects of laptops and smartphones. Some can be
persuaded to run a real Linux based OS but they're still underpowered and
weird.

> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install
> failed.

Happy hunting - find someone who wants it.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Peter - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:20 UTC

soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:t180ks$jup$1@dont-email.me:

> On 17/03/2022 19:24, soup wrote:
>> Thinking of getting a 3D printer .
>>
>> Pretty much decided on an Ender 3 Pro.
>> Although if a compulsive argument against this machine came up I am
>> prepared to be persuaded otherwise.  Certainly it must be filament
>> rather than resin.
>>
>> Can't really justify the extra cost in going for the V2, let alone
>> the S1. Ender 3 pro specific :-How much of a problem is there with
>> the Z-axis screw being at a slight angle?
>>
>> For bed leveling does the piece of paper method work or would I be
>> better of getting a bed leveling doohickey?
>>      I have lots of RC buggies which require gear mesh to be
>> adjusted,
>> and require a fairly mechanical mind, so I am not a complete Klutz
>>
>> How often do the belts need tensioned am I going to regret not
>> getting a printer with an easy to use tensioning system?
>
> Thanks all .
> Have 'pulled the trigger' on an Ender 3D Pro.
>
> Son and I both want to 'play' with this so :-
>
> I will pay for this, son will buy the filament, vacuum bag rolls and a
> vacuum sealer (these last two will be used for food; if humidity
> doesn't turn out to be a problem[jury is out on a hotbox]).
>
> Between what has been 'said' here and on the MANY YouTube videos I've
> watched seems I have a lot of 'tinkering' to do.

Best of luck Let us kno how you get on.

--
Peter
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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:02 UTC

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:51:58 +0000
soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

> Between what has been 'said' here and on the MANY YouTube videos I've
> watched seems I have a lot of 'tinkering' to do.

Ho yus - and just wait to you start to get to grips with slicers
and their idiosyncrasies.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: maus - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:30 UTC

On 2022-03-19, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 12:58, soup wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 00:57, crn@nospam.com wrote:
>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>> How much are you actually going to print.
>>> Probably cheaper and easier to prepare the files and send them to
>>> a professional 3d printinh house.
>>
>> Yeah, but not as much 'fun'.
>>
>> Do do that sort of thing with colour photoprints (as my home printer
>> will do it but I cannot afford a printer of the quality required).
>
> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
> won't it?
>

Yes, at fairly massive expense.

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

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 by: RustyHinge - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:32 UTC

On 20/03/2022 20:52, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:48:20 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
>> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
>> exchange it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> I goove there are some people who still like puebzrobbxf but they
> really combine the worst aspects of laptops and smartphones. Some can be
> persuaded to run a real Linux based OS but they're still underpowered and
> weird.
>
>> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install
>> failed.
>
> Happy hunting - find someone who wants it.

But where? Who? I'm rilly grrrrrrrrrrd with my bro' for getting me
*that*: he was going to give me some redundant chamine, but its batri
had died, so he was then going to give me some other similarly unloved
heap, but *that* wooden do, it seems, so he used the dregs of a sum he
held for me (he's a naccountant, see) to waste on something he gooved
I'd hfr. I wooden hfr anything that might/would phone home to Mum with
information that could be sold to spammers, or hfrq directly to spam me
with their guff. He orterer have known that - he knew I used Linux.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: maus - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:34 UTC

On 2022-03-19, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 15:11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:55:32 +0000
>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
>>> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
>>> won't it?
>>
>> Nope - it may well print out acceptabubble[1] photos but it will
>> usually be just a four colour print which limits the range and depth of
>> colours available. Also it almost certainly won't be colour calibrated.
>> Proper photo printers use rather more shades of ink, wax or toner to
>> achieve better colour range and depth and get individually calibrated.
>>
>> [1] Unless you make the mistake of printing the same photo on a proper
>> photo printer.
>
> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.
>
> With a laserprinter you can ostrich-eyes your laser, and it dozen sulk.
>

Actuallly thinking of buying a dotmatrix again. Laser too pempramental

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

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 by: maus - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:44 UTC

On 2022-03-20, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/03/2022 18:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:07:55 +0000
>> "ChrisND@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
> exchange it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install failed.
>

I remember computers called Apricot yonks ago, even before Linux. You
had to use their own floppies.

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Mon, 21 Mar 2022 00:03 UTC

In article <t186hf$72q$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 at 21:32:30 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 20/03/2022 20:52, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:48:20 +0000
>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
>>> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
>>> exchange it.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> I goove there are some people who still like puebzrobbxf but they
>> really combine the worst aspects of laptops and smartphones. Some can be
>> persuaded to run a real Linux based OS but they're still underpowered and
>> weird.
>>
>>> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install
>>> failed.
>>
>> Happy hunting - find someone who wants it.
>
>But where? Who? I'm rilly grrrrrrrrrrd with my bro' for getting me
>*that*: he was going to give me some redundant chamine, but its batri
>had died, so he was then going to give me some other similarly unloved
>heap, but *that* wooden do, it seems, so he used the dregs of a sum he
>held for me (he's a naccountant, see) to waste on something he gooved
>I'd hfr. I wooden hfr anything that might/would phone home to Mum with
>information that could be sold to spammers, or hfrq directly to spam me
>with their guff. He orterer have known that - he knew I used Linux.
>
Rather than rejecting taplop chamine because the battery has died, it
might be looking on the Internet to find an OEM battery. While the OEM
battery may or may not have the same legs as the original battery
originally had, it should keep the taplop in being.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Mon, 21 Mar 2022 00:50 UTC

On 20 Mar 2022 21:34:04 GMT
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

> Actuallly thinking of buying a dotmatrix again. Laser too pempramental

Changing ribbons when the print gets faint and that terrible
screaming sound - I don't miss my FX80 at all.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Mon, 21 Mar 2022 03:09 UTC

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:00:09 PM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2022 21:34:04 GMT
> maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
> > Actuallly thinking of buying a dotmatrix again. Laser too pempramental
> Changing ribbons when the print gets faint and that terrible
> screaming sound - I don't miss my FX80 at all.
> --
> Steve O'Hara-Smith
> Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

I tried to buy a dominatrix but she said no , rental only.

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 by: RustyHinge - Mon, 21 Mar 2022 04:09 UTC

On 21/03/2022 00:03, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <t186hf$72q$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
> girolle.co.uk> on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 at 21:32:30 awoke Nicholas from his
> slumbers and wrote
>> On 20/03/2022 20:52, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:48:20 +0000
>>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
>>>> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
>>>> exchange it.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> I goove there are some people who still like puebzrobbxf but they
>>> really combine the worst aspects of laptops and smartphones. Some can be
>>> persuaded to run a real Linux based OS but they're still underpowered and
>>> weird.
>>>
>>>> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install
>>>> failed.
>>>
>>> Happy hunting - find someone who wants it.
>>
>> But where? Who? I'm rilly grrrrrrrrrrd with my bro' for getting me
>> *that*: he was going to give me some redundant chamine, but its batri
>> had died, so he was then going to give me some other similarly unloved
>> heap, but *that* wooden do, it seems, so he used the dregs of a sum he
>> held for me (he's a naccountant, see) to waste on something he gooved
>> I'd hfr. I wooden hfr anything that might/would phone home to Mum with
>> information that could be sold to spammers, or hfrq directly to spam me
>> with their guff. He orterer have known that - he knew I used Linux.
>>
> Rather than rejecting taplop chamine because the battery has died, it
> might be looking on the Internet to find an OEM battery. While the OEM
> battery may or may not have the same legs as the original battery
> originally had, it should keep the taplop in being.
>
Well, it wasn't up to me, and I knew nuffink about this until the
disaster happened. I don't throw *anything* away: (more than one person
has suggested I'm a hoarder, including my doctor, and the District
Nurse(s).)

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: RustyHinge - Mon, 21 Mar 2022 04:12 UTC

On 20/03/2022 21:44, maus wrote:
> On 2022-03-20, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 20/03/2022 18:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:07:55 +0000
>>> "ChrisND@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>> wooden run a proper operating flfgrz like Linux, just some search
>> injun's own thang - oh yes Tbbtyr Puebzr - and I want to fryy or
>> exchange it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Pretty please. Still in original packaging after an apt get install failed.
>>
>
> I remember computers called Apricot yonks ago, even before Linux. You
> had to use their own floppies.

Likewise Amstrad word-processers, which used 3-inch floppies.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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