On 20/03/2022 21:34, maus wrote:
> On 2022-03-19, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 15:11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:55:32 +0000
>>> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
>>>> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
>>>> won't it?
>>>
>>> Nope - it may well print out acceptabubble[1] photos but it will
>>> usually be just a four colour print which limits the range and depth of
>>> colours available. Also it almost certainly won't be colour calibrated.
>>> Proper photo printers use rather more shades of ink, wax or toner to
>>> achieve better colour range and depth and get individually calibrated.
>>>
>>> [1] Unless you make the mistake of printing the same photo on a proper
>>> photo printer.
>>
>> Ah. I can't justify the cost of using my inkjet by a colour-print every
>> year or so, followed by loadsa cleaning or replacements of reservoirs.
>>
>> With a laserprinter you can ostrich-eyes your laser, and it dozen sulk.
>>
>
> Actuallly thinking of buying a dotmatrix again. Laser too pempramental

I *think* I have a colour dot-matrix printer somewhere, but I don't
think the tapes can be got. Can't unforget the make, blind Bambi where
it is, and at present I'd have to find someone trustworthy to go
upstairs and search.

I need to find such a person soon 'cos I want my good microscope down
where I can use it: if I do I'll see if it's there and you can have it
if it's worth the cost of the carriage.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 2022-03-21, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:00:09 PM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2022 21:34:04 GMT
>> maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Actuallly thinking of buying a dotmatrix again. Laser too pempramental
>> Changing ribbons when the print gets faint and that terrible
>> screaming sound - I don't miss my FX80 at all.
>> --
>> Steve O'Hara-Smith
>> Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
>
> I tried to buy a dominatrix but she said no , rental only.

I have three daughters and a sister, don't need a dominatrix. Maybe
earplugs.

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 00:50:20 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:

> Changing ribbons when the print gets faint and that terrible
>screaming sound - I don't miss my FX80 at all.

Eh? re-darken the ribbon ink (or ribbon inking pad) with stamp pad ink, surely!

(this is the oldschool equivalent of refilling the ink tank on an inkjet with a
syringe, back before the manufacturers went to great lengths to make that not
work.)

Thomas Prufer

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:03:32 +0100
Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:

> (this is the oldschool equivalent of refilling the ink tank on an inkjet
> with a syringe, back before the manufacturers went to great lengths to
> make that not work.)

Eh ? It jbexes fine on my rBtoehr, I even have custom big ink tanks
designed for the wbo so I don't have to do it very often.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 3:30:02 AM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:03:32 +0100
> Thomas Prufer <prufer...@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>
> > (this is the oldschool equivalent of refilling the ink tank on an inkjet
> > with a syringe, back before the manufacturers went to great lengths to
> > make that not work.)
> Eh ? It jbexes fine on my rBtoehr, I even have custom big ink tanks
> designed for the wbo so I don't have to do it very often.
> --
> Steve O'Hara-Smith
> Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

there was this planet where the inhabitants always took drugs the inhabitants were called Furrys and some of them had an apparatus on their head with a hypodermic needle which would inject drugs into their brains directly so that particular subset of the habitation was called the Furrys with a syringe on top.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:06:59 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:03:32 +0100
>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>
>> (this is the oldschool equivalent of refilling the ink tank on an inkjet
>> with a syringe, back before the manufacturers went to great lengths to
>> make that not work.)
>
> Eh ? It jbexes fine on my rBtoehr, I even have custom big ink tanks
>designed for the wbo so I don't have to do it very often.

Brother and Epson are the exceptions:-)

Other need a reset device to reset the chip that totals the volume of ink
sprayed, and shuts the printhead down after x drops, and/or need an ink sump
drained, or some other rigmarole: over- or underpressure in the ink tank, a
membrane that bursts on "unauthorized" fiddling, etc. Bah humbug. Here I have an
ancient Lexmark laser with 10.000 pages to go on the cartridge here, wot prints
gray stripes on both sides of the paper, and a HP LaserJet 6p for "nice"
printouts.

Thomas Prufer

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:20:27 +0100
Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:

> Other need a reset device to reset the chip that totals the volume of ink
> sprayed, and shuts the printhead down after x drops, and/or need an ink
> sump drained, or some other rigmarole: over- or underpressure in the ink
> tank, a membrane that bursts on "unauthorized" fiddling, etc. Bah humbug.

Yeuch - that's something to avoid if/when I replace the Brother.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 19/03/2022 14:55, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 12:58, soup wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 00:57, crn@nospam.com wrote:
>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>> How much are you actually going to print.
>>> Probably cheaper and easier to prepare the files and send them to
>>> a professional 3d printinh house.
>>
>> Yeah, but not as much 'fun'.
>>
>> Do do that sort of thing with colour photoprints (as my home printer
>> will do it but I cannot afford a printer of the quality required).
>
> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take it
> that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality pics,
> won't it?
>
At risk of being accused of advertising, my son has two spare Mitsubishi
dye sublimation printers which will print up to (I think) 9x7" photos in
superb quality. The prints from these are fade and water proof. He
used to run a sports photography franchise and sold off most of his
equipment following a van theft. These two printers are fully
functional *except* for failing to guillotine the printed photos off the
roll at the end of each print. Therefore they require some 'servicing'
- either from a Mitsubishi agent or someone serious about DIY :-)
He has a num,ber of unused print rolls (each of which he assures me
would cost >100 pfunds to replace).
"No reasonable offer refused" as they say :-)
East Midlands
Chris

On 22/03/2022 14:34, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 14:55, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 12:58, soup wrote:
>>> On 19/03/2022 00:57, crn@nospam.com wrote:
>>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How much are you actually going to print.
>>>> Probably cheaper and easier to prepare the files and send them to
>>>> a professional 3d printinh house.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but not as much 'fun'.
>>>
>>> Do do that sort of thing with colour photoprints (as my home printer
>>> will do it but I cannot afford a printer of the quality required).
>>
>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take
>> it that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality
>> pics, won't it?
>>
> At risk of being accused of advertising, my son has two spare Mitsubishi
> dye sublimation printers which will print up to (I think) 9x7" photos in
> superb quality.  The prints from these are fade and water proof.  He
> used to run a sports photography franchise and sold off most of his
> equipment following a van theft.  These two printers are fully
> functional *except* for failing to guillotine the printed photos off the
> roll at the end of each print.  Therefore they require some 'servicing'
> - either from a Mitsubishi agent or someone serious about DIY :-)
> He has a num,ber of unused print rolls (each of which he assures me
> would cost >100 pfunds to replace).
> "No reasonable offer refused" as they say :-)
> East Midlands
> Chris

Interest stirred. What *type* (not type) of printer are they?

I am such a DIY thingy, and given the tools and the mobility to access
them revel in mending 'irrepairabl' items.

I expect my tools are still in my shed, and I'm working on the mobility
bit, but my hand guillotine (not for fingers, but for paper...) should
cope accurately with separating the pics.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 22/03/2022 15:54, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 14:34, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 14:55, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>
>>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take
>>> it that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality
>>> pics, won't it?
>>>
>> At risk of being accused of advertising, my son has two spare
>> Mitsubishi dye sublimation printers which will print up to (I think)
>> 9x7" photos in superb quality.  The prints from these are fade and
>> water proof.  He used to run a sports photography franchise and sold
>> off most of his equipment following a van theft.  These two printers
>> are fully functional *except* for failing to guillotine the printed
>> photos off the roll at the end of each print.  Therefore they require
>> some 'servicing' - either from a Mitsubishi agent or someone serious
>> about DIY :-)
>> He has a num,ber of unused print rolls (each of which he assures me
>> would cost >100 pfunds to replace).
>> "No reasonable offer refused" as they say :-)
>> East Midlands
>> Chris
>
> Interest stirred. What *type* (not type) of printer are they?
>
> I am such a DIY thingy, and given the tools and the mobility to access
> them revel in mending 'irrepairabl' items.
>
> I  expect my tools are still in my shed, and I'm working on the mobility
> bit, but my hand guillotine (not for fingers, but for paper...) should
> cope accurately with separating the pics.

I'll have to get back to you on the full sp shortly...
Chris

On 22/03/2022 16:33, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 22/03/2022 15:54, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 22/03/2022 14:34, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>> On 19/03/2022 14:55, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I
>>>> take it that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print
>>>> photo-quality pics, won't it?
>>>>
>>> At risk of being accused of advertising, my son has two spare
>>> Mitsubishi dye sublimation printers which will print up to (I think)
>>> 9x7" photos in superb quality.  The prints from these are fade and
>>> water proof.  He used to run a sports photography franchise and sold
>>> off most of his equipment following a van theft.  These two printers
>>> are fully functional *except* for failing to guillotine the printed
>>> photos off the roll at the end of each print.  Therefore they require
>>> some 'servicing' - either from a Mitsubishi agent or someone serious
>>> about DIY :-)
>>> He has a num,ber of unused print rolls (each of which he assures me
>>> would cost >100 pfunds to replace).
>>> "No reasonable offer refused" as they say :-)
>>> East Midlands
>>> Chris
>>
>> Interest stirred. What *type* (not type) of printer are they?
>>
>> I am such a DIY thingy, and given the tools and the mobility to access
>> them revel in mending 'irrepairabl' items.
>>
>> I  expect my tools are still in my shed, and I'm working on the
>> mobility bit, but my hand guillotine (not for fingers, but for
>> paper...) should cope accurately with separating the pics.
>
> I'll have to get back to you on the full sp shortly...
> Chris

Ta, no hurry: I won't, cos I haven't printed owt for munce.

But I have cynaf.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 22/03/2022 14:34, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 14:55, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 12:58, soup wrote:
>>> On 19/03/2022 00:57, crn@nospam.com wrote:
>>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How much are you actually going to print.
>>>> Probably cheaper and easier to prepare the files and send them to
>>>> a professional 3d printinh house.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but not as much 'fun'.
>>>
>>> Do do that sort of thing with colour photoprints (as my home printer
>>> will do it but I cannot afford a printer of the quality required).
>>
>> I only have a monochrome laser printer. Can I butt-in and ask: I take
>> it that if I lashed-out on a colour one, it will print photo-quality
>> pics, won't it?
>>
> At risk of being accused of advertising, my son has two spare Mitsubishi
> dye sublimation printers which will print up to (I think) 9x7" photos in
> superb quality.  The prints from these are fade and water proof.  He
> used to run a sports photography franchise and sold off most of his
> equipment following a van theft.  These two printers are fully
> functional *except* for failing to guillotine the printed photos off the
> roll at the end of each print.  Therefore they require some 'servicing'
> - either from a Mitsubishi agent or someone serious about DIY :-)
> He has a num,ber of unused print rolls (each of which he assures me
> would cost >100 pfunds to replace).
> "No reasonable offer refused" as they say :-)
> East Midlands
> Chris
This is the printer info:
https://www.systeminsight.co.uk/Mitsubishi_CP9550DW.htm

HTH, Chris

RustyHinge wrote:

> I ohled my monochrome HP P 21102W from rAsog for two reasons: 1) it was purnc
> and2) it was the only one on offer that I cold get toner for.

I bought my aSsmunge M2026W because it was about 55zu and no biggerer than a
shoebox, only just needed to buy it an arj toner (which was one of the small
starter versions, the refill should do triple the pages)

RustyHinge wrote:

> I haven't printed owt for munce.
>
> But I have cynaf.

You'll need lellow and magneta as well ...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:00:33 +0000
Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid> wrote:

> RustyHinge wrote:
>
> > I haven't printed owt for munce.
> >
> > But I have cynaf.
>
> You'll need lellow and magneta as well ...
>
>
You might rue having the bleddy thing.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:00:33 +0000
Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid> wrote:

> RustyHinge wrote:
>
> > I haven't printed owt for munce.
> >
> > But I have cynaf.
>
> You'll need lellow and magneta as well ...

Lellow - what an excellent name for a new messaging app - I can
just see the adverts "Yryybj vf gur arj Fynpx".

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> ryybj vf gur arj Fynpx

smileything.

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 7:44:35 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
> > ryybj vf gur arj Fynpx
>
> smileything.

I've had such terrible luck with home printers I just take all printing down to Office Depot now. It's actually no inconvenience at all since I live in one of their back rooms.