On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.

Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:21:49 +0100
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
> > half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>
> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.
>

I haven't. But I recall being given it.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 04/04/2022 13:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>
> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.
>
I had one - and a Coronation Crown.
Unfortunately both disappeared about the time as a former GF
:-(
Chris

Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>
> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.

Ah. You might be right. I realise it's a long time since I noticed it.

I wonder where it is

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:32:50 -0500, Richard Robinson
<richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

>Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>>
>> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
>> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.
>
>Ah. You might be right. I realise it's a long time since I noticed it.
>
>I wonder where it is

You wouldn't, by any chance, have left it, together with other
commemorative coins, at a bus stop in Huddersfield?

(He asks, mysteriously.)

Nick

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:44:27 +0100, Tone <email@address.com> wrote:

>On 02/04/2022 12:28, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 08:36:51 +0100
>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen very few of these, yet I'd have thought in the day, they
>>> would be cheaper to make for all those selections which were quite short,
>>> say under 40mins.
>>
>> Some of Tom Lehrer's albums came out in 10" versions with just the
>> songs and 12" versions with his introductory patter - I think all of the
>> first three, I got the impression that the 10" ones were studio and the 12"
>> were released later with live versions of the same songs.
>>
>
>The first cut of Chumbawamba's Engish Rebel Songs was on a 10 inch LP.
>
>It's fairly rare now. I still have my copy.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>
>
Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
it with Viddy.
>
>Tone

On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:56:43 -0400, Bill Day <extree@verizon.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:44:27 +0100, Tone <email@address.com> wrote:
>
>>On 02/04/2022 12:28, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 08:36:51 +0100
>>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen very few of these, yet I'd have thought in the day, they
>>>> would be cheaper to make for all those selections which were quite short,
>>>> say under 40mins.
>>>
>>> Some of Tom Lehrer's albums came out in 10" versions with just the
>>> songs and 12" versions with his introductory patter - I think all of the
>>> first three, I got the impression that the 10" ones were studio and the 12"
>>> were released later with live versions of the same songs.
>>>
>>
>>The first cut of Chumbawamba's Engish Rebel Songs was on a 10 inch LP.
>>
>>It's fairly rare now. I still have my copy.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>
>>
>Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>it with Viddy.
I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.
>>Tone

On 04/04/2022 17:58, Bill Day wrote:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>>
>>>
>> Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>> it with Viddy.
> I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.

Would you be the actual Bill Day of Mudcat fame?

Tone

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:41:19 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

>On 04/04/2022 17:58, Bill Day wrote:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>>> it with Viddy.
>> I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.
>
>Would you be the actual Bill Day of Mudcat fame?
>
>Tone
Guilty as charged... since a couple weeks after the beginning...

In article <254m4h11p8rjg5etfbs1srbgkl0md2kjki@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 16:38:48 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:32:50 -0500, Richard Robinson
><richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>>>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>>>
>>> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
>>> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.
>>
>>Ah. You might be right. I realise it's a long time since I noticed it.
>>
>>I wonder where it is
>
>You wouldn't, by any chance, have left it, together with other
>commemorative coins, at a bus stop in Huddersfield?
>
>(He asks, mysteriously.)
>
That is fortunate, if he left it in 'uddersfield, he cannot have left it
in a South London Garden.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 04/04/2022 13:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:25:34 -0500
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I thought I remembered being Jung. Someone gave me a special
>> half-crown to remember it by. I've probably still got it somewhere.
>
> Half-crown ? I have a Churchill Crown somewhere (probably), big
> heavy thing it is much heavier than a half crown.

Twice as heavy, I believe.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 04/04/2022 18:50, Bill Day wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:41:19 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/04/2022 17:58, Bill Day wrote:
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>>>> it with Viddy.
>>> I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.
>>
>> Would you be the actual Bill Day of Mudcat fame?
>>
>> Tone
> Guilty as charged... since a couple weeks after the beginning...

We have folky celebrity in ye shedd!

Mudcat.org is/was one of the most valued resources of information on
traditional song and music on t'internet.

(It appears to be down atm)

Are you a long term shedd intern, bill? I wouldn't know I'm a relative
newby. Only been here about 15 years.

Tone

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 20:45:28 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

>On 04/04/2022 18:50, Bill Day wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:41:19 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:58, Bill Day wrote:
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>>>>> it with Viddy.
>>>> I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.
>>>
>>> Would you be the actual Bill Day of Mudcat fame?
>>>
>>> Tone
>> Guilty as charged... since a couple weeks after the beginning...
>
>We have folky celebrity in ye shedd!
>
>Mudcat.org is/was one of the most valued resources of information on
>traditional song and music on t'internet.
>
>(It appears to be down atm)
>
>
>Are you a long term shedd intern, bill? I wouldn't know I'm a relative
>newby. Only been here about 15 years.
>
>Tone

Celebrity? More like infamy in Mudcat. I usually just browse here, as
90% of the stuff is UK local... but I found your music posts, and I'm
the guy who forgot about the time diff, and asked you about your
Martin Carthy interview months ago because I met him at Mystic years
ago and photographed him with friends of his who I know.
Because I have been in FSGW..(Folklore Society of Greater
Washington) for 40 years, I've met many, many folkies..including Max,
the creator of Mudcat and Dick Greenhaus, who started the database...
and a number of Brits who came over for our annual Getaway
https://www.fsgw.org/getaway. My wife... recently deceased.. was
program chair for several years.
I look in here several times a week.

(Mudcat has been up & down several times recently.. technobobbles, I
gather.)

On 04/04/2022 21:19, Bill Day wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 20:45:28 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/04/2022 18:50, Bill Day wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:41:19 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:58, Bill Day wrote:
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Rebel_Songs_1381%E2%80%931984
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very nice, interesting album... I found it on YOUTUBE and downloaded
>>>>>> it with Viddy.
>>>>> I sing 3 or 4 or those songs from various sources.
>>>>
>>>> Would you be the actual Bill Day of Mudcat fame?
>>>>
>>>> Tone
>>> Guilty as charged... since a couple weeks after the beginning...
>>
>> We have folky celebrity in ye shedd!
>>
>> Mudcat.org is/was one of the most valued resources of information on
>> traditional song and music on t'internet.
>>
>> (It appears to be down atm)
>>
>>
>> Are you a long term shedd intern, bill? I wouldn't know I'm a relative
>> newby. Only been here about 15 years.
>>
>> Tone
>
> Celebrity? More like infamy in Mudcat. I usually just browse here, as
> 90% of the stuff is UK local... but I found your music posts, and I'm
> the guy who forgot about the time diff, and asked you about your
> Martin Carthy interview months ago because I met him at Mystic years
> ago and photographed him with friends of his who I know.
> Because I have been in FSGW..(Folklore Society of Greater
> Washington) for 40 years, I've met many, many folkies..including Max,
> the creator of Mudcat and Dick Greenhaus, who started the database...
> and a number of Brits who came over for our annual Getaway
> https://www.fsgw.org/getaway. My wife... recently deceased.. was
> program chair for several years.
> I look in here several times a week.
>
> (Mudcat has been up & down several times recently.. technobobbles, I
> gather.)
>
>

That Martin Carthy chat was also the last time Norma appeared anywhere
on the media too, if briefly.

I was very taken by the loving care that Martin was showing her at the time.

The X^4 (who is still No 1 close companion. The X^5 didn't jbex out) was
once Norma's neighbour at the time The Watersons were on the rise. She
had no idea Norma was any kind of celebrity.

Speaks volumes.

Tone

On 02/04/2022 08:36, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> I have seen very few of these, yet I'd have thought in the day, they would
> be cheaper to make for all those selections which were quite short, say
> under 40mins.
> Schel Silverstien did one which I've heard. and I've heard tell of one by
> the Tornados, but apart form those, I don't know. Perhaps its as simple as
> nobody liked them , so nobody bothered about any saving in material, and
> pressed them onto 12inch LPs.

My dad had at least one, Gerard Hoffnung with his letters from hoteliers
("French widows in every room!") and the Bricklayer's Letter on one side
and his address to the Oxford Union on the other. I have a feeling that
At The Drop of a Hat was also on 10".

On 03/04/2022 14:42, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:46:35 +0100
> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> They really used to go to town designing album covers though, who can
>> forget the Stones Sticky fingers with unzippable flies on the front,
>
> I had that one, it went with the rest of my record collection to
> someone who wanted them.
>
>> or Pat Benetar in a straight jacket?
>
> My brother had an original Ogden's Nutgone Flake in the circular
> fold out cover - and *lost* it in a move. He never did take care of
> records, my first single was the Who's "The Seeker"/"Here for More" as a
> hand me down after he dropped something with a sharp corner on it and made
> a dent in the record.

I had the first two Rolling Stones LPs. Somebody nicked them years ago.
That was most displeasing. At least I only paid £1-50 for the two.

On 02/04/2022 20:57, Nick Odell wrote:
>
> I still have a couple of 10" shellac 78s but only one 10" vinyl LP.
> It's BLP 1081
> I'm quite surprised to discover that if I type BLP 1081 into the
> search box this LP comes out right at the top of the list.

"Class War in the British Labour party". Is it a concept album?

In article <jb3073F4u9bU1@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
<mike@tauzero.co.uk> on Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 14:57:53 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
>On 02/04/2022 20:57, Nick Odell wrote:
>>
>> I still have a couple of 10" shellac 78s but only one 10" vinyl LP.
>> It's BLP 1081
>> I'm quite surprised to discover that if I type BLP 1081 into the
>> search box this LP comes out right at the top of the list.
>
>"Class War in the British Labour party". Is it a concept album?

I know my German is a poor but that is a strange translation of
'Kindertotenlieder'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtSI9McPSw

You may need a box of handkerchiefs.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:57:53 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 02/04/2022 20:57, Nick Odell wrote:
>>
>> I still have a couple of 10" shellac 78s but only one 10" vinyl LP.
>> It's BLP 1081
>> I'm quite surprised to discover that if I type BLP 1081 into the
>> search box this LP comes out right at the top of the list.
>
>"Class War in the British Labour party". Is it a concept album?

Ber-loimey? Where did that spring from? My Google search gives me
results for a nice bit of Mahler for at least 2/3 of the first page
and even then it doesn't wander into books.

Nick

"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
news:9eugvXAR9GTiFAdq@salmiron.com:

> I know my German is a poor but that is a strange translation of
> 'Kindertotenlieder'

Lament for a dead child?

--
Peter
-----

On 05/04/2022 18:44, Peter wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:9eugvXAR9GTiFAdq@salmiron.com:
>
>> I know my German is a poor but that is a strange translation of
>> 'Kindertotenlieder'
>
> Lament for a dead child?
>
Literally "Child(ren)'s death songs", so near enough.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 05/04/2022 16:58, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:57:53 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/04/2022 20:57, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>
>>> I still have a couple of 10" shellac 78s but only one 10" vinyl LP.
>>> It's BLP 1081
>>> I'm quite surprised to discover that if I type BLP 1081 into the
>>> search box this LP comes out right at the top of the list.
>>
>> "Class War in the British Labour party". Is it a concept album?
>
> Ber-loimey? Where did that spring from? My Google search gives me
> results for a nice bit of Mahler for at least 2/3 of the first page
> and even then it doesn't wander into books.
>
> Nick
>

First result with DuckDuckGo here.
Business Law and Practice with Startpage.
No documents matched search with Exalead/search.
Mahler with Google.

--
Chris Elvidge
England

Talking of novelties. There was of course the coloured or picture disc
pressings to contend with. I always found them less good, audio wise.
There was a green one and a yellow one I had, and both seemed to wear
faster or be noisier than one might expect.
There have also been some odd experiments with CDs as well, CDs that are
square or credit card sized mainly with promotional short pieces of music
on. Many players simply could not cope with them in their loading mechanism.
Brian

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"Mike Fleming" <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jb1g3pFqhrjU4@mid.individual.net...
> On 02/04/2022 08:36, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> I have seen very few of these, yet I'd have thought in the day, they
>> would
>> be cheaper to make for all those selections which were quite short, say
>> under 40mins.
>> Schel Silverstien did one which I've heard. and I've heard tell of one
>> by
>> the Tornados, but apart form those, I don't know. Perhaps its as simple
>> as
>> nobody liked them , so nobody bothered about any saving in material, and
>> pressed them onto 12inch LPs.
>
> My dad had at least one, Gerard Hoffnung with his letters from hoteliers
> ("French widows in every room!") and the Bricklayer's Letter on one side
> and his address to the Oxford Union on the other. I have a feeling that At
> The Drop of a Hat was also on 10".

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:22:44 +0100
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Talking of novelties. There was of course the coloured or picture disc
> pressings to contend with. I always found them less good, audio wise.

They were poor but not as bad as the flexible ones that appeared on
magazines occasionally - they were *awful* and wore out very quickly.

> There have also been some odd experiments with CDs as well, CDs that are
> square or credit card sized mainly with promotional short pieces of music
> on. Many players simply could not cope with them in their loading
> mechanism. Brian

I've seen drivers on those odd shaped CDs or mini CDs neither of
which work well in a typical PC drive.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 06/04/2022 09:19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:22:44 +0100
> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Talking of novelties. There was of course the coloured or picture disc
>> pressings to contend with. I always found them less good, audio wise.
>
> They were poor but not as bad as the flexible ones that appeared on
> magazines occasionally - they were *awful* and wore out very quickly.
>
<Grin> I had a halfway decent tape recorder, so only ever needed to play
them once, and if I didn't like it, there was an erase head.

> I've seen drivers on those odd shaped CDs or mini CDs neither of
> which work well in a typical PC drive.
>
Most drives will accept the 8 cm format (I goove it's in the standard),
and I used to have the business card format ones printed on one side
with a sample track on the other as promotion for the recording side of
life. About a minute of CD format audio. The only drives I found that
would not accept them were the poke it in the slot type (Some of which
wouldn't work with the 8 cm size, either), all the drawer types worked
well, as they centre and grip using the spindle.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.