Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
Europe? Didn't we regain independence?

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Ottavio Caruso

On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>

Unless you know of a way to tow the British Isles out to sea, it will
always be part of Europe.

--
Colin Bignell

On 14/04/2023 10:41, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>
>
> Unless you know of a way to tow the British Isles out to sea, it will
> always be part of Europe.

+1

some people seem to confuse the EU with the continent Europe.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:38:02 +0000
Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>

The song contest, along with the rest of Eurovision, is part of the
European Broadcasting Union, which greatly pre-dated the EU and has
members and associate members around the world..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Broadcasting_Union

The EU, a political organisation, is *not* synonymous with Europe, which
is a continent.

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:38:02 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?

Sigh. Do your research/learn your history.

The ESC has been going since ** 1956 **. Long before we joined the EU.
Eurovision has NOTHING to do with the EU.

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Bob Eager wrote:

> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here?
>
> Sigh. Do your research/learn your history.

He knows full well, he only posts here to try to get a rise out of people.

On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here?

Perhaps because hosting it in Ukraine was considered "risky" in the
current circumstances?

> Didn't we leave
> Europe?

I have not looked at a recent map, but as far as I am aware we have not
moved.

We left the EU, not Europe, and given that non European countries
participate in the contest anyway, it seems like a bit of a moot point.

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In article <u1b6tq$1g4ed$1@dont-email.me>,
Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?

The European Broadcasting Union has nothing to do with the EU. It was
founded in 1950!

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On 14/04/2023 11:23, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:38:02 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Eurovision has NOTHING to do with the EU.
>
Apart from peddling the same mindless kindergarten mentality trash to an
audience it has utter contempt for.

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Look at some of the other countries taking part. Its not an EU thing, it
predated that by some years. There was Eurovision, and Intervision, which
was mostly run from Russia, the two have joined up and so you can now watch
the final almost anywhere. The question is, is it really a song contest, or
a make yourself as outrageous as possible contest, in which case although
our song is actually not bad, it will probably get less than half points.
Besides people don't like us much.
Brian

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"Ottavio Caruso" <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u1b6tq$1g4ed$1@dont-email.me...
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave Europe?
> Didn't we regain independence?
>
> --
> Ottavio Caruso

On 14/04/2023 11:23, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:38:02 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>
> Sigh. Do your research/learn your history.
>
> The ESC has been going since ** 1956 **. Long before we joined the EU.
> Eurovision has NOTHING to do with the EU.
>

It's just a piss poor troll.

On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>

Surely you haven't fallen for the remainer pre-referendum lies that all
things that happen in Europe belong to the EU.

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On 14/04/2023 12:51, Brian Gaff wrote:

> our song is actually not bad,

ROTFL

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On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>

When the Eurovision contest first started, it was a technological
achievement with every country broadcasting on different frequencies,
different modulation, different line and frame scanning rates, and,
where colour was concerned, with differing methods of encoding
the colour, as in the old jibe ...

NTSC ... Never Twice the Same Colour

SECAM ... System Essentially Contrary to the American Method

PAL ... Peace At Last.

.... but with everybody now using DVB, perhaps Eurovision is
now past its sell-by date?

On 2023-04-14, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> NTSC ... Never Twice the Same Colour
>
> SECAM ... System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
>
> PAL ... Peace At Last.

I prefer "PAL ... Picture Always Lousy" :)

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Am 14/04/2023 um 13:31 schrieb alan_m:
> Surely you haven't fallen for the remainer pre-referendum lies that all
> things that happen in Europe belong to the EU.

No because I wasn't allowed to vote.

--
Ottavio Caruso

Am 14/04/2023 um 09:41 schrieb Colin Bignell:
> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>
>
> Unless you know of a way to tow the British Isles out to sea, it will
> always be part of Europe.
>

Do you identify as European?

--
Ottavio Caruso

On 14 Apr 2023 at 10:51:10 BST, "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <u1b6tq$1g4ed$1@dont-email.me>,
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>
> The European Broadcasting Union has nothing to do with the EU. It was
> founded in 1950!

Yes, but Caruso (wish he'd stick to singing) doesn't understand that. Not
quite his fault, since the EU likes to try to pretend that everything that
happens in Europe is the result of its beneficence. It's even trying to bribe
its way into CERN.

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On 14 Apr 2023 at 16:30:47 BST, "Ottavio Caruso"
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Am 14/04/2023 um 09:41 schrieb Colin Bignell:
>> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>
>> Unless you know of a way to tow the British Isles out to sea, it will
>> always be part of Europe.
>
> Do you identify as European?

This is a meaningless question.

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On 14/04/2023 14:37, gareth evans wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>
>
> When the Eurovision contest first started, it was a technological
> achievement with every country broadcasting on different frequencies,
> different modulation, different line and frame scanning rates, and,
> where colour was concerned, with differing methods of encoding
> the colour, as in the old jibe ...
>
> NTSC ... Never Twice the Same Colour
>
> SECAM ... System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
>
> PAL ... Peace At Last.
>
> ... but with everybody now using DVB, perhaps Eurovision is
> now past its sell-by date?
>
what about NICAM ? ...

On 14/04/2023 17:28, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 14:37, gareth evans wrote:
>> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>>
>>
>> When the Eurovision contest first started, it was a technological
>> achievement with every country broadcasting on different frequencies,
>> different modulation, different line and frame scanning rates, and,
>> where colour was concerned, with differing methods of encoding
>> the colour, as in the old jibe ...
>>
>> NTSC ... Never Twice the Same Colour
>>
>> SECAM ... System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
>>
>> PAL ... Peace At Last.
>>
>> ... but with everybody now using DVB, perhaps Eurovision is
>> now past its sell-by date?
>>
> what about NICAM ? ...
Transmission format, not a production format, so irrelevant.

No EBU members used NTSC BTW, only the French and Eastern Bloc used
SECAM, everyone else PAL.

France and Belgium also used 819 lines, we used 405 or course, but
eventually in the 70s everyone was on 625

On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?

You clearly have no idea of the ESC and its background - it is related
to the European Broadcasting Union, not the EU. Many countries' public
service broadcasters are members of the EBU, allowing them access to
sporting events, news exchanges and even children's programmes; an input
to new technical specification; Collaboration; and learning.

It is not limited to the EU or even Europe - China, Canada, India,
Japan, Egypt, Jordan and Israel are members. Some American stations are
associate members.

It is a successor to the International Broadcasting Union of 1925, which
was tainted after being taken over by the Nazis during WW2. Part of its
purpose has been to standardise wavelength usage to minimise
interference and conflict.

On 14/04/2023 10:51, charles wrote:
> In article <u1b6tq$1g4ed$1@dont-email.me>,
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>
> The European Broadcasting Union has nothing to do with the EU. It was
> founded in 1950!

And a successor to the 1925 International Broadcasting Union.

On 14/04/2023 17:37, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 17:28, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>> On 14/04/2023 14:37, gareth evans wrote:
>>> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>>>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the Eurovision contest first started, it was a technological
>>> achievement with every country broadcasting on different frequencies,
>>> different modulation, different line and frame scanning rates, and,
>>> where colour was concerned, with differing methods of encoding
>>> the colour, as in the old jibe ...
>>>
>>> NTSC ... Never Twice the Same Colour
>>>
>>> SECAM ... System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
>>>
>>> PAL ... Peace At Last.
>>>
>>> ... but with everybody now using DVB, perhaps Eurovision is
>>> now past its sell-by date?
>>>
>> what about NICAM ? ...
> Transmission format, not a production format, so irrelevant.
>
> No EBU members used NTSC BTW, only the French and Eastern Bloc used
> SECAM, everyone else PAL.
>
> France and Belgium also used 819 lines, we used 405 or course, but
> eventually in the 70s everyone was on 625
oh right

On 14/04/2023 17:52, SteveW wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 10:38, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Why are we having the Eurotrash song contest here? Didn't we leave
>> Europe? Didn't we regain independence?
>
> You clearly have no idea of the ESC and its background - it is related
> to the European Broadcasting Union, not the EU. Many countries' public
> service broadcasters are members of the EBU, allowing them access to
> sporting events, news exchanges and even children's programmes; an input
> to new technical specification; Collaboration; and learning.
>
> It is not limited to the EU or even Europe - China, Canada, India,
> Japan, Egypt, Jordan and Israel are members. Some American stations are
> associate members.
>
> It is a successor to the International Broadcasting Union of 1925, which
> was tainted after being taken over by the Nazis during WW2. Part of its
> purpose has been to standardise wavelength usage to minimise
> interference and conflict.
I was amazed Hoovertphonic was no there a few years ago.....

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