On 2023-02-27 13:27, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> Some of us did use Android, but had extremely negative experiences and
>>> will never get an Android phone again.
>>
>> Many of us (including me) have had similar experiences with Android
>> devices, which is why we prefer Apple's products.
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
>
> I'm going to try to discuss that with you, as if you are an adult... OK?

That's going to be a real stretch... ...for you.

>
> The real problem, Jolly Roger, is all your so-called knowledge about
> Android is about ten years old, and Android has changed a lot since then.
>
> For example, you used to joyfully claim that the app store had more apps
> for the iPhone than Android, but now, Android apps put your store to shame.

Irrelevant and deliberately obfuscating the issue under discussion.

>
> You used to claim there was tremendous operating system update
> fragmentation, but now, almost all the Android OS is updated forever.

Irrelevant and deliberately obfuscating the issue under discussion...

....and wrong.

>
> Perhaps more importantly, you used to claim that Android had security
> holes, but lately the iPhone is the worst smartphone OS on record for that.

An assertion from the man who claims he only speaks facts!

>
>> He just lies, constantly.
>
> And yet, you've never found even a fact I've ever stated to not be correct.

I have.

>
> Nonetheless, my point is that everything you think you know about Android
> is based on your ignorance - and the fact you've never ever read the news.
>
> You have no idea, for example, that iOS dies _soonest_ of all OS's alive.

That's not a fact.

Chris wrote:

>> In fact, I ask anyone on this newsgroup to show what the iOS iMessage app
>> does that this modern Android messaging app doesn't already (long ago) do.
>
> imessages works.

Yes. But _only_ with an Apple iCloud account. It can't work from the phone
number alone, which is a _huge_ drawback in terms of a whole lotta things.

> Look at the latest reviews for PulseSMS and it's not at
> something I'd trust to work.

Hehhehheh... I tested _all_ the best messaging apps on Android, Chris.
You can find my reviews of each of them on the Android newsgroup archives.
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>

I get it that you _hate_ it does useful things that the primitive iMessage
app can't even come close to doing - but that is why you are an iKook.

> Pulse also requires a separate account to enable most of its features where
> all your SMSs are saved to a third party cloud service.

How is that any different than what iMessage does, Chris?

> This is not free.

This is the first statement you've made that shows you have a grasp.

>
>> *Pulse SMS* (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
>> free, adfree, reqgsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>
>>
>> Note very clearly that modern Android messaging app certainly does a lot of
>> things that the iOS iMessage app does NOT do; so the question is only what
>> the iOS iMessage app does that this app doesn't already (long ago) do.
>
> If you read it carefully Pulse SMS nothing special with SMSs themselves.

What PulseSMS does is it's _both_ a normal SMS client with tons of modern
app functionality that the primitive Stone-Age iOS iMessage doesn't have...
and, it is a login-based fully end-to-end encrypted messenger also, Chris.

> It's just another client.

It's SMS with tons of app functionality that the primitive iMessage lacks.

> "How is Pulse SMS different than a normal SMS app?
>
> At its core, Pulse SMS does not work any differently than the SMS app that
> came with your phone. Individual apps cannot make connections with your
> carrier, so all that Pulse SMS can really do is hand off messages to
> Android to be sent. Similar for receiving, Android will receive the
> message, then notify any SMS apps on the device."
>
> and
>
> "Pulse SMS provides no specific functionality when messaging between two
> Pulse SMS users"

What the modern Android apps do, Chris, that the primitive iMessage can't
do, is all the bells and whistles, so to speak, which make it useful.

While I say this as a joke, one thing it can do is change the colors. :)
It's amazing actually, that the primitive iMessage can't even do that.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to clarify the misconceptions that Chris has.

In article <tteuoi$1cb3a$1@news.mixmin.net>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Chris wrote:
>
> >> In fact, I ask anyone on this newsgroup to show what the iOS iMessage app
> >> does that this modern Android messaging app doesn't already (long ago) do.
> >
> > imessages works.
>
> Yes. But _only_ with an Apple iCloud account. It can't work from the phone
> number alone, which is a _huge_ drawback in terms of a whole lotta things.

wrong.

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-crop.png>

nospam wrote:

> <https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
> US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>

None of you iKooks can think beyond the bullshit that MARKETING feeds you.

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>
*Use Your AppleID for iMessage*

I'm simply describing functionality you iKooks never seem to comprehend.
1. iMessage functionality pales in comparison to a modern messenger.
2. Worse, iMessage _requires_ a mothership tracking account to work.

When I mentioned PulseSMS, it was in terms of SMS/MMS functionality that a
_modern_ messenger has, the point being iMessage is mired in the Stone Age.

What a _modern_ messenger can do is _both_ send to a phone number, and to
an account (using fully end to end encryption), where a modern messenger
doesn't _require_ that mothership tracking account for SMS/MMS messages.

The primitive iMessage does require that mothership tracking account.
It's no longer shocking that you iKooks don't even know how iMessage works.

In article <ttkg8h$12f5v$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> > <https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
> > US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>
>
> None of you iKooks can think beyond the bullshit that MARKETING feeds you.
>
>
> <https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iOS
> /ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>
> *Use Your AppleID for iMessage*

now try reading what's directly above it.

> I'm simply blind to functionality you iKooks keep telling me about.

ftfy

> 1. iMessage functionality pales in comparison to a modern messenger.

you've clearly never used it.

> 2. Worse, iMessage _requires_ a mothership tracking account to work.

it does not, as the above link clearly shows. further, there is no
'mothership tracking account'. you must be low on tin foil. time to
restock.