Lewis wrote:

> Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby for a
> couple of seconds.

The adults (if any) on the child-like Apple newsgroups will note
the iKooks can never respond without _proving_ they own the mind
of a small child.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> I can't figure out why an intelligent, educated person would hang
> out with and trade insults with a bunch of ikooks.

What you don't understand is that Dunning & Kruger studied the lemon juice
bank robber because they were fascinated by how his little mind worked.

They were intelligent, educated people who were studying specimens of
humanity that baffled them in their inexplicably immense ignorance.

BTW, you didn't answer the question of what your undergraduate degree is in.

On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>
> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>
> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
> on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>
> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>
> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
> the top-right. Tap Scan and you’ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
> of your iPhone.
>
> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>
> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
> can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
> period you set.
>
> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
> list) and check the value.'
>
><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>
> So that's built-in.

Works great.

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In article <t0vdfu$1jii$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Lewis:
> > Every time someone replies to him, he gets a tiny little chubby
> > for a couple of seconds.
>
> The adults (if any) on the child-like Apple newsgroups will note
> the iKooks can never respond without _proving_ they own the mind
> of a small child.

Oh wow, this was an ironic post.

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In article <t0tk52$1g40$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Hank Rogers:
> > Then you must be a jock strap.
>
> Question: Why am I here?
> Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars using facts.

Cool, when will you start? I'll get the popcorn.

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Sandman wrote:

> I'll get the popcorn

Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
*The fact remains iOS uses a primitive monolithic release mechanism.*

To update a _single_ line of faulty webkit code, Apple has to update the
_entire_ operating system to _billions_ of users (which they do a lot!).

Notice the adult fact that NOBODY on this planet builds an operating systyem
as primitively monolithic as iOS is.

*Nobody else uses that primitive clusterfuck monolithic release mechanism*.
Just Apple.

Nobody else.

For example, Android is layers which area updated forever.
Yes, I said forever.

Most of Android is updated over the Internet nowadays (not by carriers).

The primitive iOS operating system is monolithic so for every single line of
code they have to fix for bugs that Apple never finds, they have to update
the _entire_ primitive monolithic operating system.

No wonder iOS updates so frequently.
It's filled with bugs.

Apple's QA is so atrocious they ship the same bug multiple times.
Again and again.

Why?
Apple's R&D is the lowest in all of high tech.

Why fix bugs when Apple can just claim in propaganda that iOS is safe.

On 2022-03-17 9:44 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Sandman wrote:
>
>> I'll get the popcorn
>
> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
> *The fact remains iOS uses a primitive monolithic release mechanism.*
>
> To update a _single_ line of faulty webkit code, Apple has to update the
> _entire_ operating system to _billions_ of users (which they do a lot!).
>
> Notice the adult fact that NOBODY on this planet builds an operating
> systyem
> as primitively monolithic as iOS is.
>
> *Nobody else uses that primitive clusterfuck monolithic release mechanism*.
> Just Apple.
>
> Nobody else.
>
> For example, Android is layers which area updated forever.
> Yes, I said forever.
>
> Most of Android is updated over the Internet nowadays (not by carriers).
>
> The primitive iOS operating system is monolithic so for every single
> line of
> code they have to fix for bugs that Apple never finds, they have to update
> the _entire_ primitive monolithic operating system.
>
> No wonder iOS updates so frequently.
> It's filled with bugs.
>
> Apple's QA is so atrocious they ship the same bug multiple times.
> Again and again.
>
> Why?
> Apple's R&D is the lowest in all of high tech.

No... ...it isn't.

It is more than every other company in the world except for perhaps half
a dozen.

On 2022-03-17 6:58 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> I can't figure out why an intelligent, educated person would hang out
>> with and trade insults with a bunch of ikooks.
>
> What you don't understand is that Dunning & Kruger studied the lemon juice
> bank robber because they were fascinated by how his little mind worked.

But of course, you count yourself as immune, right?

>
> They were intelligent, educated people who were studying specimens of
> humanity that baffled them in their inexplicably immense ignorance.
>
> BTW, you didn't answer the question of what your undergraduate degree is
> in.

So, precisely like you, then?

On 2022-03-17 15:34:27 +0000, Sandman said:
> In article <t0tk52$1g40$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Hank Rogers:
>>> Then you must be a jock strap.
>>
>> Question: Why am I here?
>> Answer: To prove the iKooks are liars using facts.
>
> Cool, when will you start? I'll get the popcorn.

You'll need to have a massive mountain of salt with it.

On 2022-03-17 15:18:04 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>> So that's built-in.
>
> Works great.

How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?

In article <t0vohc$1d93$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Sandman:
> > I'll get the popcorn
>
> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.

Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?

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In message <sandman-fa4f03573ef84223701c97ac19a17533@individual.net> Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?

Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
life? Please, think of that image first.

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Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article <t0vohc$1d93$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
>>> Sandman:
>>> I'll get the popcorn
>>
>> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
>
> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?

Sweet or salty?

On 2022-03-18, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
>> In article <t0vohc$1d93$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>
>>>> Sandman:
>>>> I'll get the popcorn
>>>
>>> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
>>
>> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?
>
> Sweet or salty?

Considering Arlen's chubby is involved, I doubt you really want to
know...

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-18, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
>>> In article <t0vohc$1d93$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sandman:
>>>>> I'll get the popcorn
>>>>
>>>> Sandman is Alan Baker proving he owns the mind of a small child.
>>>
>>> Hey, my popcorn is going stale, when are you going to start?
>>
>> Sweet or salty?
>
> Considering Arlen's chubby is involved, I doubt you really want to
> know...
>
I now hate popcorn. Thanks. It took this subthread to do that.

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote
>>> Andy Burnelli wrote
>>>> Jolly Roger wrote

>>>>> The attacker would need to log in and be able to run code on the
>>>>> machine
>>>>> to be successful.
>>>> Apple's primitive iOS monolithic release mechanism is laughably
>>>> archaic.
>>>> The difference between the ridiculously poorly designed iOS from all
>>>> other
>>>> operating systems is that with _modern_ operating systems (e.g.,
>>>> Android,
>>>> Linux, & Windows) if they fix one line of code they don't have to
>>>> release an
>>>> entirely redundant monolithic release stream to billions of people.
>>
>>> One wonders why you use ios.
>> He doesn't.
>>
>>> Who forces you?
>> His family choose to use it.
>>
>>> You should rebel.
>> He did.

> So, he's estranged from his family

No.

> over telephones. That explains a lot. Thanks.

In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-16, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> > 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
> >
> > Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
> >
> > Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
> > on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
> >
> > How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
> >
> > Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
> > the top-right. Tap Scan and you???ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
> > of your iPhone.
> >
> > How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
> >
> > As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
> > can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
> > period you set.
> >
> > Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
> > list) and check the value.'
> >
> ><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
> >
> > So that's built-in.

> Works great.

Ditto even when Airport isn't needed. It would be nice if there was one
for cellular since iPhone's Field Test Mode doesn't update in real time
in newer iOS versions. :(

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In comp.sys.mac.system gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2022-03-17 15:18:04 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> >> So that's built-in.
> >
> > Works great.

> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?

I think that's only in Android.
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On 2022-03-18 21:28:32 +0000, Ant said:

>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>
>>> Works great.
>
>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>
> I think that's only in Android.

How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?

On 3/16/2022 2:26 PM, Alan wrote:

<snip>

> <https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>
>
> So that's built-in.

Yes, there is a Wi-Fi scanner hidden in the old AirPort utility but it's
very rudimentary.

If you want to a graphical representation you can do it on an iPhone but
you need an external device, the WiPry 2500x
<https://www.oscium.com/spectrum-analyzers/wipry-2500x> which is very
expensive.

What is infuriating is that apps for graphical representation of signal
strength used to be available on the Apple App store but were removed
for some unknown reason. Even the Jailbreak tweaks are no longer
available
<http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.dynamicallyloaded.wififofumpro/>,
suggesting that updates of iOS caused the Jailbreak tweak to stop
functioning.

I detail this in #107a in the document
<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------
✓ 33 iOS & iPhone Features Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had ✓
✓ 141 Android & Android Phone Features Which [many] iOS Users Wish
they Had ✓

<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>

✓ 61 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations ✓

✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------

In article <t14vip$e38$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> What is infuriating is that apps for graphical representation of signal
> strength used to be available on the Apple App store but were removed
> for some unknown reason. Even the Jailbreak tweaks are no longer
> available

the reasons are well known (apis changed) and the demand is
insufficient to bother writing new ones. this is particularly true with
modern wifi base stations that can auto-configure themselves in a mesh
configuration (or even solo).

that said, there's nothing preventing anyone from writing a super-fancy
graphical display, other than there's no return on investment, making
it not particularly attractive.

> I detail this in #107a in the document

more incorrect info, which you'll never correct.

On 2022-03-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2022-03-18 21:28:32 +0000, Ant said:
>
>>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>>
>>>> Works great.
>>
>>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>>
>> I think that's only in Android.
>
> How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?

You mean with Wi-Fi Sweetspots?:

<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wi-fi-sweetspots/id855457383?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>

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On 2022-03-19 15:00:32 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>>>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Works great.
>>>
>>>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>>>
>>> I think that's only in Android.
>>
>> How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?
>
> You mean with Wi-Fi Sweetspots?:
>
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wi-fi-sweetspots/id855457383?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>

Where's the running graph?

On 2022-03-19 3:25 p.m., gtr wrote:
> On 2022-03-19 15:00:32 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>>>>>>> So that's built-in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Works great.
>>>>
>>>>> How did you get running graphs for each nearby ap?
>>>>
>>>> I think that's only in Android.
>>>
>>> How did the first two posters get the running graphs in iOS then?
>>
>> You mean with Wi-Fi Sweetspots?:
>>
>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wi-fi-sweetspots/id855457383?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>
>>
>
> Where's the running graph?

Why does that matter?

Ant wrote:

>>> 'How to check Wi-Fi signal strength on an iPhone
>>>
>>> Install the AirPort Utility from the App Store.
>>>
>>> Open the Settings app and scroll down until you see Airport Utility. Tap
>>> on it, then tap Wi-Fi Scanner to enable this feature.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> Now run AirPort Utility and you should see a blue Wi-Fi scan option at
>>> the top-right. Tap Scan and you???ll see all the Wi-Fi networks in range
>>> of your iPhone.
>>>
>>> How to check Wi-Fi signal strength
>>>
>>> As continuous scan is the default, the values will change over time. You
>>> can adjust the Scan Duration slider so the results only update for the
>>> period you set.
>>>
>>> Look at the RSSI value of your own network (which may not be top of the
>>> list) and check the value.'
>>>
>>><https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/network-wifi/check-wi-fi-signal-strength-3803538/>
>>>
>>> So that's built-in.
>
>> Works great.
>
> Ditto even when Airport isn't needed.

Ant,

iOS is clearly & obviously crippled compared to what Android can do here:
<https://i.postimg.cc/CKFhMZtS/signal03.jpg> celltower realtime location

I'm going to be honest with you... (I apologize in advance) because I've
covered everything in this thread for years and you Apple idiots are too
stupid to realize what Steve and I both know about how iOS is crippled.

Steve and I are well educated.
You're apparently not.

Hence, you literally don't even realize what "signal strength" means.
And that's just really horribly sad because we've explained it many times.

I repeat: I know you have a low IQ because we explained this many times.
And you still don't get it. None of the child-like Apple posters here do.

Only Steve gets it (and he's an EE, as am I).

You will never comprehend any related topic if you can't comprehend what
signal strength means in terms of either wi-fi or cellular radio signals.

However...

I realize you're not an iKook but your IQ is pretty low if you say that.
Even nospam, whose IQ is no better than 80, wouldn't claim what you said.
It's only Jolly Roger and Alan Baker (who together get to 80) who did.

Please exercise your brain when you say "ditto" as they're IQ 40 morons.
Even nospam doesn't know what signal strength is and his IQ is double that.

> It would be nice if there was one
> for cellular since iPhone's Field Test Mode doesn't update in real time
> in newer iOS versions. :(

Ant,

You clearly have a low IQ (as we've covered this in detail many times).
And you lack formal education (you don't know what "signal strength" is).

What saves you from being an iKook is you don't derive all of your self
esteem from the brilliant Apple marketing (unsupported) claims & gimmicks.
<https://i.postimg.cc/4xgmTTgm/wifi01.jpg> graphical radio debuggers
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hn05bQwG/wifi02.jpg> Cellular-Z by Jersey Ho

BTW, with respect to iOS always being shockingly crippled, note the free ad
free google free apps _also_ have cellular signal strength moving graphs:
<https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg> cell signal strength graph
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