On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-05-12 11:12, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 12:54:37 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-05-08 14:45, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 7:28:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-05-07 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race. Another
> >>>>> quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
> >>>>> the best of the remaining field by several seconds per lap. McKay and
> >>>>> Floer have been faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races where
> >>>>> they competed. It's probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker
> >>>>> excuses. I'm sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF
> >>>>> lap!
> >>>> The fact remains that I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave McKay and I went head-to-head all of 2019. In total, there were 27
> >>>> sessions when we were both on track.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was faster than Dave in 20 of those sessions. I was fastest FF overall
> >>>> in 17 of those sessions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, and because of last year's tire supply issues, some of the drivers
> >>>> out there—specifically, Robert Fraser, are still using up Hoosier Club
> >>>> Ford tires already purchased.
> >>>>
> >>>> Those tires are good for about 2 seconds a lap.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting for
> >>>>> hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for months to
> >>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing until June or
> >>>>> July? Giving the all-star season winning competition a chance to get
> >>>>> all those laps in before you even show up? :-)
> >>>> I'm fascinated how you can both claim that I'm somehow a mediocre
> >>>> driver, when I've been faster than those you would term "all-star",
> >>>> Little Shit.
> >>>
> >>> Let's set this record straight.
> >>>
> >>> From 2016 to 2020 I show 43 races which were competitive from start to finish and you were entered.
> >>>
> >>> Winners:
> >>>
> >>> Floer: 17
> >>> McColl: 8
> >>> McKay: 10
> >>> Baker: 8
> >>>
> >>> McColl dropped out after 2016, else this record would likely be different. Floer dropped out after 2018. Then it was you and McKay in some races, not all.
> >>>
> >>> You can be faster, but overall you are not.
> >>>
> >> Riiiiiiight.
> >>
> >> Because the fair, logical way is to compare the last 5 years of a
> >> relatively new driver against the results of much more experienced drivers.
> >>
> >> I only started racing in 2013, Little Shit.
> >>
> >> Doug, Dave and Alan have all be racing for far longer.
> >>
> >> The simple fact is that the last time I went head-to-head for an entire
> >> season with one of those three, the results were
> >>
> >> McKay: 218 points
> >> Baker: 199 points
> >>
> >> And I had three races where I scored a total of 2 points due to:
> >>
> >> 1. Another driving crashing into me and taking me out of the rest of the
> >> weekend.
> >>
> >> 2. A health issue.
> >>
> >> Even if I'd finished all those three races in second place (and Dave and
> >> I were basically in first and second positions all season long) then I'd
> >> have won the SCCBC FF championship.
> >>
> >> <https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2019-sccbc-club-standings/>
> >>
> >> And note that my very best lap was a full 7 tenths faster than his.
> >
> > LOL! You have had what, 10 or 11 seasons now? The last 5 years? That's after McColl and Floer dropped out. Of course you would look better! But you did not mention that, did you?
> Still waiting for you to tell me what sanctioning body made your
> "RaceWithRusty" experience an actual race.

We were racing each other for a trophy. It's was intense.

On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
> >> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were the best of the remaining field by several seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
> >>>
> >>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even show up? :-)
> >> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to wait so
> >> long for surgery.
> >
> > February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>
> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close to
> even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large majority on
> fastest laps.
>
> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>
> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you know
> anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty experience with
> "RaceWithRusty".

LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level competition SCCBC is the minor league.

On 2023-06-04 06:51, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were the best of the remaining field by several seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even show up? :-)
>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to wait so
>>>> long for surgery.
>>>
>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>
>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close to
>> even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large majority on
>> fastest laps.
>>
>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>
>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you know
>> anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty experience with
>> "RaceWithRusty".
>
> Dave did not, but Doug and Alan did.

Really? When was that, Little Shit?

On 2023-06-04 06:49, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:16 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-05-12 11:12, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 12:54:37 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-05-08 14:45, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 7:28:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-05-07 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023
>>>>>>> race. Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed
>>>>>>> up. The three of them were the best of the remaining
>>>>>>> field by several seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have
>>>>>>> been faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races
>>>>>>> where they competed. It's probably going to be a fun
>>>>>>> summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure Alan will brag
>>>>>>> about having the almost record FF lap!
>>>>>> The fact remains that I'm the second fastest FF driver ever
>>>>>> around Mission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave McKay and I went head-to-head all of 2019. In total,
>>>>>> there were 27 sessions when we were both on track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was faster than Dave in 20 of those sessions. I was
>>>>>> fastest FF overall in 17 of those sessions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and because of last year's tire supply issues, some of
>>>>>> the drivers out there—specifically, Robert Fraser, are
>>>>>> still using up Hoosier Club Ford tires already purchased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those tires are good for about 2 seconds a lap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up
>>>>>>> waiting for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait
>>>>>>> in line for months to get simple surgical procedure, huh
>>>>>>> Alan? No racing until June or July? Giving the all-star
>>>>>>> season winning competition a chance to get all those laps
>>>>>>> in before you even show up? :-)
>>>>>> I'm fascinated how you can both claim that I'm somehow a
>>>>>> mediocre driver, when I've been faster than those you would
>>>>>> term "all-star", Little Shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's set this record straight.
>>>>>
>>>>> From 2016 to 2020 I show 43 races which were competitive from
>>>>> start to finish and you were entered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Winners:
>>>>>
>>>>> Floer: 17 McColl: 8 McKay: 10 Baker: 8
>>>>>
>>>>> McColl dropped out after 2016, else this record would likely
>>>>> be different. Floer dropped out after 2018. Then it was you
>>>>> and McKay in some races, not all.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can be faster, but overall you are not.
>>>>>
>>>> Riiiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>> Because the fair, logical way is to compare the last 5 years of
>>>> a relatively new driver against the results of much more
>>>> experienced drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I only started racing in 2013, Little Shit.
>>>>
>>>> Doug, Dave and Alan have all be racing for far longer.
>>>>
>>>> The simple fact is that the last time I went head-to-head for
>>>> an entire season with one of those three, the results were
>>>>
>>>> McKay: 218 points Baker: 199 points
>>>>
>>>> And I had three races where I scored a total of 2 points due
>>>> to:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Another driving crashing into me and taking me out of the
>>>> rest of the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> 2. A health issue.
>>>>
>>>> Even if I'd finished all those three races in second place (and
>>>> Dave and I were basically in first and second positions all
>>>> season long) then I'd have won the SCCBC FF championship.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2019-sccbc-club-standings/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And note that my very best lap was a full 7 tenths faster than his.
>>>
>>> LOL! You have had what, 10 or 11 seasons now? The last 5 years?
>>> That's after McColl and Floer dropped out. Of course you would
>>> look better! But you did not mention that, did you?
>> This will be my 11th season.
>>
>> And you specifically brought up Dave McKay.
>
> According to you this will not be your 11th season. You have not
> raced yet, and if your claimed hernia surgery timeline holds up you
> won't. And, if you look at some of those years you hardly entered any
> races.

True. So?

That's also true of Alan and Doug... ...so why is it only a down-mark
against me, Little Shit?

And I note that you've failed to acknowledge that it was you who chose
to compare my season against Dave McKay.

On 2023-06-04 06:52, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-05-12 11:12, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 12:54:37 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-05-08 14:45, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 7:28:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-05-07 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race. Another
>>>>>>> quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
>>>>>>> the best of the remaining field by several seconds per lap. McKay and
>>>>>>> Floer have been faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races where
>>>>>>> they competed. It's probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker
>>>>>>> excuses. I'm sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF
>>>>>>> lap!
>>>>>> The fact remains that I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave McKay and I went head-to-head all of 2019. In total, there were 27
>>>>>> sessions when we were both on track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was faster than Dave in 20 of those sessions. I was fastest FF overall
>>>>>> in 17 of those sessions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and because of last year's tire supply issues, some of the drivers
>>>>>> out there—specifically, Robert Fraser, are still using up Hoosier Club
>>>>>> Ford tires already purchased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those tires are good for about 2 seconds a lap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting for
>>>>>>> hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for months to
>>>>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing until June or
>>>>>>> July? Giving the all-star season winning competition a chance to get
>>>>>>> all those laps in before you even show up? :-)
>>>>>> I'm fascinated how you can both claim that I'm somehow a mediocre
>>>>>> driver, when I've been faster than those you would term "all-star",
>>>>>> Little Shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's set this record straight.
>>>>>
>>>>> From 2016 to 2020 I show 43 races which were competitive from start to finish and you were entered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Winners:
>>>>>
>>>>> Floer: 17
>>>>> McColl: 8
>>>>> McKay: 10
>>>>> Baker: 8
>>>>>
>>>>> McColl dropped out after 2016, else this record would likely be different. Floer dropped out after 2018. Then it was you and McKay in some races, not all.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can be faster, but overall you are not.
>>>>>
>>>> Riiiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>> Because the fair, logical way is to compare the last 5 years of a
>>>> relatively new driver against the results of much more experienced drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I only started racing in 2013, Little Shit.
>>>>
>>>> Doug, Dave and Alan have all be racing for far longer.
>>>>
>>>> The simple fact is that the last time I went head-to-head for an entire
>>>> season with one of those three, the results were
>>>>
>>>> McKay: 218 points
>>>> Baker: 199 points
>>>>
>>>> And I had three races where I scored a total of 2 points due to:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Another driving crashing into me and taking me out of the rest of the
>>>> weekend.
>>>>
>>>> 2. A health issue.
>>>>
>>>> Even if I'd finished all those three races in second place (and Dave and
>>>> I were basically in first and second positions all season long) then I'd
>>>> have won the SCCBC FF championship.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2019-sccbc-club-standings/>
>>>>
>>>> And note that my very best lap was a full 7 tenths faster than his.
>>>
>>> LOL! You have had what, 10 or 11 seasons now? The last 5 years? That's after McColl and Floer dropped out. Of course you would look better! But you did not mention that, did you?
>> Still waiting for you to tell me what sanctioning body made your
>> "RaceWithRusty" experience an actual race.
>
> We were racing each other for a trophy. It's was intense.

Bullshit.

Prove it.

On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
>>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
>>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
>>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
>>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
>>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
>>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
>>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
>>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
>>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
>>>>> show up? :-)
>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
>>>> wait so long for surgery.
>>>
>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
>>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
>>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>
>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
>> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
>> majority on fastest laps.
>>
>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>
>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
>> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
>> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>
> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
> experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
> competition SCCBC is the minor league.

The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.

And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.

And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...

....so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.

If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
clock despite your previous "experience".

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
> >>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
> >>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
> >>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
> >>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
> >>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
> >>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
> >>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
> >>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
> >>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
> >>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
> >>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
> >>>>> show up? :-)
> >>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
> >>>> wait so long for surgery.
> >>>
> >>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
> >>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
> >>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> >> LOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>
> >> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
> >> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
> >> majority on fastest laps.
> >>
> >> Did he win the championship? Yup.
> >>
> >> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
> >> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
> >> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
> >
> > LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
> > experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
> > competition SCCBC is the minor league.
> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
>
> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>
> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
>
> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>
> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
> clock despite your previous "experience".

You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.

2015 was a long time ago. Track conditions and cars change. You have proved nothing other than you can run a single fast lap.

I'm sure you would "clean my clock" if we were in similar cars. That's your Walter Mitty kicking in, isn't it?

Other than Rick Payne, who else from SCCBC has raced in the Ontario, or at the U.S. Runoffs level? If there are any, what were the results?

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> > On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> > >> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
> > >>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> > >>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
> > >>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
> > >>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
> > >>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
> > >>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
> > >>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
> > >>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
> > >>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
> > >>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
> > >>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
> > >>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
> > >>>>> show up? :-)
> > >>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
> > >>>> wait so long for surgery.
> > >>>
> > >>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
> > >>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
> > >>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> > >> LOLOLOLOLOL!
> > >>
> > >> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
> > >> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
> > >> majority on fastest laps.
> > >>
> > >> Did he win the championship? Yup.
> > >>
> > >> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
> > >> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
> > >> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
> > >
> > > LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
> > > experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
> > > competition SCCBC is the minor league.
> > The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
> >
> > And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
> >
> > And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
> >
> > ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
> >
> > If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
> > clock despite your previous "experience".
>
> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.
>
> 2015 was a long time ago.

So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for seven years and counting?

> I'm sure you would "clean my clock" if we were in similar cars.
>That's your Walter Mitty kicking in, isn't it?

Like how I'd "clean your clock" scuba diving ... assuming that I'd even notice you.

-hh

On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
>>>>>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
>>>>>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
>>>>>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
>>>>>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
>>>>>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
>>>>>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
>>>>>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
>>>>>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
>>>>>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
>>>>>>>> show up? :-)
>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
>>>>>>> wait so long for surgery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
>>>>>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
>>>>>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
>>>>> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
>>>>> majority on fastest laps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
>>>>> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
>>>>> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>>>>
>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
>>>> experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
>>>> competition SCCBC is the minor league.
>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
>>>
>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>>>
>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
>>>
>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>>>
>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
>>> clock despite your previous "experience".
>>
>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.
>>
>> 2015 was a long time ago.
>
> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for seven years and counting?

Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide specificity
to the accomplishments of another one of our drivers...

....to provide context to the fact that despite being able to run
stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a faster lap at
Mission than Rick ever ran.

After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14, 2004 at
1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...

....at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record was set
in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model, Swift's are so
good that they are still competitive with the best FFs currently built.
When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van
Diemen, but second and third were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991
and a DB-1 Swift first built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely
optimized to win at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front
tire size on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
aerodynamics).

That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim Rick wasn't
in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)

In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.

Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.

Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.

Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.

Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.

And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6, 2018...

....and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying for race 1.

And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except for Doug.

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
> >>>>>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
> >>>>>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
> >>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
> >>>>>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
> >>>>>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
> >>>>>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
> >>>>>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
> >>>>>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
> >>>>>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
> >>>>>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
> >>>>>>>> show up? :-)
> >>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
> >>>>>>> wait so long for surgery.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
> >>>>>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
> >>>>>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> >>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
> >>>>> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
> >>>>> majority on fastest laps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
> >>>>> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
> >>>>> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
> >>>> experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
> >>>> competition SCCBC is the minor league.
> >>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
> >>>
> >>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
> >>>
> >>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
> >>>
> >>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
> >>>
> >>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
> >>> clock despite your previous "experience".
> >>
> >> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.
> >>
> >> 2015 was a long time ago.
> >
> > So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for seven years and counting?
> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide specificity
> to the accomplishments of another one of our drivers...
>
> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to run
> stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a faster lap at
> Mission than Rick ever ran.
>
> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14, 2004 at
> 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
>
> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record was set
> in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model, Swift's are so
> good that they are still competitive with the best FFs currently built.
> When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van
> Diemen, but second and third were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991
> and a DB-1 Swift first built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely
> optimized to win at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front
> tire size on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
> aerodynamics).
>
> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim Rick wasn't
> in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
>
> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
>
> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
>
> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
>
> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
>
> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
>
> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6, 2018...
>
> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying for race 1.
>
> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except for Doug.

One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably rotting off the rims.

On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
>>>>>>>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
>>>>>>>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
>>>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
>>>>>>>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
>>>>>>>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
>>>>>>>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
>>>>>>>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
>>>>>>>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
>>>>>>>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
>>>>>>>>>> show up? :-)
>>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
>>>>>>>>> wait so long for surgery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
>>>>>>>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
>>>>>>>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
>>>>>>> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
>>>>>>> majority on fastest laps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
>>>>>>> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
>>>>>>> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
>>>>>> experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
>>>>>> competition SCCBC is the minor league.
>>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
>>>>>
>>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>>>>>
>>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
>>>>> clock despite your previous "experience".
>>>>
>>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.
>>>>
>>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
>>>
>>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for seven years and counting?
>> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide specificity
>> to the accomplishments of another one of our drivers...
>>
>> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to run
>> stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a faster lap at
>> Mission than Rick ever ran.
>>
>> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14, 2004 at
>> 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
>>
>> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record was set
>> in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model, Swift's are so
>> good that they are still competitive with the best FFs currently built.
>> When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van
>> Diemen, but second and third were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991
>> and a DB-1 Swift first built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely
>> optimized to win at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front
>> tire size on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
>> aerodynamics).
>>
>> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim Rick wasn't
>> in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
>>
>> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
>>
>> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
>>
>> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
>>
>> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
>>
>> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
>>
>> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6, 2018...
>>
>> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying for race 1.
>>
>> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except for Doug.
>
> One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably rotting off the rims.

So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?

LOL!

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the debut 2023 race.
> >>>>>>>>>> Another quick driver, Robert Fraser, also showed up. The
> >>>>>>>>>> three of them were the best of the remaining field by several
> >>>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been faster that Alan
> >>>>>>>>>> Baker in almost all the races where they competed. It's
> >>>>>>>>>> probably going to be a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm
> >>>>>>>>>> sure Alan will brag about having the almost record FF lap!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be laid up waiting
> >>>>>>>>>> for hernia surgery. Must terrible to have to wait in line for
> >>>>>>>>>> months to get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No racing
> >>>>>>>>>> until June or July? Giving the all-star season winning
> >>>>>>>>>> competition a chance to get all those laps in before you even
> >>>>>>>>>> show up? :-)
> >>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise one has to
> >>>>>>>>> wait so long for surgery.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan will probably
> >>>>>>>> miss the whole racing season. Very convenient. He does not have
> >>>>>>>> to face drivers who have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> >>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together, we were close
> >>>>>>> to even on points (less than 10% difference) and I had a large
> >>>>>>> majority on fastest laps.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop pretending you
> >>>>>>> know anything about racing because you took a Walter Mitty
> >>>>>>> experience with "RaceWithRusty".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a REAL Walter Mitty
> >>>>>> experience! Even compared to the U.S. and Canadian national level
> >>>>>> competition SCCBC is the minor league.
> >>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick Payne.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL racing...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars, I'd clean your
> >>>>> clock despite your previous "experience".
> >>>>
> >>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general point.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
> >>>
> >>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for seven years and counting?
> >> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide specificity
> >> to the accomplishments of another one of our drivers...
> >>
> >> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to run
> >> stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a faster lap at
> >> Mission than Rick ever ran.
> >>
> >> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14, 2004 at
> >> 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
> >>
> >> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record was set
> >> in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model, Swift's are so
> >> good that they are still competitive with the best FFs currently built..
> >> When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van
> >> Diemen, but second and third were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991
> >> and a DB-1 Swift first built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely
> >> optimized to win at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front
> >> tire size on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
> >> aerodynamics).
> >>
> >> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim Rick wasn't
> >> in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
> >>
> >> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
> >>
> >> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
> >>
> >> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
> >>
> >> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
> >>
> >> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
> >>
> >> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6, 2018...
> >>
> >> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying for race 1.
> >>
> >> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except for Doug.
> >
> > One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably rotting off the rims.
> So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?
>
> LOL!

Way to dodge the facts about your "wins" and recent lack of race activity. Yep, lying by omission.

I did not say Dave McKay was an also ran. You made that up. Do you REALLY want me to look up the details races you won and publish it here? It will show that quite a few were over the likes of Keith and Erle. How many times did you win over Doug, Alan and KJ?

Qualifying is not racing anyway. What's your fastest race lap? This month the winners were running in the 1:12 area for Sunday qualifying and 1:11 in the race. You should have a faster race lap.

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E. wrote:
> …
>
> Qualifying is not racing anyway.

Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places significance on it.

> What's your fastest race lap?

Goalpost move, right?

-hh

On 2023-06-30 05:14, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
>>>>>>>>>>>> the best of the remaining field by several
>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races
>>>>>>>>>>>> where they competed. It's probably going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan will brag about having the almost record
>>>>>>>>>>>> FF lap!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must
>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible to have to wait in line for months to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No
>>>>>>>>>>>> racing until June or July? Giving the all-star
>>>>>>>>>>>> season winning competition a chance to get all
>>>>>>>>>>>> those laps in before you even show up? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise
>>>>>>>>>>> one has to wait so long for surgery.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan
>>>>>>>>>> will probably miss the whole racing season. Very
>>>>>>>>>> convenient. He does not have to face drivers who
>>>>>>>>>> have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>>>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together,
>>>>>>>>> we were close to even on points (less than 10%
>>>>>>>>> difference) and I had a large majority on fastest
>>>>>>>>> laps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop
>>>>>>>>> pretending you know anything about racing because you
>>>>>>>>> took a Walter Mitty experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a
>>>>>>>> REAL Walter Mitty experience! Even compared to the U.S.
>>>>>>>> and Canadian national level competition SCCBC is the
>>>>>>>> minor league.
>>>>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick
>>>>>>> Payne.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL
>>>>>>> racing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars,
>>>>>>> I'd clean your clock despite your previous "experience".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for
>>>>> seven years and counting?
>>>> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide
>>>> specificity to the accomplishments of another one of our
>>>> drivers...
>>>>
>>>> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to
>>>> run stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a
>>>> faster lap at Mission than Rick ever ran.
>>>>
>>>> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14,
>>>> 2004 at 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
>>>>
>>>> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record
>>>> was set in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model,
>>>> Swift's are so good that they are still competitive with the
>>>> best FFs currently built. When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in
>>>> 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van Diemen, but second and third
>>>> were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991 and a DB-1 Swift first
>>>> built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely optimized to win
>>>> at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front tire size
>>>> on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
>>>> aerodynamics).
>>>>
>>>> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim
>>>> Rick wasn't in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
>>>>
>>>> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
>>>>
>>>> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
>>>>
>>>> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
>>>>
>>>> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
>>>>
>>>> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6,
>>>> 2018...
>>>>
>>>> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying
>>>> for race 1.
>>>>
>>>> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except
>>>> for Doug.
>>>
>>> One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against
>>> Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past
>>> weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I
>>> hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go
>>> regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I
>>> think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably
>>> rotting off the rims.
>> So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?
>>
>> LOL!
>
> Way to dodge the facts about your "wins" and recent lack of race
> activity. Yep, lying by omission.
>
> I did not say Dave McKay was an also ran. You made that up. Do you
> REALLY want me to look up the details races you won and publish it
> here? It will show that quite a few were over the likes of Keith and
> Erle. How many times did you win over Doug, Alan and KJ?
>
> Qualifying is not racing anyway. What's your fastest race lap? This
> month the winners were running in the 1:12 area for Sunday qualifying
> and 1:11 in the race. You should have a faster race lap.

Wow, Little Shit.

You talk such an amazing amount of bullshit, it's hard to know where to
begin.

For a start, qualifying laps are often faster than racing laps;
especially for the fastest guys in the field.

Why? Because in a race, if you're among the fastest, there are usually
only two situations, both of which result in you running slower than the
very best lap times you can run:

On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E. wrote:
>> …
>>
>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
>
> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places significance on it.

And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying laps are
often faster than the fastest race lap of the same event.

>
>> What's your fastest race lap?
>
> Goalpost move, right?

That's his MO.

Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the "top three"
FF drivers at Mission...

....only to discover that I've easily bested him.

;-)

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E. wrote:
> >> …
> >>
> >> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
> >
> > Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places significance on it.
> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying laps are
> often faster than the fastest race lap of the same event.
> >
> >> What's your fastest race lap?
> >
> > Goalpost move, right?
> That's his MO.
>
> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the "top three"
> FF drivers at Mission...

He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So were you. That does not make you as good as the top three now that they are coming back.

>
> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
>
> ;-)

I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.

Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct categories of SCCBC FF drivers:

Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay
Intermediate: Baker, Brandfors and Grandbois
Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power, Archer, Phillips, Kwan, Wong and others

Let's look at your record against McKay:

2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down to you and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you won 4 and Brandfors won 2.

2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered you won 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and no season championships were awarded by the club,

2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a weak field. None of the Elites raced FF.

2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser Archer, giving him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse). You won 3 August races against a weak field with no Elites. You lost to Fraser in your only October race.

2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay entered all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer races 2 and 3. Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to 1:12 area. Except for 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning lap times are lower than any of your winning times by about 2-3 seconds.

It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong after so long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best lap records.

Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning times by Elites Floer and McKay.

Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and anecdotes.

On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> …
>>>>
>>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
>>>
>>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
>>> significance on it.
>> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying laps
>> are often faster than the fastest race lap of the same event.
>>>
>>>> What's your fastest race lap?
>>>
>>> Goalpost move, right?
>> That's his MO.
>>
>> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the "top
>> three" FF drivers at Mission...
>
> He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So were you.
> That does not make you as good as the top three now that they are
> coming back.

And now the scrambling begins!

>
>>
>> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
>>
>> ;-)
>
> I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.
>
> Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
> categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
>
> Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker, Brandfors
> and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power, Archer, Phillips,
> Kwan, Wong and others

There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there, Little
Shit...

....but you go on not having a clue.

>
> Let's look at your record against McKay:
>
> 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down to you
> and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you won 4 and
> Brandfors won 2.

Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.

In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...

....but it should be noted that on one of those weekends another driver
in a different class drove right over the top of my car; utterly
preventing me from competing in 2 races.

Here's the aftermath on my helmet:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>

That's the other car's right rear tire.

And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.

>
> 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered you won
> 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and no season
> championships were awarded by the club,

<yawn>

>
> 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a weak
> field. None of the Elites raced FF.
>
> 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser Archer, giving
> him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse). You won 3 August races
> against a weak field with no Elites. You lost to Fraser in your only
> October race.

Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little Shit.

>
> 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay entered
> all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer races 2 and 3.
> Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to 1:12 area. Except for
> 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning lap times are lower than any
> of your winning times by about 2-3 seconds.

LOL!

>
> It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong after so
> long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best lap records.

Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is 1:10.583, I'm
not sure how that's a match.

>
> Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning times by
> Elites Floer and McKay.
>
> Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and anecdotes.

Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make a reply,
Little Shit.

You're not only a liar. You're a coward.

On 2023-06-30 09:16, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-30 05:14, Thomas E. wrote:
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the best of the remaining field by several seconds per lap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> McKay and Floer have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where they competed. It's probably going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan will brag about having the almost record
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF lap!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must
>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible to have to wait in line for months to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing until June or July? Giving the all-star
>>>>>>>>>>>>> season winning competition a chance to get all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those laps in before you even show up? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise
>>>>>>>>>>>> one has to wait so long for surgery.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan
>>>>>>>>>>> will probably miss the whole racing season. Very
>>>>>>>>>>> convenient. He does not have to face drivers who
>>>>>>>>>>> have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>>>>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together,
>>>>>>>>>> we were close to even on points (less than 10%
>>>>>>>>>> difference) and I had a large majority on fastest
>>>>>>>>>> laps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop
>>>>>>>>>> pretending you know anything about racing because you
>>>>>>>>>> took a Walter Mitty experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a
>>>>>>>>> REAL Walter Mitty experience! Even compared to the U.S.
>>>>>>>>> and Canadian national level competition SCCBC is the
>>>>>>>>> minor league.
>>>>>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick
>>>>>>>> Payne.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL
>>>>>>>> racing...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars,
>>>>>>>> I'd clean your clock despite your previous "experience".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for
>>>>>> seven years and counting?
>>>>> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide
>>>>> specificity to the accomplishments of another one of our
>>>>> drivers...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to
>>>>> run stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a
>>>>> faster lap at Mission than Rick ever ran.
>>>>>
>>>>> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14,
>>>>> 2004 at 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record
>>>>> was set in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model,
>>>>> Swift's are so good that they are still competitive with the
>>>>> best FFs currently built. When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in
>>>>> 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van Diemen, but second and third
>>>>> were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991 and a DB-1 Swift first
>>>>> built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely optimized to win
>>>>> at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front tire size
>>>>> on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better aerodynamics).
>>>>>
>>>>> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim
>>>>> Rick wasn't in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6,
>>>>> 2018...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying
>>>>> for race 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except
>>>>> for Doug.
>>>>
>>>> One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against
>>>> Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past
>>>> weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I
>>>> hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go
>>>> regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I
>>>> think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably
>>>> rotting off the rims.
>>> So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>
>> Way to dodge the facts about your "wins" and recent lack of race
>> activity. Yep, lying by omission.
>>
>> I did not say Dave McKay was an also ran. You made that up. Do you
>> REALLY want me to look up the details races you won and publish it
>> here? It will show that quite a few were over the likes of Keith and
>> Erle. How many times did you win over Doug, Alan and KJ?
>>
>> Qualifying is not racing anyway. What's your fastest race lap? This
>> month the winners were running in the 1:12 area for Sunday qualifying
>> and 1:11 in the race. You should have a faster race lap.
>
> Wow, Little Shit.
>
> You talk such an amazing amount of bullshit, it's hard to know where to
> begin.
>
> For a start, qualifying laps are often faster than racing laps;
> especially for the fastest guys in the field.
>
> Why? Because in a race, if you're among the fastest, there are usually
> only two situations, both of which result in you running slower than the
> very best lap times you can run:
>
> 1. You are in a close race with another competitor of about the same
> speed as yourself. The moment two cars are battling for position, they
> both end up going slower, because the lead car is compromising optimal
> lines to prevent the following car from passing, and the following car
> is thus slowed down.
>
> 2. If you have no close competition, you back off a little to save the car.
>
>
> Next, it's interesting you mention "KJ" (Olov Brandfors), and have
> clearly decided that he is NOT an "also-ran" (agreed?). It's doubly
> interesting for the very reason (2.) I listed above; at least for some
> of our races.
>
> Dating back to July of 2019, Olov and I have been in the same race 14
> times. Of those, I finished ahead of him...
>
> ...TEN TIMES. Of those, 6 were outright wins.
>
> The interesting part is the weekend of August 22 in 2020,
>
> because it was a perfect example of running slower than my best laps in
> the race, because I opened up a gap of a little more than 10 seconds
> ahead of Olov, and just maintained that gap.
>
> If you are exiting turn 2 about 10 seconds ahead of a competitor, you
> can easily glance across to where he'll be exiting turn 1 and gauge
> whether or not the gap is increasing or decreasing.
>
> In real racing, you always race as slowly as will get the job done.
>
> And all you've done is demonstrated your ignorance...
>
> ...again.

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>> …
> >>>>
> >>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
> >>> significance on it.
> >> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying laps
> >> are often faster than the fastest race lap of the same event.
> >>>
> >>>> What's your fastest race lap?
> >>>
> >>> Goalpost move, right?
> >> That's his MO.
> >>
> >> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the "top
> >> three" FF drivers at Mission...
> >
> > He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So were you.
> > That does not make you as good as the top three now that they are
> > coming back.
> And now the scrambling begins!
> >
> >>
> >> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >
> > I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.
> >
> > Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
> > categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
> >
> > Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker, Brandfors
> > and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power, Archer, Phillips,
> > Kwan, Wong and others
> There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there, Little
> Shit...
>
> ...but you go on not having a clue.
> >
> > Let's look at your record against McKay:
> >
> > 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down to you
> > and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you won 4 and
> > Brandfors won 2.
> Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.
>
> In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...
>
> ...but it should be noted that on one of those weekends another driver
> in a different class drove right over the top of my car; utterly
> preventing me from competing in 2 races.
>
> Here's the aftermath on my helmet:
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>
>
> That's the other car's right rear tire.
>
> And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.
> >
> > 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered you won
> > 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and no season
> > championships were awarded by the club,
> <yawn>
> >
> > 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a weak
> > field. None of the Elites raced FF.
> >
> > 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser Archer, giving
> > him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse). You won 3 August races
> > against a weak field with no Elites. You lost to Fraser in your only
> > October race.
> Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little Shit.
> >
> > 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay entered
> > all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer races 2 and 3.
> > Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to 1:12 area. Except for
> > 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning lap times are lower than any
> > of your winning times by about 2-3 seconds.
> LOL!
> >
> > It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong after so
> > long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best lap records.
> Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is 1:10.583, I'm
> not sure how that's a match.
> >
> > Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning times by
> > Elites Floer and McKay.
> >
> > Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and anecdotes.
> Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make a reply,
> Little Shit.
>
> You're not only a liar. You're a coward.

The other 2 2019 victories over McKay are tainted by weather conditions.

LOL you say? I say deflection.

Your tire excuse is lame, to say the least. Your 2021-2022 record sucks. A few races against weak competition. No wins over the Elites. You were not Elite before 2021, and your recent record is even worse.

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:16:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-06-30 05:14, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E.
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the best of the remaining field by several
> >>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races
> >>>>>>>>>>>> where they competed. It's probably going to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan will brag about having the almost record
> >>>>>>>>>>>> FF lap!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must
> >>>>>>>>>>>> terrible to have to wait in line for months to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No
> >>>>>>>>>>>> racing until June or July? Giving the all-star
> >>>>>>>>>>>> season winning competition a chance to get all
> >>>>>>>>>>>> those laps in before you even show up? :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise
> >>>>>>>>>>> one has to wait so long for surgery.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan
> >>>>>>>>>> will probably miss the whole racing season. Very
> >>>>>>>>>> convenient. He does not have to face drivers who
> >>>>>>>>>> have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
> >>>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together,
> >>>>>>>>> we were close to even on points (less than 10%
> >>>>>>>>> difference) and I had a large majority on fastest
> >>>>>>>>> laps.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop
> >>>>>>>>> pretending you know anything about racing because you
> >>>>>>>>> took a Walter Mitty experience with "RaceWithRusty".
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a
> >>>>>>>> REAL Walter Mitty experience! Even compared to the U.S.
> >>>>>>>> and Canadian national level competition SCCBC is the
> >>>>>>>> minor league.
> >>>>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick
> >>>>>>> Payne.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL
> >>>>>>> racing...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars,
> >>>>>>> I'd clean your clock despite your previous "experience".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general
> >>>>>> point.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for
> >>>>> seven years and counting?
> >>>> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide
> >>>> specificity to the accomplishments of another one of our
> >>>> drivers...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to
> >>>> run stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a
> >>>> faster lap at Mission than Rick ever ran.
> >>>>
> >>>> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14,
> >>>> 2004 at 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record
> >>>> was set in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model,
> >>>> Swift's are so good that they are still competitive with the
> >>>> best FFs currently built. When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in
> >>>> 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van Diemen, but second and third
> >>>> were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991 and a DB-1 Swift first
> >>>> built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely optimized to win
> >>>> at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front tire size
> >>>> on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
> >>>> aerodynamics).
> >>>>
> >>>> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim
> >>>> Rick wasn't in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
> >>>>
> >>>> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6,
> >>>> 2018...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying
> >>>> for race 1.
> >>>>
> >>>> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except
> >>>> for Doug.
> >>>
> >>> One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against
> >>> Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past
> >>> weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I
> >>> hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go
> >>> regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I
> >>> think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably
> >>> rotting off the rims.
> >> So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >
> > Way to dodge the facts about your "wins" and recent lack of race
> > activity. Yep, lying by omission.
> >
> > I did not say Dave McKay was an also ran. You made that up. Do you
> > REALLY want me to look up the details races you won and publish it
> > here? It will show that quite a few were over the likes of Keith and
> > Erle. How many times did you win over Doug, Alan and KJ?
> >
> > Qualifying is not racing anyway. What's your fastest race lap? This
> > month the winners were running in the 1:12 area for Sunday qualifying
> > and 1:11 in the race. You should have a faster race lap.
> Wow, Little Shit.
>
> You talk such an amazing amount of bullshit, it's hard to know where to
> begin.
>
> For a start, qualifying laps are often faster than racing laps;
> especially for the fastest guys in the field.
>
> Why? Because in a race, if you're among the fastest, there are usually
> only two situations, both of which result in you running slower than the
> very best lap times you can run:
>
> 1. You are in a close race with another competitor of about the same
> speed as yourself. The moment two cars are battling for position, they
> both end up going slower, because the lead car is compromising optimal
> lines to prevent the following car from passing, and the following car
> is thus slowed down.
>
> 2. If you have no close competition, you back off a little to save the car.
>
>
> Next, it's interesting you mention "KJ" (Olov Brandfors), and have
> clearly decided that he is NOT an "also-ran" (agreed?). It's doubly
> interesting for the very reason (2.) I listed above; at least for some
> of our races.
>
> Dating back to July of 2019, Olov and I have been in the same race 14
> times. Of those, I finished ahead of him...
>
> ...TEN TIMES. Of those, 6 were outright wins.
>
> The interesting part is the weekend of August 22 in 2020,
>
> because it was a perfect example of running slower than my best laps in
> the race, because I opened up a gap of a little more than 10 seconds
> ahead of Olov, and just maintained that gap.
>
> If you are exiting turn 2 about 10 seconds ahead of a competitor, you
> can easily glance across to where he'll be exiting turn 1 and gauge
> whether or not the gap is increasing or decreasing.
>
> In real racing, you always race as slowly as will get the job done.
>
> And all you've done is demonstrated your ignorance...
>
> ...again.

On 2023-07-08 08:54, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:16:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-06-30 05:14, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:40:00 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-26 07:28, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-06-07 06:26, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas E.
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-06-04 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-4, Alan
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-05-12 11:09, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-4, John
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 3:34 PM, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave McKay and Doug Floer returned for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debut 2023 race. Another quick driver, Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fraser, also showed up. The three of them were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the best of the remaining field by several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per lap. McKay and Floer have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster that Alan Baker in almost all the races
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where they competed. It's probably going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fun summer of loser-Baker excuses. I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan will brag about having the almost record
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF lap!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Baker did not show up. He claims to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laid up waiting for hernia surgery. Must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible to have to wait in line for months to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get simple surgical procedure, huh Alan? No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing until June or July? Giving the all-star
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season winning competition a chance to get all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those laps in before you even show up? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada is a very socialistic country. No surprise
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one has to wait so long for surgery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> February to now August! Wow, that means that Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>> will probably miss the whole racing season. Very
>>>>>>>>>>>> convenient. He does not have to face drivers who
>>>>>>>>>>>> have cleaned his clock on a regular basis.
>>>>>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Again, the last season that Dave and I ran together,
>>>>>>>>>>> we were close to even on points (less than 10%
>>>>>>>>>>> difference) and I had a large majority on fastest
>>>>>>>>>>> laps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did he win the championship? Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did he "clean my clock"? Please, Little Shit. Stop
>>>>>>>>>>> pretending you know anything about racing because you
>>>>>>>>>>> took a Walter Mitty experience with "RaceWithRusty".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL, compared to NASCAR, F1 and Indy Car SCCBC is a
>>>>>>>>>> REAL Walter Mitty experience! Even compared to the U.S.
>>>>>>>>>> and Canadian national level competition SCCBC is the
>>>>>>>>>> minor league.
>>>>>>>>> The 2015 SCCA Runoffs winner in FF was SCCBC member, Rick
>>>>>>>>> Payne.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And my best laps around Mission are faster than his.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And whatever you think of SCCBC racing, it is REAL
>>>>>>>>> racing...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...so far, FAR, above your little play at racing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we both stepped into one of "RaceWithRusty's" cars,
>>>>>>>>> I'd clean your clock despite your previous "experience".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You keep bringing up a single example to prove a general
>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015 was a long time ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So that's a compliment that Alan's lap time has held up for
>>>>>>> seven years and counting?
>>>>>> Well, to be fair, I only mentioned the year 2015 to provide
>>>>>> specificity to the accomplishments of another one of our
>>>>>> drivers...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...to provide context to the fact that despite being able to
>>>>>> run stickier tires than we are now allowed to run, I've run a
>>>>>> faster lap at Mission than Rick ever ran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After checking, Rick Payne set the lap record on August 14,
>>>>>> 2004 at 1:13, but the track was reconfigured in 2008...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...at which point he set a new record of 1:13.248. That record
>>>>>> was set in a Swift, and although they don't specify the model,
>>>>>> Swift's are so good that they are still competitive with the
>>>>>> best FFs currently built. When Rick won the SCCA Runoffs in
>>>>>> 2015, he was driving his 1998 Van Diemen, but second and third
>>>>>> were both Swifts: A Swift DB-6 from 1991 and a DB-1 Swift first
>>>>>> built in 1983. And Rick's 1998 was completely optimized to win
>>>>>> at Daytona (the narrowest legal tires using the front tire size
>>>>>> on the rear as well with revised bodywork for better
>>>>>> aerodynamics).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's all just in case the lying little shit tries to claim
>>>>>> Rick wasn't in a car as good as my 1998. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 2009, Dave McKay lowered the lap record to 1:12.783.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then Olov Brandfors lowered 1.12.255 on August 7, 2011.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan McColl lowered it to 1:11.880 on September 23, 2012.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then he lowered it again to 1:11.026 on August 9,2015.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then Doug lowered it to 1:10.863 on September 11, 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then lowered the current record on 1:10.583 on May 6,
>>>>>> 2018...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and then on July 14, 2018, I ran a 1:10.833 in qualifying
>>>>>> for race 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's faster than any other driver has ever gone except
>>>>>> for Doug.
>>>>>
>>>>> One lap one time, LOL. How many times did you win a race against
>>>>> Doug? Or Alan McColl? Doug, Dave and KJ dominated this past
>>>>> weekend. Most of your wins are against the also-rans. So, I
>>>>> hereby admit that you are the best of the second tier drivers. Go
>>>>> regularly win races against those top three to change my mind. I
>>>>> think your race driving days are done. The #21 tires are probably
>>>>> rotting off the rims.
>>>> So Dave McKay is an "also-ran" now?
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Way to dodge the facts about your "wins" and recent lack of race
>>> activity. Yep, lying by omission.
>>>
>>> I did not say Dave McKay was an also ran. You made that up. Do you
>>> REALLY want me to look up the details races you won and publish it
>>> here? It will show that quite a few were over the likes of Keith and
>>> Erle. How many times did you win over Doug, Alan and KJ?
>>>
>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway. What's your fastest race lap? This
>>> month the winners were running in the 1:12 area for Sunday qualifying
>>> and 1:11 in the race. You should have a faster race lap.
>> Wow, Little Shit.
>>
>> You talk such an amazing amount of bullshit, it's hard to know where to
>> begin.
>>
>> For a start, qualifying laps are often faster than racing laps;
>> especially for the fastest guys in the field.
>>
>> Why? Because in a race, if you're among the fastest, there are usually
>> only two situations, both of which result in you running slower than the
>> very best lap times you can run:
>>
>> 1. You are in a close race with another competitor of about the same
>> speed as yourself. The moment two cars are battling for position, they
>> both end up going slower, because the lead car is compromising optimal
>> lines to prevent the following car from passing, and the following car
>> is thus slowed down.
>>
>> 2. If you have no close competition, you back off a little to save the car.
>>
>>
>> Next, it's interesting you mention "KJ" (Olov Brandfors), and have
>> clearly decided that he is NOT an "also-ran" (agreed?). It's doubly
>> interesting for the very reason (2.) I listed above; at least for some
>> of our races.
>>
>> Dating back to July of 2019, Olov and I have been in the same race 14
>> times. Of those, I finished ahead of him...
>>
>> ...TEN TIMES. Of those, 6 were outright wins.
>>
>> The interesting part is the weekend of August 22 in 2020,
>>
>> because it was a perfect example of running slower than my best laps in
>> the race, because I opened up a gap of a little more than 10 seconds
>> ahead of Olov, and just maintained that gap.
>>
>> If you are exiting turn 2 about 10 seconds ahead of a competitor, you
>> can easily glance across to where he'll be exiting turn 1 and gauge
>> whether or not the gap is increasing or decreasing.
>>
>> In real racing, you always race as slowly as will get the job done.
>>
>> And all you've done is demonstrated your ignorance...
>>
>> ...again.
>
> Let's look at the most recent qualifying and race best laps:
>
> 24 June, qualifying, best lap was 1:12.616. For Floer it was 1:14.292
>
> Best race laps for Floer: 1:11.426, 1:11.470 and 1:11.725

On 2023-07-08 08:45, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> …
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
>>>>> significance on it.
>>>> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying
>>>> laps are often faster than the fastest race lap of the same
>>>> event.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your fastest race lap?
>>>>>
>>>>> Goalpost move, right?
>>>> That's his MO.
>>>>
>>>> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the
>>>> "top three" FF drivers at Mission...
>>>
>>> He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So were
>>> you. That does not make you as good as the top three now that
>>> they are coming back.
>> And now the scrambling begins!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.

Bwaahahahahahahahahah!

>>>
>>> Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
>>> categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
>>>
>>> Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker,
>>> Brandfors and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power,
>>> Archer, Phillips, Kwan, Wong and others
>> There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there,
>> Little Shit...
>>
>> ...but you go on not having a clue.
>>>
>>> Let's look at your record against McKay:
>>>
>>> 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down to
>>> you and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you won 4
>>> and Brandfors won 2.
>> Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.
>>
>> In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...

Not answered.

Weird, huh?

But you're "good with numbers", right?

Bwaahahahahahahahahah!

>>
>> ...but it should be noted that on one of those weekends another
>> driver in a different class drove right over the top of my car;
>> utterly preventing me from competing in 2 races.
>>
>> Here's the aftermath on my helmet:
>>
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's the other car's right rear tire.
>>
>> And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.
>>>
>>> 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered you
>>> won 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and no
>>> season championships were awarded by the club,
>> <yawn>
>>>
>>> 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a
>>> weak field. None of the Elites raced FF.
>>>
>>> 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser Archer,
>>> giving him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse). You won 3
>>> August races against a weak field with no Elites. You lost to
>>> Fraser in your only October race.
>> Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little Shit.
>>>
>>> 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay
>>> entered all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer races 2
>>> and 3. Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to 1:12 area.
>>> Except for 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning lap times are
>>> lower than any of your winning times by about 2-3 seconds.
>> LOL!
>>>
>>> It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong after
>>> so long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best lap
>>> records.
>> Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is 1:10.583,
>> I'm not sure how that's a match.

Not answered.

Weird, huh?

>>>
>>> Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning times
>>> by Elites Floer and McKay.
>>>
>>> Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and anecdotes.
>> Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make a
>> reply, Little Shit.
>>
>> You're not only a liar. You're a coward.
>
> The other 2 2019 victories over McKay are tainted by weather
> conditions.

How are race wins "tainted by weather conditions", Little Shit?

>
> LOL you say? I say deflection.
>
> Your tire excuse is lame, to say the least. Your 2021-2022 record
> sucks. A few races against weak competition. No wins over the Elites.
> You were not Elite before 2021, and your recent record is even
> worse.

LOL

Except for being literally run over by another car in another class,
there's a good chance that I would have won the 2019 championship,
Little Shit.

And if someone else is running tires that aren't class legal (because,
while they give more grip, they have a shorter life and are more
expensive), OF COURSE they can go faster than they would otherwise go.

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:33:41 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-07-08 08:45, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E.
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> …
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
> >>>>> significance on it.
> >>>> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why qualifying
> >>>> laps are often faster than the fastest race lap of the same
> >>>> event.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What's your fastest race lap?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Goalpost move, right?
> >>>> That's his MO.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of the
> >>>> "top three" FF drivers at Mission...
> >>>
> >>> He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So were
> >>> you. That does not make you as good as the top three now that
> >>> they are coming back.
> >> And now the scrambling begins!
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
> >>>>
> >>>> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.
> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
> >>>
> >>> Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
> >>> categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
> >>>
> >>> Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker,
> >>> Brandfors and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power,
> >>> Archer, Phillips, Kwan, Wong and others
> >> There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there,
> >> Little Shit...
> >>
> >> ...but you go on not having a clue.
> >>>
> >>> Let's look at your record against McKay:
> >>>
> >>> 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down to
> >>> you and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you won 4
> >>> and Brandfors won 2.
> >> Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.
> >>
> >> In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...
> Not answered.
>
> Weird, huh?
>
> But you're "good with numbers", right?
>
> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
> >>
> >> ...but it should be noted that on one of those weekends another
> >> driver in a different class drove right over the top of my car;
> >> utterly preventing me from competing in 2 races.
> >>
> >> Here's the aftermath on my helmet:
> >>
> >> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That's the other car's right rear tire.
> >>
> >> And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.
> >>>
> >>> 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered you
> >>> won 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and no
> >>> season championships were awarded by the club,
> >> <yawn>
> >>>
> >>> 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a
> >>> weak field. None of the Elites raced FF.
> >>>
> >>> 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser Archer,
> >>> giving him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse). You won 3
> >>> August races against a weak field with no Elites. You lost to
> >>> Fraser in your only October race.
> >> Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little Shit.
> >>>
> >>> 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay
> >>> entered all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer races 2
> >>> and 3. Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to 1:12 area.
> >>> Except for 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning lap times are
> >>> lower than any of your winning times by about 2-3 seconds.
> >> LOL!
> >>>
> >>> It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong after
> >>> so long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best lap
> >>> records.
> >> Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is 1:10.583,
> >> I'm not sure how that's a match.
> Not answered.
>
> Weird, huh?
> >>>
> >>> Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning times
> >>> by Elites Floer and McKay.
> >>>
> >>> Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and anecdotes.
> >> Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make a
> >> reply, Little Shit.
> >>
> >> You're not only a liar. You're a coward.
> >
> > The other 2 2019 victories over McKay are tainted by weather
> > conditions.
> How are race wins "tainted by weather conditions", Little Shit?
> >
> > LOL you say? I say deflection.
> >
> > Your tire excuse is lame, to say the least. Your 2021-2022 record
> > sucks. A few races against weak competition. No wins over the Elites.
> > You were not Elite before 2021, and your recent record is even
> > worse.
> LOL
>
> Except for being literally run over by another car in another class,
> there's a good chance that I would have won the 2019 championship,
> Little Shit.
>
> And if someone else is running tires that aren't class legal (because,
> while they give more grip, they have a shorter life and are more
> expensive), OF COURSE they can go faster than they would otherwise go.

LOL!

2019 was now 4 years ago. What have you done lately? Not much. You can't "do" anything when you don't even show up. We both know that post 2019 things changed, and we both know that there is more to your recent lack of racing than COVID and personal health issues.

Like for example, Doug Floer won the 22 July race with a best time of 1:10.623. That's about 2 or 3 seconds faster than your typical race winning times. Dave McKay was second with a 1:11.826, also much faster than your typical times.

As for the better tires, why are you not running them too? Personal financial issues holding you back? As you know, I think that is more than a random guess.

Finally, other than calling me names, you have no proof that you won most of your races after faster drivers left FF competition. You did not get better, then field got slower, LOL!

On 2023-07-23 10:47, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:33:41 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-07-08 08:45, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E.
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> …
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
>>>>>>> significance on it.
>>>>>> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why
>>>>>> qualifying laps are often faster than the fastest race lap
>>>>>> of the same event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's your fastest race lap?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Goalpost move, right?
>>>>>> That's his MO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of
>>>>>> the "top three" FF drivers at Mission...
>>>>>
>>>>> He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So
>>>>> were you. That does not make you as good as the top three now
>>>>> that they are coming back.
>>>> And now the scrambling begins!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.
>> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
>>>>> categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
>>>>>
>>>>> Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker,
>>>>> Brandfors and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power,
>>>>> Archer, Phillips, Kwan, Wong and others
>>>> There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there,
>>>> Little Shit...
>>>>
>>>> ...but you go on not having a clue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's look at your record against McKay:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down
>>>>> to you and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you
>>>>> won 4 and Brandfors won 2.
>>>> Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.
>>>>
>>>> In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...
>> Not answered.
>>
>> Weird, huh?
>>
>> But you're "good with numbers", right?
>>
>> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
>>>>
>>>> ...but it should be noted that on one of those weekends
>>>> another driver in a different class drove right over the top of
>>>> my car; utterly preventing me from competing in 2 races.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the aftermath on my helmet:
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
That's the other car's right rear tire.
>>>>
>>>> And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered
>>>>> you won 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and
>>>>> no season championships were awarded by the club,
>>>> <yawn>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a
>>>>> weak field. None of the Elites raced FF.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser
>>>>> Archer, giving him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse).
>>>>> You won 3 August races against a weak field with no Elites.
>>>>> You lost to Fraser in your only October race.
>>>> Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little
>>>> Shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay
>>>>> entered all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer
>>>>> races 2 and 3. Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to
>>>>> 1:12 area. Except for 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning
>>>>> lap times are lower than any of your winning times by about
>>>>> 2-3 seconds.
>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong
>>>>> after so long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best
>>>>> lap records.
>>>> Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is
>>>> 1:10.583, I'm not sure how that's a match.
>> Not answered.
>>
>> Weird, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning
>>>>> times by Elites Floer and McKay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and
>>>>> anecdotes.
>>>> Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make
>>>> a reply, Little Shit.
>>>>
>>>> You're not only a liar. You're a coward.
>>>
>>> The other 2 2019 victories over McKay are tainted by weather
>>> conditions.
>> How are race wins "tainted by weather conditions", Little Shit?
>>>
>>> LOL you say? I say deflection.
>>>
>>> Your tire excuse is lame, to say the least. Your 2021-2022
>>> record sucks. A few races against weak competition. No wins over
>>> the Elites. You were not Elite before 2021, and your recent
>>> record is even worse.
>> LOL
>>
>> Except for being literally run over by another car in another
>> class, there's a good chance that I would have won the 2019
>> championship, Little Shit.
>>
>> And if someone else is running tires that aren't class legal
>> (because, while they give more grip, they have a shorter life and
>> are more expensive), OF COURSE they can go faster than they would
>> otherwise go.
>
> LOL!
>
> 2019 was now 4 years ago. What have you done lately? Not much. You
> can't "do" anything when you don't even show up. We both know that
> post 2019 things changed, and we both know that there is more to your
> recent lack of racing than COVID and personal health issues.

"WE" know this, do we?

Tell "us" what "we" are supposed to know, Little Shit.

>
> Like for example, Doug Floer won the 22 July race with a best time of
> 1:10.623. That's about 2 or 3 seconds faster than your typical race
> winning times. Dave McKay was second with a 1:11.826, also much
> faster than your typical times.

What tires were they on?

>
> As for the better tires, why are you not running them too? Personal
> financial issues holding you back? As you know, I think that is more
> than a random guess.

Because we made an agreement NOT to, you simpleton.

>
> Finally, other than calling me names, you have no proof that you won
> most of your races after faster drivers left FF competition. You did
> not get better, then field got slower, LOL!

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-07-23 10:47, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:33:41 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-08 08:45, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-07-02 13:39, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:18:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2023-06-30 08:00, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:14:36 PM UTC+1, Thomas E.
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> …
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Qualifying is not racing anyway.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yet it is part of racing, who organizationally places
> >>>>>>> significance on it.
> >>>>>> And as I explained, there are very good reasons why
> >>>>>> qualifying laps are often faster than the fastest race lap
> >>>>>> of the same event.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What's your fastest race lap?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Goalpost move, right?
> >>>>>> That's his MO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now watch him scramble because he's declared "KJ" one of
> >>>>>> the "top three" FF drivers at Mission...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He was top 3 after Floer, McColl and McKay dropped out. So
> >>>>> were you. That does not make you as good as the top three now
> >>>>> that they are coming back.
> >>>> And now the scrambling begins!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...only to discover that I've easily bested him.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not a race driver, just good with numbers.
> >> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Based on race wins out of race entries there three distinct
> >>>>> categories of SCCBC FF drivers:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elite: Floer, McColl (tie) and McKay Intermediate: Baker,
> >>>>> Brandfors and Grandbois Also Ran: Robinson, Fraser, Power,
> >>>>> Archer, Phillips, Kwan, Wong and others
> >>>> There's a lot more than number of race wins to consider there,
> >>>> Little Shit...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...but you go on not having a clue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's look at your record against McKay:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2019: Floer and McColl stopped their FF racing. It was down
> >>>>> to you and McKay. Of 16 races you entered, McKay won 10, you
> >>>>> won 4 and Brandfors won 2.
> >>>> Wow. You can't even look up the basic facts correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> In 2019, I won 6 races to Dave McKay's 10...
> >> Not answered.
> >>
> >> Weird, huh?
> >>
> >> But you're "good with numbers", right?
> >>
> >> Bwaahahahahahahahahah!
> >>>>
> >>>> ...but it should be noted that on one of those weekends
> >>>> another driver in a different class drove right over the top of
> >>>> my car; utterly preventing me from competing in 2 races.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's the aftermath on my helmet:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Z98fKnZ8ZJA0Lq2meVhwu44aB-E0y1Y/view?usp=share_link>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> That's the other car's right rear tire.
> >>>>
> >>>> And to be clear, the other driver was completely at fault.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2020: None of the Elites raced FF. Of the 9 races you entered
> >>>>> you won 7, Grandbois 2. The season was shorted by COVID and
> >>>>> no season championships were awarded by the club,
> >>>> <yawn>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2021: You entered and won 3 races, all in October, against a
> >>>>> weak field. None of the Elites raced FF.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2022: You lost your first 3 races to consistent loser
> >>>>> Archer, giving him (i think) his first wins (tire excuse).
> >>>>> You won 3 August races against a weak field with no Elites.
> >>>>> You lost to Fraser in your only October race.
> >>>> Different tires with more grip is not an "excuse", Little
> >>>> Shit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2023: You have not entered any races. Elites Floer and McKay
> >>>>> entered all three June 24 races. McKay won race 1, Floer
> >>>>> races 2 and 3. Winning best lap times were in the 1:11 to
> >>>>> 1:12 area. Except for 7/27/2019 race #1 these latest winning
> >>>>> lap times are lower than any of your winning times by about
> >>>>> 2-3 seconds.
> >>>> LOL!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It’s remarkable that Floer and McKay came back so strong
> >>>>> after so long away. Their times match their 2016-2018 best
> >>>>> lap records.
> >>>> Given that the "best lap record" of that time period is
> >>>> 1:10.583, I'm not sure how that's a match.
> >> Not answered.
> >>
> >> Weird, huh?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your racing record is not competitive with June’s winning
> >>>>> times by Elites Floer and McKay.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Prove me wrong with numbers, not excuses, lies and
> >>>>> anecdotes.
> >>>> Look at the post of mine to which you were too craven to make
> >>>> a reply, Little Shit.
> >>>>
> >>>> You're not only a liar. You're a coward.
> >>>
> >>> The other 2 2019 victories over McKay are tainted by weather
> >>> conditions.
> >> How are race wins "tainted by weather conditions", Little Shit?
> >>>
> >>> LOL you say? I say deflection.
> >>>
> >>> Your tire excuse is lame, to say the least. Your 2021-2022
> >>> record sucks. A few races against weak competition. No wins over
> >>> the Elites. You were not Elite before 2021, and your recent
> >>> record is even worse.
> >> LOL
> >>
> >> Except for being literally run over by another car in another
> >> class, there's a good chance that I would have won the 2019
> >> championship, Little Shit.
> >>
> >> And if someone else is running tires that aren't class legal
> >> (because, while they give more grip, they have a shorter life and
> >> are more expensive), OF COURSE they can go faster than they would
> >> otherwise go.
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > 2019 was now 4 years ago. What have you done lately? Not much. You
> > can't "do" anything when you don't even show up. We both know that
> > post 2019 things changed, and we both know that there is more to your
> > recent lack of racing than COVID and personal health issues.
>
> "WE" know this, do we?

Funny how back in March, Tommy was admitting to CoVid as a factor for his
own reductions in travel, not financials.

Of course, he also said:
“We are now 5 years older but still wanting to travel. I just bought a flying club
membership, opening the opportunity to take some trips by air not involving airlines.”

…which hasn’t had a peep about since.

-hh