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* coffee timerknuttle
+* Re: coffee timerCarlos E.R.
|`* Re: coffee timerAllodoxaphobia
| `- Re: coffee timerPiet
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|  `* Re: coffee timerCarlos E.R.
|   `- Re: coffee timerknuttle
+* Re: coffee timerJohn McGaw
|`* Re: coffee timerKen Blake
| `* Re: coffee timerknuttle
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|  |   |`- Re: coffee timerCarlos E.R.
|  |   `- Re: coffee timerFrank Slootweg
|  `* Re: coffee timerJohn McGaw
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|   |+* Re: coffee timerThe Real Bev
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|   |    |`- Re: coffee timerCarlos E.R.
|   |    `* Re: coffee timerCarlos E.R.
|   |     `- Re: coffee timerJohn McGaw
|   `- Re: coffee timerKen Blake
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+* Re: coffee timerBlack Iccy
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 by: knuttle - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 01:08 UTC

A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?

Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:47 UTC

On 04/06/2021 03.08, knuttle wrote:
> A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
> What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?
>
> Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
> Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?

What you need is a two period timer.
A timer that beeps at intermediate times without stopping the count.

No, I don't know of one.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Allodoxaphobia - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 12:56 UTC

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:47:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 04/06/2021 03.08, knuttle wrote:
>> A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
>> What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?
>>
>> Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
>> Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?
>
> What you need is a two period timer.
> A timer that beeps at intermediate times without stopping the count.

Technology has simplified so much of our lives.

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 by: The Real Bev - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:36 UTC

On 06/03/2021 06:08 PM, knuttle wrote:
> A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
> What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?

Why the two steps? What happens at the half minute?

> Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
> Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?

--
Cheers, Bev
Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.

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On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 21:08:44 -0400, knuttle
<keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
>What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?
>
>Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
>Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?
There's an app on the PlayStore called "Tabata Timer: Interval Timer"
that should probably do what you want, but when I looked at it seemed
pretty complex to program (but I was looking for an 8 period time).

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 by: Piet - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:37 UTC

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> Technology has simplified so much of our lives.

And complicated much, much more.

-p

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 by: John McGaw - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:54 UTC

On 6/3/2021 9:08 PM, knuttle wrote:
> A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
> What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?
>
> Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
> Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?

I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
that. My routine is grind a carefully weighed amount of beans, drop into
press, pour in the correct amount of 200F (93C) water over the beans, start
a 5-minute timer on my microwave, stir, put the plunger in and push it down
to contact the surface, pour hot water into the heavy mug to preheat it and
wait until the timer is about to finishes and dump the water from the mug,
then plunge and pour. Amount of coffee, grind consistency, temperature of
water, and time are all inter-dependent and need to be determined by
experiment. I use 16g of beans and grind fairly coarse in a burr grinder
and add roughly 16oz of water which is enough to fill my 14oz mug with
minimal waste. What process are you using that needs two times?

--
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can never overcome natural stupidity.

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 by: Ken Blake - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:59 UTC

On 6/4/2021 8:54 AM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 6/3/2021 9:08 PM, knuttle wrote:
>> A French Press coffee timer needs 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 minutes.
>> What timer do you know of that can do that as easily as one tap?
>>
>> Notice it's not 4 minutes but 1/2 minute and then 3-1/2 more minutes.
>> Any coffee timers you know of out there on Google Play that do that?
>
> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
> that.

I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."

--
Ken

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 by: knuttle - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:44 UTC

On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
>> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
>> that.
>
> I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
> period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
> for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."

Thank you for understanding the need for a multi period timer for cooking.
https://bluebottlecoffee.com/brew-guides/french-press

Almost every French Press coffee-making instruction contains the 30-second
mark & the magic 4 minutes (although we're all welcome to tweak as needed).
https://www.drinktrade.com/how-tos/best-french-press-coffee

It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994

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 by: nospam - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:54 UTC

In article <s9dl8r$ptc$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle
<keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994

any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.

set two alerts:
- one 30 seconds from now
- one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)

start both at the same time.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 18:37 UTC

On 04/06/2021 18.54, nospam wrote:
> In article <s9dl8r$ptc$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle
> <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>
> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>
> set two alerts:
> - one 30 seconds from now
> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>
> start both at the same time.

Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
There are a few seconds of difference.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 18:45 UTC

On 2021-06-04 11:37 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 04/06/2021 18.54, nospam wrote:
>> In article <s9dl8r$ptc$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle
>> <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French
>>> Press.
>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>
>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>
>> set two alerts:
>> - one 30 seconds from now
>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>
>> start both at the same time.
>
> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
> There are a few seconds of difference.
>

As if that makes any practical difference...

....in making coffee.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 19:10 UTC

In article <ig8qoh-09a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> >> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
> >> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
> >> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
> >
> > any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
> >
> > set two alerts:
> > - one 30 seconds from now
> > - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
> >
> > start both at the same time.
>
> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
> There are a few seconds of difference.

if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
slight delay in activating the second timer.

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 by: knuttle - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 19:43 UTC

On 6/4/2021 8:10 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>
>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>
>>> set two alerts:
>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>
>>> start both at the same time.
>>
>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
>> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
>> There are a few seconds of difference.
>
> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
> slight delay in activating the second timer.

It's not the precision that matters.
It's the convenience that matters.

It should be set up once and when needed I tap just once to use it.

I don't want to touch or look at the phone after I tap the app just once.
It should beep at 30 seconds. Then beep again at 4 minutes. Then go away.

It shouldn't ever need more than one tap (except upon initial setup).

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 by: John McGaw - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 20:08 UTC

On 6/4/2021 12:44 PM, knuttle wrote:
> On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
>>> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
>>> that.
>>
>> I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
>> period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
>> for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."
>
> Thank you for understanding the need for a multi period timer for cooking.
> https://bluebottlecoffee.com/brew-guides/french-press
>
> Almost every French Press coffee-making instruction contains the 30-second
> mark & the magic 4 minutes (although we're all welcome to tweak as needed).
> https://www.drinktrade.com/how-tos/best-french-press-coffee
>
> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994

OK. How about this? Set any countdown timer you prefer to 4:30 and start,
pour water and wait until the timer says 4:00, stir, and wait until the
timer runs out then plunge. I can't see where waiting patiently for 30
seconds in the beginning would be too much of a show-stopper. You are
hardly likely to wander too far during that short period where you will
need to be summoned by a beep or whatever.

--
Bodger's Dictum: Artifical intelligence
can never overcome natural stupidity.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 20:39 UTC

On 2021-06-04 12:43 p.m., knuttle wrote:
> On 6/4/2021 8:10 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that
>>>>> I was
>>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a
>>>>> French Press.
>>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>>
>>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>>
>>>> set two alerts:
>>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>>
>>>> start both at the same time.
>>>
>>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
>>> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
>>> There are a few seconds of difference.
>>
>> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
>> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
>> slight delay in activating the second timer.
>
> It's not the precision that matters.
> It's the convenience that matters.
>
> It should be set up once and when needed I tap just once to use it.
>
> I don't want to touch or look at the phone after I tap the app just once.
> It should beep at 30 seconds. Then beep again at 4 minutes. Then go away.
>
> It shouldn't ever need more than one tap (except upon initial setup).

Oh, please.

Two preset timers, and it's too "inconvenient" to hit "Start" twice?

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:26 UTC

On 04/06/2021 21.10, nospam wrote:
> In article <ig8qoh-09a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>
>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>
>>> set two alerts:
>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>
>>> start both at the same time.
>>
>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
>> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
>> There are a few seconds of difference.
>
> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
> slight delay in activating the second timer.

It matters in comfort and usability.
It is easy to forget to start the second timer.

I could program it on a computer or in a programmable calculator,
perhaps. On Android, I don't even know where to start.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:27 UTC

On 04/06/2021 22.39, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-04 12:43 p.m., knuttle wrote:
>> On 6/4/2021 8:10 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that
>>>>>> I was
>>>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a
>>>>>> French Press.
>>>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>>>
>>>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>>>
>>>>> set two alerts:
>>>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>>>
>>>>> start both at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>>>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not
>>>> start two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another,
>>>> start it. There are a few seconds of difference.
>>>
>>> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
>>> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
>>> slight delay in activating the second timer.
>>
>> It's not the precision that matters.
>> It's the convenience that matters.
>>
>> It should be set up once and when needed I tap just once to use it.
>>
>> I don't want to touch or look at the phone after I tap the app just once.
>> It should beep at 30 seconds. Then beep again at 4 minutes. Then go away.
>>
>> It shouldn't ever need more than one tap (except upon initial setup).
>
> Oh, please.
>
> Two preset timers, and it's too "inconvenient" to hit "Start" twice?

You also have to tap "stop" when it starts beeping, which is highly
inconvenient when cooking: wet and muddy fingers handling hot pans and
utensils.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: John McGaw - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:36 UTC

On 6/4/2021 4:08 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 6/4/2021 12:44 PM, knuttle wrote:
>> On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
>>>> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
>>> period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
>>> for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."
>>
>> Thank you for understanding the need for a multi period timer for cooking.
>> https://bluebottlecoffee.com/brew-guides/french-press
>>
>> Almost every French Press coffee-making instruction contains the
>> 30-second mark & the magic 4 minutes (although we're all welcome to tweak
>> as needed).
>> https://www.drinktrade.com/how-tos/best-french-press-coffee
>>
>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>
> OK. How about this? Set any countdown timer you prefer to 4:30 and start,
> pour water and wait until the timer says 4:00, stir, and wait until the
> timer runs out then plunge. I can't see where waiting patiently for 30
> seconds in the beginning would be too much of a show-stopper. You are
> hardly likely to wander too far during that short period where you will
> need to be summoned by a beep or whatever.
>
I should have added that the timer function in the standard Android clock
remembers times -- every time it is restarted it knows what it was last
time. I set mine for 90 minutes for morning exercise time and have never
had to change it. Of course you need to tap the 'reset' to set it back to
the memorized time but that seems like a low hurdle. Still, no beep at your
30-second time but it will sound whatever sound you like at the end.

--
Bodger's Dictum: Artifical intelligence
can never overcome natural stupidity.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:08 UTC

In article <mciqoh-o7f.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> >>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
> >>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French
> >>>> Press.
> >>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
> >>>
> >>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
> >>>
> >>> set two alerts:
> >>> - one 30 seconds from now
> >>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
> >>>
> >>> start both at the same time.
> >>
> >> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
> >> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
> >> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
> >> There are a few seconds of difference.
> >
> > if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
> > timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
> > slight delay in activating the second timer.
>
> It matters in comfort and usability.

it's certainly preferable to have one tap do both, but until he finds
such an app, the above solves the problem.

> It is easy to forget to start the second timer.

not when one is 'a few seconds' later.

> I could program it on a computer or in a programmable calculator,
> perhaps. On Android, I don't even know where to start.

one way is by learning kotlin and writing a new timer app that does
exactly what's needed.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:24 UTC

On 2021-06-04 2:26 p.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 04/06/2021 21.10, nospam wrote:
>> In article <ig8qoh-09a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that
>>>>> I was
>>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a
>>>>> French Press.
>>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>>
>>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>>
>>>> set two alerts:
>>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>>
>>>> start both at the same time.
>>>
>>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
>>> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
>>> There are a few seconds of difference.
>>
>> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
>> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
>> slight delay in activating the second timer.
>
> It matters in comfort and usability.
> It is easy to forget to start the second timer.
>
> I could program it on a computer or in a programmable calculator,
> perhaps. On Android, I don't even know where to start.
>
>

Or you could just use the mind that you've got and remember to start two
timers.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:25 UTC

On 2021-06-04 2:27 p.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 04/06/2021 22.39, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-04 12:43 p.m., knuttle wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2021 8:10 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer
>>>>>>> that I was
>>>>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a
>>>>>>> French Press.
>>>>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set two alerts:
>>>>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>>>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> start both at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>>>>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not
>>>>> start two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another,
>>>>> start it. There are a few seconds of difference.
>>>>
>>>> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
>>>> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
>>>> slight delay in activating the second timer.
>>>
>>> It's not the precision that matters.
>>> It's the convenience that matters.
>>>
>>> It should be set up once and when needed I tap just once to use it.
>>>
>>> I don't want to touch or look at the phone after I tap the app just
>>> once.
>>> It should beep at 30 seconds. Then beep again at 4 minutes. Then go
>>> away.
>>>
>>> It shouldn't ever need more than one tap (except upon initial setup).
>>
>> Oh, please.
>>
>> Two preset timers, and it's too "inconvenient" to hit "Start" twice?
>
> You also have to tap "stop" when it starts beeping, which is highly
> inconvenient when cooking: wet and muddy fingers handling hot pans and
> utensils.
>

Dude. There are these amazing devices that respond to voice commands...

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On 2021-06-04 3:08 p.m., nospam wrote:
> In article <mciqoh-o7f.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French
>>>>>> Press.
>>>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>>>
>>>>> any timer app that supports multiple alerts should work.
>>>>>
>>>>> set two alerts:
>>>>> - one 30 seconds from now
>>>>> - one 4 minutes from now (3.5 minutes after the first triggers)
>>>>>
>>>>> start both at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Not "any timer app that supports multiple alerts". For example, the
>>>> default Android timer does support multiple alerts, but can not start
>>>> two at the same time. Select one, start it, select another, start it.
>>>> There are a few seconds of difference.
>>>
>>> if that level of precision matters (which i doubt), then set the second
>>> timer 'a few seconds' shorter than 4 minutes to compensate for the
>>> slight delay in activating the second timer.
>>
>> It matters in comfort and usability.
>
> it's certainly preferable to have one tap do both, but until he finds
> such an app, the above solves the problem.
>
>> It is easy to forget to start the second timer.
>
> not when one is 'a few seconds' later.
>
>> I could program it on a computer or in a programmable calculator,
>> perhaps. On Android, I don't even know where to start.
>
> one way is by learning kotlin and writing a new timer app that does
> exactly what's needed.
>

Given that the first timer is for 30 seconds (i.e. not long enough to
really do anything else):

Start ONE timer for the total time, and just wait and watch it for 30
seconds.

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 by: The Real Bev - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:42 UTC

On 06/04/2021 02:36 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 6/4/2021 4:08 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>> On 6/4/2021 12:44 PM, knuttle wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
>>>>> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
>>>> period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
>>>> for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."
>>>
>>> Thank you for understanding the need for a multi period timer for cooking.
>>> https://bluebottlecoffee.com/brew-guides/french-press
>>>
>>> Almost every French Press coffee-making instruction contains the
>>> 30-second mark & the magic 4 minutes (although we're all welcome to tweak
>>> as needed).
>>> https://www.drinktrade.com/how-tos/best-french-press-coffee
>>>
>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>
>> OK. How about this? Set any countdown timer you prefer to 4:30 and start,
>> pour water and wait until the timer says 4:00, stir, and wait until the
>> timer runs out then plunge. I can't see where waiting patiently for 30
>> seconds in the beginning would be too much of a show-stopper. You are
>> hardly likely to wander too far during that short period where you will
>> need to be summoned by a beep or whatever.
>>
> I should have added that the timer function in the standard Android clock
> remembers times -- every time it is restarted it knows what it was last
> time. I set mine for 90 minutes for morning exercise time and have never
> had to change it. Of course you need to tap the 'reset' to set it back to
> the memorized time but that seems like a low hurdle. Still, no beep at your
> 30-second time but it will sound whatever sound you like at the end.

Switch to tea.

Given that I once drank half a cup of hot water thinking "Damn, this is
REALLY weak..." I probably have no right to comment here, but I can't
imagine that this level of precision could possibly be requiresd.

Simultaneously: (a) Start the process; (b) set the timer for 4 minutes
and 30 seconds; (3) sing Happy Birthday three times to achieve the
30-second mark. If it's good enough to kill the COVID virus it ought to
be good enough to time coffee.

--
Cheers, Bev
Nobody needs to speak on behalf of idiots, they manage
to speak entirely too much for themselves already.

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On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:42:02 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 06/04/2021 02:36 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>> On 6/4/2021 4:08 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2021 12:44 PM, knuttle wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> I can't imagine the use of the two periods. I've been using a French press
>>>>>> exclusively for a couple of decades now and have never seen anything like
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know anything about using a French press, but the idea of a two
>>>>> period timer sounds great to me. There's many a recipe that says "cook a
>>>>> for b minutes than add x and cook it for for y minutes."
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for understanding the need for a multi period timer for cooking.
>>>> https://bluebottlecoffee.com/brew-guides/french-press
>>>>
>>>> Almost every French Press coffee-making instruction contains the
>>>> 30-second mark & the magic 4 minutes (although we're all welcome to tweak
>>>> as needed).
>>>> https://www.drinktrade.com/how-tos/best-french-press-coffee
>>>>
>>>> It's so common to have this 30-second/4-minute interval timer that I was
>>>> hoping a one touch easy to use coffee-timer app existed for a French Press.
>>>> https://www.today.com/food/how-make-french-press-coffee-t174994
>>>
>>> OK. How about this? Set any countdown timer you prefer to 4:30 and start,
>>> pour water and wait until the timer says 4:00, stir, and wait until the
>>> timer runs out then plunge. I can't see where waiting patiently for 30
>>> seconds in the beginning would be too much of a show-stopper. You are
>>> hardly likely to wander too far during that short period where you will
>>> need to be summoned by a beep or whatever.
>>>
>> I should have added that the timer function in the standard Android clock
>> remembers times -- every time it is restarted it knows what it was last
>> time. I set mine for 90 minutes for morning exercise time and have never
>> had to change it. Of course you need to tap the 'reset' to set it back to
>> the memorized time but that seems like a low hurdle. Still, no beep at your
>> 30-second time but it will sound whatever sound you like at the end.
>
>Switch to tea.
>
>Given that I once drank half a cup of hot water thinking "Damn, this is
>REALLY weak..." I probably have no right to comment here, but I can't
>imagine that this level of precision could possibly be requiresd.
>
>Simultaneously: (a) Start the process; (b) set the timer for 4 minutes
>and 30 seconds; (3) sing Happy Birthday three times to achieve the
>30-second mark. If it's good enough to kill the COVID virus it ought to
>be good enough to time coffee.

For the male side of the equation it is even easier.

Just sit your wife down and explain that she MUST weigh the beans,
then toast the beans, grind then and place them in the coffee maker
and pour hot water at exactly 200 degrees (F) onto the beans and then
wait an exact period of time , then push down on the handle of the
coffee maker...

And she will say "Yes, Darling".
--
Cheers,

John B.


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