I can easily spoof my GPS location on non-rooted Android and nospam claims
repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS apps.

We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual facts).

On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
- Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
(Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open source).

paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> I can easily spoof my GPS location on non-rooted Android and nospam claims
> repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS apps.
>
> We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
> He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
> anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual facts).
>
> On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
> -
> Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
> (Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open source).
>

Why do you need to spoof your gps location?

On 6/8/2021 7:55 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> I can easily spoof my GPS location on non-rooted Android and nospam claims
>> repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS apps.
>>
>> We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
>> He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
>> anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual facts).
>>
>> On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
>> -
>> Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
>> (Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open source).
>>
>
> Why do you need to spoof your gps location?

There is no way to spoof your GPS location on a non-jailbroken iPhone
without the use of a separate computer connected to the phone.

As to why, there are applications that won't work in certain geographic
locations, even if you use a VPN server in a location where the app
would normally work. For example, if you subscribe to Hulu, and are
traveling in a country where the content you want is not normally
available, you can only watch it if you a) spoof the GPS location and b)
if your IP address is in a country where the content is available. A VPN
like Surfshark integrates GPS spoofing into their Android app, but that
feature obviously won't work on iOS.

See <https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524> for how to
spoof GPS.

GPS Spoofing is on my list of "Android Features that iOS Users Wish they
Had." I also have a similar list "iOS Features that Android Users Wish
they Had." I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
Since I use both ecosystems (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch) and Android, I
have an understanding of the pros and cons of each system.

In article <s9o3st$h36$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.

it's full of disinformation and well refuted myths.

you make up stuff to fit your narrative, which is easily shown to be
false. you keep it in a google doc so that it can't be peer reviewed
and disputed. you simply ignore it and even bash those who tell you
what's wrong.

for example, you claim that in-screen fingerprint sensors are better
than apple's face id.

that is easily shown to be false, since not only are they such sensors
slow and inaccurate, often requiring a pin code, but they can easily be
spoofed with reflective foil or adhesive tape. samsung's fingerprint
sensor could even be spoofed by simply applying a screen protector,
although they finally fixed that, something which you ignore.

> Since I use both ecosystems (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch) and Android, I
> have an understanding of the pros and cons of each system.

no you definitely don't.

there is *so* much wrong with your list it's laughable.

nospam wrote on 08.06.2021 18:18
>> I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
>> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
>
> it's full of disinformation and well refuted myths.

It's funny when nospam says that Steve's notes are filled with
disinformation when it was nospam himself, responding to Steve, on the
Android newsgroup, who prompted this thread by repeatedly asserting that on
iOS there are free apps in the Apple App Store which can spoof the GPS
location like the free apps in the Google Play Store do for Android.

I have plenty of iOS devices with GPS to check nospam's claims.

Where are these free apps in the iOS App Store that spoof our GPS location?
--
If they don't exist, why did nospam claim (repeatedly) that they do?

In message <s9o3st$h36$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> There is no way to spoof your GPS location on a non-jailbroken iPhone
> without the use of a separate computer connected to the phone.

You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
was the going rage.

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badgolferman wrote on 08.06.2021 16:55
> Why do you need to spoof your gps location?

Why does nospam constantly fabricate iOS functionality which doesn't exist?
Is the reason because nospam _hates_ the Android functionality is built in?

I don't know - but nospam's insistence on fabricating this functionality
(which is a basic part of the Android settings) also exists on iOS.

OK. Where?

An adult conversation is possible with you so my heartfelt, sincere, well
reasoned, and detailed response to your question above will be completely
different than it would be with, oh, say, Jolly Roger or nospam.

It's rather unfortunate people like Lewis, Joerg Lorenz, Wade Garrett,
YourName, Chris, Rod Speed et. al exist, simply because they drop the level
of conversation of this newsgroup instantly to that of a small child.

Bringing the details up a level, my reasoned thoughtful and factually
correct response below treats you as an adult who asks that question because
you wish to know why people would want to easily spoof their GPS location on
their phone.

This isn't what the question is, given nospam claimed repeatedly that iOS
has the same functionality that many of us use & love on Android...

But since you're a normal person I will further answer your question, even
as it doesn't help to answer the overall question of which app exists that
nospam insists exists on the Apple App Store to spoof your GPS location.

There are _multiple_ reasons for wanting to spoof your GPS location.
Some of those reasons have already been stated in this thread.

Others are stated in the descriptions for the various GPS spoofing reviews
(which cover both iOS and Android in the URLs below, to be fair to all):
https://itoolab.com/ad/anygo/
https://www.easeus.com/virtual-location/best-gps-spoofing-apps.html
https://www.tenorshare.com/iphone-tips/poplular-fake-location-app.html
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/gps-spoofing-iphone-23-04-2021/
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/vpn-fake-gps-location/
https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524
https://www.techjunkie.com/fake-spoof-gps-location-android/
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Heres-how-to-easily-fake-your-GPS-location-on-Android_id62775
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/08/spoof-location-android-basics/
https://hive.blog/technology/@natebowie/how-2-fake-spoof-your-gps-location-on-android
etc.

Notice there are multiple reasons to spoof GPS independent of the OS
(i.e., those reasons exist for Android, iOS, Windows and MacOS).

But other reasons exist which may or may not be OS dependent.

For some people they don't want apps which may be tracking them to know
where they are so those apps end up getting false location information.

As another example, some apps which themselves have nothing per se to do
with GPS _require_ the GPS to be on (at least on later versions of Android).

The app doesn't need the GPS - but Google forces the GPS to be turned on
(which we all know why). Whether or not Google does this for iOS apps may or
may not be the case so this "may" be an OS-dependent need (time will tell).

Since I happen to have at least average intelligence and creativity, I can
certainly easily envision plenty of other reasons someone "might" want to
spoof their GPS (e.g., a tracking app that saves your track on the Internet
or on the phone can be handed a random GPS movement for that purpose).

Given how _easy_ this is to do on Android, uses will pop into your mind.
1. You set the Mock Location App in Android settings to your spoofer.
2. You run the Mock Location App (and you set its settings)

That's it.
It's that easy.

The settings on the good Mock Location Apps are as easy choosing a location.
Or you can just drop a pindot on a map which all the good ones have for you.

Then you set if you want the GPS to move along a track of your choosing.
You can pre-define a track. Or let the track move randomly. Your choice.
If the track moves randomly you can set the update interval and the distance
and even the general direction, etc. depending on your spoofing needs.

Getting back to the question, on the Android newsgroup we tested all the
mock location apps (the Android settings are _designed_ to allow this).

Some of those Android free ad free google-free mock location apps are
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mocker.mockloc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackkara.mockation
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hopefactory2021.fakegpslocation
etc. (I tested every single app that was free & ad free & GSF free)
Note those should all be free, Google free, ad free, & most are GSF free.

When we discussed these apps both Steve and I noticed that all the reviews
said there are no iOS apps on the App Store which do this simple task, to
which nospam repeatedly claimed we were wrong. He said they are there.

OK. Where?
--
Why does nospam constantly fabricate iOS functionality which doesn't exist?

On 6/8/2021 6:43 PM, Lewis wrote:

> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> was the going rage.

How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
--
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kwhart1@frontier.com

In article <s9on43$1vuj$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

>
> > You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> > was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?

that question does not make any sense whatsoever.

On 6/8/2021 2:23 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 6:43 PM, Lewis wrote:
>
>> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
>> was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?

Lewis is wrong of course™.

The link I provided earlier,
<https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524> explains three ways
to spoof the GPS location on an iPhone. All of them require using a
separate computer. There is no iOS app that can do GPS spoofing, it is
not a permitted application for multiple reasons.

If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps available.

Android does allow GPS spoofing without rooting the device.

On 6/8/2021 5:44 PM, nospam wrote:
>> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
>
> that question does not make any sense whatsoever.

Have you ever done it?

You install a fake gps app.
You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.

Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
What more do you need to understand?

--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

In article <s9oqt0$1ifb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> >> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
> >
> > that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>
> Have you ever done it?

done what? your question makes no sense.

> You install a fake gps app.
> You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
>
> Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
> What more do you need to understand?

as someone who has written several apps that use location services,
there's very little additional for me to understand (and what's new in
ios 15 is not relevant).

you, on the other hand, have *no* clue about how location services
works on ios and is merely stringing together a bunch of buzzwords in
the form of a sentence and hoping nobody notices.

On 6/8/2021 3:27 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 5:44 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
>>
>> that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>
> Have you ever done it?
> You install a fake gps app.
> You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
>
> Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
> What more do you need to understand?
>

BTW, this thread is typical behavior of Arlen/Paul, etc.. Take an
Android feature that isn't available on iOS and make a big deal about
it, goading nospam and Lewis to make themselves look foolish for
claiming that the feature is available on iOS when it really isn't.

But in this case, there really are legitimate reasons for GPS spoofing.
There are also non-legitimate reasons, i.e. tricking Pokemon Go. If you
look at
<https://cybernews.com/how-to-use-vpn/change-your-location-on-pokemon-go/>
they go into detail about GPS spoofing for iOS under "Spoofing Pokemon
GO location on iOS – iPhone:"

3. Jailbreak your device to change your location
4. Visit Cydia, an app store for jailbroken devices
5. Download tsProtector to hide your iPhone’s jailbroken status
6. Download a Location Spoofer app
7. Ensure that tsProtector and your Location Spoofer app are running
8. Choose a location in the Spoofer app
9. Turn on your phone VPN and ensure the location matches the one you
choose in the Spoofer app

They make it sound like Jailbreaking is a trivial task, omitting the
fact that it could void any Apple warranty you may have and that many of
the Jailbreaks require tethering and you have to do the Jailbreak every
time you boot your iPhone.

sms wrote on 09.06.2021 00:59
> Take an Android feature that isn't available on iOS and make a big deal about
> it, goading nospam and Lewis to make themselves look foolish for
> claiming that the feature is available on iOS when it really isn't.

You know that's not true because this came up in a different thread that I
was helping someone on where you and I both looked up how iOS could do what
we do on Android and nospam is the one who claimed it works on iOS.

I didn't claim it works on iOS, and neither did you.
It was nospam who repeated claimed the apps existed on the Apple App Store.

So please accept & acknowledge that what you said above is a bold faced lie.
It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.

If they do exist, I'd _love_ to have them for my many iOS devices with GPS.
Where are they?

> But in this case, there really are legitimate reasons for GPS spoofing.

Nobody ever said there wasn't.
The people who asked why are just clueless and that's OK.

Multiple people explained the legitimate reasons.

We all know it just works on Android.
You and I know it was nospam who claimed the apps are on the App Store.

All this thread is asking is for nospam to come up with the apps on the
Apple App Store that you know nospam _repeatedly_ claimed existed.

Where are the apps?
If they exist, I'll be glad to try them on my new iPhone 12.

Where are they?
--
Could it be that nospam again fabricated imaginary iOS functionality?
Why would he do that?

On 2021-06-08, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 3:27 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
>> On 6/8/2021 5:44 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
>>>
>>> that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>>
>> Have you ever done it?
>> You install a fake gps app.
>> You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
>>
>> Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
>> What more do you need to understand?
>>
>
> BTW, this thread is typical behavior of Arlen/Paul, etc.. Take an
> Android feature that isn't available on iOS and

....and posting about it in Apple newsgroups as a troll.

That's what trolls do.

And Alreene is a pathetic troll who spends all of his free time
trolling.

It defines him.

It's what he LIVES FOR.

And it's fucking pathetic.

> If you look at
><https://cybernews.com/how-to-use-vpn/change-your-location-on-pokemon-go/>
> they go into detail about GPS spoofing for iOS under "Spoofing Pokemon
> GO location on iOS – iPhone:"

Which means Arleene is lying yet again. It's possible to do with
iPhones.

As usual, he's pathetically proven wrong yet again.

He just wants to troll. Just like you.

> They make it sound like Jailbreaking is a trivial task, omitting the
> fact that it could void any Apple warrantyi

Jailbreaking iOS devices is easy to do and you're lame "ERRMEGHERD, IT
VOIDS THE WARRANTY" excuse is also bullshit since all one has to do is
restor the device to factory defaults before turning it in for warranty
service. I've done that plenty of times myself, and Apple has *never*
refused service.

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On Jun 09, 2021, paul wrote
(in article<news:s9ovct$17cn$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.

nospam lied. Get over it.

The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.

Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.

Ron, the humblest guy in town.

"paul" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:s9nv47$14o$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> I can easily spoof my GPS location on non-rooted Android and nospam claims
> repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS
> apps.
>
> We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
> He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
> anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual
> facts).
>
> On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
> -
> Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
> (Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open
> source).

Fuck off Arlen.

Another thing:
Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
though.

Turning off location services for the app is still the best way.

In article <1fny16bnxu13p.dlg@news.solani.org>, RonTheGuy
<ron@null.invalid> wrote:

> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>
> nospam lied. Get over it.

i did not lie.

> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.

nope. the rest are those who understand how ios works much better than
the resident trolls.

> Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.

it can.

In article <Y%YvI.57583$gZ.20090@fx44.iad>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
> phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
> though.

location services uses one or more of gps, cellular, wifi, bluetooth,
compass, accelerometer, gyroscope and uwb to determine location,
depending on various factors.

On 6/8/2021 11:15 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> Another thing:
> Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
> phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
> though.
>
> Turning off location services for the app is still the best way.

It doesn't work that way.

In message <090620210545026971%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <1fny16bnxu13p.dlg@news.solani.org>, RonTheGuy
> <ron@null.invalid> wrote:

>> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>>
>> nospam lied. Get over it.

> i did not lie.

>> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.

> nope. the rest are those who understand how ios works much better than
> the resident trolls.

Spoofing GPS on Pokemon Go did not require jail breaking, although as JR
points out Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
much different from the android option to allow side-loading. I do not
recall what was required, but it was simple enough that I was able to do
it on my wife's phone so she could get regional pokemon.

I think the last time I did anything with jailbreaking my phone was my
4S, it's just not necessary,

>> Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.

> it can.

I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
something it is impossible. It's pathetic, but it does explain
republicans.

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In message <s9q8lu$e3h$2@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 11:15 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>> Another thing:
>> Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
>> phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
>> though.
>>
>> Turning off location services for the app is still the best way.

> It doesn't work that way.

Nut wee have established that you have no fucking clue what you are
talking about, so you making a unsubstantiated statement is about as
useful as farting in a tornado.

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In article <slrnsc1no9.2hlp.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
> something it is impossible.

yep.

they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.

if their first (and only) try fails, they immediately give up and then
blame big bad apple for blocking it, when the reality is that not only
is it doable, but often much easier.

> It's pathetic, but it does explain
> republicans.

they are in a class of their own.

just when you thought you heard it all, something like this comes along:
<https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1402388019420741633>
ORBITS: Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) asks whether the Forest Service
or the BLM can alter the orbit of the moon or the Earth in order to
fight climate change during a House Natural Resources hearing

On 6/8/2021 4:49 PM, sms wrote:
> If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps available.

How easy is it to jailbreak the newer iPhones?