In article <sa0eji$i86$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> > apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
> > *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
> > os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
> > write content blockers.
>
> The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.

that's what most people do. nobody said you had to write your own apps.

the point is that app developers are *not* prohibited in any way, shape
or form from writing content blockers on ios.

content blocking (more than just ads) is fully supported on ios.

those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
cases, both.

> There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.

why should there be? there is no requirement for developers to write
anything in particular.

if the demand is there, developers will fill it, regardless of platform.

if they don't, then the demand was not big enough to justify their time.

if you want certain functionality and nobody else has created an app,
then it's an opportunity to learn how to do it yourself or hire someone
who can. whether it's worth the investment is another story.

as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
is why there are numerous content blocking options.

> > the disinformation must be corrected so
> > that others are not misled by your babble.
>
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

i'm not your personal assistant.

there's this thing called a search engine. you managed to figure out
how to use it to find two netguard apps, so you can figure out how to
search for other ios content blockers.

and that's assuming you even have an ios device, which i highly, highly
doubt.

In article <sa0e3d$alh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> >> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> >> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
> >
> > yes they do.
>
> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?

nobody said it did.

this may come to you as a surprise, but different app developers create
different products that do different things.

if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
that does.

assuming you even have an ios device, that is.

In article <sa0glr$kf5$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
>
> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.

the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.

there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.

> For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
> things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
> obvious reasons.

this is flat out false.

not only does apple allow content blocking, but they have extensive
documentation on how to do it.

you are a clueless ignorant troll.

In article <slrnsc7ss3.2ds9.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> > There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
>
> There is in iOS 15. Sort of.

more than sort of.

ios 15 will block tracking pixels in email, plus private relay is a vpn
done right.

with existing vpns, you have to trust the vpn provider. they get to see
*all* traffic routed through them.

some vpn providers are pure sleaze. others inject ads.

anyone can claim no logging, but that's impossible to prove. some claim
no logging but have certain user limits (usually speed or data), which
requires logging to know if someone has reached their limit.

apple split it into two independent parts, making it impossible to link
anything back to a particular user. even apple doesn't know who
accesses what.

> A lot of malicious shit is already blocked in iOS starting back in iOS
> 12, at least, if not earlier.

all versions of ios do, depending on what you consider 'malicious shit'.

and then there's facebook, who is feeling the impact of ios blocking
the ability to track users, so much so that mark zuckerberg fabricated
a crazy scenario where businesses would have to charge users more for
their services or in some cases, shut down, because they can't monetize
users anymore.

On 6/12/2021 2:25 AM, nospam wrote:
>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>
> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.

The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.

The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html

The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
> there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.

Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
> that does.

Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.

That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
> is why there are numerous content blocking options.

The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."

If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.
--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

In article <sa18u2$1r9t$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
> >
> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>
> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.

he is not correct. nor are you.

neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
are quite obviously trolling.

> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html

> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html

so what?

just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.

other developers chose differently.

do you not understand that different apps have different features?

> > there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
>
> Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

why do you care?

based on your posts, you aren't actually interested in an answer.

do you even have an iphone?

In article <sa19ak$1uoi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

>
> > AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> > the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
>
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.

you're very confused about what it is you're supposedly asking for,
because not only is it close, it does *exactly* what you claim to want
to do.

<https://www.adblockios.com>
AdBlock for iOS works seamlessly with ad-displaying apps. Forget
about ads in games, utilities and on websites.

AdBlock for iOS allows you to create your own list of blocked domains
and synchronise your filters between all your devices using iCloud.

AdBlock for iOS does not send your Internet traffic through proxy or
any VPN server. All of your connections stay direct, fast and secure.

Setting up AdBlock for iOS is simple! Just download the app, import a
HOSTS file with domain names, and enable the "magic switch". It takes
less than 30 seconds to complete the setup.

In article <sa1a1t$5lk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> > as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
> > is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."

you're just playing games.

no matter what anyone suggests, you will find some mythical fault in an
attempt to disqualify it, even when the fault is bogus, as you've done
at least twice already.

you also don't understand what i said about sleazy vpns.

In message <110620212025250075%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sa0eji$i86$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
> cases, both.

Some of them are outright lying.

--
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him an
he's warm for the rest of his life."

In message <sa1a1t$5lk$1@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.

> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.

What the hell are you talking about? Do you have even the slightest idea
of how applications WORK?

No one said anything at all about blocking on "some Internet server"

--
You can find any pattern you want to any level of precision you want
If you ignore enough data.

In message <sa195e$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
>> that does.

> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

Since you have already been told one, Arleen, you are obviously doing
your usual shit of ignoring any answers so you can keep asking the same
idiotic question over and over again in the desperate hope someone will
think you know what the fuck you are talking about.

--
"Whose motorcycle is this?" "It's chopper, baby." "Whose chopper is
this?" "It's Zed's." "Who's Zed?" "Zed' dead, baby. Zed's dead."

In message <sa18u2$1r9t$1@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/12/2021 2:25 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>>
>> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.

> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.

> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.

If you are asking about the ability of two specific products that is a
whole world of difference between claiming that iOS can't do what you
want. One is comparing two specific apps, the other is a bullshit lie
based on ignorance and cluelessness.

> Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

You keep asking the same question. YOU are the one who is desperate for
this answer, perhaps YOU are the one who needs to find out if there is
something that will satisfy your needs.

See, I don't care. I run very few third party apps and none from
companies or people I distrust. So no Farcebook apps on my devices, no
apps from developers I've never heard of.Most of the third party apps I
run are from people I know directly, or know with at most two degrees of
separation. So while I do not know Underscore, I know people who know
underscore. I don't know Brian Mueller, but I know several people who
know him. I don't know Zach Cage, but I know people who know people who
know him.

There are a few games where I do not know the developers, but they are
games that Apple has featured and that a lot of people I trust run, and
so I am confident they are safe.

If I had an app where I was concerned about it enough to want a content
blocker, I would delete the fucking app (or, more likely, never have
installed it in the first place).

Running shit apps is something Androolers do.

--
Y is for YORRICK whose head was knocked in
Z is for ZILLAH who drank too much gin

In message <120620210000404975%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sa18u2$1r9t$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

>> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>> >
>> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>>
>> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.

> he is not correct. nor are you.

> neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
> are quite obviously trolling.

>> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html

>> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html

> so what?

> just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.

It's only 99% of web use on iOS, can't imagine why they don't bother
with other browsers.

--
Sarah Conner: “What are you doing?"
Grace: “Future shit.”

In message <sa19ak$1uoi$1@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
>> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.

> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.

No body knows what you are "asking for" because all you have said is
"content blockers".

JR gave you a content clocker and, as nospam predicted, you dismissed it
as not meeting your unstated criteria.

Here's the answer: Run android. No one cares. Go the fuck away and be
happy in your illusion that you are making a smart choice. NO ONE CARES.
No one is going to come to your androol group and tell you about how
great iOS is because we don't fucking care what platform you use.

You are pathetic. You are sad. You are desperate. You are a fool.

--
How do you talk about me behind my back?
Walk ahead of me and I'll think of something.
-- Bold Venture, Deadly Merchandise

In message <iii31cFe8f6U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2021-06-11, Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
>> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.

ZOMG! THEY WANT MONEY! I AM NOT PAYING $2 FOR THAT!

TWO DOLLARS! WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF!

Why, on ANDROID that would be FREE! FREEEEEEEEE I TELLS YOU!

FREEDUMB! FREEDUMB!

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
Pinky: I think so, Brain! (Sprays his breath)
Brain: Er... then again, let's not let our enthusiasm
overwhelm us!

In article <slrnsc96lq.9m9.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> > just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> > mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> > that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
>
>
> It's only 99% of web use on iOS, can't imagine why they don't bother
> with other browsers.

yep. adguard chose to write a safari content blocker. that's a business
decision they made.

third party browsers could support safari content blockers if they
wanted to. that's another business decision. i don't know of any that
do, but i haven't looked at every browser available (there are many).

some third party browsers include their own content-blocking and don't
need anything extra. at least one has had it for nearly a decade.

tl;dr - doing a search to further a narrative is guaranteed to backfire.

On 6/11/2021 8:35 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
>
> If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
> just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.

Well obviously nospam can't provide this.

But actually there are several such apps. See
<https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
<https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
require Jailbreaking though there is a workaround on the latter if you
have a Mac.

In article <sa2i57$lb0$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> But actually there are several such apps. See
> <https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
> <https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
> require Jailbreaking though there is a workaround on the latter if you
> have a Mac.

those might require jailbreaking (and also look incredibly sketchy),
but that doesn't mean all content blockers do.

not only are you trolling but you're incredibly clueless.

In message <sa2i57$lb0$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:35 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
>> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>>
>> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
>> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
>>
>> If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
>> just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.

> Well obviously nospam can't provide this.

Anyone CAN, it is trivial. Chosing not to is not the same as can't.

> But actually there are several such apps. See
> <https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
> <https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
> require Jailbreaking

There are many that do not require jailbreaking, you worthless idiot
troll.

--
I WON'T NOT USE NO DOUBLE NEGATIVES Bart chalkboard Ep. BABF02

On 2021-06-12, Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
>> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
>
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.

LOL! It's *precisely* what you are asking for!

Go ahead and explain how it's not - if you can.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 2021-06-12, Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
>> that does.
>
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?

I already gave you one, and you wrongly claimed it isn't what you asked
for. Stop pretending you are interested in real solutions, because it's
very clear you are not. You're just trolling, and everyone here can see
it.

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JR

Lewis wrote on 12.06.2021 16:12
> There are many that do not require jailbreaking, you worthless idiot

Name just one.

The adults on this ng will note these incessant claims of imaginary iOS
functionality which apologists can never locate every time they're asked.

*Why do these apologists always fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.

*I suspect JR, Lewis & nospam _hate_ iOS can't do what Android easily does.*
1... On Android, you install as many free mock location apps as you like.
2... In the Android settings you set one as your default mock location app.

Same with ad blockers like AdGuard and FOSS firewalls like NetGuard.
On Android, "it just works" while on iOS "it just doesn't exist."

The apologists _hate_ that iOS is inherently dysfunctional in these tasks.
--
Since I speak facts, here are links to three free apps that do as claimed.
AdGuard - https://github.com/AdguardTeam (the iOS version is braindead)
NetGuard - https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard (no comparable iOS apps exist)
Spoof GPS - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps