On 2021-07-30, Lófő <gonefishing@_INVALID_.buggeroff.gov> wrote:

> I can tell you that the An-2 and the DC-3 are two
> airplanes with which you can do whatever you
> like and on which you have to work bloody hard
> to cause an accident. An OS should be similar :-)

Yes, but then along came Microsoft. The sad part is
that it appears Seattle is close enough to Redmond to
be infected by the M$ philosophy, hence the 737 MAX fiasco.

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On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>
> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
> throttles open.

Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
throttle too fast. Others will backfire if you close the throttle
too fast. Don't move the throttle too fast.

> An airbus crashed at an airshow because the pilots didnt realise how
> long it takes to spool an engine up from idle ...because mostly you
> don't - landing is normally done in medium power high drag. Response is
> fairly fast. From idle it takes something like 15 seconds to get go
> around power.
>
> Pilots have to deal with stuff specific to flying te aircraft, not
> debugging its internal systems.

Yes, but bits of basic knowledge - like the fact that it takes an
idling turbine a long time to spool up - are good things to have
in your mental toolbox. Especially if you can put them together
with situational awareness and recognize situations you shouldn't
put yourself into.

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On 31/07/2021 02.00, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>>
>> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
>> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
>> throttles open.
>
> Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
> throttle too fast. Others will backfire if you close the throttle
> too fast. Don't move the throttle too fast.

The Austin 1300 had an oil dampener in the throttle control so that it
would move slowly. At least in one direction, I don't remember which.

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Carlos E.R.

On 30/07/2021 22:40, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/30/21 5:02 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 30/07/2021 20:12, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> BTW the AN-2 has an in-flight oil-filling spout IN THE COCKPIT
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So does the Beaver.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's right, it does, it's just that I kneel whenever an An-2 goes
>>> by. The manual says that in the event of an engine failure in IMC you
>>> just "pull the column into your gut and wait", scarebus don't make'em
>>> like that no more. There's also a multi-engine machine on
>>> which I think significant engine maintenance was possible in-flight.
>>>
>>
>> Isn't there a story of a guy who crawled out in a bombers wing in WW2
>> to save the aircraft?
>>
>> "Having bombed the target, Jackson's Lancaster (serial ME669) was
>> attacked by a German night fighter and a fuel tank in the starboard
>> wing caught fire. Jackson, already wounded from shell splinters,
>> strapped on a parachute and equipped himself with a fire extinguisher
>>  before climbing out of the aircraft and onto the wing, whilst the
>> aeroplane was flying at 140 miles per hour (230 km/h), in order to put
>> out the fire. He gripped the air intake on the leading edge of the
>> wing with one hand, and fought the fire with the other. The
>> flames seared his hands, face, and clothes. The fighter returned and
>> hit the bomber with a burst of gunfire that sent two bullets into his
>>  legs. The burst also swept him off the wing.
>>
>> He fell 20,000 feet (6,100 m), but his smouldering and holed parachute
>> worked well enough to save his life. He suffered further injuries upon
>> landing, including a broken ankle, but managed to crawl
>> to a nearby German village the next morning, where he was paraded
>> through the street.
>>
>> He spent 10 months recovering in hospital before being transferred to
>>  the Stalag IX-C prisoner-of-war camp."
>>
>> and...
>>
>> "On the return flight, while over the Zuider Zee on the Dutch coast,
>>  Ward's Wellington was attacked by a German Bf 110 night fighter. The
>> attack opened a fuel tank in the starboard wing, and caused a fire
>> around the rear of the starboard engine. After initial attempts to
>> put out the flames using fire extinguishers directed through a hole
>> made in the fuselage of the Wellington failed, Widdowson ordered the
>> crew to bail out. However, Ward proposed that he climb out and try and
>> smother the fire using an engine cover. He crawled out through the
>> astrodome on the top of the fuselage, secured by a rope. Making
>> his way down the side and along the wing of the aircraft, he kicked or
>> tore holes in the fuselage's covering fabric with a fire axe to
>> give himself hand-and foot-holes.[2][6][7][8]
>>
>>
>> He soon reached the engine and attempted to smother the flames with a
>>  canvas cover. With the fire out, he stuffed the cover into the hole
>> from which fuel from a petrol line, damaged in the night fighter
>> attack, had leaked and exacerbated the fire. Ward, now exhausted,
>> gingerly made his way back to the astrodome with the navigator,
>> Sergeant Joe Lawson of the RNZAF, keeping tension on the rope tethered
>> to Ward and assisting him back into the aircraft. Although the cover
>> shortly blew away by the slipstream, the remnants of the fire had
>> burnt itself out and the plane was now safe. Instead of the
>> crew having to bail out, the aircraft made an emergency landing,
>> without flaps or brakes, at Newmarket. The Wellington ran into a hedge
>> and fence at the end of the runway and was written off"
>>
>> That's a bit like patching the kernel on a live running multiuser
>> system....
>
> hard to believe some of those stories, I mean it's
> hard enough to hang onto a c180 in the slipstream,
> but then most are supported by plenty of witnesses
>
>
>
I am sure there are more untold stories of wartime pilots who tried mid
air fixes that failed.

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On 31/07/2021 01:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 31/07/2021 02.00, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>>>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>>>
>>> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
>>> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
>>> throttles open.
>>
>> Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
>> throttle too fast. Others will backfire if you close the throttle
>> too fast. Don't move the throttle too fast.
>
> The Austin 1300 had an oil dampener in the throttle control so that it
> would move slowly. At least in one direction, I don't remember which.
>
Effectively both, but it didn't do anything on a slam throttle shut event.

All SU carbs and many Strombergs had those, the rest had 'acceleration
pumps' that dumped fuel into the intake when you open up the air intake.

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.

First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
--
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 22:02:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> [2][6][7][8]

You're the human Wikipedia interface. ;-)
--
Andreas

On 31/07/2021 09:56, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 22:02:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> [2][6][7][8]
>
> You're the human Wikipedia interface. ;-)
>
In this case I hold up my hand in shame :(

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making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

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Le 30-07-2021, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> a écrit :
> That is a Troll

Certainly not. The Trolls are artists. It doesn't suffice to flood a
newsgroup are to post stupid things to become a Troll. It needs a real
brain to make others respond without end on a few messages. It haven't
see any Troll on usenet since a long time.

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On 31/07/2021 10.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
>> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.
>
> First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
> negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
> into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
> Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
>

A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 31/07/2021 09.46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/07/2021 01:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 31/07/2021 02.00, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>>>>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>>>>
>>>> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
>>>> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
>>>> throttles open.
>>>
>>> Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
>>> throttle too fast.  Others will backfire if you close the throttle
>>> too fast.  Don't move the throttle too fast.
>>
>> The Austin 1300 had an oil dampener in the throttle control so that it
>> would move slowly. At least in one direction, I don't remember which.
>>
> Effectively both, but it didn't do anything on a slam throttle shut event.

My father said he never noticed the difference. Nor me, when I learned
to drive on that car. Not actually learning, the driving school had
their own cars.

> All SU carbs and many Strombergs had those, the rest had 'acceleration
> pumps' that dumped fuel into the intake when you open up the air intake.

Yes, the pump is the usual thing. Was.

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On 31/07/2021 13.16, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 30-07-2021, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> a écrit :
>> That is a Troll
>
> Certainly not. The Trolls are artists. It doesn't suffice to flood a
> newsgroup are to post stupid things to become a Troll. It needs a real
> brain to make others respond without end on a few messages. It haven't
> see any Troll on usenet since a long time.
>
Heh :-)

How do we call the rest?

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 7/31/21 4:16 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 30-07-2021, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> a écrit :
>> That is a Troll
>
> Certainly not. The Trolls are artists. It doesn't suffice to flood a
> newsgroup are to post stupid things to become a Troll. It needs a real
> brain to make others respond without end on a few messages. It haven't
> see any Troll on usenet since a long time.
>

A real brain but a twisted need for attention.

bliss - 'Nearly any fool can use a Linux computer. Many do.' After all
here I am...

On 7/30/21 8:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 31/07/2021 02.00, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>>>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>>>
>>> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
>>> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
>>> throttles open.
>>
>> Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
>> throttle too fast. Others will backfire if you close the throttle
>> too fast. Don't move the throttle too fast.
>
> The Austin 1300 had an oil dampener in the throttle control so that it
> would move slowly. At least in one direction, I don't remember which.

my 3000 mk-II had 3 SU carbs that I had to tune by sticking
one end of a hose in my ear and the other near each carb
to listen to the air pitch and adjust as req'd :-)) It had
those tapered fuel controll pins pulled out by the manifold
vacuum (don't remember exactly what I had to adjust though..).

Le 31-07-2021, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
> On 31/07/2021 13.16, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 30-07-2021, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> a écrit :
>>> That is a Troll
>>
>> Certainly not. The Trolls are artists. It doesn't suffice to flood a
>> newsgroup are to post stupid things to become a Troll. It needs a real
>> brain to make others respond without end on a few messages. It haven't
>> see any Troll on usenet since a long time.
>>
> Heh :-)
>
> How do we call the rest?

The rest don't always fit in the same box.

For example, there are some flooder in read-only mode who sent a lot of
messages without reading the answers.

Others are only morons who are unable to understand anything answered to
them. They always stay at the same level as if nobody never answered
them.

Fabian would fit in his own box. He despised anyone but himself. He
knows and does nothing but he believes that barking at others would help
Linux.

There is a boat, to, which could find its own box.

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On 7/31/21 8:27 AM, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/30/21 8:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 31/07/2021 02.00, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/07/2021 19:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But at least we learn enough about how an engine works that we know
>>>>> how - and why - to not do things that might make it screw up and stop.
>>>>
>>>> Or not. The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for
>>>> pausing for several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the
>>>> throttles open.
>>>
>>> Even engines on some light aircraft will stumble if you open the
>>> throttle too fast.  Others will backfire if you close the throttle
>>> too fast.  Don't move the throttle too fast.
>>
>> The Austin 1300 had an oil dampener in the throttle control so that it
>> would move slowly. At least in one direction, I don't remember which.
>
> my 3000 mk-II had 3 SU carbs that I had to tune by sticking
> one end of a hose in my ear and the other near each carb
> to listen to the air pitch and adjust as req'd :-))  It had
> those tapered fuel controll pins pulled out by the manifold
> vacuum (don't remember exactly what I had to adjust though..).

The valves were needle valves controlled by vacuum with diaphragms
and you were adjusting the air flow across those diaphragms.

I used older designs but I kept up on what was happening.
Mine were on motorcycles Amals by brand and I preferred a larger
carb to supply multiple intakes but just to Twin cylinder engines.
Adjusting the multiple carbs was a task too demanding for me.
My 1972 R/75 had Bings and seldom required adjustments.

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here I am...
--
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> On 31/07/2021 10.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
>>> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.
>>
>> First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
>> negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
>> into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
>> Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
>>
>
> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.

Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says

| In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
| restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.

So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D
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On 2021-08-01, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 31/07/2021 10.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
>>>> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.
>>>
>>> First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
>>> negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
>>> into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
>>> Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
>>
>> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.
>
> Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says
>
>| In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
>| restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.
>
> So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D

Yes, but that doesn't have as many syllables. :-)
For extra points, call it a "flow restrictor".

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On 7/31/21 9:55 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2021-08-01, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/07/2021 10.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
>>>>> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.
>>>>
>>>> First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
>>>> negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
>>>> into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
>>>> Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
>>>
>>> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.
>>
>> Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says
>>
>> | In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
>> | restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.
>>
>> So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D
>
> Yes, but that doesn't have as many syllables. :-)
> For extra points, call it a "flow restrictor".
>
>

An "obturator" is a term that might be valid.
Took me some time to remember that word.
It don't exactly flow...

blis - 'Nearly any fool can use a Linux computer. Many do.' After all
here I was...

On 01/08/2021 03.54, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> On 31/07/2021 10.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:55:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Bristol Mercury WWII aircraft engine was well known for pausing for
>>>> several seconds with no power at all if you rammed the throttles open.
>>>
>>> First versions of Supermarine Spitfires had a similar problem stalling on
>>> negative Gs, easy prey for ME 109s. The solution, adding a simple ring
>>> into the fuel line, an idea by Beatrice Shilling, helped winning the
>>> Battle Of Britain (and probably the war).
>>>
>>
>> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.
>
> Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says
>
> | In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
> | restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.
>
> So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D
>

Curious.

Ah, please, post the link.

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Carlos E.R.

On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:14:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> On 01/08/2021 03.54, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.
>>
>> Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says
>>
>> | In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
>> | restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.
>>
>> So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D
>>
>
> Curious.
>
> Ah, please, post the link.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire#Carburetion_versus_fuel_injection>
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John Dow <jmd@nelefa.org> writes:

> On 2021-07-27, F Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
>>
>> Therefore, unless you are a TRUE user of GNU/Linux then
>> please the get the fuck out.
>
> You, sir, are a twat.
>

Well, his name is Fucking Russell, so that fits.

Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> John Dow <jmd@nelefa.org> writes:
>
>> On 2021-07-27, F Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> Therefore, unless you are a TRUE user of GNU/Linux then
>>> please the get the fuck out.
>>
>> You, sir, are a twat.
>>
>
> Well, his name is Fucking Russell, so that fits.

Sorry, that was rather insensitive of me. I apologize for my vulgar and
sexist comment. I was annoyed at usenet trolls this morning and should
have taken a deep breath before posting in anger.

On 01/08/2021 13.52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:14:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> On 01/08/2021 03.54, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:29:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A ring? Sorry, I don't understand.
>>>
>>> Somewhere I had "ring" in my memory. Looking up Wikipedia now it says
>>>
>>> | In March 1941, a metal disc with a hole was fitted in the fuel line,
>>> | restricting fuel flow to the maximum the engine could consume.
>>>
>>> So "disk with a hole" might be considered a ring. :-D
>>>
>>
>> Curious.
>>
>> Ah, please, post the link.
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire#Carburetion_versus_fuel_injection>
>

Thanks :-)

Didn't know any of this.

I have a model of the Hurricane at 1:24 scale, I think it is. Very
detailed. From Airfix, I suppose. Fragile things, they don't survive a
zealeous hired house cleaner, even if I told them to not clean the
cupboard top :-(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfix

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On 01.08.2021 at 09:04, Bud Frede scribbled:

> Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> writes:
>
> > John Dow <jmd@nelefa.org> writes:
> >
> >> On 2021-07-27, F Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Therefore, unless you are a TRUE user of GNU/Linux then
> >>> please the get the fuck out.
> >>
> >> You, sir, are a twat.
> >
> > Well, his name is Fucking Russell, so that fits.
>
> Sorry, that was rather insensitive of me. I apologize for my vulgar
> and sexist comment. I was annoyed at usenet trolls this morning and
> should have taken a deep breath before posting in anger.

I'm not so sure that it would be his real name.

In a past longer gone — say over a decade ago — he used to post the
exact rants under the names "Alan Connor" and (occasionally)
"Evergreen", and he stated that "Alan Connor" was not his real name.
So there's no reason to assume that "F. Russell" would be his real name
either — although, admittedly, it's possible.

Dunno. I've binned him a while ago already. <shrug>

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